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Russky

USA
19 Posts

Posted - 12/25/2012 :  23:00:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, second scab is still there. Dark and resisting. 12 days old.
Total 28 days of iodine covering. About 5 of the heads appeared in my wide margin. Now they go through iceberg period.
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D.B.Lawton

USA
22 Posts

Posted - 01/02/2013 :  08:37:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am interested to see the finished product, Russky. Especially in this case. This should definitely prove to any doubters that Dr. Simoncini's treatment is the real deal. It will be nice to see you cleared up, and healthy again.
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TheWind777

USA
3 Posts

Posted - 01/09/2013 :  10:31:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would like to get back to everybody seeing that I used Iodine extensively on 'liver spots', facial 'psoriasis' (now I would say that it was probably a dermal fungus) which had gotten to itch really bad, was quite bright-red and covered the sinus area of my face, and thick pad-like spots on my arms which can be scraped-off with my fingers if I try hard enough.

The last time I spoke it was 07/17/2011 and it is now 01/09/13.

First, iodine applied ten to 15 times-a-day is how it is done. Know, though, that this might not be a safe thing to do. You better have a really bad problem. Don't just willy-nilly paint iodine on yourself. Christine was doing that. She put iodine on the white spot on her arm for about a year. She now has hypothyroidism where her TSH values around around 4 and she's taking pills to try and bring it down. She doesn't have Hashimoto Syndrome (if she did, the iodine treatments would have probably been disastrous to her.

Also, she was using iodine to try and get a brown spot off her face. It is still there, the 1/2" white spot is still there.

Whether she would have gotten the hypothyroidism without having put on all that iodine is unknown. But, if you already have a problem with hypothyroidism... don't use repeated iodine and don't be super-vigilant with it.

From my own experience, I had mixed experience. It did incredibly well on the 'psoriasis' on my face. I now use only hydrogen peroxide when it starts to turn a bit pink or starts being a bit scaly; and that backs-it-off again. Didn't get rid of it, but certainly stopped the incredibly-itcy nature of it. I would say it was 90 percent good at getting rid of that.

As far as spots go, if you paint it on your arm... then spots appear that you didn't even know were there. You then apply it on those spots and they (eventually) go away. However, afterwards, a dark spot remains. I'm glad it's my arm and not my face because I would now have dark spots on my face and not just on my arm.

Also, it seems to aggravate some spots. It seems to make them grow where they weren't growing before. They seem to go away, then in a few months they grow back (worse than they were before).

At other times it makes them go away forever. Most times it will leave a permanent brown spot where it occurred that doesn't go away with further application. It is just a brown spot afterwards. Don't use it on your face, then.

I am, right at this moment, coating some spots on my right arm; so, obviously, I do still think it works better than anything else I've ever tried (nothing else doesn't anything) and don't worry about getting hypothyoidism. I think it was just a coincidence that she got high TSH numbers, probably unrelated to her applications.

In her case, nobody ever said the white patch even COULD be gotten rid of. It wasn't what people typically try and get rid of. It's definitely better than it was. It is more like normal skin and less like a white patch.

The spot on her face is about the same as it was before.

In my own case, my skin literally burns. It is like the iodine burns me. That didn't occur with her. That's probably why it works with me. It's like I'm getting a chemical peel. Afterwards the skin peels-off and nice skin is below.

For those who say they're applying it twice-a-day or such. It does nothing if you just do it a couple-times-a-day. You might as well be putting water on it. You have to coat it at least 10 times to see the effect (and you definitely will see effects, depending on whether it is something that iodine will get rid of).

If you were to ask me? I think they're wrong about psoriasis. I now think that psoriasis, and any other thing that you use iodine on and it goes away is actually some kind of unknown organism such as a fungus, yeast, or micobacteria (or even some other living thing that they haven't identified yet). Either that or it is a virus... that's why it comes back again.

Their concept that the body is fighting itself is basically crap. I think the body is fighting itself because THERE'S SOMETHING THERE AND THE BODY CAN'T GET RID OF IT SO IT JUST STARTS FIGHTING ANYTHING, INCLUDING YOUR BODY.

Medicine is definitely NOT science. They pretend they're science when they're ALL just quackery. Their tools are flawed. Medicines are not created by caring people and aren't really created by scientists. They're created by chemists and because they are creatd by companies, there is no heart in it. They just want to get money. They don't care that something gives you 37 different 'side-effects'.

I think simple remedies work better than complex chemical remedies. I would rather use a simple thing like iodine, or lemon juice, or tea tree oil, or oregano oil, or salt than use all their toxic chemicals.



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Russky

USA
19 Posts

Posted - 01/11/2013 :  16:40:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi thewind777,
I read the whole board. Nice of you to update us.
I can chime in as foreigner from country with heavy iodine use. Nobody ever developed any complications from iodine use on my watch.
And I was medically trained including internship at cancer hospital. My mom was big user of iodine. She died at 72 from stroke never suffering any side effects from iodine. I thought it was unsafe but facts speak for themselves. She was right. Iodine was safe.



