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georgeallan

1 Posts

Posted - 08/03/2013 :  13:41:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Skin Cancer is one of the most common types of cancer with about one in five Americans being affected each year. The incidence of the cancer of the skin has been recorded to have risen over the years with the increase in the level of risk factor and carcinogens in the environment. Though there are three common form of skin cancer; the Basal cell carcinoma, Squamous cell carcinoma and Melanoma, the first two are not very serious and can be treated and cured easily.

[url=http://www.naturasil.com/scabies-treatment/]home remedies for scabies[/url]
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trueson

44 Posts

Posted - 08/07/2013 :  07:05:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Crazyashelllol

Yeah, the scab / rash that appeared MUST be cancer. It's in no way a result of the crazy **** you've put on your face.

Lolwow.


I don't know if you've read the whole thread or not but I would say most of us here test a remedy on healthy skin first so we know we aren't allergic to it and also to see the effect on healthy skin. I know I do this with everything I try. You don't want healthy skin to be effected in the process of killing the cancer.

The attractive thing about these remedies is that, unlike most of the medical topical treatments, they are selective in their effect and specifically target cancer cells. We wouldn't use them if they didn't. The best way to demonstrate the truth of this is to do a test on your own healthy skin and let us know the results.
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Dave2001

23 Posts

Posted - 08/24/2013 :  15:56:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by trueson

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I would say most of us here test a remedy on healthy skin first so we know we aren't allergic to it and also to see the effect on healthy skin. I know I do this with everything I try. You don't want healthy skin to be effected in the process of killing the cancer.

The attractive thing about these remedies is that, unlike most of the medical topical treatments, they are selective in their effect and specifically target cancer cells. We wouldn't use them if they didn't. The best way to demonstrate the truth of this is to do a test on your own healthy skin and let us know the results.



Trueson, thank you very much for sharing your experience on the forum. It is revealing and help other to learn a bit more about natural remedy Petty Spurge.
I hope you'll heal eyelid this time successfully and your example is so good to show that persistence is as important.

If you go for a longer treatment how you'll know it is enough long or not too long?
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trueson

44 Posts

Posted - 08/27/2013 :  08:02:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for your kind words Dave2001. The length of treatment is really just trial and error. If applying sap for 3 days doesn't work then one can try 5 days, let it heal for a time and reassess the situation. I would just increase by a small amount each time then let it heal and decide if you want to do more.

Unfortunately PS has not helped my BCC even with extended treatment of 10 days. I suspect I have an unusual type of BCC which is impervious to PS and everything else I have tried. I am now on Homeopathics and Mistletoe injections and I seem to be getting some reaction in the BCC but it is a bit too early to be sure. I will post again if I have any success with these methods.
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ACfree

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Posted - 09/18/2013 :  18:26:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Jilly,

I read your post about your kind offer of sending seeds. I've had severe Actinic Cheilitis for years and tried everything to no avail. I'd really appreciate if you can share seeds and/or sap. I'll be happy to pitch in for your effort and time. Thanks!

No unfortunately he didn't and in fact he said that while the trials were successful he wouldn't recommend that I go pluck a plant and use the sap. I did not cover with a bandaid but maybe I should have. My scab formed immediately upon application and I too most likely had a nodular BCC. I do have the three types written down somewhere so I'll try to find them and post in addition to the photo of my current state. Cheers.

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Originally posted by BBirdz

Jilly-Thanks for clarifying. Did the doctor you met tell you anything about how to use the PS? When I used the sap I covered it with a bandaid so a scab wouldn't form which I don't think they did in the peplin trials. I did have an open pit form where the nodule had been but by the next morning it had filled in with white. I wonder now if that was the core of the cancer I was seeing.
Do you know the names of the types of cancer that don't respond? I thought they were mostly testing it on superficial basal cell. The one I have is most likely nodular.

