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Carole
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 Posted - 09/23/2012 : 10:12:43
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| Finally, the iodine scab on the original cancer has come off for the first time this a.m. That is about a week less than two months! The scab had become so thick from applying iodine that I wondered how it could even penetrate the area but it must have done so because the area certainly looks better than before I began treatment. Some days recently it was itching incredibly and yesterday it was burning a lot. I’ve continued to be consistent even though I’ve wondered if it was ever going to come off. Two days ago the scab came off for the third time on the second and smaller cancer that developed within the last several months on the right side of my nose; there is no scaring and the skin is very smooth! Again, I want to say “Thanks” to everyone posting on this site previously for taking the time to document their experiences for those who find this site later, giving each of us the courage to go the natural route, saving lots of pain and expense instead of just having a cancer cut out time and again. |
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Jason79
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Posted - 10/19/2012 : 15:15:17
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Hello all, and thanks everybody for sharing so much useful information about the bcc treatment with iodine.
Some background info on me: 33yo, male, caucasian. Not quite the typical skin cancer subject because my skin is not really pale, brown eyes and hair. I don't have my thyroid anymore, has been completely removed after it developed a tumor.
My bcc initially it just seemed a little wound on my leg the size of a cent, that no matter what, it never healed, becoming a small ulcer. It then grew bigger to the size of a quarter. The wound hasn't healed, and it's like a hole in the skin, whose level is a little higher than the surround skin (like a bump). Before trying surgical options, I decided to try the iodine treatment, three days ago. Bought 7% alchoolic iodine tincture, and started the treatment.
The first day I applied iodine in large quantities, covering the bcc and the surrounding area. Needless to say, it burnt like hell, since the wound basically has no skin on it. I applied continuously the whole day, suffering a lot but trying to manage the pain. The wound looked scary, because the iodine very quickly created a large black scab that looked like dead (burnt) tissue. I kept soaking with iodine. The day after, the wound itself was a little more clear than the surrouding area. Kept applying iodine tincture the whole day. Still burns like hell, as now, and in some moments I feel "something" is happening on the wound like feeling a drop that isn't there, or feel like a thousand needles tickling it from the inside. The scab is quite dry, I soak it with iodine, wating for it to get dry again after 10-15 minutes. Then I apply again.
Today I went to work, applied iodine this morning, the wound was black, so it didn't "clear" overnight. I put a loose bandage to let the wound breathe. This evening, back from work, the wound looks WAY scary. The center is a solid and thick scab, surrounded by bubbles, like you may have after a mild-to-severe burn. The bcc itself has astonishingly lowered its height. It's the same level with the rest of the leg skin, while has always been a bump, lately. It's surrounded by these bubbles, which I'm not sure whether to pop with a needle or not. My guts tell me not to do it. I'm "feeling" something is definitely happening, but the pain is awful.
Will keep you guys posted about how it's going, I sure hope it will be another successful story like the one in this thread. I have to admit I'm a little scared.
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Jason79
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Posted - 10/20/2012 : 17:26:38
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| Update. All around the spot now is a big corona bubble/blister. It's like a volcano. Internal scab, still the size of a quarter, thick and lower. The edges however are starting following the profile off the blister, detaching from whatever it's below it. Still hurts with stingy pain, but almost no sensitivity in the area, high sensitivity in the borders, that are painful to touch. Will wait, keep applying iodine, and see. |
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Jason79
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Posted - 10/22/2012 : 04:19:07
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Yesterday the bubble broke, the wound started leaking. Despite the pain I kept applying iodine, the main scab is starting to lift on the borders, the outside area is just dead skin covering the wound now.
The iodine reaching the fresh but still not completely formed "new" skin burnt a lot worse than I could ever expected. I nearly blacked out a couple of times, and had to resort to painkillers (Tramadol) for the first time to be able to sleep.
Is anybody still following this thread? How long did it take for you for the first, second and third scabs to fall? Were the second and third scabs less painful? |
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Carole
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Posted - 10/22/2012 : 10:48:06
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I've been treating my BCC since early august and it looks much, much better, however, at the moment I'm waiting to see what it looks like since most of the scab has come off for the third time on the worst area(don't know if this is good or not but it has seemed so long that I've been working on it that I thought I'd just see what it looked like IF the entire thing will come off, otherwise I'm going to begin putting on the iodine again right away). Mine had been there for probably at least four years so I think that is why it seems to be taking so long. It seems like it must have taken most of two months for the scab to come off the first time but I didn't make note of it.
