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Niagarafalls1

USA
3 Posts

Posted - 04/09/2012 :  16:13:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
After reading through most of the posts, whats unclear to me is when you're applying the iodine solution 20-30 times a day, are you supposed to clean/wash/sanitize the area/lesion before reapplying the iodine again and again. Or does just cleaning up the area in the morning sufficient enough?
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Chuck

41 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2012 :  08:54:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I posted a detailed treatment method on this blog you might consider following. You do not apply iodine 20-30 times a day. Usually a few times will work fine.

Chuck
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Niagarafalls1

USA
3 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2012 :  13:14:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Chuck,

Thanks for responding. I did check through your detailed treatment method and I understand 20-30 times a day for applying the iodine is a bit excessive and your opinion of 3-5 times daily will work fine. But what's still unclear to me is after the first treatment of iodine in the morning, do you wash/sanitize the area for the 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th treatments or do you just keep applying the iodine over the last coat? Any info would be much appreciated.

Thanks Kevin
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Chuck

41 Posts

Posted - 04/11/2012 :  08:49:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Kevin,

My iodine treatments would be layered over each other without re-cleansing each time. I only washed the area once a day. You need the iodine to soak deeply into the tissues. Plus. it's crucial you keep the skin DRY. Some on this blog didn't follow that recommendation and I believe it affected the outcome. The drier you keep the tissue, the more deeply the iodine is absorbed. Very important detail.

Sincerely,
Chuck
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Niagarafalls1

USA
3 Posts

Posted - 04/11/2012 :  10:36:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey Chuck,

I understand and thank you once again for the info.

Kevin
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Carole

15 Posts

Posted - 08/05/2012 :  15:09:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm new here - just recently discovered this information and want to say that I've completely read through it and this has given me the courage to treat the BCC on my nose. Unfortunately, the cancer has been there for several years and I've not been able to deal with it as I had transitional cell cancer several years ago, lost a kidney and have never recovered afterwards. Now I am gaining some real insight into what most likely has taken place in my body. I am still dealing with the devastating effects of the antibiotic Levaquin used during the first procedure. (Unbeknown to me, it already had a black box warning but the doctor never gave me this information.) The very next day veins broke on a leg, my head felt like it was going to explode and I felt like I might have a heart attack. I also believe that the severe nerve damage in my feet developed since are effects of the drug. Soon after the procedure, I developed an extreme case of insomnia that I'm still dealing with and as badly as I hate drugs I've been on them to get any sleep, yet I feel as though I haven't slept in months!
I simply couldn't deal with the BCC, although I finally did have it diagnosed last winter. I know that if I did the Mohs surgery I probably wouldn't have much of a nose left so I have gotten the courage to do iodine after reading everything here.
Wondering if anyone is still here since the last post was about four months ago. I really appreciated the detailed explainations that Chuck has given and I thank him and everyone here for your posts. Know that it has given one more person courage!
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D.B.Lawton

USA
22 Posts

Posted - 08/06/2012 :  15:53:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Carole,

My name is Darryl, and I am also new here. I have read every post on this forum. Chuck's info has really given me courage, too. I had a spot on my face, on my right cheek. It was just a small red spot that would show up more prominently after a day in the sun (I have been roofing houses for 35 years), and when I touched the spot with my finger, it felt like there were tiny cactus needles sticking in me on the spot on my face. I did a search on the symptoms, and after some searching, I found some images that looked nearly identical to mine, and these folks also had the cactus needle description. The culprit was most likely actinic keratoses, and the info I got was that it is a precursor to squamous cell carcinoma, or basal cell carcinoma.
I searched for days, and came upon Dr. Simoncini's discovery, and the iodine cure. There are a LOT of people calling Dr. Simoncini a 'quack'. One of these people is the user here that calls himself BEATIS.
I have found over the past several years, and as I am a member of the Natural Cures website that the mainstream medical world here in the U.S. is a sham. The normal, business-as-usual method here is not to CURE anyone (no money in curing folks), but to MANAGE people's sickness by treating symptoms, and draining people and their insurance companies' wallets. Any true CURE is demonized, villified, and called B.S. by defenders of mainstream medicine. Thus, it just struck home with me that Dr. Simoncini lost his license because he simply pissed some people off by publishing his findings, and cutting into the PROFITS of those that use traditional cancer therapies.