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Russky

USA
19 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2013 :  18:09:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Mr. Lawton,
Today was a big day. After 7 weeks of applying iodine scab #3 fell off. Alliluia! White clear skin, no sign of original 'head'. As a bonus varicose vein next to 'head' is gone too.
Dr. Simonchini is genius. My mom never succeded with iodine because she was using 2% iodine. 5% Lugol was sold without prescription but we had no clue to use it on skin. Pediatrician prescribed me Lugol but only to cover strepthroat glands area inside my throat. It was mixed with glycerin.
You and Chuck broke through layers of my prejudice toward iodine as being ineffective.
Thanks a lot!



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Here is picture of my original 'keratosis head' as it looks today.
Head is gone!

Edited by - Russky on 01/23/2013 19:49:45
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Toni5671

5 Posts

Posted - 01/21/2013 :  08:56:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I purchased Lugol's on Amazon and just noticed that it says 2% on the label. Can I use that since I already have it or did I just waste my money?
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Russky

USA
19 Posts

Posted - 01/21/2013 :  15:53:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Toni5671 Not to ignore you I'll say I don't have opinion on 2% Lugol. My mom was using ethyl alcohol based iodine tincture.
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Russky

USA
19 Posts

Posted - 01/22/2013 :  18:07:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jason79, I agree with you. Chemical peel it is for my kind of skin problem.
I was reading somewhere that atom of iodine has characteristics that confuse bacteria into thinking it's atom of oxygen. Iodine clogs their oxygen receptors and bacteria dies.
Iodine probably has more than one action to produce dramatic results like Mr. Lawton's.

Probably chokes candida too. Just thinking aloud.
Thank you for pain encouragement! Quite unbearable.

Edited by - Russky on 01/22/2013 19:39:42
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Toni5671

5 Posts

Posted - 01/23/2013 :  15:47:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wondering if anyone can tell me where to purchase the clear 12% iodine that Lawson mentioned. Thank you
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D.B.Lawton

USA
22 Posts

Posted - 01/23/2013 :  19:27:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey Russky! Hurray! Good for you!!! I am SO glad that this worked for you!

Toni: Here is the link to the 12% iodine:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/120955610801?_trksid=p5197.c0.m619
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Russky

USA
19 Posts

Posted - 01/23/2013 :  19:45:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
12% white iodine is potassium iodide. Check Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potassium_iodide

Edited by - Russky on 01/23/2013 19:47:58
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Toni5671

5 Posts

Posted - 01/25/2013 :  16:37:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you. Wasn't sure if there was a difference in quality since some versions were way cheaper than others but didn't want to take any chances so I ordered the more expensive SSKI Wweetwater stuff from UK.
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Lily44

USA
38 Posts

Posted - 01/26/2013 :  00:05:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Did you ever use the clear iodine, or did you stick with the colored iodine?

quote:
Originally posted by D.B.Lawton

Hey Russky! Hurray! Good for you!!! I am SO glad that this worked for you!

Toni: Here is the link to the 12% iodine:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/120955610801?_trksid=p5197.c0.m619

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D.B.Lawton

USA
22 Posts

Posted - 02/17/2013 :  23:20:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I myself used the 7% Tincture of Iodine (alcohol based). Burned like hell, but did the trick.
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Toni5671

5 Posts

Posted - 02/18/2013 :  07:18:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I used the weaker J. Crows Lugols Solution 2%. I thought I had ordered the 5% but I guess not. Anyhow, I sent away for the 12% white iodine and I like it better because its clear but I honestly don't think it works any better.
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anivoc

640 Posts

Posted - 02/18/2013 :  09:24:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by D.B.Lawton

I myself used the 7% Tincture of Iodine (alcohol based). Burned like hell, but did the trick.



Hey DB I know the burned like hell thing with my concoction but to be clear, after application how long did it burn for you? Again for me certainly bad for the first few minutes but at least in my case subsides after about 5 minutes...do you agree?
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D.B.Lawton

USA
22 Posts

Posted - 02/18/2013 :  18:40:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh.... so the clear also burned? Hmm.... I tell ya... that 7% tincture burned.... and burned longer that 5 minutes. In fact, that was when I knew that it was time to re-apply..... when it quit....lol. Hell man, I been roofing houses for 36 years.... I reckon pain is just a part of accepted life, to me.
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Russky

USA
19 Posts

Posted - 02/23/2013 :  15:15:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Posted message at the wrong place. http://www.topicalinfo.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1509
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from http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/4806418/Prince-Philips-top-ten-gaffes.html

Prince Philip has actinic keratosis he seem to be treating himself. One picture shows sign of iodine.
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Jason79

10 Posts

Posted - 02/24/2013 :  11:36:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Always great to hear about successful stories.

Mine is still going on, positively, I think. After nearly 4 months and 4 iodine application cycles, my wound seems to on its way. It's now completely covered by skin (has never been since I had the bcc), however it had "hot spots" under the very fragile skin for quite a while. I can still see a darker shade of pink under the new skin, and unsure whether it's part of the healing or a residue of the bcc. I'll wait for the surrounding area to completely heal before trying a new series of applications. The treatment left me a very large "scar", it's like when you burn yourself with the muffler of a motorcycle. The surrounding area is still darker, but healing. The pink spot in the middle is covered in skin, and about the size of... don't know.... like one of the buttons of a cordless phone. It took MUCH time to get to this point, but my bcc developed to the state of a big ulcer, the size of a quarter.
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logicman

USA
7 Posts

Posted - 03/08/2013 :  15:32:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Some observations since my last post.