We are each learning from the experiences of the ones before so I am wishing you the best in your attempt, too! |
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Jason79
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Posted - 10/23/2012 : 05:53:12
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| Thank you so much Carole. This morning I found the original scab completely lifted, after exactly a week of soaking, although the skin below hasn't completely reformed. However, there's new skin even on the wound, something that hasn't been there for a while. Challenge is to see if this new layer will generate an ulcer or not. Put iodine againe, worst pain ever and again painkillers. |
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Mexico
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Posted - 10/23/2012 : 06:52:33
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| Just a quick note here. Yes it probably has to do with size and how much time it has been there. I just did a small one and it only took 3 weeks for 3 scabs to form. It looks very good this morning after stopping the iodine for 3 days. I'll see if it holds. Sometimes a second round is necessary if you stop too early. |
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D.B.Lawton
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Posted - 10/25/2012 : 18:00:55
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Gee.... sorry, Jason. I haven't been on this forum in quite some time.
My experience, if youlook back on my posts was first scab falling off at day 12. Second scab took another 11 days, as did the third and final scab.
Man, if the pain is that intense, you should get Lugol's iodine, which contains no alcohol. It can be easily found on either E-Bay or Amazon.
Carole.... so GLAD to read of YOUR updates! Good for you! Stick with it, and dont give up, y'all! If you have any questions at all... there is a link earlier in this thread directly to Dr. Simoncini's website. What a wonderful man he is! |
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Jason79
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Posted - 10/28/2012 : 13:21:01
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Thank you. The first scab as I said came off after one week, but with the skin underneath not completely formed. Now, after nearly another week, the scab is starting peeling on the outside. Now the scab covers the original bcc only.
The pain has got better, after the first scab came off it was the worst.
I'm still going with the alchoolic solution because what I believe is that basically iodium and alchool basically do a chemical burn on the skin. BCCs are also treated with cryotherapy, which basically burns the tissue. Can't rule out the fungus origin of bcc, but what we're doing here seems to me a controlled chemical burn of the area. Fingers crossed. |
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D.B.Lawton
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Posted - 10/28/2012 : 13:43:50
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The whole treatment idea is that the iodine kills the candida abicans. Many posters here are using Lugol's without the alcohol. I used the alcohol solution, myself. The burning was no big deal to me. Just felt like it was working....lol
Glad to hear that this is working for you. THAT is the bottom line, ain't it? |
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Jason79
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Posted - 10/29/2012 : 17:33:25
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| Totally :) (fingers still crossed, have been and will be for a while) |
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Jason79
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Posted - 11/06/2012 : 16:55:54
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| Now, something strange to report. As Chuck mentioned in his posts, other "dormient" spots rose up. One, about half an inch, came up very soon like a bump and has been treated together with the main one. In the last week I experienced a red spot on the left leg which seems to be disappearing by itself, another "goosebump" irritation on the right leg (but far from where the main bcc is). Also, a little lump in the back of the head, which also looked like a bcc and now I'm also treating with iodine, and another on the jaw, hurting like a big pimple below the skin. Is it possible that with the continuous application of iodine on an open wound, iodine "woke up" other potential bcc spots? I'll see a doctor if these spots don't go away in a couple of days (maybe it's just an allergy reaction, even though I'm not an allergic subject), but just wondering. |
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Jason79
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Posted - 11/25/2012 : 17:41:02
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Well, the bumps disappeared almost completely, except for the one on the head that I've been treating with iodine, I'm still working on that.
The big bump near the original bcc, on the leg has gone. The surrounding area has now mostly healed, leaving no scar, but a round white spot of new skin (I hope it will revert to my skin's color eventually, with time). The second scab fell off leaving just a very little area where the skin is still unformed. I'm still applying iodine there, daily. The third scab is now as big as the original bcc, although when the second fell off, the still-to-heal part was smaller, so it seems to me it's working. The pain has been, for the last two weeks, completely manageable, it just got a little worse each time a scab fell. I'd say that in about two weeks this third one should come off with the skin completely reformed. I hope! |
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D.B.Lawton
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Posted - 11/30/2012 : 23:29:14
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| Glad to hear your success, Jason. I had another spot come up on my face. Same side, but down at the bottom of my cheek. Already had first scab fall off. Waiting for second. Sigh..... at least we know a good cure, huh? |
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Russky
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Posted - 12/02/2012 : 20:43:06
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I'm new. Bear with me folks!
