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Steven
80 Posts |
 Posted - 07/18/2008 : 14:35:24
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Hello,
Has anyone tried the treatment protocol found here:
http://www.qcancercure.com/
If so then what are the results?
Thanks!
Steven Chang
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Steven
80 Posts |
Posted - 11/09/2008 : 10:52:16
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anivoc
668 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2008 : 08:33:20
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Hi Steven,
I'd have to do a search of the forum to tell you who, but I remember somebody mentioning quercetin in their protocol of treatment. It was just part of a mix of multiple compounds. To my knowledge nobody here has touted them (flavinoids) as the "great find" or solution to eradicating non melanoma skin cancer. |
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dan
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Posted - 11/11/2008 : 20:42:00
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There is an interesting thread at http://www.topicalinfo.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=100 regarding a 2005 study that combines quercetin and ultrasound (20kHz = 20000Hz, audible if you are young enough, or a dog) to kill skin cancer cells in test tubes. The study can be found at http://www.nature.com/bjc/journal/v92/n3/abs/6602364a.html Quercetin inhibits both the manufacture and release of histamine, used by cancer cells to generate an inflammation status that helps them stay immortal. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quercetin I also got to wondering whether using ultrasound at 20000Hz is all that different than using a Hulda Clarke zapper? They operate pretty much at the same frequency.
In case you want to experiment with ultrasound on the cheap, a 20000 Hz signal can be generated with your PC or MAC soundcard using the free Virtual MR1 analog audio signal generator at http://www.nti-audio.com/Home/Products/DiscontinuedProducts/tabid/97/Default.aspx (flash .exe runs directly with no installation needed) The freeware audio editor Audacity http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ can also generate a 20000 Hz tone (Generate>>Tone>>Play). It would probably be best to use a headphone speaker pressed against the skin. This might work better at a somewhat lower frequency such as 16000 Hz because both sound cards and headphone speakers do not always function that well higher in frequency. Going one step further, one could add quercetin to an aloe vera gel or any skin lotion such as Trader Joes Refresh, rub it into the skin, and see what happens with a minute or two of ultrasound. One thing bad thing about quercetin is that it is bright yellow so staining could be a problem.
I happen to use both quercetin and vitamin c orally as part of a much larger health regimen that seems to be working pretty well. I have no idea how much to credit a quercetin + vitamin c combo in relation to the many other things I do. |
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Steven
80 Posts |
Posted - 11/12/2008 : 07:38:50
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This is my theory about Quercetin and how it kills cancer cells:
Quercetin is an antioxidant. It neutralizes free radicals. While doing so this quercetin changes to a radical molecule. For example it neutralizes 4 radical molecules and becomes a radical molecule with 4 radicals.
Then it sticks to DNA (covalent binding). Because there is no water present there, it stays a radical molecule.
When a cell divides, water nears this molecule so it reacts with water causing OH radicals killing the cell.
Normal cells always repair their entire DNA before cell division, so the radical flavonoid molecule is removed. So normal cells stay unharmed.
Cancer cells divide before they have repaired their entire DNA, so they die.
So it's actually a bomb.
A flavonoid molecule is like a bomb that explodes if it's not removed before a cell tries to divide. Cancer cells that divide before reperation die, because the bomb isn't removed, so it explodes when the cell tries to divide. Normal cells that divide after reperation remove the bomb so they live.
Cancer cells that do completely repair their DNA before cell division aren't cancer cells anymore (they are normal cells) because they have to wait a long time before cell division.
So flavonoids kill only cancer cells but no normal cells.
It's like this:
Normal cell -> completely repaired -> flavonoid bomb removed -> cell divides normal
Cancer cell -> not completely repaired -> flavonoid bomb detonates -> cell killed while it was dividing.
Cancer cell that completely repairs = normal cell.
Steven Chang
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Steven
80 Posts |
Posted - 02/06/2009 : 10:17:19
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This is what I would do:
1 Drink the Quercetin with Vitamin C as instructed on website. (http://www.qcancercure.com/)
2 Apply Quercetin together with Vitamin C powder on the mole/ tumor. Add a bit hydrogen peroxide. Hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) is the substance quercetin needs to kill cancer cells. Be sure not to use too much hydrogen peroxide or not too concentrated hydrogen peroxide (H2O2).
3 Add some water and rub it well. When done, wash out with water. |
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dapo
USA
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Posted - 02/07/2009 : 13:27:53
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Hi Steven,
I see that you are directing readers to you own website.
I can see trying the consumable cocktail of C & Quercetin,
however, what is the basis of your recommendation of your
recipe as a topical application? Do you have ANY results from
someone trying the topical application for treatment of basal cell
carcinoma? I'm in Los Angeles- where are you from?