Anyway, I was down to two choices to treat my spot. One was bloodroot salve, which is what is called an 'escharotic'. I researched that option, saw photos that document the treatment, and did not want to go with that for something on my face. The other was the iodine. SO.... I have been using the iodine (7% tincture from Pure Health Solutions) that I found on E-Bay. It stings for a while, as it is 7% iodine, 5% potassium iodide, distilled water and ethanol. It says it contains 50% alcohol. The pain is bearable, though. I have been using this for 8 days, now. There is a thick crust scab formed, and I am patiently waiting for it to fall off. I became worried because it seemed that it was never going to come off, but after reading Chuck's posts, I have renewed faith in this treatment. I actually have posted a photo on my Facebook page of what the spot looked like before the treatment, and what it now looks like, and I look forward to posting the 'after'' photos.
I believe in this treatment. It makes sense to me.

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Chuck

41 Posts

Posted - 08/06/2012 :  17:04:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Darryl,

I totally agree with every word you said - awesome post! I wanted to mention a couple of things related to your post. First, I researched who BEATIS is and it appears she's a well-known author and a breast cancer survivor. I think she's embittered by some previous experiences involvinmg quackery. While I share her resentment towards those taking advantage of othes' misfortune, I direct that anger to not only the non-professional quacks but also the professional ones as well.

Dr. Simoncini has been vilified as you so astutely explained. He was "caught taking money" for helping someone with their treatments. He made all of $400 acting as their counselor / advocate when they were being treated. He couldn't personally perform the treatment because the Italian medical board stripped him of his license after he began to expose the near-futility of conventional cancer treatments. So after he was stripped of his license and a good income, he continues to help others by acting as their advocate. And his crime? Taking $400 to cover his time and try to make a minimal income. If this man was in it for the money, he would have turned his back on the "FUNGUS CURE" and let people die while he used a much larger income to fatten his nest. This man was a licensed pediatric oncologist watching helpless children die after doing everything "per the book". After crying out to God for an answer because he couldn't stand to watch it anymore, the Lord revealed the CANCER - FUNGUS CONNECTION.

My daughter's home somehow manifested a mold. A mold is a form of fungus. When it was discovered, they tore out the sheetrock, cabinets, ceiling, baseboards, etc. Why? Because mold is deadly and they could have gotten seriously ill from mold (fungus). The people that eradicated it wore full bodysuits, masks, boots and gloves. The medical establishment says "that's a wise treatment". Yet the same people that agree with that, turn a blind eye to the fungal problems associated with skin cancer, gingivitis, uterine cancer, yeast infections, breat cancers, prostate cancer, colon cancer, and on and on the list goes.

So let's break it down. Fungus, mold and yeast are very similar. They colonize and devouor their host. Our immune system and healthy biotics attempt to keep them in check. But if your immune system is impaired or through ANTI-biotics we kill the good guys, the Candida begins to flourish. Once it reaches critical mass, it takes over that area of flesh and destroys it. That's why cancer and HIV / AIDS victims often have thrush, cold sores and skin cancers.

One of the few things that kills Candida is iodine. The Japanese living in Hiroshima and Nagasaki have a lower cancer rate than the average US citizen. Why? Because they learned that kelp contains iodine and they consume about 25 - 50 50 times the iodine that we do. The Japanese "get it". It's why they cornered the market on iodine when they had the nuclear reactor meltdown. They bought millions of tablets and instructed their people to take it.

What does our government do? They labeled iodine a "controlled substance" and sellers have to register who's buying and how much they buy. The US removed iodine from our salt and replaced iodine in our bread with bromide which is a harmful additive. Why? Because a bottle of Lugols 5% iodine costs $13 - $25 per bottle and I've used 1 bottle to cure 7 skin cancers over the past 2+ years. The Big Pharma guys lost thousands of dollers by not cutting on me, lasering me, chemo-ing me, etc.

I look forward to the day when American doctors do exactly what Dr, Simoncini did - take a stand, tell the AMA, FDA and Big Pharma to go to hell. And then use these effective treatments to save lives.

I prau I see that day.