Originally from Russia but living in California.
I got something on my leg for about 6 years. It's yellow when not painted and shiny.
Sore and dripping limpha sometimes. 6 mm in diameter.
Absolutely resisted all my efforts to remove it with 7% iodine before.
After reading Chuck and Lawton discussion I 'saw the light'.
I bought 7% iodine a while ago but used it to cure eczema and keratosis.
Both of those doctor diagnosed. Just peeled off after spraying many times with iodine (but only once daily)
I didn't know anything about treating skin cancer with iodine.
Now I see the trick: painting 3 times a day.
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My neck problem as seen by IPhone. Had it since 1991. Seen many doctors. They see nothing and offer me prozac.
Covered it twice with iodine and got 'iceberg' big time. Hurts a lot. Like Jason. Need painkiller.
Now back to my leg.
So I'm in day 4. 'Iceberg' popped as big as small chicken egg at the store.
Looking at WebMD it's probably keratosis head. BCC underneath, dead skin on top.
Thanks to Carol for brush idea.
Will update.
Cheers!
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D.B.Lawton
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Posted - 12/03/2012 : 18:43:03
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Actually, Russky.... I paint mine on several times each day, carrying the bottle around with me and giving it a good soaking each time. My bottle came with an "eye dropper" on the lid, and I just use that as an applicator, and it works quite well.
Second scab fell off today (great news!) and I am still applying several times a day. Glad you are starting to have good results. Dr. Simoncini deserves the Nobel Prize. It is disgusting what they are doing to him. |
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Jason79
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Posted - 12/08/2012 : 16:22:58
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Keep up the good work, Russky, after some time, the pain gets manageable. If the wound is bigger, it will hurt more.
Mine now is completely covered with new skin, whoa! However, there's still 4-5 very little "hot" spots, in a very little area (smaller tan the original bcc), so I'll start a new treatment, it should take way less. Skin is still peeling every 1-2 days, and the whole area is not "clear" yet.
Something I noticed while trying to snap a picture, is that a cellphone camera is GREAT in showing the real extent of the healing process.
If you turn the phone camera flash-led on, and point it to the wound, it would reveal MUCH better than the eyes, the parts of the skin that healed, and the parts that are still "in progress".
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Russky
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Posted - 12/10/2012 : 14:58:24
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Update day 12. Not much happening. Leather like appearance. Angry period and icebergs are over.
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quote:
Originally posted by Russky
I'm new. Bear with me folks!
Originally from Russia but living in California.
I got something on my leg for about 6 years. It's yellow when not painted and shiny.
Sore and dripping limpha sometimes. 6 mm in diameter.
Absolutely resisted all my efforts to remove it with 7% iodine before.
After reading Chuck and Lawton discussion I 'saw the light'.
I bought 7% iodine a while ago but used it to cure eczema and keratosis.
Both of those doctor diagnosed. Just peeled off after spraying many times with iodine (but only once daily)
I didn't know anything about treating skin cancer with iodine.
Now I see the trick: painting 3 times a day.
Uploaded with [URL=http://imageshack.us]ImageShack.us[/URL]![]()
My neck problem as seen by IPhone. Had it since 1991. Seen many doctors. They see nothing and offer me prozac.
Covered it twice with iodine and got 'iceberg' big time. Hurts a lot. Like Jason. Need painkiller.
Now back to my leg.
So I'm in day 4. 'Iceberg' popped as big as small chicken egg at the store.
Looking at WebMD it's probably keratosis head. BCC underneath, dead skin on top.
Thanks to Carol for brush idea.
Will update.
Cheers!
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Edited by - Russky on 12/10/2012 15:59:04 |
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Russky
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Posted - 12/12/2012 : 00:51:33
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quote:
Originally posted by Russky
Update day 12. Not much happening. Leather like appearance. Angry period and icebergs are over.
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quote:
Originally posted by Russky
I'm new. Bear with me folks!
Originally from Russia but living in California.
I got something on my leg for about 6 years. It's yellow when not painted and shiny.
Sore and dripping limpha sometimes. 6 mm in diameter.
Absolutely resisted all my efforts to remove it with 7% iodine before.