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Originally posted by Jilly

Hi there,

Yes I meant my 3rd round. Each round I waited until the skin healed enough before starting, that is now open wound or scabbing. I kept retreating because even though the external part of the tumor fell off, it is still there underneath the skin. I can see it, its white and is directly under where the external part fell off. My skin is now healed again and I see that unfortunately it is still there. I was told that there are three types of carcinomas that require MOHS, where nothing will work. The Dr. who told me this happened to run part of the Australian trials of Peplin. As I haven't had a biopsy yet of the tumor I don't know for sure which one i have. I just know its still there underneath. I did the applications once a day for three days. I tried this last 3rd time to sleep with it one night. I stop usually when I see the area become extremely inflamed. (immune response maybe) I'll post photos tomorrow. Hope that answers your questions.
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Originally posted by BBirdz

Jilly-
When you say you are starting your third application do you mean of your second treatment round or is this actually a third round of treating the same spot? I had to delay re-treatment as I got sick and didn't want to treat when my immunity was low. I am wondering how your retreatment has been going,how many applications you did the second time around and how you are determining the need to treat a third time (if this is your third round) Thanks and wishing you all the best with your treatment!






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ACfree

3 Posts

Posted - 09/18/2013 :  18:35:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Jilly,

I hope you are in good health and spirit! Are you by any chance still offering to share your seeds/sap? I've had severe actinic Cheilits for years and have tried so many things to no avail. I'd really appreciate your kindness.
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Wisconsin guy

5 Posts

Posted - 09/21/2013 :  06:16:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi, new to posting here but have been lurking for awhile. Its my 1st treatment on a BC with PS sap on a spot on my arm that was froze by a derm. about 10 years ago, this spot for the last 2 years has been either bleeding or scabed over. I am not new to skin cancer, ive gone under the knife 7 times and have had spots froze alot of times. Get this, the last time I had 4 spots froze each one was considerd as a surgery and was charged $1200 per spot and they all came back. 2 years ago I went in and had a BC surgery and now have a 3" scar and had a $4000 dollar bill. At that time I was told I had over 30 some skin cancers on my back and other areas and now some are getting worse so I decided to look into self treatment and thats how I found this forum. I first thought I would use bloodroot, went out in our woods this spring and dug some bloodroot and made a batch of black salve, while reading here the petty spurge seemed to be a better starting point than going black salve right away. I orderd some seeds and now my PS plants are 2 1/2 months old and prod

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60.73 KBuce alot of sap, they have been grown in a basement window. I put sap on for 3 days, one day off and then 3 more days of sap(one drop a day). I will say that the sap made me feel like when Ive been stung by bees, not the pain of the sting but the way my body felt overall. I stopped putting sap on after day 6 because day 7 I was feeling alittle run down and the spot was sore. Im not sure the sap will get this cancers root, it seems to be deep, in pic 6 and 7 you can see in the hole what apears to be a root. I will post updated pics and reports as I see changes. Thanks for all the info here.
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Dave2001

23 Posts

Posted - 09/21/2013 :  15:55:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you Wisconsin guy for sharing.
Please keep us posted with updates.
PS would be my choice if available, I couldn't find it and decided to try Curaderm on BCC.
Seems that both are excellent remedies, PS being (my impression) a bit more active and penetrating, as result eventually faster.
Also, seems that each cancer is individual so if one remedy doesn't work as expected there is a good chance that other one may help.
Anyway, my experience with Curaderm and BCC was excellent (in terms of how predictable a cure course developed with healing result that came out as expected).
I wish you great results with petty spurge.
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clearlake

25 Posts

Posted - 09/24/2013 :  15:17:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for sharing the photos. That looks like the PS cleared out that crater! Should heal up nicely.
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Wisconsin guy

5 Posts

Posted - 09/24/2013 :  19:16:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
update, this pic is day 12 , starting to close in but still going deeper. Thanks 4 the replys.