Sincerely,
Chuck Frazier

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D.B.Lawton

USA
22 Posts

Posted - 08/06/2012 :  18:27:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Chuck,

Thanks for the fast response. Some of the things that you said were a little funny to me. You mentioned the AMA (American Medical Association). Most people think that the AMA exists to protect people from bad doctors. Nothing could be further from the truth. The AMA exists for one reason, and one reason only: to protect the PROFITS of its members! That is the reason that you will NEVER see ANY type of a CURE for cancer.! It would cut into the profits of the AMA's members. As for the FDA, forget them. Anyone that believes that the FDA protects American citizens is very foolish. The FDA has approved so many drugs that have killed people by the hundreds of thousands..... It is unbelievable. Whistleblowers are these people's, as well as Big Pharma's #1 enemies. That is what Dr. Simoncini is: a whistleblower. That is why I decided to try his treatment.


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D.B.Lawton

USA
22 Posts

Posted - 08/08/2012 :  20:01:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sigh...... started not to post, but changed my mind, after thinking that perhaps someone will read these posts later, as I did Chuck's posts, and find some hope in them.
STILL waiting for the scab to fall off. It seems like maybe it won't.... but I know that I am probably just being impatient. Also, I am not applying the iodine 20 -30 times in the morning and 20-30 times in the evening. I keep the bottle with me, and apply it using the dropper that came with the bottle, until the scab is completely wet, and I am doing this about ten times a day. As a note, I can see as I apply the iodine, that it runs down behind the scab, and comes out a little along the bottom of the scab, so it is definitely getting to the skin under the scab..... but this is day 10 and the scab is still there..... sigh. It is thick, and ugly, and about the size of a quarter. I wish it was gone already. I will continue to apply the iodine, and wait.

Edited by - D.B.Lawton on 08/08/2012 20:06:04
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Chuck

41 Posts

Posted - 08/08/2012 :  20:17:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Darryl,

I strongly urge you to print out the specific guidelines I posted. First, you should be using Lugols 5% WATER-BASED iodine and not the extremely painful alcohol-based tincture.

Second, do NOT apply it 20 - 30 imes a day. I have no idea who posted that, but it's rediculous. You should only be applying the Lugols about 3 - 5 times per day.

Third, it will take time. I carefully explain in my guidelines thjat it will take weeks for the process. You won;t have just one scab fall off. You may have 3 or more. That's because the iodine heals in LAYERS. That means the underlying layers are healed and then the upper layers are healed. That's how you prevent scarring.

So please go to my guidelines and print that out and keep it next to your counter where the ioodine is stored. The biggest frustration with this blog format is that some people didn't follow the method that was successful for me and then complained it didn't work. It will work if you follow it and allow your body to heal.

Chuck
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Carole

15 Posts

Posted - 08/08/2012 :  21:52:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've been trying to follow the instructions by Chuck on 7/5/2010 by applying the iodine about six times per day hoping that was enough. Is it really sufficient to apply 3-5 times per day? I purchased a small flat brush (paint brush) from a hobby store and that works very well for me. It doesn't seem to run very easily and stays where you "paint" it on. After I began putting the iodine on, making sure to cover the surrounding area, I began to see that the area of cancer was larger than it originally appeared. I have basically covered almost my entire nose!

I've found that as the layers of iodine are applied (around the perimiter) that eventually they come loose and separate from the skin. (I've used scissors to cut them once they come up so that I don't damage the area where the cancer is. The area where the cancers are continues to get much thicker. I'm prepared to wait it out as mine have been there for several years, especially the largest one. Once I began painting the area I found there were additional smaller spots that appear to be cancerous as it has gotten very dark and raised, too.

I might mention that I've been using the 5% iodine now and I really believe that it doesn't hurt as much as the Humco I began with even though my husband tells me they are exactly the same thing! The only difference I can see is that the Humco Lugal's solution product does not state the percentage of water used and the J.C. Crow's Lugal's product states 85% water; otherwise, both products state 10% potassium iodide and 5% iodine.
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gloe

124 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2012 :  09:11:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi all. Chuck, thanks for all the work you put into this topic. I am trying a variation of your iodine protocol, first using a vit C paste to create a scab, then soaking the scab with SSKI (a clear form of iodine) a few times a day until the scab falls off. Then repeat and retreat until I am satisfied with the results. Posted here: http://www.topicalinfo.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1265

gloe
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D.B.Lawton

USA
22 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2012 :  09:55:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ha! Ha! Ha! I reckon I like the stinging, Chuck! It FEELS like it's working.... LOL!