After reading Chuck and Lawton discussion I 'saw the light'.
I bought 7% iodine a while ago but used it to cure eczema and keratosis.
Both of those doctor diagnosed. Just peeled off after spraying many times with iodine (but only once daily)
I didn't know anything about treating skin cancer with iodine.
Now I see the trick: painting 3 times a day.
Uploaded with [URL=http://imageshack.us]ImageShack.us[/URL]![]()
My neck problem as seen by IPhone. Had it since 1991. Seen many doctors. They see nothing and offer me prozac.
Covered it twice with iodine and got 'iceberg' big time. Hurts a lot. Like Jason. Need painkiller.
Now back to my leg.
So I'm in day 4. 'Iceberg' popped as big as small chicken egg at the store.
Looking at WebMD it's probably keratosis head. BCC underneath, dead skin on top.
Thanks to Carol for brush idea.
Will update.
Cheers!
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Russky
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Posted - 12/12/2012 : 01:06:17
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Day 15 update
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First scab fell off. Red spot about 2 mm survived. I took picture with flash and promptly covered spot with 7% iodine. |
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Russky
19 Posts |
Posted - 12/25/2012 : 23:00:39
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Well, second scab is still there. Dark and resisting. 12 days old.
Total 28 days of iodine covering. About 5 of the heads appeared in my wide margin. Now they go through iceberg period.
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Edited by - Russky on 12/25/2012 23:33:55 |
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D.B.Lawton
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Posted - 01/02/2013 : 08:37:09
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| I am interested to see the finished product, Russky. Especially in this case. This should definitely prove to any doubters that Dr. Simoncini's treatment is the real deal. It will be nice to see you cleared up, and healthy again. |
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TheWind777
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Posted - 01/09/2013 : 10:31:25
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I would like to get back to everybody seeing that I used Iodine extensively on 'liver spots', facial 'psoriasis' (now I would say that it was probably a dermal fungus) which had gotten to itch really bad, was quite bright-red and covered the sinus area of my face, and thick pad-like spots on my arms which can be scraped-off with my fingers if I try hard enough.
The last time I spoke it was 07/17/2011 and it is now 01/09/13.
First, iodine applied ten to 15 times-a-day is how it is done. Know, though, that this might not be a safe thing to do. You better have a really bad problem. Don't just willy-nilly paint iodine on yourself. Christine was doing that. She put iodine on the white spot on her arm for about a year. She now has hypothyroidism where her TSH values around around 4 and she's taking pills to try and bring it down. She doesn't have Hashimoto Syndrome (if she did, the iodine treatments would have probably been disastrous to her.
Also, she was using iodine to try and get a brown spot off her face. It is still there, the 1/2" white spot is still there.
Whether she would have gotten the hypothyroidism without having put on all that iodine is unknown. But, if you already have a problem with hypothyroidism... don't use repeated iodine and don't be super-vigilant with it.
From my own experience, I had mixed experience. It did incredibly well on the 'psoriasis' on my face. I now use only hydrogen peroxide when it starts to turn a bit pink or starts being a bit scaly; and that backs-it-off again. Didn't get rid of it, but certainly stopped the incredibly-itcy nature of it. I would say it was 90 percent good at getting rid of that.
As far as spots go, if you paint it on your arm... then spots appear that you didn't even know were there. You then apply it on those spots and they (eventually) go away. However, afterwards, a dark spot remains. I'm glad it's my arm and not my face because I would now have dark spots on my face and not just on my arm.
Also, it seems to aggravate some spots. It seems to make them grow where they weren't growing before. They seem to go away, then in a few months they grow back (worse than they were before).
At other times it makes them go away forever. Most times it will leave a permanent brown spot where it occurred that doesn't go away with further application. It is just a brown spot afterwards. Don't use it on your face, then.
I am, right at this moment, coating some spots on my right arm; so, obviously, I do still think it works better than anything else I've ever tried (nothing else doesn't anything) and don't worry about getting hypothyoidism. I think it was just a coincidence that she got high TSH numbers, probably unrelated to her applications.
In her case, nobody ever said the white patch even COULD be gotten rid of. It wasn't what people typically try and get rid of. It's definitely better than it was. It is more like normal skin and less like a white patch.
The spot on her face is about the same as it was before.