Plz advise-thx Don |
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Steven
80 Posts |
Posted - 02/07/2009 : 15:55:16
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Quercetin, the main flavonoid from fruits and vegetables appears to be very safe to use (I once drank 3000 mg of this stuff a day for cancer prevention and never developed any side effects. But everybody is different ofcourse! It can kill cancer cells, while leaving healthy cells intact. See this research:
Induction of cancer-specific cytotoxicity towards human prostate and skin cells using quercetin and ultrasound
S Paliwal1, J Sundaram1 and S Mitragotri1
1Department of Chemical Engineering, University of California, Santa Barbara, CA 93106-5080, USA
Bioflavonoids, such as quercetin, have recently emerged as a new class of chemotherapeutic drugs for the treatment of various cancer types, but are marred by their low potency and poor selectivity. We report that a short application of low-frequency ultrasound selectively sensitises prostate and skin cancer cells against quercetin. Pretreatment of cells with ultrasound (20 kHz, 2 W cm-2, 60 s) selectively induced cytotoxicity in skin and prostate cancer cells, while having minimal effect on corresponding normal cell lines. About 90% of the viable skin cancer cell population was lost within 48 h after ultrasound-quercetin (50 M) treatment. Ultrasound reduced the LC50 of quercetin for skin cancer cells by almost 80-fold, while showing no effect on LC50 for nonmalignant skin cells."
I never hear back from anyone so I don't know if it actually worked. But it's worth trying.
I'm from Netherlands. |
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dapo
USA
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Posted - 02/07/2009 : 16:43:29
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I'm not a scientist, nor health care practitioner however, I believe your citation from UCSB is "in vitro", NOT with any human subjects, is that right? Have YOU tried the transdermal application of your recipe on yourself or others that you know?
Your recipe in your "02/06/2009 : 10:17:19" post is VERY vague on proportions of
ingredients. Can you be more specific on the formulation and again note any actual
experience you've had with the topical usage-thanks. don |
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Steven
80 Posts |
Posted - 02/07/2009 : 17:45:35
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No I do not have any actual experiences with this topical usage. (and I do not know if it will actually work)
I would use 3000 or more Quercetin and 1500-3000 mg ascorbic acid (provided that it isn't too acid).
You can wash it away with water directly or some time after applying.
I do not know how much H2O2 and I would be very careful with that ingredient (use as less as possible). |
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dapo
USA
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Posted - 02/07/2009 : 18:18:22
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Steven, you expect people here to be your guine pigs based on your THEORY ?????
How can your "RECOMMEND" anything??? You have not spoken of your credentials, if any
exist, you have NO personal experience or trial & error, nor have you any experience
with your "recommendations" on any one else that you know or care for-- absolutely absurd!!!
You have no "skin in the game", literally nor figuratively, how dare you.
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Steven
80 Posts |
Posted - 02/08/2009 : 02:59:12
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| Well I drink this thing myself for cancer prevention with no problems at all. My experience is that it's really safe (Quercetin is sold by many brands and used for numerous health problems such as allergy). One person even took 10.000 mg a day without problems. But everybody is different ofcourse. |
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dapo
USA
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Posted - 02/09/2009 : 14:56:16
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| Ok Steven, if it so safe, why don't you mix-up a brew, post the recipe, and apply it to any area of your own face for a one week "test drive" and post your feedback, or, find a friend or family member who has bcc and have them try your recommended topical brew and have them post their experiences. |
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Steven
80 Posts |
Posted - 06/11/2009 : 15:03:48
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| Thanks for your suggestion. |
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foodforthought
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/11/2009 : 19:14:02
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| That was a very gently response, Steven, to a rather aggressive series of posts. Do please continue to post information - I found it very interesting |
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Steven
80 Posts |
Posted - 04/23/2010 : 07:47:29
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| Well according to my theory this mix is actually a cure for cancer, but maybe I'm a bit too optimistic. |
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thanks01
USA
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Posted - 04/24/2010 : 16:22:52
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| Dan, I wonder if there is any point in having this topic keep popping up with no new entries. Someone keeps changing it in some way so that it seems current among the Active Topics, but actually there is nothing new here. Thx |
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Steven
80 Posts |
Posted - 10/02/2010 : 04:28:05
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marsha
USA
122 Posts |
Posted - 10/02/2010 : 10:12:39
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| I cant believe in all this time you haven't found a friend or family member to try this out. Have you put this on your face yet, with pictures? |
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Steven
80 Posts |
Posted - 01/02/2011 : 14:15:15
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| I used it to wash my head. I also take it daily orally. |
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Steven
80 Posts |
Posted - 07/12/2011 : 07:38:57
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| Has anyone tried Quercetin + Ascorbic acid (vitamin C) dissolved in water (shaken well) against cancer? What were the results? |
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Steven
80 Posts |
Posted - 07/25/2011 : 05:15:28
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Originally posted by Steven
Has anyone tried Quercetin + Ascorbic acid (vitamin C) dissolved in water (shaken well) against cancer? What were the results?