The instructions that I got were from the very first site I learned about this treatment from, and here is what it said there:

"If the lesions are fairly small, they must be painted with the solution 10-20-30 times twice a day for five days and then once for another ten days so that they become very dark. When a scab (a skin crust) forms, it is necessary to continue to paint the iodine under and above it, even if at first this causes a sharp pain.

"This needs to be repeated when the second scab forms. At this point, the lesion may be considered destroyed, because after the third cycle it is possible to reach the center of the neoplasia, which is the last strong hold of the colonies.

"When a tumor is large it is necessary to perform a cycle of infiltrations below the skin with sodium bicarbonate at five per cent solution. This liberates the tissue from the possible invasion of the deep planes and of the basal lamina before performing the treatment with iodine solution. If this is not done, we risk the fungus, once destroyed at a superficial level, defending itself by trespassing into those levels where a conclusive action of the iodine solution is impossible."

These are supposedly Dr. Simoncini's direct instructions, and can be seen at: http://www.lifeenergysolutions.com/blog/skin-cancer-cure/

@ Carole: Bless your heart, honey..... I know how you feel. I never imagined that the spot on my face, originally thought to be about half the size of my pinky nail, came out large as a quarter! I am hoping that in my case, the infiltrations with bicarbonate of soda were not necessary. Otherwise, I may be forced to use the bloodroot paste.
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gloe

124 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2012 :  12:59:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by D.B.Lawton



"When a tumor is large it is necessary to perform a cycle of infiltrations below the skin with sodium bicarbonate at five per cent solution. This liberates the tissue from the possible invasion of the deep planes and of the basal lamina before performing the treatment with iodine solution. If this is not done, we risk the fungus, once destroyed at a superficial level, defending itself by trespassing into those levels where a conclusive action of the iodine solution is impossible."

These are supposedly Dr. Simoncini's direct instructions, and can be seen at: http://www.lifeenergysolutions.com/blog/skin-cancer-cure/




Maybe mixing with DMSO would allow deeper penetration of the iodine. Dr, Jonathan Writght recommends mixing SSKI form of iodine with DMSO for topical applications. http://tahomaclinicblog.com/iodide/

gloe [See my post under "Vit C + SSKI" for the treatment I am following (not mixing with DMSO though.)]

Edited by - gloe on 08/09/2012 13:00:09
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D.B.Lawton

USA
22 Posts

Posted - 08/10/2012 :  10:57:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Okay! The first scab FINALLY fell off on Day 11 or 12. The edges were slightly raised, and loose, and I helped it VERY LITTLE, and it nearly dropped off.... it was held by hairs.... so the shaving of the spot before treating is a good idea

I took some photos. I will include all three on this post. The first shows me with my daughter, and you can see on my right cheekbone (left side looking at photo) there is a red spot. That has been there for 2 years.
Photo 2 shows the spot after applying iodine for about three days. The iodine reacted with the spot, and formed a scab very quickly.
Photo 3 shows the spot with the first scab having come off. I wish I had found the clear 12% iodine before I bought the red tincture, but I am not going to wait for it to get here. Time to start Round 2.

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Carole

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Posted - 08/10/2012 :  11:58:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Darryl,

I really am thankful for those pictures and they show in such detail how this all works. Obviously, it takes patience. I'm not sure what day I began using the iodine but it was right around the first of August so yours are ahead of mine by several days, it appears. It looks that it might not take as long as I had thought but the original one and largest of mine has been there for possibly as long as four years and may not be as large as yours appears to be. It's just that there are some smaller ones involved (and we were certain it appeared like it was spreading before beginning this).

I am so glad I found this website as I had continued to wait without doing anything because I really didn't want to use the black salve on an area that close to my eye. We used the black salve years ago on one on my back and it worked beautifully; however, it was very painful for the first 12 hours but it healed up just like pictures showed and I don't even think there is a scar there now.