Re
The formula is
7 grams iodine
5 grams potassium iodide
5 mls distilled water
alchool to reach 25 mls
All the best
Tullio Simoncini

I just noticed that this formula is not a 7% lugols that you can purchase at

http://www.ebay.com/sch/the_full_orchestra/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=25&_trksid=p3686

It is much stronger wrt I2 (iodine).
7% lugols has 7g I2 in a 100 mL solution.

dr Simoncini's has 7g I2 in only 25 mL solution. This is 4 times stronger wrt I2.

Regarding KI (potassium iodide): 7% lugols contains 14g KI in 100 mL solution.

dr Simoncini's has 5g KI in 25 mL. This is 1.42 times stronger wrt potassium iodide.

I see now why Simoncini had to add some alcohol to his 5 mL of distilled water. The iodine (I2) will not dissolve in water with that concentration and proportion to KI.
Iodine (I2) does not dissolve in H2O. You either use alcohol, some other solvent or, as Lugol's discovered before the Civil War, you mix in "enough" KI to dissolve the whole mix in distilled water. Up to around 7% I2 concentration, "enough" is twice as much KI.

I made 100 mL of 7% lugols using chemicals available at full orchestra. I put 7 g I2 and 14g KI in a mason jar and added around 79 mL distilled H2O. Let sit overnight and stirred it up. You can google how to make lugols and watch a U-tube.

For treating skin cancer lesions I now cover the lesion with DMSO first before applying the 7% lugols. DMSO is penetration enhancer and anti inflammatory.

Below is a quote from the DMSO group at Yahoo. Note, he used I2 not KI. Note also the last sentence.

"I have used two different elements to treat squamous cell skin cancer, tagemet pill, anti acid from wally world, dissolved into a paste with adrop of water, and mixed with tsp dmso, and applied several times a day. I also have used elemental iodine, which is iodine crystals dissolved in drinking alcohol, at about a five percent mix, followed w/ dmso several times a day. Both worked equally well.
I have both basal cell and squamous cell carcinoma, and *not* melanoma.
Interesting thought that dmso may work alone, I shall give that a try next time I get one. I live in wes tex a lot of sun here daily, seen a lot of ol cowboys w/ half their ears cut off, noses and faces botched up with surgery. sad it does make me. It is very simple to use the two above procedures, no surgery, no freezing, and with a lighter wallet, None of which that I removed were dxed, but on the other hand, that is the left hand, I have had some twenty to thirty burned or cut off that were dxed, so I believe what I removed myself were the real deal, When my immune system, white blood cells fall below three thousand, I begin getting skin cancer, so ultimately the responsibly of the immune system be the cause of my skin cancer."

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logicman

USA
7 Posts

Posted - 03/08/2013 :  15:48:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
regarding gloe's post of 8/8/2012 quoted below
Can you mention docs name and elaborate on his cancer prevent/treatment protocol?
I have started using the enzymes 15 twice a day. I got this from the Kelley/Gonzalez protocol. Google: One answer to cancer.


"My alternative doctor (actually a well known alternative cancer doctor in NYC, who I have been seeing for almost 20 years for chronic fatigue syndrome) recommends the vit c paste treatment. You make a paste from vit C (ascorbic acid powder) put it on in the a.m., leave it all day; wash it off in the p.m., and reapply paste. Keep it on all night and repeat for a total of 7 days. He also recommends taking 10 caps of pork pancreas (Allergy Research Group brand) 3 times a day on an empty stomach. It must be on an empty stomach. If you take pancreas with food, all it will do is help digest your food. I wait at least 2 hours before/after a meal to take pancreatic enzyme caps. If I wake up in the middle of the night, I get up and take more.
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jpwonders

6 Posts

Posted - 03/11/2013 :  22:51:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just came upon this thread last nite. I had googled Dr. S's iodine treatment. Some good info. Keeping the bc's away has been a loosing battle since I was diagnosed. At first I had monthly cryo sessions at a clinic, after having one surgically removed. This surgery left me w/ painful nerve damage and filing for disability in 09. It also triggered fibromyalgia and a whole host of health stuff. The pain still shoots thru the area where the the surgery was and is like being stabbed w/ a big knife. I don't leave the house, if someone touched me there and they have, it becomes ER time and weeks of severe pain. I will never be cut again!!! If that means death so be it.

What has been working for me is C-herb, but can only treat 1 area at a time. AS I treat one 2 more come up. I no longer have access to the cryo treatments and all they do here is cut cryo is not in their vocabulary-only cutting, so this sounds good. I have a severe thyroid condition and am not to have iodine products. I worry about using this wonderful treatment due to the iodine I would absorb.

I wonder though if the baking soda peroxide paste would be beneficial to me instead. There is 3% they sell at the drug store and 20% food grade they sell at the health market. Which one would work in the paste?