Please, I need to know the results of using quercetin + ascorbic acid dissolved in water. |
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BasalBoy
USA
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Posted - 08/27/2011 : 16:14:53
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| You said you would use 3000 or more Quercetin and 1500-3000 mg ascorbic acid (provided that it isn't too acid).Look me up (BASALBOY) and you'll see I've used most of what's out there with mixed results and am not afraid to put something as natural as these on my face. If it gets too caustic and aggressive, you can usually wash it off, dial it down and try again. |
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Steven
80 Posts |
Posted - 09/22/2011 : 12:39:16
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| Ok keep me informed. |
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JimB
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Steven
80 Posts |
Posted - 04/08/2013 : 13:25:33
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| Ok JimB did you try Quercetin + Vitamin C? |
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JimB
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Posted - 04/08/2013 : 13:39:22
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Actually, I did but not a fair trial.
I received the Vitamin C and Quercetin 700/250mg pills from vitacost.com and applied with Coconut oil for about a week.
There was no visible effects but the color was a true yellow mustard color mixture and I did not like wearing it on my body and it was messy to mix in sink area, so I stopped using it. Sorry.
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Ok JimB did you try Quercetin + Vitamin C?
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Steven
80 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2013 : 15:43:29
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| You can also take the Quercetin + Vitamin C orally. Please inform me if you do and see any difference. |
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JimB
49 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2013 : 15:50:45
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Ok, I'll start tomorrow. I also have the green tea extract 500mg. I'll add that too. I did use it externally with the Q&C and coconut oil earlier.
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You can also take the Quercetin + Vitamin C orally. Please inform me if you do and see any difference.
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Steven
80 Posts |
Posted - 04/14/2013 : 02:52:45
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| Did you notice any effect from the Quercetin + Vitamin C? Can you tell me which brand of Quercetin + Vitamin C you are using? |
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JimB
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Posted - 04/14/2013 : 04:18:46
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Originally posted by JimB
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Originally posted by JimB
Absolutely have seen results, WoW.
I have been intending to document my results with Quercetin + Vitamin C sooner but got tied up with Sprint, a new phone and food shopping all day yesterday. Actually missed my dosage yesterday.
Started taking Vitacost.com brand Q&C 700/250mg plus Vitacost.com Green Tea Extract 500mg on the morning of 4/11. Missed my daily regimen of coconut oil mixtures.
So I woke up on the morning of 4/12 and noticed that overall my face looked less red and most all the sun damaged skin had shrunk in height somewhat. Did not really believe my eyes but thought it may be because of no oil that day.
I did have a side effect which I verified with a google search that Quercetin may give one a cold sore if they are alergic to citrus. Now I have taken lots of vitamin C in my life with no problems and am not prone to cold sores but I had a large area on my lower lip that had puffed up like a cold sore.
Started putting ice and Abreve on it throughout the day. It never got crust so it was not a real cold sore but an alergic reaction. I continued with another dose on the morning of 4/12.
By the end of the day on 4/12 I noticed subtle improvements in my facial color again. Of course 4/13 was screwed up as I mentioned earlier but since I missed a treatment the cold sore went away.
I don't want to count my chickens before they hatch but I am looking forward to taking today's dosage and documenting this with pictures.
In about a week, I will add recent pictures showing the red patches of sun damaged skin and current status.
I do want to personally thank you for suggesting taking the capsules orally instead of topically as I am seeing fast results. So fast that I did not want to report them until I believed them myself.
I am very impressed with this treatment. Thanks, again.
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Originally posted by Steven
Did you notice any effect from the Quercetin + Vitamin C? Can you tell me which brand of Quercetin + Vitamin C you are using?
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Steven
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Posted - 04/14/2013 : 04:30:29
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WOW this is incredible! It's great to hear you see difference. I always knew it would work! Maybe you should contact Dan, I believe he's the forum owner. If he likes the results he can put the results on his website.
It's really astonishing to hear this.
Oh yes I should warn you if it really works maybe there can be side effects as well so maybe you should visit a doctor to monitor you. For example I know that tumor lysis syndrome could be a consequence of rapid tumor breakdown and if it's potent stuff it might also induce that complication potently. You only live once so it's better to be on the safe side.
I have been busy so long to try to find out if this thing really works and hearing your story really makes it worthwhile. |
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JimB
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Posted - 04/14/2013 : 13:42:44
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I have posted a jpg of TLS symptoms.
I experienced none of these mentioned below. Only had a bloated lower lip that is still some what bloated.
Planning my next move. I did experience improvement in skin color and texture in 2 treatments but obviously not 100% in that short a time.
