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Grace2Go

USA
64 Posts

Posted - 04/22/2010 :  01:18:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Your bcc area looks great svanip! Thanks for posting the regular pictures of your progress.

My 3 little plants are growing very slowly, but as soon as one is big enough I'll be starting the sap treatment on my bcc.




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Originally posted by svanip

Hi just thought I would put into action a live treatment for your information if anyone would like to see the results....

So far - 24th of March 2010 - I went for a Skin Check with my local GP I pointed out a legion I was concerned about "not seen by Dr" - A Shave biopsy taken following day of a 7 x 4 mm legion on Upper Left Lip region....

9 Days Pass
Biopsy / Histology result was of a multifocal superficial BCC..

GP referred to plastic surgeon for surgical removal - surgeon not available to see me 12 weeks.....

After much deliberation and investigation I decided to try Petty Spurge treatment - it pretty much grows in every garden as a pest weed here......

6 April Image shows ľ Start "2 weeks post shave biopsy" - Then the following morning after initial application of the Milk/Sap.

Euphorbia Peplus - Petty Spurge - Radium Weed - Cancer Weed

SEEDS - try here www.beautanicals.com.au ( Service was very good )

WARNINGS:
This substance contains known carcinogens.... Try it at your own risk !!!

You may need to copy and paste this link.....

http://www.wildflowerfinder.org.uk/Flowers/S/Spurge(Petty)/Spurge(Petty).htm

Treatment:
What does the active ingredient do:

Basically the Sap starts to kill the Cancer Cells (Cell Necrosis) within hours of the application then the active components in the sap induce a secondary inflammatory response at the site of the application within 24-48 Hrs, which in turn generates tumor-specific antibodies to hopefully get rid of the balance of the nasty cells.... Something like that anyway - in very simple terms....

My treatment plan 12 Days twice a day application.....

Pre Treatment Image - 2 Weeks Post BCC Shave Biopsy

Me: svanip@hotmail.com

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First Day of Treatment !

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Day 2 approx 36 Hrs Post Euphorbia Peplus Sap/Latex Application - it is growing

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Day 2 Afternoon Update - Its drying out and not stinging so much.....

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Day Six - Morning Image - sorry re the lack of weekend images. It was a very painful weekend but not unbearable - the scab had completely covered the inflamed areas and came off on several occasions. I do quite a bit of sport - ie cycling and swimming so with the sweating and being in the water for several hours the area was scab free. The area seems to have stopped growing and feels like it is calming down somewhat ie: less pain and less blistering scabbing etc -I am opting for a review after the 12 Day x twice a day application period which is a little more than most I have read about online using Euphorbia Peplus raw sap only - I will continue to apply until the scabbing has been resolved then rest and recovery. I do not wash the sap off and I have not covered the area -unless showering etc then I re apply and let it dry on the treatment area - The amount of sap I use is quite small - a tiny drop - maybe the size of a pin head or two. This seems to be an ample quantity to soak into the treatment area - the sap is quite watery and not very viscous - it flows very willingly and spreads out over the area rapidly - the activity of the sap appears to radiate out and around the original treatment area without any need to cover it completely be careful this is a very strong substance indeed - as you can see from the images. I noted that several people had stated the the treatment was not painful - well on the face it is quite painful and it burns for several hours, if you can imagine a mild acid or caustic burn - that is what it is similar too - for me anyway.... enjoy

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Day 6 of treatment....

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Day 7 Images - The area appears to be healing and feeling OK the scabbing is very thick and firm now - the treatment area has some skin flaking around the margin - I am still applying the raw sap to the top of the scab after showering etc - it is still burning, so I guess the treatment is still working......

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This afternoons shot of the crusty demon - was a mild burning sensation all day "as usual" no great change today !

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Morning of Day 8 - Feeling similar scab is quite thick still some mild stinging after application of raw sap - not unbearable though.


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Afternoon Day 8 - Its Itchy and annoying !


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Morning Day 9 went for a hard twilight bike ride last night a lot of sweating etc - so in the middle of the scab the dark area is a crater about 3mm deep which obviously washed out with the fluids. this was the location of the original BCC Site - Ewwwwww Gross .....


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Afternoon Day 9 - Not much to report - its very crusty itchy and annoying - the scab is huge and very thick, you cant see it on the image really...


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Morning Day 10 - Went for a 2K swim last night - scab is still mainly intact due to attached beard I think - not much change to the area, it is tender and a little itchy quite a bit of new pink skin is visible - I use a prescription antibacterial cream called Bactroban 2% at night over the entire area - want to minimize any secondary infection after swimming etc.

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Afternoon Day 10 - Feeling OK at the moment not much pain at all today, scab is shrinking "with help" if it wasn't in such a prominent position you would barley know it was there


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Morning Day 13 after some sporting activities and shaving the large scabs came of with a smaller center piece from the original BCC site still remains... have stopped the application of the raw sap and am covering the area with Bactroban 2% to aid in healing the area... lets hope that the BCC is dead and gone !!!


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Afternoon Day 13

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Day 14 Scab came off and left area visible......Second image is a close up shot - not sure if the BCC is gone or still alive.....


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Afternoon Day 14
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Morning Day 15 Healing well.....
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Day 15 afternoon image

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Day 16 Morning Image (Vitamin E used over night)


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thanks01

USA
170 Posts

Posted - 04/22/2010 :  18:18:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looks like it is quieting down. Please do not give up on keeping us posted until you have nice renewed skin - hopefully.
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ewittman

USA
3 Posts

Posted - 04/22/2010 :  22:08:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My plants finally grew large enough and I've been applying PS to the suspected area on the side of my nose. I plan to do a pictorial as svanip did. Very interesting process. I will say that not only did the PS sap aggressively go after my confirmed BC spot (via biopsy), but went to a much larger area including suspected spots I had in other small spots on my nose and on my check. It's almost as if the PS sap attacks the network where BC has grown.

The biggest question I have of others who have tried is both when to stop and what are proven after treatment solutions (e.g. Vitamin E vs. Neosporin, etc.) I'm also trying on other spots and it appears that there is a reaction but more of a swelling of the skin vs. the aggressive deep attack on the proven BC areas. So my personal theory is that even "good" skin has a reaction but it's more like a blistering reaction vs. an attack on the underlying skin where BC has dug in. Again, we are all playing MDs on this forum and we've all got our personal theories but this is my current feeling given skin reactions after the past 10 days of using the PS sap.