We (my husband) actually removed a brand new probable cancer that raised quickly very close to my collar bone within the last couple of years but the funny thing is that within about a week's span he tried several things and one morning I just touched the area and it fell off in my hand. It had litle "roots" all over the back side. But we can't remember what all we used that week!!! They were things such as the baking soda/maple syrup (internal), mms, shock (calcium hypochlorite) for swimming pools, DMSO, possibly tea tree oil. We just can't remember what all we used but within about a week of it raising up (very red and leathery) it fell off in my hand.
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D.B.Lawton

USA
22 Posts

Posted - 08/11/2012 :  09:42:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow, Carole.... that is interesting. I read a LOT of info on the black salve, which is also called bloodroot paste, and from what I can gather on that stuff, it is a Native American cure, and most importantly, you MUST be very careful who you buy it from!
There is some propaganda on a site called Quackwatch, and the doctor there uses the experiences of a few people that all bought their black salve from Alpha Omega Labs, which, unfortunately, uses sulphuric acid in their product, which ate holes in people. The one thing to consider here is that not all black salves contain sulphuric acid. I would not put ANYTHING with sulphuric acid on my face..... or anywhere else on my body. Of course, Quackwatch seeks to stop people from seeking out anything other than traditional, treat-the-symptoms medicine.


I am in agreement with you on the black salve/bloodroot paste. I would use it on any other part of my body, other than on my face, and I certainly would not use it on my nose...... which is why I opted for the iodine treatment for my issue.

As for mine, in the first photo with my daughter, you can see that the slightly discolored spot on my right cheekbone is hardly noticeable..... but boy, when the iodine began its work, it shocked me to see how large it really was.

I am once again applying the iodine, and am excited to see what differences there will be in this second scab formation. Will post photo before and after the second one drops off.

Edited by - D.B.Lawton on 08/11/2012 09:45:36
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D.B.Lawton

USA
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Posted - 08/12/2012 :  20:44:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
AAArrrggghhh!!! It is days like today that I am GLAD that I am using the 7% TINCTURE with alcohol! This thing is itching me like CRAZY!!!
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D.B.Lawton

USA
22 Posts

Posted - 08/17/2012 :  22:13:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well....the second crust fell off when I was drying off after my shower this evening. This is..... what? The seventh day since I lost the first crust? I will wait until in the morning to take a photo in the daylight. I have put iodine on it after my shower. It looks even a little better than it did when the first crust dropped off. So, if Dr. Simoncini's posts are accurate, I am now waiting for the third and final crust or scab to form and it should be healed when that one drops off.
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Carole

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Posted - 08/18/2012 :  06:35:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Darryl,

That is wonderful! I'm still waiting on mine to come off the first time. I believe I began using iodine on August 2 so wondering if it is possible that it is taking so long because the first spot has been there probably at least four years. Actually, I was painting a big portion of my nose as it had become rough, almost like sandpaper with little spots here and there but, little by little, small portions of the iodine crust peeled off and it looked very smooth so it just leaves two spots, one on each side of the bridge of my nose about halfway between my eyes and the end of the nose, which I've continued treating. I guess it is a learning process but this is certainly much easier than a MOHS surgery would have been. I don't even mind the stinging anymore.
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D.B.Lawton

USA
22 Posts

Posted - 08/18/2012 :  10:05:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey Carole... that is great to hear! Yes, I kept wondering the same thing.... was the scab ever gonna come off? It will, and you can see in this photo that the skin is quite new and shiny looking. I am amazed, and well pleased. One more crust to go on this, and it should be done!

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Carole

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Posted - 08/19/2012 :  16:57:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, I can finally celebrate partially, anyway! The scab on the second area has now come off today. Still waiting on the original BCC scab to come off but I'm feeling good about this one. Will keep waiting however long it takes!
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D.B.Lawton

USA
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Posted - 08/23/2012 :  22:01:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Another photo. This shows that the third and final crust covers only the original small spot. I will continue to apply, and wait.

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dolfan

USA
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Posted - 09/05/2012 :  06:47:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Darryl, thanks for the detail photos of your encounter.
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D.B.Lawton

USA
22 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2012 :  20:40:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No problem. In fact, I will post another one. This was taken two minutes ago. No scarring. No spot. Gone.

