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Stan Rubin
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 Posted - 10/21/2008 : 15:42:36
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I'm Stan Rubin, the inventor of Cymilium. I head R&D at St. James-Gray Medical Research Laboratories Ltd.
Cymilium is used effectively and successfully by many, many people to treat malignant skin lesions including squamous cell and basal cell carcinoma. With equal effectiveness Cymilium has been used by others to treat other skin conditions.
For those unaware of Cymilium our website is www.cymilium.com
I guess the best way for me to personally answer any questions would be by others pisting inquiries here.
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anivoc
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Posted - 10/22/2008 : 01:53:17
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Hi Stan,
Hi Stan I spoke to one of your sales reps several months ago and suggested to him then that it would be great to have you check out this site. Glad you were able to find us and are willing to participate.
Dan ( owner of this site ) has used and endorses Cymilium as part of a regime to overcome non melanoma skin cancers. I have tried it and did not have the same success.
Based upon people that have had success and reported back to you, I would really like to get your opinion / suggested protocol to use cymilium to treat skin cancers.
Just a suggestion.. One thing that could help is offering the cymilium in a bulk dispenser rather than the tiny packages you use to sell it. Certainly for bug bites the tidy little packets are perfect. For daily use treating skin cancers it would seem practical to sell it in a air tight dispenser of some sort that would dispense small dabs at a time yet keep the rest of the material inside fresh. |
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Stan Rubin
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Posted - 10/22/2008 : 11:17:26
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To Anivoc,
It's satisfying to me personally to discover that this site's owner successfully used Cymilium to treat carcinoma. It's startling to see how many times cancerous lesions have been successfully treated with Cymilium...many tell us about it, but not all write us.
About the packaging- in your conversation with a rep of ours he must have talked about our packaging, i.e., the foil pouches. Two key ingredients are weakened when repeatedly exposed to oxygen, therefore the sealed throw-away pouches. It's hard to tell what % of Cymilium sales is for skin cancer use. Possibly as much as 25%, or more. Creating a 2-tiered packaging system can be costly beyond the imagination of any consumer. But it can be done. 'Marketing' will someday make a choice.
I will return later today to post the best regimen to use Cymilium(also available at www.cymilium.com - 'Skin Cancer' button).
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dan
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Posted - 10/23/2008 : 01:11:39
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Hi Stan,
Welcome to the forum! First, I owe you a big thank you for Cymilium. It saved me from a certain surgery on a lesion on my forehead several years ago, diagnosed by a dermatologist as a squamous cell carcinoma. A few days before the appointment I began applying Cymilium. By the time I saw the dermatologist I saw enough healing progress to decline the proposed biopsy/ removal. The lesion healed completely in about eight weeks and the area is fine to this day.
I did not have a good reason at the time to try Cymilium on a skin cancer lesion. It was a shot in the dark (or an answer to my prayers). So I Googled the ingredients and found the pancreatin enzyme cancer treatment practice of Dr. William Donald Kelley (now deceased). The guy sounded crazy initially but my personal experience with Cymilium told me he was not. Although I am fascinated by cancer research, what an unfruitful path modern cancer treatment has chosen over the past forty years compared to Kelley's methods.
Anyway, I know Cymilium works on skin cancers for at least some people some of the time. I really appreciate you joining us here and I hope you don't mind a few questions. Do you have any guesses about how often Cymilium is effective? Is it possible Cymilium is more effective on squamous cell cancers than basal cell cancers? Do you agree the active ingredient is probably pancreatin enzymes, or is there another mechanism I may have missed?
Thanks for a great product. It also works as advertised on bug bites! |
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sunvarmit
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Posted - 10/25/2008 : 10:53:19
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Hey. i treid the cymilium and it completely got rid of my squamous.
My strategy was to carry one packet in my car and keep one in the bathroom. i cleaned the spot with apple cider vinegar, or a few times fresh lemon juice. I think it was just the acid. But it is important to note any variations. Replicate it to be sure. It took about a month, slightly more. My wife got worried and wanted me to go have the spot removed. But finally she saw the treatment working. It made the spot much worse looking before it went away. And it stung toward the end. But it was well worth it.
Another thing I would do is do two applications when in the car. Since I didn't have any ACV.or lemon juice. The second dose would sting. The first dose in this case must have been opening up the skin, like the ACV. or lemon juice.
I recommend this treatment strongly. I caught mine early. It was coming up near a scar i had already gotten on my right cheek, from my first squamous, and a blade happy doctor. This latest spot is just completely gone and left NO sign of it's passing. I'll keep you updated if there is any change. Or WHEN I get my next one. (I'm pretty fair skinned.)
It's great to know I have some options next time. And I didn't even use all of my first order of Cymilium, in case a bee stings me, I'm still covered.
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anivoc
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Posted - 10/25/2008 : 11:41:29
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Hey Varmit....Very sweet!
I tried the cymilium and did not have the same "luck" but then again I didn't apply multiple times daily.
I'm beginning to think multiple applications a day must be key.
I have had some luck with just vinegar and knocked out a ulcerating either AK or BCC ( did not have it biopsied ) I recently have knocked another AK with it's two brothers on their way out.