More to report as I progress...
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svanip

Australia
16 Posts

Posted - 04/24/2010 :  23:20:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Most of the reports i could find and the raw sap studies - refer to the original trials that were 3 applications per day for twelve days - and yep i would recommend keeping the area scab free where possible so the sap can be applied into the main area of the bcc site "only" remembering that it spreads very well...:-)

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Originally posted by ewittman

My plants finally grew large enough and I've been applying PS to the suspected area on the side of my nose. I plan to do a pictorial as svanip did. Very interesting process. I will say that not only did the PS sap aggressively go after my confirmed BC spot (via biopsy), but went to a much larger area including suspected spots I had in other small spots on my nose and on my check. It's almost as if the PS sap attacks the network where BC has grown.

The biggest question I have of others who have tried is both when to stop and what are proven after treatment solutions (e.g. Vitamin E vs. Neosporin, etc.) I'm also trying on other spots and it appears that there is a reaction but more of a swelling of the skin vs. the aggressive deep attack on the proven BC areas. So my personal theory is that even "good" skin has a reaction but it's more like a blistering reaction vs. an attack on the underlying skin where BC has dug in. Again, we are all playing MDs on this forum and we've all got our personal theories but this is my current feeling given skin reactions after the past 10 days of using the PS sap.

More to report as I progress...


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svanip

Australia
16 Posts

Posted - 04/27/2010 :  02:34:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Treatment using Petty Spurge for BCC

Images in series FYI

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svanip

Australia
16 Posts

Posted - 04/27/2010 :  02:54:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi just thought I would put into action a live treatment for your information if anyone would like to see the results....

So far - 24th of March 2010 - I went for a Skin Check with my local GP I pointed out a legion I was concerned about "not seen by Dr" - A Shave biopsy taken following day of a 7 x 4 mm legion on Upper Left Lip region....

9 Days Pass
Biopsy / Histology result was of a multifocal superficial BCC..

GP referred to plastic surgeon for surgical removal - surgeon not available to see me 12 weeks.....

After much deliberation and investigation I decided to try Petty Spurge treatment - it pretty much grows in every garden as a pest weed here......

6 April Image shows ľ Start "2 weeks post shave biopsy" - Then the following morning after initial application of the Milk/Sap.

Euphorbia Peplus - Petty Spurge - Radium Weed - Cancer Weed

SEEDS - try here www.beautanicals.com.au ( Service was very good )

WARNINGS:
This substance contains known carcinogens.... Try it at your own risk !!!

You may need to copy and paste this link.....

http://www.wildflowerfinder.org.uk/Flowers/S/Spurge(Petty)/Spurge(Petty).htm

Treatment:
What does the active ingredient do:

Basically the Sap starts to kill the Cancer Cells (Cell Necrosis) within hours of the application then the active components in the sap induce a secondary inflammatory response at the site of the application within 24-48 Hrs, which in turn generates tumor-specific antibodies to hopefully get rid of the balance of the nasty cells.... Something like that anyway - in very simple terms....

My treatment plan 12 Days twice a day application.....

Me: svanip@hotmail.com

Pre Treatment Image - 2 Weeks Post BCC Shave Biopsy

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Day 2 approx 36 Hrs Post Euphorbia Peplus Sap/Latex Application - it is growing
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Day 2 Afternoon Update - Its drying out and not stinging so much.....
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Day Six - Morning Image - sorry re the lack of weekend images. It was a very painful weekend but not unbearable - the scab had completely covered the inflamed areas and came off on several occasions. I do quite a bit of sport - ie cycling and swimming so with the sweating and being in the water for several hours the area was scab free. The area seems to have stopped growing and feels like it is calming down somewhat ie: less pain and less blistering scabbing etc -I am opting for a review after the 12 Day x twice a day application period which is a little more than most I have read about online using Euphorbia Peplus raw sap only - I will continue to apply until the scabbing has been resolved then rest and recovery. I do not wash the sap off and I have not covered the area -unless showering etc then I re apply and let it dry on the treatment area - The amount of sap I use is quite small - a tiny drop - maybe the size of a pin head or two. This seems to be an ample quantity to soak into the treatment area - the sap is quite watery and not very viscous - it flows very willingly and spreads out over the area rapidly - the activity of the sap appears to radiate out and around the original treatment area without any need to cover it completely be careful this is a very strong substance indeed - as you can see from the images. I noted that several people had stated the the treatment was not painful - well on the face it is quite painful and it burns for several hours, if you can imagine a mild acid or caustic burn - that is what it is similar too - for me anyway.... enjoy
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Day 6 afternoon image
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Day 7 Images - The area appears to be healing and feeling OK the scabbing is very thick and firm now - the treatment area has some skin flaking around the margin - I am still applying the raw sap to the top of the scab after showering etc - it is still burning, so I guess the treatment is still working......
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This afternoons shot of the crusty demon - was a mild burning sensation all day "as usual" no great change today !
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Morning of Day 8 - Feeling similar scab is quite thick still some mild stinging after application of raw sap - not unbearable though.
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Afternoon Day 8 - Its Itchy and annoying !
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Morning Day 9 went for a hard twilight bike ride last night a lot of sweating etc - so in the middle of the scab the dark area is a crater about 3mm deep which obviously washed out with the fluids. this was the location of the original BCC Site - Ewwwwww Gross .....
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Afternoon Day 9 - Not much to report - its very crusty itchy and annoying - the scab is huge and very thick, you cant see it on the image really...
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Morning Day 10 - Went for a 2K swim last night - scab is still mainly intact due to attached beard I think - not much change to the area, it is tender and a little itchy quite a bit of new pink skin is visible - I use a prescription antibacterial cream called Bactroban 2% at night over the entire area - want to minimize any secondary infection after swimming etc.
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Afternoon Day 10 - Feeling OK at the moment not much pain at all today, scab is shrinking "with help" if it wasn't in such a prominent position you would barley know it was there
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Morning Day 13 after some sporting activities and shaving the large scabs came of with a smaller center piece from the original BCC site still remains... have stopped the application of the raw sap and am covering the area with Bactroban 2% to aid in healing the area... lets hope that the BCC is dead and gone !!!
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Afternoon Day 13
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This is a close up of the site morning Day 13 v's Day 1 pre application..
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Day 14 Scab came off and left area visible......Second image is a close up shot - not sure if the BCC is gone or still alive.....
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Morning Day 15 Healing well.....
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adfecteau