Thinking of using Q&C every other day or 2 times a week then rest to limit risk.
Will let you know what I decide but do not want to quit using it with no symptoms yet. I may be "dead" wrong but do not feel my size problem and potency of Q&C is strong enough to cause TLS.
So I will think this through.
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Originally posted by Steven
WOW this is incredible! It's great to hear you see difference. I always knew it would work! Maybe you should contact Dan, I believe he's the forum owner. If he likes the results he can put the results on his website.
It's really astonishing to hear this.
Oh yes I should warn you if it really works maybe there can be side effects as well so maybe you should visit a doctor to monitor you. For example I know that tumor lysis syndrome could be a consequence of rapid tumor breakdown and if it's potent stuff it might also induce that complication potently. You only live once so it's better to be on the safe side.
I have been busy so long to try to find out if this thing really works and hearing your story really makes it worthwhile.
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anivoc
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Posted - 04/14/2013 : 17:23:39
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Wikipedia on TLS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tumor_lysis_syndrome
It is more prone or apt to occur with Lymphomas and Leukemia no mention of skin cancer..
Please keep us posted Jim...Do you have any larger Basal Cell tumors? |
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Steven
80 Posts |
Posted - 04/16/2013 : 04:06:26
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| Do you still see any improvements? I'm very curious because I think this could be a cancer cure and if it really works I would be very happy. |
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JimB
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Posted - 04/16/2013 : 05:19:05
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The pills were only taken for 2 days, so only I would notice improvement. Anyone else would see that I still have sun damaged skin.
But what I noticed was everything got smaller and not itching. Usually when treated the damaged skin does not itch.
I did layoff for 2 days and some minor itching returned in one area with the patch increasing in size, but overall not much happened.
I did start again yesterday. Drank lots of water and monitored my body to make sure nothing unusual occurs. The cold sore did not return but evidence of the old one remains. I will take the pills again this morning. Tomorrow I will decide whether to skip a day or not. As long as I see improvement without problems,I will continue, maybe even take pills in morning and again at night if improvement slows down with no complications.
This morning I look better than yesterday. An interesting thing happened Sunday. I was joking and laughing around with an old friend and she said "Look his face is pink", not red as usual, but pink. Now she never said that before and I did not mention any treatment. I believe she recognized something different about me but did not know how to say it. An unusual comment for her.
This weekend I intend to take some pictures for comparison. We should be able to clearly see some differences.
I have 2 spots on my face that I am still working on with coconut oil, green tea extract and viagra. One is a diagnosed SCC and the other may be. So I am interested how internal and external treatment may help the SCC. The rest of my problems are BCCs and misc patchy sun damage (who knows what). I have stopped the coconut oil all over my face as of last week. This morning I will be using a brief coconut oil and sugar facial scrub in the shower to remove some dead skin.
Interesting note is that I do not see that much dead skin laying about but there is some on my forehead that I would like to try and get rid of.
anivoc: Yes there are basal cells and they are shrinking in diameter and height.
Interesting thing is I have a large wart under my chin that I have been fighting with vitamin D3 and more recently olive oil and thought I was making progress.
The wart has shrunken significantly since taking the pills and is almost flat. Maybe coincidence or time for the wart to go. But I did have 2 smaller warts on my left elbow that I was going to get around to. They were here last week and one is gone now and the other is almost gone. Who knows. They were there for a long time.
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Do you still see any improvements? I'm very curious because I think this could be a cancer cure and if it really works I would be very happy.
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Steven
80 Posts |
Posted - 04/17/2013 : 02:15:16
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It's good to hear about such improvements in such a small time span. I wonder if others share the same experience.
Please keep us updated on a daily basis (or even multiple times a day). |
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JimB
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Posted - 04/17/2013 : 16:45:48
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Things are still progressing well. Raised BCCs getting lower in height, some keratosis disappearing on my forehead. Skin actually feels oily without moisturizer applied.
Had some stomach problems this morning possible because of night life last night. Did not have large breakfast and much liquid. So had light headedness and nausea, after taking capsules this morning. Unusual symptoms for me. Sausage tortilla and bottle of water cured that.
Still taking Q&C and Green Tea Extract capsules.
uote]Originally posted by Steven
It's good to hear about such improvements in such a small time span. I wonder if others share the same experience.
Please keep us updated on a daily basis (or even multiple times a day).
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Steven
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Posted - 04/18/2013 : 08:33:11
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Can you tell me how fast the raised BCC's are shrinking? Just an estimation in millimeters a day. How big were the BCC's (and how many did you had) before you started Quercetin + Vitamin C?
If you encounter side effects such as the light nausea you had maybe it's better to wait a few days before taking another capsule? |
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JimB
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Posted - 04/19/2013 : 07:17:28
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Amazingly improvement of my skin occurs daily. Looking pretty good today. Will take photos Sat or Sun. I want a stark contrast with earlier photos.