I'd prefer the 3% as it's easier and cheaper to come by and I don't have to worry about being burned by the bottle seeping.

I bought a can of what is essentially histofreeze [cryo in a can used by some clinics], but a better brand that was mailed out to me today, so I can freeze if needed, the areas I can't hit w/ c-herb, but still, freezing is not as natural as say baking soda. So I would prefer to figure out best way to use baking soda paste.
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Toni5671

5 Posts

Posted - 03/12/2013 :  08:50:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I began my journey with this forum a couple months ago when I discovered that I had a very small lesion on my chest. It was like a scab that wouldn't go away. I remembered seeing Dr S on Doug Kaufman's TV show called Know the Cause which teaches how cancer is a fungus and how we need to stay away from all refined, processed foods because those are the kinds of foods that the cancer feeds off of.

I am a relatively healthy 41 year old. I'm very active, I run marathons and have been eating a mostly vegetarian diet for the past few years but, to be completely honest, I still found myself indulging in the processed garbage and comfort foods quite regularly. Let's face it, ice cream and potato chips taste good! However, upon discovering my lesion, I realized that my skin was an outward manifestation that my body was not as healthy as I had hoped. I knew that I needed to get serious about what I was putting in my body because you are, after all, what you eat!

About the same time I started treating my lesion with Lugol's iodine, I also started researching diet and nutrition because I was not just interested in making the lesion go away, I wanted to make my body a cancer fighting machine to insure that no type of cancer would ever come back again!

This is where I'm going to bombard you with information that, if you take the time to immerse yourself in it and make the necessary changes as I did, you will find hope and healing for your body...

There are lots of interesting documentaries that discuss the topic of how diet is directly related to the 2 biggest killers of the western world: heart disease and cancer. If you have NetFlix or Amazon Prime, look up the documentary Forks Over Knives. It is compelling and life changing. I would also highly recommend Food.inc, Food Matters, Hungry For Change, and Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead. Along with those documentaries, I would also highly recommend the books "The China Study" and "Healthy at 100".

I can't say that I agree 100% with all the dietary advice given in every one of these publications but it's definitely a giant step in the right direction. I currently follow a very strict diet of 100% raw fruits and veggies. Most people would say that my diet is a bit extreme but I would suggest that dying of cancer or having your chest cut open for a coronary bypass is EXTREME. Since reading the book The 80/10/10 Diet and adopting it's 100% raw vegan lifestyle, I have never felt better. It's so liberating to know that, if I feed my body the nutrients it requires, it will not only function optimally but it can prevent all sorts of chronic illness/disease and actually reverse many of the signs of aging along with whatever ill health I have suffered as a result of the years of abusing my body with the Standard American Diet.

Just remember, there are no shortcuts or miracle cures. It takes day after day, month after month, year after year, etc. of making the right decisions in a world where comfort and convenience reigns supreme. This is a BATTLE, it's a battle for your life and vitality, but the good news is it's winnable! So fight and fight hard that you may come out victorious!

Here are a few little teasers to get you started on your journey to wellness:

http://www.chrisbeatcancer.com/the-raw-vegan-diet/

http://health101.org/art_cancer_vitamin_D.htm

http://gerson.org/gerpress/the-gerson-therapy/
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logicman

USA
7 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2013 :  15:35:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
re: " I have a severe thyroid condition and am not to have iodine products. I worry about using this wonderful treatment due to the iodine I would absorb.

If you read the files at the Yahoo iodine group, you will find info from dr Abramham re 10-12% absorbable for transdermal I2.
http://www.optimox.com/pics/Iodine/updates/UNIOD-02/UNIOD_02.htm

Other files suggest that lugols is helpful for the thyroid by pushing out floride and bromide. I am on thyroid meds and have built up to 50 mg per Day of I2/KI. I feel it helps with cancer.

I also use enzymes learned about from dr-Gonzalez.com, reading his books and listening to MP3 lectures by him.

I try to eat as much grass fed meat as I can, since one of his cases indicated he puts all his melanoma patients on red meat.
Note for a different tumor type cancer, dr G may recommend a vegetarian diet. It depends on your ancestrial type. Google One Answer to Cancer for more free info on this protocol.

Detox is my current exploration area. Also reading Brian Peskin's info and may back off the high fish oil I have been using. A bloodtest showed that my arachidonic acid was very low. This confirms one point Peskin raises.

Edited by - logicman on 03/13/2013 15:39:54
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trueson

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Posted - 04/12/2013 :  21:41:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have a BCC on the edge of my lower eyelid on the outer skin surface and it also wraps around and continues to the inside of the eyelid a little.

I tried a Vitamin C solution on the outer BCC for a few weeks but it seemed to have little effect so I changed to a 5% Lugols solution on the outer BCC and a sodium bicarbonate solution on the inner BCC as recommended by Dr Simoncini on his website.

Initially I had big problems trying to apply the Lugols so close to the eyeball as my eye would sting and water profusely almost immediately and apart from being quite painful it also washed away the iodine.

I thought that maybe my eyelashes were spreading the iodine to my eyeball when I blinked so I removed the upper and lower eyelashes around the effected area (I have read that these will grow back in 7-8 weeks). But this did little to help.