USA
5 Posts

Posted - 05/02/2010 :  12:33:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mikE1

Hi Everyone:

I've been away from the forum for a few months, but back in circulation now. My Petty Spurge plants are doing well and I've saved enough seed to provide for anyone who needs some. I've had a BCC about the size of a nickel on my nose for over a year. Another one the size of a quarter on my RH forehead for over two years. Nothing I've tried has had much effect on either of these until now. My nose is completely cleared up, (praise the Lord!) and my forehead is well on the way to being cleared up. I thank God for His wisdom in leading to me to this wonderful answer to a terrible scourge and I recommend it for anyone with BCC. It simply works! The seeds themselves are very tiny. Once germinated, they don't seem to need much care. The plants do not like extreme heat or cold. When mature, they form tiny flowers and seed pods. I will always keep some seed available for this remarkable plant which has done so much for me.



Hi Mike,

I am interested in some seeds and or a plant to use - large basal cell carcinoma on my forehead. This forum won't let me email you since I don't have enough posts or something. I'm fairly new to this forum. IS there a way for you to email me? My email is adfecteau@hotmail.com if this allows it to go through. I would like to try this after my scheduled mohs surgery and on another suspect spot. Thank you very much
Alexis
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dan

607 Posts

Posted - 05/04/2010 :  00:47:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry for the frustration for Alexis and others with the email problem. You need at least one post to be able to send an email. You can delete your post immediately and still send emails I think. But hopefully you will stay with us.
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Grace2Go

USA
64 Posts

Posted - 05/04/2010 :  11:59:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Does anyone know about how long the plants take to grow big enough to have useable sap? I have mine growing in clay pots with organic soil, in a sunny spot, watering with mostly rain water. I germinated 7 seeds, but only 3 came up in the starter soil. Now each plant has six tiny leaves on a spindly stem about 1-3/4 inches tall, but it's taken them almost 8 weeks to get to this size. The plants look healthy, they just aren't growing very fast.

I have more seeds, so I'm thinking about doing another batch going by the Farmer's Almanac gardening guide for best days to plant. I didn't think to check it before starting my PS seeds, but more than half of them did die in the soil, and FA says seeds die in the soil if you plant at the wrong time. I've known many farmers to go by the almanac for planting their crops, and my grandparents always planted their gardens by the almanac. Then it was just a small book that came out once a year that they consulted for everything from planting to fishing, weather and weaning. Now some parts of it are available online too, and it's interesting to see what's in the "Best Days" section for various things.

http://www.farmersalmanac.com/calendar/gardening/

Sorry for the ramble, this bcc has been tormenting me day and night and I'm wanting it to be gone. I don't want to start more plants if the other ones will be ready soon, since they probably wouldn't last in the ground here (I'm in a zone where they don't naturally grow, and apparently they know it!!) and I don't have enough room for an abundance of PS house plants.

Having a kind of day,
Grace2Go


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Originally posted by svanip

Hi just thought I would put into action a live treatment for your information if anyone would like to see the results....



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Gabby

USA
21 Posts

Posted - 05/04/2010 :  22:19:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by adfecteau

quote:
Originally posted by mikE1

Hi Everyone:

I've been away from the forum for a few months, but back in circulation now. My Petty Spurge plants are doing well and I've saved enough seed to provide for anyone who needs some. I've had a BCC about the size of a nickel on my nose for over a year. Another one the size of a quarter on my RH forehead for over two years. Nothing I've tried has had much effect on either of these until now. My nose is completely cleared up, (praise the Lord!) and my forehead is well on the way to being cleared up. I thank God for His wisdom in leading to me to this wonderful answer to a terrible scourge and I recommend it for anyone with BCC. It simply works! The seeds themselves are very tiny. Once germinated, they don't seem to need much care. The plants do not like extreme heat or cold. When mature, they form tiny flowers and seed pods. I will always keep some seed available for this remarkable plant which has done so much for me.



Hi Mike,

I am interested in some seeds and or a plant to use - large basal cell carcinoma on my forehead. This forum won't let me email you since I don't have enough posts or something. I'm fairly new to this forum. IS there a way for you to email me? My email is adfecteau@hotmail.com if this allows it to go through. I would like to try this after my scheduled mohs surgery and on another suspect spot. Thank you very much
Alexis



Alexis,

I didn't have enough activity to be able to use the direct email feature either. Mike saw my post and promptly got in touch with me. I bet he responds quickly to you as well.

All the best, kiddo!

Gabby
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adfecteau

USA
5 Posts

Posted - 05/05/2010 :  00:55:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gabby

quote:
Originally posted by adfecteau

quote:
Originally posted by mikE1

Hi Everyone:

I've been away from the forum for a few months, but back in circulation now. My Petty Spurge plants are doing well and I've saved enough seed to provide for anyone who needs some. I've had a BCC about the size of a nickel on my nose for over a year. Another one the size of a quarter on my RH forehead for over two years. Nothing I've tried has had much effect on either of these until now. My nose is completely cleared up, (praise the Lord!) and my forehead is well on the way to being cleared up. I thank God for His wisdom in leading to me to this wonderful answer to a terrible scourge and I recommend it for anyone with BCC. It simply works! The seeds themselves are very tiny. Once germinated, they don't seem to need much care. The plants do not like extreme heat or cold. When mature, they form tiny flowers and seed pods. I will always keep some seed available for this remarkable plant which has done so much for me.



Hi Mike,

I am interested in some seeds and or a plant to use - large basal cell carcinoma on my forehead. This forum won't let me email you since I don't have enough posts or something. I'm fairly new to this forum. IS there a way for you to email me? My email is adfecteau@hotmail.com if this allows it to go through. I would like to try this after my scheduled mohs surgery and on another suspect spot. Thank you very much
Alexis



Alexis,

I didn't have enough activity to be able to use the direct email feature either. Mike saw my post and promptly got in touch with me. I bet he responds quickly to you as well.

All the best, kiddo!

Gabby



Looks like you have to do at least one post to be able to email. I guess we're both good now!