In my own case, my skin literally burns. It is like the iodine burns me. That didn't occur with her. That's probably why it works with me. It's like I'm getting a chemical peel. Afterwards the skin peels-off and nice skin is below.
For those who say they're applying it twice-a-day or such. It does nothing if you just do it a couple-times-a-day. You might as well be putting water on it. You have to coat it at least 10 times to see the effect (and you definitely will see effects, depending on whether it is something that iodine will get rid of).
If you were to ask me? I think they're wrong about psoriasis. I now think that psoriasis, and any other thing that you use iodine on and it goes away is actually some kind of unknown organism such as a fungus, yeast, or micobacteria (or even some other living thing that they haven't identified yet). Either that or it is a virus... that's why it comes back again.
Their concept that the body is fighting itself is basically crap. I think the body is fighting itself because THERE'S SOMETHING THERE AND THE BODY CAN'T GET RID OF IT SO IT JUST STARTS FIGHTING ANYTHING, INCLUDING YOUR BODY.
Medicine is definitely NOT science. They pretend they're science when they're ALL just quackery. Their tools are flawed. Medicines are not created by caring people and aren't really created by scientists. They're created by chemists and because they are creatd by companies, there is no heart in it. They just want to get money. They don't care that something gives you 37 different 'side-effects'.
I think simple remedies work better than complex chemical remedies. I would rather use a simple thing like iodine, or lemon juice, or tea tree oil, or oregano oil, or salt than use all their toxic chemicals.
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Russky
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Posted - 01/11/2013 : 16:40:19
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Hi thewind777,
I read the whole board. Nice of you to update us.
I can chime in as foreigner from country with heavy iodine use. Nobody ever developed any complications from iodine use on my watch.
And I was medically trained including internship at cancer hospital. My mom was big user of iodine. She died at 72 from stroke never suffering any side effects from iodine. I thought it was unsafe but facts speak for themselves. She was right. Iodine was safe.
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Russky
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Posted - 01/16/2013 : 18:09:33
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Hi Mr. Lawton,
Today was a big day. After 7 weeks of applying iodine scab #3 fell off. Alliluia! White clear skin, no sign of original 'head'. As a bonus varicose vein next to 'head' is gone too.
Dr. Simonchini is genius. My mom never succeded with iodine because she was using 2% iodine. 5% Lugol was sold without prescription but we had no clue to use it on skin. Pediatrician prescribed me Lugol but only to cover strepthroat glands area inside my throat. It was mixed with glycerin.
You and Chuck broke through layers of my prejudice toward iodine as being ineffective.
Thanks a lot!
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Here is picture of my original 'keratosis head' as it looks today.
Head is gone!
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Toni5671
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Posted - 01/21/2013 : 08:56:25
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| I purchased Lugol's on Amazon and just noticed that it says 2% on the label. Can I use that since I already have it or did I just waste my money? |
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Russky
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Posted - 01/21/2013 : 15:53:49
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| Toni5671 Not to ignore you I'll say I don't have opinion on 2% Lugol. My mom was using ethyl alcohol based iodine tincture. |
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Russky
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Posted - 01/22/2013 : 18:07:53
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Jason79, I agree with you. Chemical peel it is for my kind of skin problem.
I was reading somewhere that atom of iodine has characteristics that confuse bacteria into thinking it's atom of oxygen. Iodine clogs their oxygen receptors and bacteria dies.
Iodine probably has more than one action to produce dramatic results like Mr. Lawton's.
Probably chokes candida too. Just thinking aloud.
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Toni5671
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Posted - 01/23/2013 : 15:47:14
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| Wondering if anyone can tell me where to purchase the clear 12% iodine that Lawson mentioned. Thank you |
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D.B.Lawton
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Russky
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Toni5671
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Posted - 01/25/2013 : 16:37:45
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| Thank you. Wasn't sure if there was a difference in quality since some versions were way cheaper than others but didn't want to take any chances so I ordered the more expensive SSKI Wweetwater stuff from UK. |
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Lily44
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Posted - 01/26/2013 : 00:05:25
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Did you ever use the clear iodine, or did you stick with the colored iodine?
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Hey Russky! Hurray! Good for you!!! I am SO glad that this worked for you!