So then I thought that maybe it was the fumes from the iodine that were floating up to the eyeball from the treated area, so I tried lying down on the floor so the fumes would float straight up and not into the eyeball, closing my eyes to protect them still more, and asking my partner to apply the iodine. This has done the trick! No more tearing up! I also apply the sodium bicarbonate solution whilst lying down at a different time of the day so it doesn't wash away the iodine.

If you are living alone it would be more difficult to use this method but still possible. My partner uses an LED 'miners' light strapped to her forehead (looks quite funny) which allows her to use one hand to pull down the eyelid a little and the other to apply the iodine with a tiny paint brush. If doing it alone you would need to position a table lamp exactly, hold a mirror with one hand and the brush with the other whilst pulling the eyelid down with your pinky from the hand holding the brush.

I've been applying the iodine for 3 weeks now and it has just started to form the first scab, so two more scabs to go. No real outcome yet but it looks promising.


Edited by - trueson on 04/13/2013 07:43:09
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D.B.Lawton

USA
22 Posts

Posted - 04/14/2013 :  09:46:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow. I applaud your inventiveness, as well as your courage. That is a scary place to have a carcinoma. I am sure that the iodine will do the trick. The bicarbonate, as well. Dr. Simoncini is a true healer, which is everything that any doctor should be. He deserves to be rewarded for his forward thinking, and his desire to actually HELP people. What an evil world we live in, where people such as Dr. Simoncini are vilified and persecuted, all because he is trying to CURE someone.
Congratulations to you for having the courage to treat this on your own. Keep us posted!
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jpwonders

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Posted - 04/14/2013 :  17:43:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you Toni for the references to the documetries and sites. I will check them out. I saw reference to Gerson in the same video that referenced the iodine therapy. More and more access to the real answers are hidden as big co's do not want profits threatened. Take some research but is worth it.
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trueson

44 Posts

Posted - 04/15/2013 :  06:37:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for your kind words D.B.Lawton. I lost a mother to chemotherapy so I'm determined to explore all options and use surgery only as a very last resort. The first 2 weeks after the diagnosis I was in a bit of a panic but now I feel confident that I will somewhere find a cure - maybe with Iodine. Will post results soon.
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trueson

44 Posts

Posted - 05/20/2013 :  08:17:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Can anyone confirm the strength of the iodine solution the formula of which was given at the start of this thread?

My compounding chemist said it is 28% iodine and not 7% as expected. 28% is ALOT stronger than 7%. I have switched from 5% lugols to the 28% solution and I have had to reduce the number of applications at each 'sitting' from 5 to 2 due to my eye tearing up from the fumes. It seems to soak into the skin alot quicker too or perhaps it is just evaporating more quickly.

The 5% lugols has not worked as hoped on my BCC. The sodium bicarbonate solution I have been using on the inside of my eye has not reduced the inside BCC either. But I will persevere with the stronger iodine solution.
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Russky

USA
19 Posts

Posted - 05/27/2013 :  19:25:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by trueson

Can anyone confirm the strength of the iodine solution the formula of which was given at the start of this thread?

My compounding chemist said it is 28% iodine and not 7% as expected. 28% is ALOT stronger than 7%. I have switched from 5% lugols to the 28% solution and I have had to reduce the number of applications at each 'sitting' from 5 to 2 due to my eye tearing up from the fumes. It seems to soak into the skin alot quicker too or perhaps it is just evaporating more quickly.

The 5% lugols has not worked as hoped on my BCC. The sodium bicarbonate solution I have been using on the inside of my eye has not reduced the inside BCC either. But I will persevere with the stronger iodine solution.


Just a few thoughts on this topic. There's molecular weight, atomic weight and volume.
Your chemist is probably talking about different % than what the label on the bottle says.
In Russia we had iodine in the form of crystals. If I had a bruise I'd put a few crystals of iodine in the bucket of warm water. Just to keep water brown was the measurement.
No harm was ever done to me by not knowing percentage.
Chuck said just keep it dark brown.

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trueson

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Posted - 05/29/2013 :  08:10:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That's possible I guess, if I am understanding you correctly. But most iodine we buy eg Lugols is 2% or 5% or 7% by volume. So it doesnt seem to make much sense to use a different standard to this. And the chemist would be well aware of the different ways of measuring percentages in solutions you would think.

I think knowing the percentage is important for example when you are going from using 5% to using 7% and expect it to be just a bit stronger so use just slightly less and it ends up burning your eye, which is what happended to me. I was using 10 applications of 5% Lugols on my eyelid (in one sitting) so when I got what I expected to be the 7% solution and made 7 applications it caused a severe reaction to my eye and caused the whole lower eyelid to swell up and was excrutiatingly painful. It ended up filled with pus and took 3-4 days to calm down. It may not matter so much on an area like your leg or arm but there are some sensitive areas like on your face where it does matter.

After this happended I diluted one drop of the 28% with one drop distilled water to produce a 14% solution but this didnt seem to provide even a slight burning or stinging so I am now diluting 2 drops of the 28% with 1 drop of water to produce a 19% solution which seems to be right on the edge of what my eyelid can tolerate with 7 applications at the one sitting.