Alexis
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beecave

USA
1 Posts

Posted - 05/05/2010 :  15:37:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dear Friends,


I had my first BCC surgically removed from the left side of my forehead back in 1998. Since then I have had four other BCC's removed by surgery from my face/neck and have had many scabby spots on my head and arms frozen or burned off. I recently had two other Bcc's on my face and neck confirmed by biopsy, and am using Imiquimod on my cheeks and neck per my doctors advice to treat those. I am a week into that treatment. Back in March, after reading your posts here, I ordered PS seeds from Australia, and have been growing those since early April 2010. My question is this. The plants should be ready to use around the end of June. How long should I wait before treating any left over spots using PS? I know that you probably aren't MD's, but any personal advice would be much appreciated.
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adfecteau

USA
5 Posts

Posted - 05/05/2010 :  19:38:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Irene

My plants are doing great now and I have harvested many seeds - let me know if you would like to get some.
ilester@sympatico.ca

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Hi -

I just ordered seeds and will be growing them soon, any tips on getting them germinate well and to flourish?

Alexis
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Dan A

Canada
5 Posts

Posted - 05/06/2010 :  10:51:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I used a product called "wonder soil" (google it). Just keep them moist and they will germinate in about a week. Once they came up I put them under a grow light, keeping them moist or even wet, don't let them dry out. I started the seeds March 10th and now the bush is about 8" round and had to re-pot it twice and it's due for another now.
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adfecteau

USA
5 Posts

Posted - 05/09/2010 :  14:33:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dan A

I used a product called "wonder soil" (google it). Just keep them moist and they will germinate in about a week. Once they came up I put them under a grow light, keeping them moist or even wet, don't let them dry out. I started the seeds March 10th and now the bush is about 8" round and had to re-pot it twice and it's due for another now.




Thanks Dan, I'll do that. I hope it works. I had Mohs surgery on Wed, developed a rapid massive staph infection and have been hospitalized on Vancomycin for 2 days now....topical treatment would be preferable...
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svanip

Australia
16 Posts

Posted - 05/09/2010 :  19:35:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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thanks01

USA
170 Posts

Posted - 05/09/2010 :  20:40:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Svanip,
I am asking this question sincerely: what difference do you see between Day 31 and Day 1, at which time is your skin in better condition and do you think the cancer is gone by Day 31? The reason I ask is that I see as much if not more inflammation on Day 31, and I find it hard to tell if this is just a residual reaction and you can call it a success. This is why I have previously asked you to keep us posted for some time after the "experiment." Perhaps the pink inflammation still remaining will disappear in the next week or so. I would like to know. Are you planning to get another biopsy to test the success here? I ask because it seems that it is at this stage - the "finish" - that the determination of success becomes questionable.
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svanip

Australia
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Posted - 05/10/2010 :  20:23:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi, I hope that the BCC is all gone - the skin is not inflamed really its pink and new' my appointment with the Plastic surgeon is on June 4th, so at that point I will have an informed answer, for which I am looking forward to a positive result. I will have a biopsy if the Plastic Surgeon recommends one - also the images are quite harsh you can see a lot more than is seen by the eye normally - but in general the area feels different and is slowly healing I think it will take quite some time to get back to normal, will keep you up to date !!


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Originally posted by thanks01

Svanip,
I am asking this question sincerely: what difference do you see between Day 31 and Day 1, at which time is your skin in better condition and do you think the cancer is gone by Day 31? The reason I ask is that I see as much if not more inflammation on Day 31, and I find it hard to tell if this is just a residual reaction and you can call it a success. This is why I have previously asked you to keep us posted for some time after the "experiment." Perhaps the pink inflammation still remaining will disappear in the next week or so. I would like to know. Are you planning to get another biopsy to test the success here? I ask because it seems that it is at this stage - the "finish" - that the determination of success becomes questionable.

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thanks01

USA
170 Posts

Posted - 05/11/2010 :  10:28:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks, Svanip, I'll be checking in multiple times in the future to discover your follow-up. It's interesting, at least, that the spot "feels better" after treatment, so what the photos show may, in fact, be a difference. My hope for you is that this treatment has been successful. Thanks01

Edited by - thanks01 on 05/11/2010 10:30:29
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svanip

Australia
16 Posts

Posted - 05/11/2010 :  20:13:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ok here is a full shot of my ugly dial so you can see the area in a normal image style .
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Thanks, Svanip, I'll be checking in multiple times in the future to discover your follow-up. It's interesting, at least, that the spot "feels better" after treatment, so what the photos show may, in fact, be a difference. My hope for you is that this treatment has been successful. Thanks01

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Grace2Go

USA
64 Posts

Posted - 05/11/2010 :  20:30:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow! If I didn't know where the spot was from your previous pics it wouldn't have been easy to find! It looks like it's healing and blending in very well. Congratulations!!

My plants are still taking their sweet time growing, but they look better since I started watering every day, and put the pot in a less sunny spot. They were getting afternoon sun, now they just get a couple of hours of morning sun, and seem to like that better too.

Thanks for the updates!

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Originally posted by svanip

Ok here is a full shot of my ugly dial so you can see the area in a normal image style .

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Originally posted by thanks01

Thanks, Svanip, I'll be checking in multiple times in the future to discover your follow-up. It's interesting, at least, that the spot "feels better" after treatment, so what the photos show may, in fact, be a difference. My hope for you is that this treatment has been successful. Thanks01



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Jul

USA
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Posted - 05/18/2010 :  14:52:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
does anyone have seeds still available? I would be interested in getting some.

Thanks
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Irene

Canada
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Posted - 05/18/2010 :  17:42:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have fresh seeds - if you wish to purchase some, please contact me at ilester@sympatico.ca

Irene


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Petty Spurge is one of the most promising and so far successful home remedy treatments for skin cancer. People use a drop of sap from the plant directly on skin cancers. If you want to try this remedy, it is probably best to obtain the seeds from known good plants and grow your own plants. A source of seeds is http://www.beautanicals.com.au/Petty%20spurge.html The following is part of the original introduction from drbeckl along with a picture of petty spurge from Irene. Be very careful not to get any sap in the eye. I found this link from 2004 in drbeckl's list worthwhile reading http://plantmed.blogspot.com/



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Brigid

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Posted - 05/21/2010 :  17:26:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
SoFi and Ridgeback,

Thank you for your posts on petty spurge. I'm going to try it. From a quick look at the link one of you (?) posted, the phase 3 trials sounds like it works for AKs on head and face, but you and Pikirny are saying it works for full-blown BCCs, right? Also, has anyone had success with it for SCCs?