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clearlake

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Posted - 09/25/2013 :  15:32:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wisconsin guy, did you continue to apply the PS after day 6 (curious since you are saying the PS is still digging deeper). Also, great photos, what kind of camera did you use?
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Wisconsin guy

5 Posts

Posted - 09/25/2013 :  19:18:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just put it on the 6 times, the deeper hole seems to be draining around the edges of the root and going deeper. I am thinking about doing another day or 2 because the root looks strong or healthy yet. The camera is just a old kodak with close up option, I crop and fix the pics on the computer the best i can.
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Wisconsin guy

5 Posts

Posted - 10/03/2013 :  08:47:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Today is 21 days since my 1st treatment of p.s. on my arm, I have not put any on since day 7 and im happy with the way it has healed so far. I did put some p.s. sap on a spot on my chest and applied for 3 days. With the 1st treatment I could tell it was working on that spot, before I applird on day 3 it was raised and swollen with a area about the size of a golf ball red and rash looking. Day 4 the sap had the target spot raised and swollen with a few other spots that were in that golf ball sized area raised and swollen also which showed me there was more there than just that targeted area (target area was the size of pea). The spot on my chest is on day7 and is scabed and looking better every day. Its sad to see my plants are seeding now, but I do have some new started and getting bigger everyday so I should be able to treat the many more skin cancers I have. Pic is day 21 of my arm.

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anivoc

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Posted - 10/03/2013 :  09:43:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wisconsin..

Congrats on your success so far..got to bug you to remember to document with pictures....The old POIDH "pictures or it didn't happen" Talk is cheap but pictures are proof of the pudding..or lack thereof ;)

Pictures provide assurance....

One thing that I am curious about with petty spurge is if some people might ...like with poison ivy or oak, have a allergic reaction "anywhere" they put it..

I tried it on a undamaged area as I did with bloodroot paste and it had no effect on healthy skin... That said I one of the lucky ones who is also not affected by poison oak...

I encourage you to do the same...just to make sure..

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Wisconsin guy

5 Posts

Posted - 10/03/2013 :  10:38:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I tested it on myself on an un-effected area (where your arm bends oppisite the elbow)wher the skin is tender, got just a slight redness that faded in a day. The ivy's tear me up, logger for many years and always had poision ivy some place.
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clearlake

25 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2013 :  15:40:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wisconsin Guy you should be pleased. Healing is going so well. Thanks for sharing the photos. You're like a textbook case for PS. Even if the Basel Cell comes back a little in the future, you could always hit it again.
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Wisconsin guy

5 Posts

Posted - 10/10/2013 :  08:26:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Today is 28 days from the 1st drop of P.S. sap on my arm and its looking better than it has for 2 years. I go next week to my doc for my yearly check up and will tell him about useing the sap, he has had BCC surgery on his face and the scare is nasty. The spot on my chest is clearing up nice also, im happy I tried this treatment and will be useing it on many more. Pic of my arm 29 days in.

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clearlake

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Posted - 10/11/2013 :  11:01:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looks very nice Michigan Guy. Soon will be invisible! Inspiring case. If there were a textbook written about Petty Spurge, which of course there hasn't been (yet), your case would have to be in itI I want to do some spots on my face, but dreading facing people looking terrible . . .
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Wisconsin guy

5 Posts

Posted - 11/01/2013 :  06:36:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is an updated pic of bcc spot on my arm at 50 days, it does not feel like there is any mass/hard spot there anymore. I am a week or 2 from my next go with P.S. sap, new plants are around 5" tall now. I did get alot of seeds from the old ones and re-seeded them self also.

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emilios

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Posted - 01/06/2014 :  03:04:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Guys

First time poster here.

I have read all the posts to date and am quite interested in this plant.

Bit of a background on me and why I am interested:
I have had a melanoma removed from my lower back. The melanoma I had removed was 1 mm deep and was thankfully removed in the initial biopsy, i.e. had not cleared the margins of the cut (a 6mm semi circular crater is the best way I can describe it). I had a further 'wider excision' where the surgeon simply removed some more skin around the area for precautionary measures.

I go back to my surgeon every 6 months for a checkup on any suspect moles. (can the PS be simply applied to a mole, if so would that not simply remove the mole and hide any risk of it been a melanoma?)

I'm very interested in this plant for any future issues I may have. I don't have any BCC or SCC, my skin is in quite good condition, I guess its all the Olive oil I ate in my Greek upbringing. I have just had that 1-off melanoma removed 2 years ago.

I guess what I am asking is:
1.If there is anything I can use this plant for in my situation as it appears a lot of people are using it for SCC add BCC.
2. Do I randomly apply it to some normal looking moles to see?