Height changes hard to quantify .5 mm maybe but definitely can feel the changes with my finger. I don't think the changes are linear but larger changes occur first then additional changes are smaller.
Slight nausea occurred yesterday too. For about an hour but eating and drinking will end it. Could be all the vitamins I take. I had 2 breakfasts yesterday.
The Quercetin and Vitamin C and Green Tea Extract are definitely working. I take other vitamins but I have taken them before, but the Q&C/GTE addition does the work.
Thank you Steven for coming up with the idea.
I also take 10,000 units of vitamin D3, 400 units Vitamin E, 200mg COQ10. I try to take my blood pressure medicine earlier and take my vitamins later in the morning.
I mentioned earlier that I am working on a stubborn SCC externally. I have stopped working on it to see if the internal method works on the SCC by itself. The SCC is basically flat now but there is still little lumps of fiber at the edges of the SCC so I know it is not gone. I plan to go back externally if the internal method does not take it out. I feel that the Q&C/GTE is working on it but cannot quantify results. At least it seems to be containing it.
One other thing. I had 2 raised bleeding bccs on the back of my head. Each was about 2-3 mm. I had frozen them off with liquid butane wart remover. They came back and would bleed each day and scab up.
I am going to the doctor Monday for a basic yearly check up and was going to have the doctor freeze them because I can't see them and wanted to stop them asap. They are now gone. So I don't have to have him do it.
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Originally posted by Steven
Can you tell me how fast the raised BCC's are shrinking? Just an estimation in millimeters a day. How big were the BCC's (and how many did you had) before you started Quercetin + Vitamin C?
If you encounter side effects such as the light nausea you had maybe it's better to wait a few days before taking another capsule?
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anivoc
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Posted - 04/19/2013 : 07:58:26
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Hi Jim,
The green tea extract? In a quick review I didn't see Steven suggest that. Is this something you decided to add to the regime or something Steven suggested?
I have ordered the quercitin / Vit C and will jump on the guinea pig team as soon as it arrives. |
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Steven
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Posted - 04/19/2013 : 08:16:39
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I did suggest it at first but after reading on studies I thought it isn't what I need because it's not a good pro-oxidant. I think it's the Quercetin + Vitamin C that works. But I can always put it back if testimonials tell me that it's needed after all.
Jim, I read that nausea could be a symptom of TLS. I don't know but I thought if Quercetin + Vitamin C kills tumors (and we don't know how potent) it might also induce that problem.
The problem is I never get any feedback (messages) on my website so I don't know how big the possible TLS problem is. If I got feedback more I can see if it's really a problem or not. The good thing thought is that nobody ever tells me that the protocol doesn't work so I think it may work. But I never receive any messages strangely. |
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JimB
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Posted - 04/19/2013 : 08:30:22
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I thought I read it at his website, but I can not find the reference quickly. I thought he mentioned that the Q&C will work better with EGCG which is found in Green Tea Extract and other natural sources.
I had them around because of using them externally with viagra and they work externally but slower than the above method. I did not take the green tea extract internally before by itself so I do not know.
Maybe future posters can try it by itself. I have a couple of hundred around its easy to take them.
Here is Steven's website
http://www.acancer.info/
Here is another link discussing the 2 supplements together
http://www.naturalnews.com/035651_green_tea_quercetin_cancer_tumors.html
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Originally posted by anivoc
Hi Jim,
The green tea extract? In a quick review I didn't see Steven suggest that. Is this something you decided to add to the regime or something Steven suggested?
I have ordered the quercitin / Vit C and will jump on the guinea pig team as soon as it arrives.
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JimB
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Posted - 04/21/2013 : 16:04:25
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Here is a current picture with one from early February. I wanted to show the problem I was facing. A large red area existed on my face.
I still have bcc problems but everything is lower in height and smaller in diameter with better color in my face.
Total time for the Q&C has not been that long about a week so I am interested in continue the treatment and see how things progress.
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anivoc
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Posted - 04/21/2013 : 16:18:04
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HI Jim,
How many of the 700/200 vitacost quercitin /vit C capsules are you taking a day?
Got mine gulped down my first capsule this afternoon...we'll see. |
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JimB
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Posted - 04/21/2013 : 16:29:08
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Just one.
But I think down the road I may take 1 in morning 1 at night.
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Originally posted by anivoc
HI Jim,
How many of the 700/200 vitacost quercitin /vit C capsules are you taking a day?
Got mine gulped down my first capsule this afternoon...we'll see.
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anivoc
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Posted - 04/21/2013 : 17:24:38
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Thanks Jim..
I am going to go ahead and start with 2 a day...1 in the morning at breakfast and 1 at nigh at dinner time and see what happens.