Looking forward to hearing from anyone who's had success with it!

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Brigid

68 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2010 :  17:57:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by SoFl

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Originally posted by RidgebackDogs

SoFl Hi!

How is the spot on the leg doing? Are all the spots you had gone now???
Please update us! Thank you!



I am very happy to report that so far, every spot I have treated has been cured. When I say cured I mean no visible signs of cancer and a stable area that doesn't look like there is anything active or remaining. So I saved about $4,000 on the confirmed basil cell on my forehead for which he wanted to do more mohs surgery and then plastic surgery, and even more importantly the petty spurge somehow even though it ate very deep, left no visible scar unless you look at it from the exact right angle and from a few inches away. Furthermore, the areas it ate would have never been successfully removed with mohs, because there was unconnected cancer. In other words, they could have got a good margin, but unknown to them there was another area 1 or 2 mm from the main part. The petty spurge found it all.

Leg - cured.

Arm - cured.

I want to say thanks to this board. It took me lot of trial and error, and after trying basically everything with mixed results, I have a skin cancer treatment that works for me, and now I have a garden with petty spurge in it.

I will follow up by saying that in spite of a vigorous initial reaction, I have found that for me the best way to use it is until the entire treatment area looks inflamed but all the same. Basically I just use it until I'm sure it's done doing it's work. On the spot on my leg it ate a hole the size of a pencil eraser about 2mm deep, but then as I kept treating it, it started to heal up while it was still being treated. It wiped out the surrounding suspicious area without going as deep. I still have a small visible scar from the deep area, but the rest of the area looks like fine new skin.

I will do another report back in a year or so or if it returns in any of the spots. In the meantime I have a few AK's that I'm going to wipe out and basically I am done with dermatologists.

I would encourage other people who are messing around with stuff that may or may not work to look into petty spurge.

It's a great feeling to finally be in control of my bad skin and to have basically a free way to treat it instead of seeing Dr Hacker every 3 months. 2 of the 4 spots I was working on were areas that he had already treated and supposedly cured.

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Brigid

68 Posts

Posted - 05/22/2010 :  17:45:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Has anyone used petty spurge for *invasive* basal cell carcinoma and also for squamous cell carcinoma? Does it work for these? I have both. Getting a little worried b/c I've had the tumors for 2 years. Want to avoid Mohs.

Hope a few people will respond...
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Juls

USA
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Posted - 05/28/2010 :  13:35:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I ordered some Petty Spurge. Planted all the seeds in some Jiffy seedling potting soil and jiffy starter pots. All the seeds sprouted in 4 days. I was excited. I first had them in a kitchen window and seemed to be doing well. I live in Tx and as the weather is now HOT and the kitchen stays warmer than the rest of the house, and reading the plant like cool conditions, I moved them to my bedroom. I built a little shelf in the window that gets light but not full sun. I also installed a Philips 15 watt plant/aquarium fluorescent light above them for lack of light they may get. They seemed to be doing good but really slow slow growing. It's been 2 months and they only got about 2" high. I water them every other day since the soil seems to stay moist. I did take the little jiffy pots they were growing in and put them in some clay pots with miracle grow potting soil. The last 2 days they have all fallen over, shriveled up except 1 atm. Bottom leaves are falling off it as well. So sure it will fall over here to anytime. I did order 5 more packs of seeds to start over. Just didn't have very good success on this first batch. I'm bummed. Those that have grown with success any tips would be most appreciated. Like I said I live in Galveston, tx so must grow inside. My bedroom has it's own ac unit and I keep the room at 71 so figured that would be the best and coolest place for them.

I also made a list of all the products to buy in the mean time on the "eggplant,orange oil,dmso,sunspot es,etc forum" I got the "Now" orange oil. I put that with some dmso on some of my small facial spots just to see how it would react before putting anything on some of my larger spots. HOLY MOLY lit me up. I was on fire dancing. Left it for about 5 min. all I could stand. Tried like crazy washing it but with the dmso had to endure the "seemed like an hr" 10 min of burn. On the larger ones I'm doing the "egg plant mixture" swapping some h2o2/ammonia/dmso mixture. Also doing Sunspot/dmso when I go to bed. I can do a little Sunspot on the quarter size one on my upper lip mixed with some pure Aloe. Burn is bearable till it ceases. Yes I'm playing around with some of these mixtures till I can ever get some Petty Spurge to grow.

I really love this site. Some very interesting info on here.

Oh yea and I did some vitamin C/h2o2/dmso on the large one on my lip. The space stations almost had company. Yes used the wrong "C". Wasn't pretty seeing me dancing and crying. I'm experimenting here hoping to find something that will work. Had the one on my upper lip removed a few yrs, back and it came back triple it's size. I know this time I'll end up losing half my lip and wherever else it has spread. I'll try anything to avoid that. I have numerous spots now on my face,arms,chest. Thanks to everyone here on this site with your information. My turn to play guinea pig.

Juls
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Grace2Go

USA
64 Posts

Posted - 05/28/2010 :  15:04:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Juls,

My experience with growing Petty Spurge has been the same as yours, they germinated really well, but after getting a couple of inches tall and a few leaves, they stopped growing. I've tried more water, less water, more sun, less sun, cooler, warmer, etc. and even rain water (which initially perked them up, then nothing).

I live in the south also where it's too hot to put them outside, but I'm ready to stick them in the ground and let them fend for themselves. In the meantime, my bcc is giving me fits!

One thing I haven't tried yet is Cansema, now called Amazon Salve. What I've read about using bloodroot has made me afraid to try it so far, but at this point my face is already disfigured from the bcc eating away at it, and I'm determined to not let the bcc win!

I hope you have better results with your next ps batch.