Thanks for all this information, it’s great to see.
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susan

7 Posts

Posted - 01/31/2014 :  06:44:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Can excess plants be blended into a soup and stored in the freezer? Has anyone tried this?
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vlynn

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Posted - 03/21/2014 :  10:30:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello Anivoc,
I've been following your posts on topical info, and may i just say Thanks!! for all your feedback and info. I just now came across your post that you'd seen ps growing in Encinitas, and that's where I am!! The funniest story.. I'd been up till 3am reading thread after thread,at last coming across the petty spurge info. I've been doing a vit C with DMSO past for about 9 weeks now; it has set the lesions back, but I have one I'm concerned about and decided to do more investigating. Thinking- I have to find this plant! I ordered some seeds from the AU site, but upon gazing at all the photos of ps, and looking at the map of where it grows, I realized it's probably around here somewhere. Then showed photos to my roommate, who said 'I think it's growing on the back patio!' Sure enough, we took a flashlight (nighttime) and there it was. The little weed we've been routinely pulling out. So what I've got are a few scrubbly little plants growing in the cracks of concrete blocks, but I intend to water and spread some light feed around and see if they can grow more. In the meantime, I will look for more, larger and robust plants.
I have several spots that have emerged over the last few years. Have been cut into plenty at a cost of about 2,000 each time. Sent me into bankruptcy, basically. Grew up here on the beaches of Encinitas, a red-haired kid who burned a lot, but brown eyes pigmented my skin enough to get a golden tan. Spent sooo much time in sun, now payin' for it. I will document my self treatment to post on this site, and do the best I can with photos because I know what a valuable service this is! Again, many thanks to you Anivoc. Advice and pointers to the precious plant greatly appreciated! - Vlynn
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Tom I am finding this stuff growing all over the San Gabriel Valley and saw some down in Encinitas last week. I had several nice ones growing in a patch behind my garage but too direct exposure to sun so summer killed them..

Yesterday I was across the street talking to my neighbor and there several growing in his front yard planter.

Point being for us here in Cali the gettin is good all over the place.

To date only the sap has been used as a treatment..I am curious/ suspect there may be other ways to get the active ingredient out of the plant.. certainly if the plant dies the active ingredient is still in the plant...( maybe the ingredient becomes ineffective by I doubt it) just my thoughts on it. I have a dozen or so dried up plants in the back yard to experiment with...

At this time I am trying a few other protocols ( vitamin c) ( the caffeine and red clover mix that a poster spoke of having remakable results with)...for me...so far.. not near the good results of petty spurge or blood root paste

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svanip

18 Posts

Posted - 03/28/2014 :  01:10:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Hi to all just another update after a few years on now post the treatment

Here is the image of the area


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Originally posted by Grace2Go

Your bcc area looks great svanip! Thanks for posting the regular pictures of your progress.

My 3 little plants are growing very slowly, but as soon as one is big enough I'll be starting the sap treatment on my bcc.




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Originally posted by svanip

Hi just thought I would put into action a live treatment for your information if anyone would like to see the results....

So far - 24th of March 2010 - I went for a Skin Check with my local GP I pointed out a legion I was concerned about "not seen by Dr" - A Shave biopsy taken following day of a 7 x 4 mm legion on Upper Left Lip region....

9 Days Pass
Biopsy / Histology result was of a multifocal superficial BCC..

GP referred to plastic surgeon for surgical removal - surgeon not available to see me 12 weeks.....

After much deliberation and investigation I decided to try Petty Spurge treatment - it pretty much grows in every garden as a pest weed here......

6 April Image shows – Start "2 weeks post shave biopsy" - Then the following morning after initial application of the Milk/Sap.

Euphorbia Peplus - Petty Spurge - Radium Weed - Cancer Weed

SEEDS - try here www.beautanicals.com.au ( Service was very good )

WARNINGS:
This substance contains known carcinogens.... Try it at your own risk !!!