Toni: Here is the link to the 12% iodine:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/120955610801?_trksid=p5197.c0.m619
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D.B.Lawton
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Posted - 02/17/2013 : 23:20:03
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| I myself used the 7% Tincture of Iodine (alcohol based). Burned like hell, but did the trick. |
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Toni5671
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Posted - 02/18/2013 : 07:18:11
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| I used the weaker J. Crows Lugols Solution 2%. I thought I had ordered the 5% but I guess not. Anyhow, I sent away for the 12% white iodine and I like it better because its clear but I honestly don't think it works any better. |
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anivoc
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Posted - 02/18/2013 : 09:24:36
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I myself used the 7% Tincture of Iodine (alcohol based). Burned like hell, but did the trick.
Hey DB I know the burned like hell thing with my concoction but to be clear, after application how long did it burn for you? Again for me certainly bad for the first few minutes but at least in my case subsides after about 5 minutes...do you agree? |
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D.B.Lawton
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Posted - 02/18/2013 : 18:40:43
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| Oh.... so the clear also burned? Hmm.... I tell ya... that 7% tincture burned.... and burned longer that 5 minutes. In fact, that was when I knew that it was time to re-apply..... when it quit....lol. Hell man, I been roofing houses for 36 years.... I reckon pain is just a part of accepted life, to me. |
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Russky
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Jason79
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Posted - 02/24/2013 : 11:36:41
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Always great to hear about successful stories.
Mine is still going on, positively, I think. After nearly 4 months and 4 iodine application cycles, my wound seems to on its way. It's now completely covered by skin (has never been since I had the bcc), however it had "hot spots" under the very fragile skin for quite a while. I can still see a darker shade of pink under the new skin, and unsure whether it's part of the healing or a residue of the bcc. I'll wait for the surrounding area to completely heal before trying a new series of applications. The treatment left me a very large "scar", it's like when you burn yourself with the muffler of a motorcycle. The surrounding area is still darker, but healing. The pink spot in the middle is covered in skin, and about the size of... don't know.... like one of the buttons of a cordless phone. It took MUCH time to get to this point, but my bcc developed to the state of a big ulcer, the size of a quarter. |
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logicman
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Posted - 03/08/2013 : 15:32:59
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Some observations since my last post.
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The formula is
7 grams iodine
5 grams potassium iodide
5 mls distilled water
alchool to reach 25 mls
All the best
Tullio Simoncini
I just noticed that this formula is not a 7% lugols that you can purchase at
http://www.ebay.com/sch/the_full_orchestra/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=25&_trksid=p3686
It is much stronger wrt I2 (iodine).
7% lugols has 7g I2 in a 100 mL solution.
dr Simoncini's has 7g I2 in only 25 mL solution. This is 4 times stronger wrt I2.
Regarding KI (potassium iodide): 7% lugols contains 14g KI in 100 mL solution.
dr Simoncini's has 5g KI in 25 mL. This is 1.42 times stronger wrt potassium iodide.
I see now why Simoncini had to add some alcohol to his 5 mL of distilled water. The iodine (I2) will not dissolve in water with that concentration and proportion to KI.
Iodine (I2) does not dissolve in H2O. You either use alcohol, some other solvent or, as Lugol's discovered before the Civil War, you mix in "enough" KI to dissolve the whole mix in distilled water. Up to around 7% I2 concentration, "enough" is twice as much KI.
I made 100 mL of 7% lugols using chemicals available at full orchestra. I put 7 g I2 and 14g KI in a mason jar and added around 79 mL distilled H2O. Let sit overnight and stirred it up. You can google how to make lugols and watch a U-tube.
For treating skin cancer lesions I now cover the lesion with DMSO first before applying the 7% lugols. DMSO is penetration enhancer and anti inflammatory.
Below is a quote from the DMSO group at Yahoo. Note, he used I2 not KI. Note also the last sentence.
"I have used two different elements to treat squamous cell skin cancer, tagemet pill, anti acid from wally world, dissolved into a paste with adrop of water, and mixed with tsp dmso, and applied several times a day. I also have used elemental iodine, which is iodine crystals dissolved in drinking alcohol, at about a five percent mix, followed w/ dmso several times a day. Both worked equally well.
I have both basal cell and squamous cell carcinoma, and *not* melanoma.