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dolfan

USA
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Posted - 09/06/2012 :  05:05:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A picture is worth a thousand words
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Carole

15 Posts

Posted - 09/06/2012 :  09:17:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That picture says it all! I'm still working on mine. The iodine patch on my second one to develop came off for the second time today. The lower portion of the first one came off yesterday but the bigger portion of that one is still being treated and I'm waiting for it to come off. It must just be much deeper in that area than the other areas. (I've been working on this for over a month now.) It has been there for at least four years I know and I didn't want to use the only thing I knew of which was Black Salve so it most certainly has continued to grow underneath. Anyway, I have the time to wait and this definitely is the best method I've ever heard about to do the job so will continue with the iodine.
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edlogic

USA
2 Posts

Posted - 09/14/2012 :  21:33:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i found this on amazon

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00562ZND6/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00
no specs there but here
http://www.drugs.com/vet/tincture-iodine-7.html

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edlogic

USA
2 Posts

Posted - 09/14/2012 :  21:44:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
oops - the above second link is erroneous - i don't think it applies
the bottle says 7 percent iodine and on the front it says
with povidone added

that is all
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Carole

15 Posts

Posted - 09/23/2012 :  10:12:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Finally, the iodine scab on the original cancer has come off for the first time this a.m. That is about a week less than two months! The scab had become so thick from applying iodine that I wondered how it could even penetrate the area but it must have done so because the area certainly looks better than before I began treatment. Some days recently it was itching incredibly and yesterday it was burning a lot. I’ve continued to be consistent even though I’ve wondered if it was ever going to come off. Two days ago the scab came off for the third time on the second and smaller cancer that developed within the last several months on the right side of my nose; there is no scaring and the skin is very smooth! Again, I want to say “Thanks” to everyone posting on this site previously for taking the time to document their experiences for those who find this site later, giving each of us the courage to go the natural route, saving lots of pain and expense instead of just having a cancer cut out time and again.
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Jason79

10 Posts

Posted - 10/19/2012 :  15:15:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello all, and thanks everybody for sharing so much useful information about the bcc treatment with iodine.
Some background info on me: 33yo, male, caucasian. Not quite the typical skin cancer subject because my skin is not really pale, brown eyes and hair. I don't have my thyroid anymore, has been completely removed after it developed a tumor.
My bcc initially it just seemed a little wound on my leg the size of a cent, that no matter what, it never healed, becoming a small ulcer. It then grew bigger to the size of a quarter. The wound hasn't healed, and it's like a hole in the skin, whose level is a little higher than the surround skin (like a bump). Before trying surgical options, I decided to try the iodine treatment, three days ago. Bought 7% alchoolic iodine tincture, and started the treatment.

The first day I applied iodine in large quantities, covering the bcc and the surrounding area. Needless to say, it burnt like hell, since the wound basically has no skin on it. I applied continuously the whole day, suffering a lot but trying to manage the pain. The wound looked scary, because the iodine very quickly created a large black scab that looked like dead (burnt) tissue. I kept soaking with iodine. The day after, the wound itself was a little more clear than the surrouding area. Kept applying iodine tincture the whole day. Still burns like hell, as now, and in some moments I feel "something" is happening on the wound like feeling a drop that isn't there, or feel like a thousand needles tickling it from the inside. The scab is quite dry, I soak it with iodine, wating for it to get dry again after 10-15 minutes. Then I apply again.

Today I went to work, applied iodine this morning, the wound was black, so it didn't "clear" overnight. I put a loose bandage to let the wound breathe. This evening, back from work, the wound looks WAY scary. The center is a solid and thick scab, surrounded by bubbles, like you may have after a mild-to-severe burn. The bcc itself has astonishingly lowered its height. It's the same level with the rest of the leg skin, while has always been a bump, lately. It's surrounded by these bubbles, which I'm not sure whether to pop with a needle or not. My guts tell me not to do it. I'm "feeling" something is definitely happening, but the pain is awful.

Will keep you guys posted about how it's going, I sure hope it will be another successful story like the one in this thread. I have to admit I'm a little scared.



