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Steven
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 Posted - 06/04/2013 : 05:28:31
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The green tea at 10 pm forced me to see the sun rise 3 days in a row.
What do you mean by that. Do you mean you couldn't sleep for 3 days in a row?
How much Quercetin, vitamin C and EGCG did you take? If you took vitacost green tea extract you probably took 250 mg EGCG. Is that right, did you take 250 mg EGCG? Did you take them all together?
Do you take vitamin c as well, that is important, but you didn't mentioned it in your post.
It might be that the combination has some kind of effect on the brain so it causes difficulty to sleep. However, I never heard about this side effect before. Yes limiting the caffeine intake might help but I am not sure if it's the caffeine that caused it. Maybe you should take melatonin to help with sleeping. |
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JimB
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Posted - 06/04/2013 : 06:21:07
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I have no problems falling asleep and take one set of capsules just before bed.
Not related to the capsules, I only get approx 7 hours of sleep usually waking early.
Progress has really stopped now and I have one of the three BCCs remaining although smaller in height then when I started. Also I still have an SCC that will not go away.
For a couple of days I tried 3 sets of pills per day but did not feel that they had an effect so I went back to two sets of pills.
I need to get back to using an aggressive topical mixture but not really motivated yet.
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Originally posted by sick of BCC
JimB and Steven, I have been following your post and have tried your approach, how ever the combination was causing me problems. I modified it slightly - vitacost quercetin and bromelain and decaffeinated green tea extract. I am only on day two but I would like your opinion. The green tea at 10 pm forced me to see the sun rise 3 days in a row. I went to sleep last night w/o a problem but I did eat before the quercetin. JimB's pictures were compelling and I would like to have some of that success. Thanks.
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Steven
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Posted - 06/04/2013 : 06:58:26
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| Jim, maybe you should try the quercetin + vitamin c + H2O2 used topically as instructed a few posts before this one. I think it could work. |
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JimB
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Posted - 06/04/2013 : 11:25:45
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When I started using the mixture I also had stomach issues. And developed a cold sore on my lip. I wrote that off to the combo working. Sort of like when you get sick if you workout too hard and the muscle cell wastes are floating around in your system and you get sick.
I started with one set of pills per day and then graduated to 2 sets later. Also I had to take some food to make the stomach nausea go away. I have no problems now though.
I have no knowledge of bromelain so I can't help you there.
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Originally posted by sick of BCC
JimB and Steven, sorry for the scatter brained post. I am taking quercetin, vit c, and the green tea extract in the same amount as you twice a day. I had an upset stomach and could not sleep using the vitacost products origionally mentioned in your post. When I modified the approach as described above those issues went away. I guess my real question should have been adding the bromelain and removing the caffeine change in a material way the ability of this combination to work. Just asking your opinion. The hope of finding something effective that will help facial lesions instead of jumping in with both feet on the old black salve would be quite valuable. Thanks
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Steven
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Posted - 06/05/2013 : 04:04:13
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In my opinion it's better to use exactly the same brand/ product and dosage as Jim used. But if you can't, then the other brands/ products can be good as well. After all it's (almost) the same ingredients. The bromelain added should not be a problem. But there are small differences between brands, I have noticed for example that twinlab quercetin + vitamin c is less yellow then vitacost quercetin + vitamin c.
Please keep me informed about the results.
The other poster, sick of BCC disappeared strangely. Sick of BCC are you seeing any good results from the quercetin + vitamin c + green tea extract usage? You can also message me privately on my website: http://treatcancerinfo.wix.com/cure if you don't want to put it here. |
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Steven
80 Posts |
Posted - 06/17/2013 : 12:56:44
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| Sick of BCC (he/she posted here several times), what happened, why did your posts disappear? |
Edited by - Steven on 06/23/2013 03:03:54 |
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Steven
80 Posts |
Posted - 06/28/2013 : 01:43:09
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Maybe you need to add Vitamin E (another antioxidant) to this mix. JimB used vitamin e along with this mix, maybe this is why it worked so well.
I now advise to dissolve the quercetin + vitamin c in 100% pure orange juice, which can make the quercetin + vitamin c work much better. You can check all the information on my website.
I just got another person who responded well to this therapy. This person added Vitamin E to the mix. |
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Steven
80 Posts |
Posted - 07/05/2014 : 04:46:14
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Originally posted by JimB
I thought I read it at his website, but I can not find the reference quickly. I thought he mentioned that the Q&C will work better with EGCG which is found in Green Tea Extract and other natural sources.
I had them around because of using them externally with viagra and they work externally but slower than the above method. I did not take the green tea extract internally before by itself so I do not know.
Maybe future posters can try it by itself. I have a couple of hundred around its easy to take them.
Here is Steven's website
http://www.qcancercure.com/
Here is another link discussing the 2 supplements together
http://www.naturalnews.com/035651_green_tea_quercetin_cancer_tumors.html
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Originally posted by anivoc
Hi Jim,
The green tea extract? In a quick review I didn't see Steven suggest that. Is this something you decided to add to the regime or something Steven suggested?
I have ordered the quercitin / Vit C and will jump on the guinea pig team as soon as it arrives.
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Steven
80 Posts |
Posted - 07/20/2014 : 03:20:22
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Hey Jim,
How are you now? |
Edited by - Steven on 05/24/2015 04:31:27 |
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tom1231
USA
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Posted - 05/31/2015 : 15:37:24
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Originally posted by Steven
This is my theory about Quercetin and how it kills cancer cells:
Quercetin is an antioxidant. It neutralizes free radicals. While doing so this quercetin changes to a radical molecule. For example it neutralizes 4 radical molecules and becomes a radical molecule with 4 radicals.