Keep us updated,
(Need)Grace 2 (keep)Go(ing)

quote:
Originally posted by Juls

I ordered some Petty Spurge. Planted all the seeds in some Jiffy seedling potting soil and jiffy starter pots. All the seeds sprouted in 4 days. I was excited. I first had them in a kitchen window and seemed to be doing well. I live in Tx and as the weather is now HOT and the kitchen stays warmer than the rest of the house, and reading the plant like cool conditions, I moved them to my bedroom. I built a little shelf in the window that gets light but not full sun. I also installed a Philips 15 watt plant/aquarium fluorescent light above them for lack of light they may get. They seemed to be doing good but really slow slow growing. It's been 2 months and they only got about 2" high. I water them every other day since the soil seems to stay moist. I did take the little jiffy pots they were growing in and put them in some clay pots with miracle grow potting soil. The last 2 days they have all fallen over, shriveled up except 1 atm. Bottom leaves are falling off it as well. So sure it will fall over here to anytime. I did order 5 more packs of seeds to start over. Just didn't have very good success on this first batch. I'm bummed. Those that have grown with success any tips would be most appreciated. Like I said I live in Galveston, tx so must grow inside. My bedroom has it's own ac unit and I keep the room at 71 so figured that would be the best and coolest place for them.

I also made a list of all the products to buy in the mean time on the "eggplant,orange oil,dmso,sunspot es,etc forum" I got the "Now" orange oil. I put that with some dmso on some of my small facial spots just to see how it would react before putting anything on some of my larger spots. HOLY MOLY lit me up. I was on fire dancing. Left it for about 5 min. all I could stand. Tried like crazy washing it but with the dmso had to endure the "seemed like an hr" 10 min of burn. On the larger ones I'm doing the "egg plant mixture" swapping some h2o2/ammonia/dmso mixture. Also doing Sunspot/dmso when I go to bed. I can do a little Sunspot on the quarter size one on my upper lip mixed with some pure Aloe. Burn is bearable till it ceases. Yes I'm playing around with some of these mixtures till I can ever get some Petty Spurge to grow.

I really love this site. Some very interesting info on here.

Oh yea and I did some vitamin C/h2o2/dmso on the large one on my lip. The space stations almost had company. Yes used the wrong "C". Wasn't pretty seeing me dancing and crying. I'm experimenting here hoping to find something that will work. Had the one on my upper lip removed a few yrs, back and it came back triple it's size. I know this time I'll end up losing half my lip and wherever else it has spread. I'll try anything to avoid that. I have numerous spots now on my face,arms,chest. Thanks to everyone here on this site with your information. My turn to play guinea pig.

Juls

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Gabby

USA
21 Posts

Posted - 05/31/2010 :  11:58:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Grace,

Planted twenty-odd seeds in planting mix placed in pressed cardboard egg flats (three nested together so they don't completely rot before the baby seedlings are ready for a transplant into a pot). After a week or 10 days I now have eight or nine half inch sprouts :) so far have just placed the flat in an east window--or out on the back deck which is pretty well shaded. They seemed to come up over-night. I prolly planted them deeper than was optimal for germination. Thanks to Mike on this list for the seeds. His are known good plants.

Will let you know how my progress in growing the plants goes. We are located on the north side of Atlanta, in the foothills of the Blue Ridge Mtns.--lots of other "spurge" cousins that happily contaminate my flowerbeds and bare areas around the back side of my house, so I have hope for a good crop! The weather here, particularly in the spring is moderate, and this year we have been blessed with rain at good intervals.

More than one "crusty patch" that get periodic liquid nitrogen treatment courtesy of my Kaiser derm is now awaiting anointing with PS sap as soon as the plants are large enough.

I hope your horticultural efforts bear "fruit".

Take good care of yourself.
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Megan Hunter

Ireland
2 Posts

Posted - 06/01/2010 :  13:23:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi guys my mum has basale skin carcinoma on her face and the surgeons keep cutting it out only for it to reappear. I have ordered seeds from Australia and hope to grow the radium weed; euphorbia peplus. Has anyone any advice on how to utilise the milky sap? and does it hurt applying it
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waverider

76 Posts

Posted - 06/01/2010 :  13:51:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The previous pages of this thread -- especially pages 1 and 2 -- are a primer for using and applying petty spurge. There's a wealth of info in the posts, particularly those made by the poster "SoFl". It's a lot of reading to do but pretty much the most comprehensive stuff you will find anywhere on the topic.
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Megan Hunter

Ireland
2 Posts

Posted - 06/01/2010 :  14:08:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am going to experiment on my mums face with petty spurge sap and would like as much advice as possible on what to do and how much to put on etc. thank you guys
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Gabby

USA
21 Posts

Posted - 06/01/2010 :  15:17:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ms. Hunter,

Do read the entire three full pages of this thread, as Waverider offered. You will have most all of your questions answered.

Good luck to you and your Mom. As many posters and Dan have made abundantly clear, it is essential that the petty spurge sap NOT be allowed into the eye. It may result in blindness.
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txhouston

USA
24 Posts

Posted - 06/06/2010 :  12:59:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Juls

I ordered some Petty Spurge. Planted all the seeds in some Jiffy seedling potting soil and jiffy starter pots. All the seeds sprouted in 4 days. I was excited. I first had them in a kitchen window and seemed to be doing well. I live in Tx and as the weather is now HOT and the kitchen stays warmer than the rest of the house, and reading the plant like cool conditions, I moved them to my bedroom. I built a little shelf in the window that gets light but not full sun. I also installed a Philips 15 watt plant/aquarium fluorescent light above them for lack of light they may get. They seemed to be doing good but really slow slow growing. It's been 2 months and they only got about 2" high. I water them every other day since the soil seems to stay moist. I did take the little jiffy pots they were growing in and put them in some clay pots with miracle grow potting soil. The last 2 days they have all fallen over, shriveled up except 1 atm. Bottom leaves are falling off it as well. So sure it will fall over here to anytime. I did order 5 more packs of seeds to start over. Just didn't have very good success on this first batch. I'm bummed. Those that have grown with success any tips would be most appreciated. Like I said I live in Galveston, tx so must grow inside. My bedroom has it's own ac unit and I keep the room at 71 so figured that would be the best and coolest place for them.

I also made a list of all the products to buy in the mean time on the "eggplant,orange oil,dmso,sunspot es,etc forum" I got the "Now" orange oil. I put that with some dmso on some of my small facial spots just to see how it would react before putting anything on some of my larger spots. HOLY MOLY lit me up. I was on fire dancing. Left it for about 5 min. all I could stand. Tried like crazy washing it but with the dmso had to endure the "seemed like an hr" 10 min of burn. On the larger ones I'm doing the "egg plant mixture" swapping some h2o2/ammonia/dmso mixture. Also doing Sunspot/dmso when I go to bed. I can do a little Sunspot on the quarter size one on my upper lip mixed with some pure Aloe. Burn is bearable till it ceases. Yes I'm playing around with some of these mixtures till I can ever get some Petty Spurge to grow.