I have a ton of AK damage and 3 nasty BCC's... one is huge at this point but sloooooowly and painfully being eaten away by vit c / MMS... I am hoping this is the golden ticket but I will hold back on my high hopes until I see what happens over the next few weeks...fingers seriously crossed and prayers for resolution of this affliction.
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JimB
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Posted - 04/21/2013 : 18:47:20
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I feel more use to it now but if you feel nauseous eat and drink to hydrate your kidney/sytem etc.
I believe I am now more use to it. Now but it takes a couple of days according to what I experienced.
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Thanks Jim..
I am going to go ahead and start with 2 a day...1 in the morning at breakfast and 1 at nigh at dinner time and see what happens.
I have a ton of AK damage and 3 nasty BCC's... one is huge at this point but sloooooowly and painfully being eaten away by vit c / MMS... I am hoping this is the golden ticket but I will hold back on my high hopes until I see what happens over the next few weeks...fingers seriously crossed and prayers for resolution of this affliction.
I will continue the astaxanthin and D3 along with
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Posted - 04/22/2013 : 02:14:46
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It's not normal to have nausea while using this treatment protocol. I would advise waiting a few days before taking another dosage if you do develop nausea.
I am thrilled having seen the fast results and hope that others will get good results as well.
By the way MMS is a pro-oxidant I read so it could make the quercetin + vitamin c many many times stronger. So I would be careful with that. |
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Posted - 04/23/2013 : 04:53:59
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How are you doing? Any news?
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Thanks Jim..
I am going to go ahead and start with 2 a day...1 in the morning at breakfast and 1 at nigh at dinner time and see what happens.
I have a ton of AK damage and 3 nasty BCC's... one is huge at this point but sloooooowly and painfully being eaten away by vit c / MMS... I am hoping this is the golden ticket but I will hold back on my high hopes until I see what happens over the next few weeks...fingers seriously crossed and prayers for resolution of this affliction.
I will continue the astaxanthin and D3 along with
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Posted - 04/23/2013 : 06:02:14
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Message to all people reading this:
If you have tried Quercetin + Vitamin C against cancer please post your results here. It doesn't matter if it's good or bad results. Please state the dosage you have used and for how long you have used it.
Jim, I have been promoting this cancer treatment protocol for a long time but even thought I do get about 10 visitors a day usually there is no-one who reports back results. Do you have any idea why?
I hope that will change and people will start posting their results with quercetin + vitamin c here. |
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anivoc
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Posted - 04/23/2013 : 14:37:49
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On my Third day...no nausea taking one Vitacost quercitin 700 mg / Vitamin C 250 mg twice a day. Once in the morning , once at night always with a little food in my stomach before taking.
Unfortunately not seeing any noticeable results as of yet.
I have a very large nodular BCC and two smaller problem BCC's..a lot of AK damage.
Things may be happening but I am going to just continue on for at least 30 days and see if things see actual improvement / shrinkage. Based on Jims reports I bit the bullet and ordered two bottles..a total of 360 capsules so I could use this for another 6 months at 2 capsules a day if I think it merits supplementing with this.
I don't want to clutter up this thread with a bunch of daily updates so I will hold off reporting back on this for at least a few more weeks unless something very significant happens prior to that.
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Posted - 04/23/2013 : 14:49:14
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I am using both Green Tea Extract and the Q&C.
May I suggest you brew some Lipton Green Tea with about 3 tea bags.
I also am going to go to 2 times per day.
Good luck.
Here is a link discussing the 2 supplements together
http://www.naturalnews.com/035651_green_tea_quercetin_cancer_tumors.html
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Originally posted by anivoc
On my Third day...no nausea taking one Vitacost quercitin 700 mg / Vitamin C 250 mg twice a day. Once in the morning , once at night always with a little food in my stomach before taking.
Unfortunately not seeing any noticeable results as of yet.
I have a very large nodular BCC and two smaller problem BCC's..a lot of AK damage.
Things may be happening but I am going to just continue on for at least 30 days and see if things see actual improvement / shrinkage. Based on Jims reports I bit the bullet and ordered two bottles..a total of 360 capsules so I could use this for another 6 months at 2 capsules a day if I think it merits supplementing with this.
I don't want to clutter up this thread with a bunch of daily updates so I will hold off reporting back on this for at least a few more weeks unless something very significant happens prior to that.
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Steven
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Posted - 04/24/2013 : 09:14:42
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anivoc,
Can you inform me about the results more often? I have sent you my email address. I just have to know if this thing works.
JimB,
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Posted - 04/25/2013 : 13:36:02
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Yes I am seeing improvement BCCs still getting lower in height. Approaching flatness but not disappearing yet. Hope they will when totally flat.
Remember these things were here for years so they really do not want to go away.
Using 2 treatments per day now. Missed one of them yesterday but will continue them.