Interesting thought that dmso may work alone, I shall give that a try next time I get one. I live in wes tex a lot of sun here daily, seen a lot of ol cowboys w/ half their ears cut off, noses and faces botched up with surgery. sad it does make me. It is very simple to use the two above procedures, no surgery, no freezing, and with a lighter wallet, None of which that I removed were dxed, but on the other hand, that is the left hand, I have had some twenty to thirty burned or cut off that were dxed, so I believe what I removed myself were the real deal, When my immune system, white blood cells fall below three thousand, I begin getting skin cancer, so ultimately the responsibly of the immune system be the cause of my skin cancer."
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logicman
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Posted - 03/08/2013 : 15:48:41
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regarding gloe's post of 8/8/2012 quoted below
Can you mention docs name and elaborate on his cancer prevent/treatment protocol?
I have started using the enzymes 15 twice a day. I got this from the Kelley/Gonzalez protocol. Google: One answer to cancer.
"My alternative doctor (actually a well known alternative cancer doctor in NYC, who I have been seeing for almost 20 years for chronic fatigue syndrome) recommends the vit c paste treatment. You make a paste from vit C (ascorbic acid powder) put it on in the a.m., leave it all day; wash it off in the p.m., and reapply paste. Keep it on all night and repeat for a total of 7 days. He also recommends taking 10 caps of pork pancreas (Allergy Research Group brand) 3 times a day on an empty stomach. It must be on an empty stomach. If you take pancreas with food, all it will do is help digest your food. I wait at least 2 hours before/after a meal to take pancreatic enzyme caps. If I wake up in the middle of the night, I get up and take more. |
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jpwonders
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Posted - 03/11/2013 : 22:51:50
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Just came upon this thread last nite. I had googled Dr. S's iodine treatment. Some good info. Keeping the bc's away has been a loosing battle since I was diagnosed. At first I had monthly cryo sessions at a clinic, after having one surgically removed. This surgery left me w/ painful nerve damage and filing for disability in 09. It also triggered fibromyalgia and a whole host of health stuff. The pain still shoots thru the area where the the surgery was and is like being stabbed w/ a big knife. I don't leave the house, if someone touched me there and they have, it becomes ER time and weeks of severe pain. I will never be cut again!!! If that means death so be it.
What has been working for me is C-herb, but can only treat 1 area at a time. AS I treat one 2 more come up. I no longer have access to the cryo treatments and all they do here is cut cryo is not in their vocabulary-only cutting, so this sounds good. I have a severe thyroid condition and am not to have iodine products. I worry about using this wonderful treatment due to the iodine I would absorb.
I wonder though if the baking soda peroxide paste would be beneficial to me instead. There is 3% they sell at the drug store and 20% food grade they sell at the health market. Which one would work in the paste?
I'd prefer the 3% as it's easier and cheaper to come by and I don't have to worry about being burned by the bottle seeping.
I bought a can of what is essentially histofreeze [cryo in a can used by some clinics], but a better brand that was mailed out to me today, so I can freeze if needed, the areas I can't hit w/ c-herb, but still, freezing is not as natural as say baking soda. So I would prefer to figure out best way to use baking soda paste. |
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Toni5671
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Posted - 03/12/2013 : 08:50:40
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I began my journey with this forum a couple months ago when I discovered that I had a very small lesion on my chest. It was like a scab that wouldn't go away. I remembered seeing Dr S on Doug Kaufman's TV show called Know the Cause which teaches how cancer is a fungus and how we need to stay away from all refined, processed foods because those are the kinds of foods that the cancer feeds off of.
I am a relatively healthy 41 year old. I'm very active, I run marathons and have been eating a mostly vegetarian diet for the past few years but, to be completely honest, I still found myself indulging in the processed garbage and comfort foods quite regularly. Let's face it, ice cream and potato chips taste good! However, upon discovering my lesion, I realized that my skin was an outward manifestation that my body was not as healthy as I had hoped. I knew that I needed to get serious about what I was putting in my body because you are, after all, what you eat!
About the same time I started treating my lesion with Lugol's iodine, I also started researching diet and nutrition because I was not just interested in making the lesion go away, I wanted to make my body a cancer fighting machine to insure that no type of cancer would ever come back again!
This is where I'm going to bombard you with information that, if you take the time to immerse yourself in it and make the necessary changes as I did, you will find hope and healing for your body...
There are lots of interesting documentaries that discuss the topic of how diet is directly related to the 2 biggest killers of the western world: heart disease and cancer. If you have NetFlix or Amazon Prime, look up the documentary Forks Over Knives. It is compelling and life changing. I would also highly recommend Food.inc, Food Matters, Hungry For Change, and Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead. Along with those documentaries, I would also highly recommend the books "The China Study" and "Healthy at 100".