You may need to copy and paste this link.....

www.wildflowerfinder.org.uk/Flowers/S/Spurge" target="_blank">http://www.wildflowerfinder.org.uk/Flowers/S/Spurge(Petty)/Spurge(Petty).htm

Treatment:
What does the active ingredient do:

Basically the Sap starts to kill the Cancer Cells (Cell Necrosis) within hours of the application then the active components in the sap induce a secondary inflammatory response at the site of the application within 24-48 Hrs, which in turn generates tumor-specific antibodies to hopefully get rid of the balance of the nasty cells.... Something like that anyway - in very simple terms....

My treatment plan 12 Days twice a day application.....

Pre Treatment Image - 2 Weeks Post BCC Shave Biopsy

Me: svanip@hotmail.com

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First Day of Treatment !

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Day 2 approx 36 Hrs Post Euphorbia Peplus Sap/Latex Application - it is growing

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Day 2 Afternoon Update - Its drying out and not stinging so much.....

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Day Six - Morning Image - sorry re the lack of weekend images. It was a very painful weekend but not unbearable - the scab had completely covered the inflamed areas and came off on several occasions. I do quite a bit of sport - ie cycling and swimming so with the sweating and being in the water for several hours the area was scab free. The area seems to have stopped growing and feels like it is calming down somewhat ie: less pain and less blistering scabbing etc -I am opting for a review after the 12 Day x twice a day application period which is a little more than most I have read about online using Euphorbia Peplus raw sap only - I will continue to apply until the scabbing has been resolved then rest and recovery. I do not wash the sap off and I have not covered the area -unless showering etc then I re apply and let it dry on the treatment area - The amount of sap I use is quite small - a tiny drop - maybe the size of a pin head or two. This seems to be an ample quantity to soak into the treatment area - the sap is quite watery and not very viscous - it flows very willingly and spreads out over the area rapidly - the activity of the sap appears to radiate out and around the original treatment area without any need to cover it completely be careful this is a very strong substance indeed - as you can see from the images. I noted that several people had stated the the treatment was not painful - well on the face it is quite painful and it burns for several hours, if you can imagine a mild acid or caustic burn - that is what it is similar too - for me anyway.... enjoy

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Day 6 of treatment....

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Day 7 Images - The area appears to be healing and feeling OK the scabbing is very thick and firm now - the treatment area has some skin flaking around the margin - I am still applying the raw sap to the top of the scab after showering etc - it is still burning, so I guess the treatment is still working......

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This afternoons shot of the crusty demon - was a mild burning sensation all day "as usual" no great change today !

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Morning of Day 8 - Feeling similar scab is quite thick still some mild stinging after application of raw sap - not unbearable though.


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Afternoon Day 8 - Its Itchy and annoying !


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Morning Day 9 went for a hard twilight bike ride last night a lot of sweating etc - so in the middle of the scab the dark area is a crater about 3mm deep which obviously washed out with the fluids. this was the location of the original BCC Site - Ewwwwww Gross .....


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Afternoon Day 9 - Not much to report - its very crusty itchy and annoying - the scab is huge and very thick, you cant see it on the image really...


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Morning Day 10 - Went for a 2K swim last night - scab is still mainly intact due to attached beard I think - not much change to the area, it is tender and a little itchy quite a bit of new pink skin is visible - I use a prescription antibacterial cream called Bactroban 2% at night over the entire area - want to minimize any secondary infection after swimming etc.

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Afternoon Day 10 - Feeling OK at the moment not much pain at all today, scab is shrinking "with help" if it wasn't in such a prominent position you would barley know it was there


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Morning Day 13 after some sporting activities and shaving the large scabs came of with a smaller center piece from the original BCC site still remains... have stopped the application of the raw sap and am covering the area with Bactroban 2% to aid in healing the area... lets hope that the BCC is dead and gone !!!


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Afternoon Day 13

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Day 14 Scab came off and left area visible......Second image is a close up shot - not sure if the BCC is gone or still alive.....