Then it sticks to DNA (covalent binding). Because there is no water present there, it stays a radical molecule.
When a cell divides, water nears this molecule so it reacts with water causing OH radicals killing the cell.
Normal cells always repair their entire DNA before cell division, so the radical flavonoid molecule is removed. So normal cells stay unharmed.
Cancer cells divide before they have repaired their entire DNA, so they die.
So it's actually a bomb.
A flavonoid molecule is like a bomb that explodes if it's not removed before a cell tries to divide. Cancer cells that divide before reperation die, because the bomb isn't removed, so it explodes when the cell tries to divide. Normal cells that divide after reperation remove the bomb so they live.
Cancer cells that do completely repair their DNA before cell division aren't cancer cells anymore (they are normal cells) because they have to wait a long time before cell division.
So flavonoids kill only cancer cells but no normal cells.
It's like this:
Normal cell -> completely repaired -> flavonoid bomb removed -> cell divides normal
Cancer cell -> not completely repaired -> flavonoid bomb detonates -> cell killed while it was dividing.
Cancer cell that completely repairs = normal cell.
Steven Chang
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Steven
80 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2015 : 04:37:42
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| Have you tried Quercetin + Vitamin C (+ green tea extract)? |
Edited by - Steven on 08/30/2015 14:24:02 |
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Steven
80 Posts |
Posted - 08/30/2015 : 15:18:07
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Anivoc,
If the Quercetin + Vitamin C doesn't work then try to dissolve it in 0.5 Liter of water. Shake several times and then take it gradually. This should be much more bioavailable and this kills cancer cells much better. Optionally add green tea extract to the mix (the 0.5 L bottle).
You should also add 400+ IU Vitamin E, as that works synergistically with Quercetin + Vitamin C.
Good luck! |
Edited by - Steven on 09/18/2015 17:57:46 |
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Steven
80 Posts |
Posted - 09/21/2015 : 15:56:25
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I think that vitamin E is the "magic bullet".
Add vitamin E to the mix and it will work. All the people who had vitamin E added to the mix had good results!
Why isn't anybody responding? |
Edited by - Steven on 06/11/2016 10:33:45 |
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anivoc
668 Posts |
Posted - 06/12/2016 : 05:17:52
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Steven
You mention "all the people" who tried it with vitamin E had good results..
Who are "all these people" and do you have a single set of before and after pictures of visual proof? Do you have medical documentation from any of these people that they really had cancer?
If you do please post..
I believe your heart is in the right place but cancer can a deadly thing and saying you have a "Cure" when you have a theory is irresponsible. I'm all for giving people hope and trying new approaches but they need to be presented as an experiment not like it is tried and proven system or method that is a 100% "CURE"
I would love it if your theory turns out to be accurate but here on the board those of us that have tried it, in the end failed. JimB who was the most enthusiastic, in the end gave up as it was not knocking out his tumors |
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Steven
80 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2016 : 02:14:37
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I have a testimonial of a person saying that after taking vitamin e + quercetin + vitamin c tumors were falling off and this was accompanied by bleeding.
This person saw pieces of dead tumor (his mother has cancer) in the toilet bowl.
This is exactly what would be expected, according to my theory. It should kill all cancer cells and wipe out all tumors.
And I am using this myself to kill bacteria in my mouth. With success, because I have 2 teeth that should be pulled out by the dentist, but due to the bacteria killing effects of quercetin + vitamin c + vitamin e + fluoride (free radicals), my teeth are still there and they don't hurt anymore even though one tooth has a major hole in it and the other one is loose due to severe gingivitis. The mix completely kills all bacteria, preventing inflammation of the teeth. Bacteria are like cancer cells. The mix also has the ability to penetrate skin like DMSO and it should also penetrate tumors with ease.
By the way, where is JimB and what does he say about the treatment protocol? I didn't see him write anything about the treatment protocol, after initially he had good results.
I am still looking for more testimonials (good or bad)! |
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anivoc
668 Posts |
Posted - 06/22/2016 : 10:16:35
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Steven
Undocumented "testimonies" carry no value. They are deceptive and give false hope to the people who take them as something more than what they really are (hearsay / gossip).
"POIDH" (Pictures or it didn't happen) At the minimum pictures that document the before and after results are required...to add credibility to the pictures, a biopsy prior to treatment is really necessary ( though sometimes the pictures are pretty clear it was a real skin cancer) as without a biopsy prior to the treatment protocol there is no scientifically / medical documented proof what type of skin cancer or lesion it was.
This forum is for non melanoma skin cancers...not internal cancers..
Jim B posted in this thread for about 2 months in 2013 and has not posted again in this thread in 3 years...his last two post indicated what he thought was progress had come to a stand still and that he still had the tumors..based upon your enthusiasm I tried both internally and externally and IMO wasted time and money on something that in no way shape or form helped me with eradicating my skin cancers.
A lot of people come here seeking help .based upon JimB and my personal experience in trying your protocol, I strongly discourage anyone else from putting any time, energy and money into it as it appears to not have any long term effect and you have provided zero documented proof otherwise. |
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Steven
80 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2016 : 09:10:02
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| Have you tried to combine Quercetin + Vitamin C + Vitamin E with H2O2 or toothpaste (source of free radicals)? |
Edited by - Steven on 09/20/2021 07:10:14 |
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