Edited by - trueson on 05/29/2013 08:14:08
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Russky

USA
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Posted - 05/29/2013 :  15:32:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by trueson

That's possible I guess, if I am understanding you correctly. But most iodine we buy eg Lugols is 2% or 5% or 7% by volume. So it doesnt seem to make much sense to use a different standard to this. And the chemist would be well aware of the different ways of measuring percentages in solutions you would think.

I think knowing the percentage is important for example when you are going from using 5% to using 7% and expect it to be just a bit stronger so use just slightly less and it ends up burning your eye, which is what happended to me. I was using 10 applications of 5% Lugols on my eyelid (in one sitting) so when I got what I expected to be the 7% solution and made 7 applications it caused a severe reaction to my eye and caused the whole lower eyelid to swell up and was excrutiatingly painful. It ended up filled with pus and took 3-4 days to calm down. It may not matter so much on an area like your leg or arm but there are some sensitive areas like on your face where it does matter.

After this happended I diluted one drop of the 28% with one drop distilled water to produce a 14% solution but this didnt seem to provide even a slight burning or stinging so I am now diluting 2 drops of the 28% with 1 drop of water to produce a 19% solution which seems to be right on the edge of what my eyelid can tolerate with 7 applications at the one sitting.


I'm a little old lady remembering old things. For iodine to work crust must form.
Microscopic crystals of iodine are deposited on the skin by alcohol based solution.
Little crystals slowly evaporate at skin temperature. This evaporation kills bacteria.
Your eye must be moist and tearing. I don't think iodine treatment would work in that area.
I hope you're successful. It will benefit mankind as a whole if you succeed. :)
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trueson

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Posted - 05/30/2013 :  03:39:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you, Russky. The BCC is on the top edge of the lower eyelid and not on the eye itself and so is dry. I would like to add that it seems to be a 'Nodular' form of BCC, based on the 12 different types of BCC shown here:

http://www.basalcellcarcinomapictures.org/types.html

Edited by - trueson on 05/30/2013 04:01:35
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trueson

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Posted - 06/05/2013 :  07:21:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just an update: I have been using iodine on my BCC for over 6 weeks now and the result is that the BCC has grown and spread. I cannot afford to continue with this method any longer. Iodine may work for some people with certain types of skin cancer but it hasn't worked for me at this time. And so I have started using Petty Spurge or Radium Weed sap. The results after 2 days have been immediate.

After about 10 hours of the first application the entire lower eyelid area began to swell up and at the end of the second day I can see areas of pus developing all over the lower eyelid and the centre of the BCC on the upper edge of the lower eyelid has become sensitive to the touch, whereas it wasn't before. As this is the iodine thread I guess I should start posting over at the Petty Spurge thread from now on.
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N J Pinney

USA
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Posted - 08/05/2013 :  20:00:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

As to what I think is a skin cancer preventative measure, I have started to paint J. Crows Lugol's Iodine (from Amazon) on my forearms several times a day. Why there? I feel a very-very slight unnatural itching just under the skin that recurs throughout the day--and I have a history of BC and SC--and I've had many years of sun on those appendages from rolled up sleeves.
There are no break-outs now and just maybe the Lugol's sln. will prevent them. I started this regimen recently prior to finding this site specifically addressing the iodine approach and feel the experience of you others with conditions far worse than mine are inspiring and confirm my original hunch of the efficacy of iodine. The bottle of J. Crows Lugol has a glass dropper which allows easy painting on the skin. I don't give a damn about its orange color. No stinging or pain connected here. And the unnatural feeling in the arms goes away for the day. Maybe its a preventive.
I am an 83 year old nordic male in good health and for 40 years, being light complexioned, have had caritosis spots regularly burned off my face by the docs and BCC and a SCC excised off forearm and chest. Next one of those I see, I'll try the iodine.
If I may be permitted to interject non skin cancer related info on iodine, I really started using the Lugol's iodine for another purpose--a nutritional purpose, on advice of the David Brownstein, M.D. newsletter which notes that it is sorely lacking but very necessary in the average diet. He recs. its use as a dietary supplement on the order of 6.25 to 50 mg/day with larger amts. needed for beneficial treatment for those with internal cancers. With 6.25 mg being the amount in a single drop of Lugol's, I take 4 drops/day (25 mg) in juice which masks the taste.
So I am getting the iodine internally as well as transdermaly--good!
Final important benefit: all the radiation that the government or MSM does not disclose that is coming to the US by way of the Fukishima Dai Iche disaster of March 2011 that for a while now has been coming to the US by rain on crops and grass eaten by milk producing cows and also by seafood from the now radioactive Pacific ocean, that all contains radioactive iodine and to replace that radioactive iodine with non-radioactive iodine it's good for you for obvious reasons.
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hamsa