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Morning Day 15 Healing well.....
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Day 15 afternoon image

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Day 16 Morning Image (Vitamin E used over night)


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sumnerburstyn

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Posted - 03/28/2014 :  06:44:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thank you for this. So appreciate it. Amazing how similar my own treatments for SCC's look.
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anivoc

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Posted - 03/30/2014 :  07:55:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Fantastic pics Svanip! Thank you for sharing these!
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Wisconsin guy

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Posted - 04/03/2014 :  07:53:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Its been awhile since I posted so here is a update. The spot I treated on my arm needed to be hit again in 1 tiny spot where I thought was a deep root, the skin in that treatment area does not look like normal skin but like a scar from a bad burn. I would like to give a tip on what I found about P.S. sap, I found if the plants do not have red stems (red in the stem) the sap is weak.I had a fresh bunch of plants growing over the winter and they kinda stuggled and never got that red in the stems and the sap was not worth useing. Another thing I found is after my 1st plants seeded in the fall I cut them back to within a inch of the soil (in a pot)and gave the a small amount of water weekly and a couple months later I was seeing new growth and now are about 10 inchs tall with bright red stems and very strong sap. I have used this sap on a couples spots and found it really would attack the area, it would swell up and be more painfull than I have noticed before but seems to be killing the BCC. So try cutting your plants back and see what happens you might get the best P.S. plants you ever had without planting more seed.
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srains99

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Posted - 04/08/2014 :  10:06:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I joined just because I came across this old thread that had recent updates. My story echos many of yours. I ordered the seeds mentioned on the site but wanted to know if live plants are available?

My condition was diagnosed this week though I had a feeling that it was BCC based upon researching my condition. One BBC on the cheek. Of course my Dermatologist highly recommends Mohs surgery which he says will leave a 2 inch scar. What disturbs me is the strong desire just to perform an expensive surgery without even trying other, less invasion solutions. Thanks for anyone who can help.
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sumnerburstyn

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Posted - 04/08/2014 :  13:09:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just took one from my cheek with petty spurge. It took 8 days and I had a nasty red blister for a couple of days. Now 10 days later my cheek is smooth and perfect again. No sign of the bcc. At least try it as a first call. I pick my petty spurge on roadsides however I live on an island with my spray policy so can pick with confidence. Good luck.
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Wisconsin guy

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Posted - 04/09/2014 :  14:05:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have had surgery on skin cancer 4 times and 3 of those times they did not get it all with the 1st cutting. My concern with not getting it all is how many cancer cells got in my blood stream, is this why I have so many now? The last surgery I had they got it all,the spot was about the size of a nickel and the scare I have is 3 inches long. Every one needs to decide if surgery is right for them or go other routes. I will say I will never have them freeze (liquid nitrogen spray) another because every one I have had done came back and worse. jmo
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Brigid

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Posted - 04/09/2014 :  15:18:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by srains99

I joined just because I came across this old thread that had recent updates. My story echos many of yours. I ordered the seeds mentioned on the site but wanted to know if live plants are available?

My condition was diagnosed this week though I had a feeling that it was BCC based upon researching my condition. One BBC on the cheek. Of course my Dermatologist highly recommends Mohs surgery which he says will leave a 2 inch scar. What disturbs me is the strong desire just to perform an expensive surgery without even trying other, less invasion solutions. Thanks for anyone who can help.

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Brigid

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Posted - 04/09/2014 :  15:24:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Srains,

There's a lot of information on the petty spurge part of the site. When I first joined, I read every thread. That was a while ago so there are more now, but it was worth the time. Getting informed is important. I also learned a lot from reading the introduction or general info about skin cancer that's posted under Skin Cancer Topical Treatments. I wish I'd known when I first joined that surgery isn't the only way to go, and collectively we have a lot of experience and information on this website. Take it slow, take a breath and hang in.



quote:
Originally posted by Brigid

quote:
Originally posted by srains99

I joined just because I came across this old thread that had recent updates. My story echos many of yours. I ordered the seeds mentioned on the site but wanted to know if live plants are available?

My condition was diagnosed this week though I had a feeling that it was BCC based upon researching my condition. One BBC on the cheek. Of course my Dermatologist highly recommends Mohs surgery which he says will leave a 2 inch scar. What disturbs me is the strong desire just to perform an expensive surgery without even trying other, less invasion solutions. Thanks for anyone who can help.