I really love this site. Some very interesting info on here.

Oh yea and I did some vitamin C/h2o2/dmso on the large one on my lip. The space stations almost had company. Yes used the wrong "C". Wasn't pretty seeing me dancing and crying. I'm experimenting here hoping to find something that will work. Had the one on my upper lip removed a few yrs, back and it came back triple it's size. I know this time I'll end up losing half my lip and wherever else it has spread. I'll try anything to avoid that. I have numerous spots now on my face,arms,chest. Thanks to everyone here on this site with your information. My turn to play guinea pig.

Juls

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zenitb

USA
4 Posts

Posted - 06/07/2010 :  18:50:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have one successful plant going now and want to collect seeds from it. Can anyone explain how to do this? Thanks!
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Gabby

USA
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Posted - 06/07/2010 :  19:13:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zenitb

I have one successful plant going now and want to collect seeds from it. Can anyone explain how to do this? Thanks!



Put mature plant on a sheet. When seed pods form from the flowers, the pods will eject the seeds onto your drop cloth so you may collect them. Otherwise, you will have the little buggers all over the place!
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txhouston

USA
24 Posts

Posted - 06/11/2010 :  13:18:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am trying to obtain seeds. I am in Texas and have increasing problems with basal cells.
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Grace2Go

USA
64 Posts

Posted - 06/11/2010 :  17:27:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This seems to be the best place to order from:

http://www.beautanicals.com.au/Petty%20spurge.html




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Originally posted by txhouston

I am trying to obtain seeds. I am in Texas and have increasing problems with basal cells.

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txhouston

USA
24 Posts

Posted - 06/12/2010 :  20:10:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am in the process of obtaining some Petty Spurge seeds. It will be 6-8 weeks until I have grown plants it seems.

I was reading that Dandelion also works against warts as Petty Spurge was used in Europe. So today I tried some Dandelion on my BCC. Only 4 hours later I see an immediate change in the look of the BCC. I did not take a picture before the treatment but just took one. One spot has changed from red to a brown color and is starting a scab. It is spot that was burned with nitrogen by a dermatologist and had started to come back.

I recognize that I am experimenting with myself. I reason with all the dandelions that have been handled by children over the years that I cannot do too much damage.

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Grace2Go

USA
64 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2010 :  02:16:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How did you use the dandelion? Did you apply the sap from the stem, make a tea from stems, or something else?

Dandelion flower tops are good sauteed, and some people add the stems too. Or use the stems in salad, or boil them for tea. They have many good benefits, and it would be great if topical use for skin cancer is one of them.

Please keep us updated on your progress!


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Originally posted by txhouston

I am in the process of obtaining some Petty Spurge seeds. It will be 6-8 weeks until I have grown plants it seems.

I was reading that Dandelion also works against warts as Petty Spurge was used in Europe. So today I tried some Dandelion on my BCC. Only 4 hours later I see an immediate change in the look of the BCC. I did not take a picture before the treatment but just took one. One spot has changed from red to a brown color and is starting a scab. It is spot that was burned with nitrogen by a dermatologist and had started to come back.

I recognize that I am experimenting with myself. I reason with all the dandelions that have been handled by children over the years that I cannot do too much damage.



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txhouston

USA
24 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2010 :  07:48:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This morning the two I treated are both very dark, it is about 16 hours after first application. I believe this is blood. I did have a slight feeling in each of these last night almost a very very very slight burning sensation.

I applied the latex topically. I plucked a flower. Then I waited a bit for the sap to form atop the stem. Pluck the stem which is now a convenient applicator. The second applicator can be plucked from the same stem once it milks over.

I am not sure that I need to make a second application of the latex. Although I probably will.

I would guess from this experiment that there may be a large number of plants that will stop these cancers.

I am also thinking that there may be more to this than simply a topical application. In the past people at all sorts of plants as boiled or unboiled greens. Today we eat comparatively fewer species of plans, most only ones that taste great. Many plants were once or twice boiled with the water thrown out in between to remove poisons. It is possible that remaining poisons, or poisons from eating small amounts of raw greens, had some therapeutic effect. That is possibly eating small doses of compounds that vigorously destroy cancer cells is a way for nature to keep cancer in check within humans.
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txhouston

USA
24 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2010 :  07:58:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would caution that with advanced cancers it would seem if a person were to eat some of these compounds that any reaction could be violent as many many cells were destroyed within hours in my test. It could also cause internal bleeding as it appears tumor cells were destroyed leaving blood. While overall this would be a good thing it may create shock.

I would think that a person should only try consumption to stop advanced cancers under the overall supervision of a doctor, possibly in a medical setting (hospital). I would also suggest some advance evaluations in the area of blood clotting for individual patients may be warranted. If it works as fast as it did for me an overnight stay would be more than adequate after eating a dandelion salad.
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Grace2Go

USA
64 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2010 :  08:40:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This website has some great info about benefits of dandelion:

http://www.leaflady.org/health_benefits_of_dandelions.htm

Here are a couple of excerpts from there about dandelion benefits:
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"In 1979 a Japanese patent was filed for a freeze-dried warm water extract of dandelion root for anti-tumor use. It was found that administration of the extract markedly inhibited growth of particular carcinoma cells within one week after treatment;"

Another excerpt:

"There are many testimonials from those who have benefited from the use of dandelions in the treatment of what ailed them.

Robert Stickle, an internationally famous architect, was diagnosed as having a malignant melanoma 21 years ago, and was given, after radical surgery had not halted its spread, less than 2 years to live. He said, in a letter to Jeff Zullo, president of the Society for the Promotion of Dandelions, (June 23, 1986):

" I went on a search for the answer to my mortal problem, and [discovered] that perhaps it was a nutritional dilemma.... To me, cancer is primarily a liver failure manifestation. {Italians are very concerned about problems of the 'fegato']. [I discovered that] the cancer rate in native Italians is very low among the farming population (paesanos). When they get affluent and move to the city, its the same as the rest of civilized man. Paesanos eat dandelions, make brew from the roots, and are healthy, often living to over 100 years."