USA
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Posted - 11/18/2013 :  10:56:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dear drbeckl2. I treated a suspicious red mark near my left collarbone. did an initial black salve application and it went pretty textbook fashion. i did leave the salve on longer than recommended.
after a few weeks it still looked suspicious, so I retreated, but I applied too much. No eschars. Had two areas I added some salve to. It began to work, but never developed an eschar. It may have bee the daily use of hydrogen peroxide to clean, i'm not sure. I kept applying un-petroleum jelly because it was suggested that i not let it dry. the two small openings merged into one. It is black around the circumference, and grayish white in the center, but is not rising. I'm baffled. I'm thing I should let it take its course and let it dry. By the way, i really had to "cowboy up" for this one.
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gloe

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Posted - 12/29/2013 :  11:02:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have had a suspicious area (near side of nose) for a few years. I first tried vitamin C paste, but could only tolerate the pain for 4 days, and the little bump came back after about a year. I tried it again, but I find the pain to be unbearable after a few days, and I stop. Probably why it didn't work the first time.

Earlier this year, I did cymillium for 12 weeks. It is easy to use (nothing to mix up like vit C paste) but a bit messy looking and certainly pricey compared to vit C. It cost about $80 for 3 boxes of 14 packs. I was using 1 pack a day, so a box lasted 2 weeks. One order of 3 packs lasted 6 weeks; and I had placed a second order of 3 boxes. So in total it cost $160 for 12 weeks and it seemed to do nothing. Yes, I know I could keep going, but I would rather spend that money on very good quality pancreas enzymes to take by mouth . . .
So, I decided to try iodine. I asked my alternative doctor for a prescription for SSKI. My insurance wouldn't cover it because my alternative doctor is not on my HMO (isn't that grand) but it only cost $36 and one bottle is sure to last at least a year. SSKI is clear, and dries to a white powder on the skin. It is easy to brush off the excess powder after it dries. On normal skin, it is merely slightly irritating (the skin gets a little red) but on my "suspicious area" scabs have formed. There appear to be 3 separate little bumps that are reacting. It took weeks for one of them to form a scab, but I was only using it once a day (at night). Now I am being more consistent about putting more on a few times during the day.

I know lugol's is less expensive, but it is also deep orange! I would rather use the clear stuff. I have seen SSKI for sale on eBay but also at the tahoma clinic here: http://www.tahomadispensary.com/istar.asp?a=29&search=sski Here is an article about its many uses: http://tahomaclinicblog.com/iodide/

What is weird is that the Tahoma clinic added a colorant to it!! And they charge $45, more than my pharmacy for the prescription. So, I am just using the prescription stuff.

In addition, I eat a pretty pure diet (no junk food, very little sugar) mostly organic, and take lots of supplements as recommended by my alternative doctor. I also have been taking 10 capsules of Allergy Research group pork pancreas 3 times per day on an empty stomach, so I work on it from the inside as well as the surface. I am now taking this 15 days "on" and 5 days "off." (My alternative doctor does not recommend taking supplements without a break.) The ARG pork pancreas is available on amazon.com in a big 720 cap size at a pretty good price. Also available at Wilner's in NYC for a not as good price. This pancreas was formulated by a well known alternative cancer doctor and it is the same kind he uses with his patients (only his cancer patients take it like 6 times a day between meals and more with meals).

It is really only recently that I got more consistent with the SSKI at least 3 times a day, so I am hopeful this will work. It stings very briefly when I first put it on (it is NOTHING like the pain of the vit C paste). So all in all, for cost, convenience of use, and comfort, this is so far my favorite method.

I am very anxious to avoid having surgery on the side of my nose . . . will update as I go along. Sorry I don't have pictures but there is really not much to see.
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gloe

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Posted - 01/02/2014 :  08:32:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Very disturbing development. I took a long shower this morning and all the scabs came off. An area that made a scab but I did not think I have a problem on, now has a red bump, actually larger than the other 3. So now I have 4 bumps. Thye are all pretty close together next to and going into the side of my nose.

I am thinking of adding DMSO to the SSKI for better penetration into these bumps. This article recommends mixing SSKI with DMSO for topical applications for a large variety of problems. http://tahomaclinicblog.com/iodide/ I have used this in the past for toenail fungus and it worked like a charm. I have read that Vit C is too large a molecule to mix with DMSO, so that may not work.

I would really like to try 5 FU mixed with DMSO, but how to get some? I don't know if my alternative doctor will give it to me. I am fairly sure that a dermatologist would not forgo the income from surgery in order to just write me a prescription for 5 FU. I don't even want the area biopsied.

So I am thinking of trying the SSKI+DMSO mix, and if it doesn't work, I could try having a long talk with my alternative doctor about this.


Edited by - gloe on 01/02/2014 08:34:20
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stephaniecd

USA
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Posted - 01/06/2014 :  08:24:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
gloe, Keep using the iodine. The "cancer/fungus" grow at different rates through the skin, and my experience shows that once you've started applying the iodine it seems to stimulate the area. It lights up, so to speak. You can also use Oil of Oregano. I swear it works on these straggler areas. I've successfully treated several areas with 5% Lugol's solution. Just be patient and keep applying. It does take time.