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anivoc,
Can you inform me about the results more often? I have sent you my email address. I just have to know if this thing works.
JimB,
Do you still see more improvement?
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Steven
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Posted - 04/26/2013 : 05:44:15
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Anivoc, I tried to reach you after you sent me a message but I can't seem to reach you. Can you send me a message here?
http://www.qcancercure.com/ |
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Posted - 05/01/2013 : 14:47:12
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Has anyone else tried this treatment protocol?
Please post your results here! |
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Posted - 05/04/2013 : 07:22:32
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| JimB, how are you now? |
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JimB
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Posted - 05/04/2013 : 08:45:36
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Actually I am doing excellent.
I am taking one Vitacost Quercitin 250 mg / Vitamin C 700 mg capsule and one Vitacost Green Tea Extract 500 mg capsule twice a day now. I take them at the same time. It does have to be in your system all day or you feel as if progress is slipping back by the end of the day. If results continue as I expect and cancers are cured I will take the tablets once a day for life as I would expect that internally it would prevent growths of misc cancers. I do not have any symptoms with the mixture now as I first did. But on an empty stomach or low hydration I still feel a rush type effect when I first take them.
I have experienced improvement everyday taking the pills. The daily improvements are something only I can see or feel because it is minor but after awhile it all adds up.
As you can see from the picture in a previous post I had 3 Bcc's next to each other. Earlier this week all 3 swelled to the point of being annoying. But then at night all 3 collapsed leaving a partially empty callous type skin which can be shaved off. I've seen this before with topical treatments, it is the death throw of the BCC.
So all three went flat. Now one has raised its head again but I have no doubt it will be killed also. It is just tougher than the other 2.
My blotchy red skin is disappearing slowly. Also my SCC seems to be retreating slowly and healng.
I will take a picture tomorrow and add it here.
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JimB, how are you now?
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Steven
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Posted - 05/05/2013 : 03:55:00
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Jim,
With your help I can inform more cancer patients about this cancer treatment protocol. |
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JimB
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Posted - 05/05/2013 : 08:20:23
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Here is a 2 week picture to show the difference.
Yesterday after my post the remaining BCC collapsed again and I shaved more callous type skin off with no bleeding as the skin is significantly above the shrinking BCC.
It is still there. This is probably the 3rd time this one has collapsed. Once with topical treatment and 2 times with internal treatment. This one is stubborn but probably there for more years than I care to think about.
I have no problem with you quoting me and referencing this forum. I believe more progress is ahead but I cannot guarantee it. Not everything on my face is cancer so I do not how much will vanish under this method. My goal is to get rid of the BCCs and SCC on my face then I will sort out what remains.
And I am not responsible for other people's side effects if they on their own try this procedure as I am not recommending it to anyone only recording results for my own future use. It is very helpful to record your actions in a log, as you can refer back to them if you want to try it again.
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Jim,
With your help I can inform more cancer patients about this cancer treatment protocol.
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Steven
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Posted - 05/05/2013 : 08:57:24
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Ok I hope that the third BCC will disappear over time. I am also curious about if others will have the same results. If that is so that would be very exciting. And if not it's time to find out why.
I actually predicted that all cancers would disappear with this Quercetin + Vitamin C mix because it simply kills all the cancer cells and leaves all the healthy cells alive. Also, this mix is absolutely great because in theory it would penetrate everything (I call it super-bioavailable). Your results "prove" that I was right.
But when I said with your help I can inform more cancer patients I actually meant this: I spent alot of time and money on my website. And ofcourse I would do that after finding something that could be a "cancer cure". I am looking for people who can support me. I am just asking you to think about it. With support I can buy more advertisements to make my website more popular. On the long term, other cancer patients can see my website as well and try the treatment protocol using quercetin + vitamin c.
You can read all about it in the last section of my website:
http://treatcancerinfo.wix.com/cure
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Posted - 05/05/2013 : 18:22:39
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Steven
A google of the Quercitin Advocacy Group ( listed as the owner of your site) shows that group has been banned and post removed from other forums for trying to get "donations" You are treading that same path here and that needs to stop now.
Dan built this site 12 years ago and has supported this site solely out of his own pocket not asking for a penny from any of us ever. He makes no money off of this site though I am sure he has plenty of opportunity to have advertising.
He has done all of this out of the goodness of his heart and to give glory to God...all to help people in their battle against a very frustrating, disfiguring and sometimes deadly disease.
I have allowed you to post links to your site here because I believe it is relevant.
From here on please refrain from asking for financial support of your website or research on this site.
We are all here to beat skin cancer not to make a living at it.
Not trying to insult you or chase you away if you want to contribute viable relevant information to the quest here.