I can't say that I agree 100% with all the dietary advice given in every one of these publications but it's definitely a giant step in the right direction. I currently follow a very strict diet of 100% raw fruits and veggies. Most people would say that my diet is a bit extreme but I would suggest that dying of cancer or having your chest cut open for a coronary bypass is EXTREME. Since reading the book The 80/10/10 Diet and adopting it's 100% raw vegan lifestyle, I have never felt better. It's so liberating to know that, if I feed my body the nutrients it requires, it will not only function optimally but it can prevent all sorts of chronic illness/disease and actually reverse many of the signs of aging along with whatever ill health I have suffered as a result of the years of abusing my body with the Standard American Diet.
Just remember, there are no shortcuts or miracle cures. It takes day after day, month after month, year after year, etc. of making the right decisions in a world where comfort and convenience reigns supreme. This is a BATTLE, it's a battle for your life and vitality, but the good news is it's winnable! So fight and fight hard that you may come out victorious!
Here are a few little teasers to get you started on your journey to wellness:
http://www.chrisbeatcancer.com/the-raw-vegan-diet/
http://health101.org/art_cancer_vitamin_D.htm
http://gerson.org/gerpress/the-gerson-therapy/ |
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logicman
7 Posts |
Posted - 03/13/2013 : 15:35:19
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re: " I have a severe thyroid condition and am not to have iodine products. I worry about using this wonderful treatment due to the iodine I would absorb.
If you read the files at the Yahoo iodine group, you will find info from dr Abramham re 10-12% absorbable for transdermal I2.
http://www.optimox.com/pics/Iodine/updates/UNIOD-02/UNIOD_02.htm
Other files suggest that lugols is helpful for the thyroid by pushing out floride and bromide. I am on thyroid meds and have built up to 50 mg per Day of I2/KI. I feel it helps with cancer.
I also use enzymes learned about from dr-Gonzalez.com, reading his books and listening to MP3 lectures by him.
I try to eat as much grass fed meat as I can, since one of his cases indicated he puts all his melanoma patients on red meat.
Note for a different tumor type cancer, dr G may recommend a vegetarian diet. It depends on your ancestrial type. Google One Answer to Cancer for more free info on this protocol.
Detox is my current exploration area. Also reading Brian Peskin's info and may back off the high fish oil I have been using. A bloodtest showed that my arachidonic acid was very low. This confirms one point Peskin raises. |
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trueson
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Posted - 04/12/2013 : 21:41:13
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I have a BCC on the edge of my lower eyelid on the outer skin surface and it also wraps around and continues to the inside of the eyelid a little.
I tried a Vitamin C solution on the outer BCC for a few weeks but it seemed to have little effect so I changed to a 5% Lugols solution on the outer BCC and a sodium bicarbonate solution on the inner BCC as recommended by Dr Simoncini on his website.
Initially I had big problems trying to apply the Lugols so close to the eyeball as my eye would sting and water profusely almost immediately and apart from being quite painful it also washed away the iodine.
I thought that maybe my eyelashes were spreading the iodine to my eyeball when I blinked so I removed the upper and lower eyelashes around the effected area (I have read that these will grow back in 7-8 weeks). But this did little to help.
So then I thought that maybe it was the fumes from the iodine that were floating up to the eyeball from the treated area, so I tried lying down on the floor so the fumes would float straight up and not into the eyeball, closing my eyes to protect them still more, and asking my partner to apply the iodine. This has done the trick! No more tearing up! I also apply the sodium bicarbonate solution whilst lying down at a different time of the day so it doesn't wash away the iodine.
If you are living alone it would be more difficult to use this method but still possible. My partner uses an LED 'miners' light strapped to her forehead (looks quite funny) which allows her to use one hand to pull down the eyelid a little and the other to apply the iodine with a tiny paint brush. If doing it alone you would need to position a table lamp exactly, hold a mirror with one hand and the brush with the other whilst pulling the eyelid down with your pinky from the hand holding the brush.
I've been applying the iodine for 3 weeks now and it has just started to form the first scab, so two more scabs to go. No real outcome yet but it looks promising.
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iodine therapy by Dr. Tullio Simoncini
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