Edited by - stephaniecd on 01/06/2014 08:26:15
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Daliaflor

Brazil
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Posted - 01/07/2014 :  07:31:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi! I am suffering with the same problem on my face....this ugly bcc...and i saw your pictures...and i see a light in the end of this dark place where i am now....please can you give e advises? Your result it is amazing!
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Daliaflor

Brazil
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Posted - 01/07/2014 :  07:34:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Daliaflor

Hi! I am suffering with the same problem on my face....this ugly bcc...and i saw your pictures...and i see a light in the end of this dark place where i am now....please can you give e advises? Your result it is amazing!


I don't want to do any surgery, i don't want any scars in my face....please help me as here in Rio de Janeiro no one heard about....i feel completely alone here... No one to talk about....doctors only give e surgery option....ohhhhhh i am so lost!
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Daliaflor

Brazil
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Posted - 01/07/2014 :  08:50:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Russky

Jason79, I agree with you. Chemical peel it is for my kind of skin problem.
I was reading somewhere that atom of iodine has characteristics that confuse bacteria into thinking it's atom of oxygen. Iodine clogs their oxygen receptors and bacteria dies.
Iodine probably has more than one action to produce dramatic results like Mr. Lawton's.

Probably chokes candida too. Just thinking aloud.
Thank you for pain encouragement! Quite unbearable.


Hi! I am suffering of BCC on my face....please can you help me to get rid of this? Here in Brasil till now doctor's only suggest the mohs surgery.... And i don't want to cut my face....and stay with a scar....and than i found this forum....Dr. Tullio system...and i am excited! But i am very afraid....to o alone through the process....so i am here asking for help....
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Daliaflor

Brazil
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Posted - 01/07/2014 :  17:09:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by river

Mexico,yes ,you can buy colorless iodine. I dont know anything about it. Regular iodine does leave a brown stain on the skin,but in my opinion I would rather put up with that than the cancer.I would encourage you to get the Lugols solution or a similar solution in another brand,5% iodine,10% potassium iodide,85% distilled water. I know this solution works.Regards River.



Hi River! After all , when it is cured, does it leaves a brown stain?or just during the process?
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gloe

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Posted - 01/08/2014 :  05:43:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks stephanie for the encouragement. I have read the "combo treatments" thread and am convinced that combo treatments are the way to go. I think any one thing attacks the cancer from one aspect and it would be helpful to add other things. First I am going to start eating alot of broccoli, and I might mash some small amount of lightly steamed broc and put in on the area for a hour. I am due to go away for a vacation with a friend starting in a week, for 2 weeks, and when I get back I am really going to hit this thing. I think I have waited way too long to get serious about it. I am stopping the iodine for now, and putting coconut oil on my whole face, followed with orange oil on the bad spot. I have ordered neem oil and will try the "1/2 coconut oil -- 1/2 neem oil" for a few weeks while I am away, then hit this thing with iodine/dsmo and IP6 afterwards. I am looking for a pure form of DSMO, as I am trying to be very cautious with this product. I also take coconut oil by mouth with lots of supplements, and lots of pancreatic enzymes (ARG pork Pancreas) in between meals. I really think these things have be hit from the inside as well as the outside. Yes, I may add oregano oil too. :-)

quote:
Originally posted by stephaniecd

gloe, Keep using the iodine. The "cancer/fungus" grow at different rates through the skin, and my experience shows that once you've started applying the iodine it seems to stimulate the area. It lights up, so to speak. You can also use Oil of Oregano. I swear it works on these straggler areas. I've successfully treated several areas with 5% Lugol's solution. Just be patient and keep applying. It does take time.

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Daliaflor

Brazil
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Posted - 01/12/2014 :  08:23:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
someone can talk to me or answer me?
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Russky

USA
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Posted - 01/12/2014 :  13:08:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Daliaflor

someone can talk to me or answer me?



Comrade, you are in emergency situation and should follow your doctor's advice.
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stephaniecd

USA
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Posted - 01/17/2014 :  08:01:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Daliaflor, how large is the BCC on your face? I've dealt with three places on my face. First one was removed by MOHS and other two by iodine I applied myself. The iodine worked beautifully for me. I did not want another scar on my face. Had I known about iodine and alternative methods, I would have never had the MOHS. Post picture of the lesion.

quote:
Originally posted by Daliaflor

someone can talk to me or answer me?

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anivoc

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Posted - 01/17/2014 :  14:44:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Stephanie,

It would be great if you could provide better details of your success with iodine.

What brand and concentration of iodine you used.
How many times a day you applied it.
How long it took to eradicate the lesions.
The journey in regards to pain and pain management.
Lastly and always seems the hardest to get people to provide... pictures if you have them.

Thanks!

Tom
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judo

33 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2014 :  04:19:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi all, I have a small early BCC on the back of my neck as shown in the picture. I have not had a biopsy but have seen two doctors (one a specialist) who believe it is the beginning of a BCC. It started towards the end of 2013, it itches and is a little sore from time to time. Having been inspired by Chuck on here I intend to treat with Iodine following Dr Simoncini's instructions for application. I'm in the UK and managed to find some 12% Lugol's Iodine from an Amazon seller, will this be too strong, should I continue to search for 7%?
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judo

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Posted - 02/20/2014 :  04:23:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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