Thanks,
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Posted - 05/08/2013 : 08:11:11
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| Anivoc, are you going to try to add the green tea (extract)? I have read that self-brewed green tea has a good amount of EGCG in it. So called "ready to drink" green tea only has very low levels of EGCG. I really hope that with EGCG the mix will work. |
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Posted - 05/08/2013 : 08:24:43
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FYI
There are about 150 mg of green tea flavonoids per tea bag, I believe that not all are EGCG.
The green tea extract is 500 mg per capsule 50% EGCG.
By the way things are still improving. BCC getting real small but not gone yet, almost. SCC is starting to heal up well. Redness on face clearing also.
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Originally posted by Steven
Anivoc, are you going to try to add the green tea (extract)? I have read that self-brewed green tea has a good amount of EGCG in it. So called "ready to drink" green tea only has very low levels of EGCG. I really hope that with EGCG the mix will work.
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anivoc
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Posted - 05/08/2013 : 14:46:45
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Thanks for the link Steve...The Teas actually start on page 98 and go through to page 103....Interesting point is that most teas have quercitin as one of the flavinols in them..
cool
JimB
I have not yet started the green tea just using the quercitin with no noticeable changes happening on my VERY LARGE BCC's... that said, I have quite a bit of green tea in my possession fresh from China so I think it is time to add it to the regimine.
I will post back in a week or so and update if I think there is a difference...fingers crossed.
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Steven
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Posted - 05/09/2013 : 02:35:09
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| Jim which brand of green tea extract are you taking? Are you taking the green tea extract together with the quercetin + vitamin c? I ask this because vitamin c can increase the absorption of EGCG. |
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Posted - 05/09/2013 : 07:31:38
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I am taking one Vitacost Quercitin 250 mg / Vitamin C 700 mg capsule and one Vitacost Green Tea Extract 500 mg capsule twice a day now. I take them at the same time.
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Originally posted by Steven
Jim which brand of green tea extract are you taking? Are you taking the green tea extract together with the quercetin + vitamin c? I ask this because vitamin c can increase the absorption of EGCG.
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Steven
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Posted - 05/17/2013 : 12:32:41
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Jim,
Can you give me your email address? I can't send you any emails because your profile does not have the personal contact button. If you don't want to place your email address here in public please go to my forum and send an email to me.
Anivoc,
I still can't contact you. Your email address does not seem to work. |
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Steven
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Posted - 05/20/2013 : 11:59:24
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Strangely anivoc hasn't produced any good results (yet).
Jim said that there are still some tumors left.
I thought that the possible reason may be that EGCG isn't a very good pro-oxidant after all. It's not known if all the EGCG generates free radicals as it only generates free radicals (in the form of H2O2) under specific conditions. And it also isn't known exactly how much free radicals it generates.
So maybe you should use H2O2 instead of EGCG. H2O2 oxidizes quercetin + vitamin c immediately.
You can apply H2O2 topically, here are the instructions:
Rub your skin with quercetin + vitamin c. Add 1 mL of 3% H2O2, rub it well. Add a littlebit of water, rub it well. Add a littlebit of water again and rub (repeat adding water and rubbing if necessary). Afterwards wash it off with water.
Ofcourse you can also take it orally, the instructions for that are found on my website.
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JimB
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Posted - 05/22/2013 : 12:12:58
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I do believe that the strength of the capsules is related to whether you have eaten or not. From my own experience I have seen better daily results when I took my second pill before bed.
So now I take one pair of pills at 10am and 1 pair at 10pm.
I really prefer to eat as soon as I get up. So to me this is a good alternative.
As far as progress goes, it is slower. The BCC that I referred to in the above pictures is about .5mm in height now. This is significantly smaller. I would say when the treatment started the BCC was 2.5mm in height. There were 2 others that completely disappeared under the treatment earlier.
So the last week i started using a topical treatment Sunspot ES as found on amzon.com
The creme that I refer to is discussed elsewhere in the forum. My idea was to see how it worked with the internal treatment. It has cleaned up some of the red areas on my face and misc spots. Also the BCC without the Sunspot ES use to swell or shrink at various times during the day or day to day. Now the BCC does not swell just stays small. I will try to take a picture sometime this weekend.
I am interested in the H2O2 comments above and will take it under advisement but for now I want to try this.
http://www.amazon.com/LANE-LABS-Sunspot-ES-14/dp/B001E8OB3Y/ref=sr_1_2?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1369242376&sr=1-2&keywords=sunspot+es
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According to this article you get 3 times more EGCG if you take it on an empty stomach:
http://clincancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/11/12/4627.full
http://www.acneeinstein.com/hack-your-tea-2/
"There was >3.5-fold increase in the average maximum plasma concentration of free epigallocatechin gallate when Polyphenon E was taken in the fasting condition than when taken with food."
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Posted - 05/31/2013 : 05:54:20
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