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srains99

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Posted - 04/10/2014 :  08:39:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the responses. I ordered the seeds and will continue to research. I have still not found someone in the United States that sells the plants.
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willwill

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Posted - 04/10/2014 :  13:50:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Once again, I have plants and will give them to anyone who wants them. I live in the New York area.
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srains99

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Posted - 04/10/2014 :  14:56:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Awesome, thanks so much. I work in white plains, ny. I will send you a message
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susan

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Posted - 04/11/2014 :  05:06:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've been a fan/follower of this website for years now. I have experience with cymillium, raspberry, bloodroot,.... But never the E.peplus because i've tried many times for several years to grow them unsuccessfully. I live in South Texas. Miracle of miracles!!!! I have sprouted several seeds and one is almost of size to use. April in Texas means the plants which are growing outside, are not long for this world.
I've been scouring old posts for what I thought was someone who froze masserated plants. I would like to try this as well as the tincture. Does anyone remember this post?
Thanks, Susan
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srains99

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Posted - 05/21/2014 :  07:12:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Petty spurge worked like a charm. I cannot believe it. Saved me from a 2 inch scar on my face from Mohs surgery. Thanks Will for the plant, package will be sent this week to you. Thanks again
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willwill

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Posted - 05/21/2014 :  17:57:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Glad to help. The spot where I planted them last year has thousands of seedlings. If anyone else would like plants please contact me.
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judo

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Posted - 05/21/2014 :  23:16:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Does anyone know if I should continue treating an AK once the scan has fallen off? It appeared early this year in the spot where I'd managed to cut my head afew years back, so on an old scar. After a few weeks of treating 2-3 times a day with apple cider vinegar the scab fell off, it looked much better but I continued to treat it each day, it now looks as though it might scab again, any ideas, should I continue or stop?

Many thanks.
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gloe

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Posted - 06/16/2014 :  11:26:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm joining the crowd of PS fans. I was scared to start using it, but too scared not to.

I have my thread DMSO+combos, and maybe after many more months, the DMSO+IP6 will do the trick, but my face looks bad and seems to be getting worse. In the sense that the sores have more of a tendency to bleed or ooze, whereas earlier, they would not do so.

I ordered the PS Seeds from the Australia site, 2 packs, a few months ago. I planted one pack into 2 pots. Funny thing, the 2 pots have the same dirt, the same water, the same light, but one is thriving and one not so. Still even in the thriving pot, the plants are very small.

This morning I decided to basically cut off the top of one of the small plants. I got a bit of sap and applied it to the 3 lesions (very close together) on the side of my nose. Then I took 2 leaves, pierced them and just stuck them on the area. After a couple of hours, I could feel "something happening." I also started feeling "systemic effects" like I was so exhausted, I almost fell asleep.

Now about 6 hours later, the area around the leaves is red and there is some swelling. It isn't terribly painful, more an annoying slight burn. Like a sunburn. Having been through the ascorbic acid paste, this is nothing so far.

I plan to keep the leaves on till tonight then take them off, and maybe rinse my face.

Several weeks ago, when pinching the plants back, I got some of the sap and put it on the inside of my wrist, and on the inside of my elbow. I got no reaction at all, not even any redness, so I know I'm not allergic to the PS.

Onward and upward.

Thanks everyone who posted their experiences and instructions about how to grow and use PS.

Edited by - gloe on 06/16/2014 11:28:53
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gloe

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Posted - 06/17/2014 :  08:26:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I rinsed off last night, about 12 hours after application. I was up and reapplied at 4:00 a.m. this morning. Same scenario: cut off a big part of 2 plants, put the sap on and pierced 2 leaves and covered the sores with the two leaves. The leaves stick to my face. I cut up the stems and unused leaves and put them in some distilled H2O in a glass jar in the fridge. It's now more than 8 hours since application, and the area doesn't hurt as much as yesterday; there's not as much red peaking out from around the leaves.