He states that he began eating dandelion salad every day, and his improvement confounded the doctors. When he wrote the letter in 1986, 18 years had passed and there had been no recurrence of the melanoma."
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I've used dandelion in the past for it's diuretic benefit, but it was several years ago. My grandmother used to cook the flower tops, and use the stems in salad or steep in hot water for tea. I never liked the taste of the greens, but the benefits outweigh the aversion to taste.



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Originally posted by txhouston

I would caution that with advanced cancers it would seem if a person were to eat some of these compounds that any reaction could be violent as many many cells were destroyed within hours in my test. It could also cause internal bleeding as it appears tumor cells were destroyed leaving blood. While overall this would be a good thing it may create shock.

I would think that a person should only try consumption to stop advanced cancers under the overall supervision of a doctor, possibly in a medical setting (hospital). I would also suggest some advance evaluations in the area of blood clotting for individual patients may be warranted. If it works as fast as it did for me an overnight stay would be more than adequate after eating a dandelion salad.


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txhouston

USA
24 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2010 :  08:59:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
After my experience with this and my recent study of nutrition that it is possible the 'cure' for cancer is one of too few natural 'poisons'. However this theory will not gain much research interest as there is little money to be made from recommending people to eat some sprigs of dandelion once diagnosed with breast cancer. Far more profitable to have $500,000 bills to pay.
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txhouston

USA
24 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2010 :  10:06:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am about 17 hours into this treatment. The 'scab' came off of one of these and I have a pink area. I think what has happened is that the latex attacked the topmost layers. I am not sure in this particular one the latex penetrated significantly down. It is the BCC that was prior burned off. So I am definitely going to apply more dandelion to this area.

It does seem the penetration was only superficial. So a reasonable concern is whether this is any type of cure or whether it is simply causing the tumor cells to bleed. If it is destroying tumor cells topically this would not be a bad thing but would do little to arrest spread.
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txhouston

USA
24 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2010 :  16:18:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am about 5 hours after the second application. So far I do not see evidence of dried blood. The scab this time is about the color of a dark freckle. Prior application the scab turned dark after first turning this dark freckle color.

I did deviate from protocol. Dandelions are difficult to find in Houston this time of year. I therefore put on some other latex weed substances, thistle and another common weed that looks like lettuce on a pole but has prickly spines on the end of the leaf. After the application of these other plants I located a source of supply for dandelions that is close to home so I can simply walk there every day and treat the BCC.

I rationalize that the scab that is forming, when not dark, is dead cells. Since these plant secretions do not cause this effect on healthy skin these must be attacking the BCC.
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txhouston

USA
24 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2010 :  22:18:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Now about 12 hours from second application. The primary location has a reddish brown color. It is not as dark as it was at equivalent time yesterday. The scab is is continuous and no flaking of skin like that I noticed when using Dr. prescribed pharmaceutical product on my lip. I am going to sleep and will report again after the AM.

I am still encouraged that some adverse reaction with the bad cells is going on. What I fear is that this reaction is not sufficiently aggressive to root out the cancer.
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txhouston

USA
24 Posts

Posted - 06/15/2010 :  13:50:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It has been three days now since first application. I just removed the second scab after shower.

The last two days I have been applying only dandelion. So at this writing the primary plant being used is dandelion.

I have not noticed any further bleeding after the first day.

It does seem that progress is being made. There is much less redness in the sites redness has shrunk to about 1/3 the diameter of the original redness. I can only think that the cancer is being disipated. There is not however a large amount of tissue that is flaking off. Much less in comparison to the area on my lip where I used chemotherapy to remove sun damage skin. so it seems that possibly there is less violent reaction than that reported with Petty Spurge. Who knows less violent reaction may indicate less violent side effects, but that is pure speculation.

I can't help but notice that this is helping with visible improvement after three days application. This rate of improvement is much faster than the chemotherapy which took a month to run it's course.

I am going to keep applying the dandelion until which time the redness dissipates. I still have petty spurge coming I intend to grow it and use it in these sites to see if the petty spurge 'finds' anything that the dandelion does not.

The latex is kinda sticky so I guess the latex on the surface blocks access of the new dandelion latex to the underlying cells. So I hope the new application will have a more significant reaction than I got earlier today.
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Grace2Go

USA
64 Posts

Posted - 06/15/2010 :  18:02:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the regular updates txhouston!

Usually dandelions are everywhere and aren't easy to get rid of, considered to be one of the peskiest weeds. Wouldn't you know it, that now that dandelions are very possibly a viable treatment for my aggravating BCC I can't find a single one!

I'm going on a trip to the midwest next week, and I think this is dandelion season there, so I'll try the sap while I'm there.


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Originally posted by txhouston

It has been three days now since first application. I just removed the second scab after shower.

The last two days I have been applying only dandelion. So at this writing the primary plant being used is dandelion.

I have not noticed any further bleeding after the first day.

It does seem that progress is being made. There is much less redness in the sites redness has shrunk to about 1/3 the diameter of the original redness. I can only think that the cancer is being disipated. There is not however a large amount of tissue that is flaking off. Much less in comparison to the area on my lip where I used chemotherapy to remove sun damage skin. so it seems that possibly there is less violent reaction than that reported with Petty Spurge. Who knows less violent reaction may indicate less violent side effects, but that is pure speculation.

I can't help but notice that this is helping with visible improvement after three days application. This rate of improvement is much faster than the chemotherapy which took a month to run it's course.

I am going to keep applying the dandelion until which time the redness dissipates. I still have petty spurge coming I intend to grow it and use it in these sites to see if the petty spurge 'finds' anything that the dandelion does not.

The latex is kinda sticky so I guess the latex on the surface blocks access of the new dandelion latex to the underlying cells. So I hope the new application will have a more significant reaction than I got earlier today.

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lonewolf1218

USA
5 Posts

Posted - 06/16/2010 :  02:08:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
New o the forums.I was wondering since I live in south florida.I have severes cancers also,all basal cells ,and sqaumous cells.I am ordering the seeds from the site from here in australia.Since the weather is very hot here should I try and grow the plants outside or indoors from my window seal?I have to try other forms of treatment.Tired of getting so many surgeries and they keep coming back.Any help on how to grow them in south florida.
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