I do the vinegar after my shower in the morning then hit it with white iodine. I am also taking Kelp ( which is full of natural iodine)
I've run the gamut..Bloodroot, Curaderm, Sunspot, cymlium, eggplant / vinegar, ammonia / pancreatin enzymes and last resort the scalpel.
I have to say that the vinegar once a day sure does make your skin look better and as I mentioned, for sure I knocked out one ulcerating AK totally with just vinegar.
I think I am going to up the anty to twice a day vinegar / iodine and see where it takes me.
Congrats on the success with Cymilium.. It's great that worked for you.
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anivoc
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Posted - 10/25/2008 : 14:17:05
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Originally posted by Stan Rubin
Two key ingredients are weakened when repeatedly exposed to oxygen, therefore the sealed throw-away pouches.
Hi Stan,
I know your in this to make a living and to that I understand. The individual packs make for an expensive way to buy say 4 oz. of it. Can you help me understand why it won't work in an airtight container e.g. the Sunspot ointment packaging (like a small metal toothpaste package) or the Curaderm plastic bottle?
FYI I have a good friend who owns a company that does all kind of small packaging of liquid goods for the pet industry. I would be glad to help you get this done via him if you are open to trying.
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marsha
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Posted - 10/27/2008 : 00:29:54
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| Stan could you tell me what you use as the penetration enhancer? Do you use DMSO? How do you think this is different than curaderm? Do you recommend covering the spot so it doesn't create a scab and scar less? How deep have you heard anybody say that their skin cancer has gone into their face? Has anybody had a before and after biopsy? Thanks, Marsha |
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rocco
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Posted - 10/28/2008 : 15:11:25
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Stan, thanks for a wonderful product and for keeping the cost where most can afford the treatment for whatever reason they seek it.
See my own testimonial under the first post of the following topic:
http://www.topicalinfo.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=146
On your website it has been indicated that it could take up to, I believe, 22 weeks to treat - per reports to you. For the record I used cymilium for about 26-27 weeks on a stubborn BCC on the side of my nose to knock it out. I also used another mixture that I felt aided the cymilium treatment (ingredients listed under the link above for anyone that is interested).
I have had less luck, however, for a nodular BCC. I tried the treatment for a few months without knocking it out. I have taken a few months off and am about to start again with the full combo treatment.
I, like one of the other posters, would love to see a larger sized option for cymilium - especially if larger "bulk sized" might equate to lower cost per unit of measure.
Best regards to you Stan. |
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rocco
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Posted - 11/03/2008 : 16:03:17
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Stan,
I appreciate the reduced cost for Cymilium and placed an order today for several boxes.
My question - what is the shelf life of Cymlium if kept refrigerated? |
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dan
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Posted - 11/05/2008 : 23:34:47
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This reply is directed towards marsha's first two questions regarding whether DMSO is an ingredient and what is the penetration enhancer in Cymilium. If Stan has more or updated information that would be welcome.
The ingredients disclosed on the Cymilium box are the active ingredient ammonium hydroxide 3% in a base containing aloe vera, cetyl alcohol, diazolidinyl urea, emulsifying wax, methylparaben, mineral oil, pancreatin, petrolatum, polyethylene glycol distearate, propylene glycol, propylparaben, sodium laurel ether sulfate, stearic acid, urea, and water. Dimethyl sulfoxide (DMSO) is not listed as an ingredient of Cymilium.
The manufacture and sales of Cymilium may be protected under two patents issued to Stan. The patents are public domain and can be found at http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT5543149 (Treatment for insect bites) and http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT5670142 (Treatment for itch of chicken pox) or at http://patft.uspto.gov/ with the patent numbers 5543149 and 5670142. Anyway, I think the patents are kind of interesting in that they show the thinking behind formulating a therapeutic skin cream with enzymes. Many of us have found skin creams with pancreatin enzymes to be effective against skin cancers.
The second patent is a little more descriptive of possible penetration enhancers. "The composition may additionally comprise a penetration enhancer, which may be N-methyl-2-pyrrolidone, oleic acid, linoleic acid, isopropyl linoleate or a terpene. The terpene may be menthol, carvone, carveol, dihydrocarveol, dihydrocarvone, neomenthol, isopulegol, terpene-4-ol, menthone, pulegol, camphor, geraniol, .alpha.-terpineol, citral, linalol, carvacrol, thymol, anethole or a mixture thereof. The pharmaceutical composition may additionally comprise urea, lecithin or mixtures thereof, which function both as penetration enhancers and surfactants." Matching this list with Cymilium's ingredients points to urea as the penetration enhancer.
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anivoc
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Posted - 11/06/2008 : 00:15:16
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Good work Dan! I was going to e-mail you. I woke up the day after Stan posted that Cymilium is "PATENTED AND PROTECTED BY LAW." and felt compelled to google patent search his patent.. You don't find anything when you look up Cymilium but you do when you look up Stan Rubin.
I found the patents that Stan references his patent on equally very interesting.
I learned a lot about pancreatin enzymes and which ones have a short life, long life and things that activate them.. Papayan is the best and urea is the activator..
Most of these referenced patents are expired so are free to use as you wish. Stans patent is for a bug bite / anti itch formula and is not patented as a skin cancer remedy.
It takes a couple of clicks to get to the doc I'm speaking of and it is a long but educational read..
http://www.google.com/patents?id=Hy5PAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4
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