I am packing and going thru stuff because I am moving in a week, so I am really sweaty. The sores are oozing yellowish stuff through the leaves. Later I'll take a shower and apply an anti-infective topical, maybe Medihoney.
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judo

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Posted - 06/19/2014 :  08:26:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have read most people's success stories on here but still a little unclear on one thing, after applying PS once a day for 3-4 days and the scab appearing, should I just wait for it to fall off and then do it all over again? If so, how many times should I do it or allow it to scab?
Thanks in advance
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srains99

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Posted - 06/19/2014 :  09:27:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I applied it for 10 days or so and just let the scab fall off. It started to itch when it was almost done healing. One of these days I will post pictures but it looked much worse (scabbing) days 5-8. My BBC site was about 8mm and was pretty deep. After the scab fell off and a month went by, the wound had closed but I had a small bump so I treated it again for a week. After that healed, it looks great. Much better than a 2 inch Mohs scar would look. Cannot wait to go back to my derm to show him
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gloe

127 Posts

Posted - 06/19/2014 :  16:11:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm on day 4 and intend to keep going. Same procedure: Wash in the morning, apply sap then pierced leaves on top of the sap. Wash in the evening then apply an anti-infective topical. I clean the area with H2O2 after washing and before applying anything else.

I think applying the leaves is keeping it moist so it is not scabbing. I have alot of oozing gunk. The area did not bleed after washing this evening, but it did bleed this morning and the past 2 days (since day 2). It is amazing that with open sores like this applying the sap and leaves is not painful. It sort of hurts later as the PS gets to work. Day 2 was the worst day as far as pain, so far.

Some people say to treat for 14 days. Others say treat until it stops reacting and starts healing. I intend to play it by ear, but most likely will not go beyond 14 days.
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judo

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Posted - 06/20/2014 :  23:35:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks to all, day 4 today, some of the skin has flaked off on the bcc site so as I have lots of plants growing wild in my garden (north Essex uk) I will just keep going until it stops reacting. Mines a bit sore (on my neck so shirt collars rub a little) but nothing I can't ignore especially considering the potential benefits.
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gloe

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Posted - 06/21/2014 :  00:42:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Day 6. What was 3 distinct small sores is now a large bloody mess on the side of my nose. More bleeding this a.m. on the upper part going into the top of my nose. No leaves, just sap for the past 2 days.

Yesterday I felt very sick and was getting a bad headache. The area hurt quite a bit. Having had wounds before that I was afraid were infected, I followed the same procedure: I ate lots of raw garlic (don't chew; just cut up into tiny pieces and wash down with water) and took massive doses of ARG/Nutricology Thymus glandular. 10 caps 3 times over the day. I felt much better after the first dose.
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Nanoagain

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Posted - 06/21/2014 :  05:44:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Gloe, that reminds me of when I was using vit c on my modular BCC--I was sick as a dog on and off during the treatment. Perhaps it is a result of the dying cancer cells being cleared from the body? Anyway, sounds like you are making progress!
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gloe

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Posted - 06/21/2014 :  11:51:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Nanoagain

Gloe, that reminds me of when I was using vit c on my modular BCC--I was sick as a dog on and off during the treatment. Perhaps it is a result of the dying cancer cells being cleared from the body? Anyway, sounds like you are making progress!



Well, something is definitely happening!

5 hours after applying the sap, I applied Medihoney. I'm just going to leave it like that till the morning.


Edited by - gloe on 06/21/2014 11:52:25
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srains99

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Posted - 06/21/2014 :  12:21:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I never felt sick but it did bleed and form a real scab. It also hurt for a few hours after I applied the sap. I did not get the white/yellow scab you see in pictures but the kind of scab you get from a wound that bleeds. I hope you have the sane luck with the treatment as I did.
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gloe

127 Posts

Posted - 06/22/2014 :  08:50:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by srains99

I never felt sick but it did bleed and form a real scab. It also hurt for a few hours after I applied the sap. I did not get the white/yellow scab you see in pictures but the kind of scab you get from a wound that bleeds. I hope you have the sane luck with the treatment as I did.



I'm not really getting the white/yellow kind of scab either. Though this a.m. when I washed the gunk off (dried blood and yellowish gunk) there was left behind a thinish looking yellowish "scab." Not really a scab and I could have easily rubbed it off, but I decided to let it be.

Day 7, applied sap and no leaves. Will apply Medihoney later and leave it on til tomorrow morning, as I did yesterday. It doesn't really hurt anymore. Feels kind of irritated.
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