Edited by - Jason79 on 10/22/2012 12:48:03
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Jason79

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Posted - 10/20/2012 :  17:26:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Update. All around the spot now is a big corona bubble/blister. It's like a volcano. Internal scab, still the size of a quarter, thick and lower. The edges however are starting following the profile off the blister, detaching from whatever it's below it. Still hurts with stingy pain, but almost no sensitivity in the area, high sensitivity in the borders, that are painful to touch. Will wait, keep applying iodine, and see.
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Jason79

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Posted - 10/22/2012 :  04:19:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yesterday the bubble broke, the wound started leaking. Despite the pain I kept applying iodine, the main scab is starting to lift on the borders, the outside area is just dead skin covering the wound now.
The iodine reaching the fresh but still not completely formed "new" skin burnt a lot worse than I could ever expected. I nearly blacked out a couple of times, and had to resort to painkillers (Tramadol) for the first time to be able to sleep.

Is anybody still following this thread? How long did it take for you for the first, second and third scabs to fall? Were the second and third scabs less painful?
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Carole

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Posted - 10/22/2012 :  10:48:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've been treating my BCC since early august and it looks much, much better, however, at the moment I'm waiting to see what it looks like since most of the scab has come off for the third time on the worst area(don't know if this is good or not but it has seemed so long that I've been working on it that I thought I'd just see what it looked like IF the entire thing will come off, otherwise I'm going to begin putting on the iodine again right away). Mine had been there for probably at least four years so I think that is why it seems to be taking so long. It seems like it must have taken most of two months for the scab to come off the first time but I didn't make note of it.

We are each learning from the experiences of the ones before so I am wishing you the best in your attempt, too!
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Jason79

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Posted - 10/23/2012 :  05:53:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you so much Carole. This morning I found the original scab completely lifted, after exactly a week of soaking, although the skin below hasn't completely reformed. However, there's new skin even on the wound, something that hasn't been there for a while. Challenge is to see if this new layer will generate an ulcer or not. Put iodine againe, worst pain ever and again painkillers.
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Mexico

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Posted - 10/23/2012 :  06:52:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just a quick note here. Yes it probably has to do with size and how much time it has been there. I just did a small one and it only took 3 weeks for 3 scabs to form. It looks very good this morning after stopping the iodine for 3 days. I'll see if it holds. Sometimes a second round is necessary if you stop too early.
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D.B.Lawton

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Posted - 10/25/2012 :  18:00:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Gee.... sorry, Jason. I haven't been on this forum in quite some time.
My experience, if youlook back on my posts was first scab falling off at day 12. Second scab took another 11 days, as did the third and final scab.
Man, if the pain is that intense, you should get Lugol's iodine, which contains no alcohol. It can be easily found on either E-Bay or Amazon.

Carole.... so GLAD to read of YOUR updates! Good for you! Stick with it, and dont give up, y'all! If you have any questions at all... there is a link earlier in this thread directly to Dr. Simoncini's website. What a wonderful man he is!
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Jason79

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Posted - 10/28/2012 :  13:21:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you. The first scab as I said came off after one week, but with the skin underneath not completely formed. Now, after nearly another week, the scab is starting peeling on the outside. Now the scab covers the original bcc only.
The pain has got better, after the first scab came off it was the worst.

I'm still going with the alchoolic solution because what I believe is that basically iodium and alchool basically do a chemical burn on the skin. BCCs are also treated with cryotherapy, which basically burns the tissue. Can't rule out the fungus origin of bcc, but what we're doing here seems to me a controlled chemical burn of the area. Fingers crossed.
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D.B.Lawton

USA
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Posted - 10/28/2012 :  13:43:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The whole treatment idea is that the iodine kills the candida abicans. Many posters here are using Lugol's without the alcohol. I used the alcohol solution, myself. The burning was no big deal to me. Just felt like it was working....lol

Glad to hear that this is working for you. THAT is the bottom line, ain't it?
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Jason79

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Totally :) (fingers still crossed, have been and will be for a while)
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Now, something strange to report. As Chuck mentioned in his posts, other "dormient" spots rose up. One, about half an inch, came up very soon like a bump and has been treated together with the main one. In the last week I experienced a red spot on the left leg which seems to be disappearing by itself, another "goosebump" irritation on the right leg (but far from where the main bcc is). Also, a little lump in the back of the head, which also looked like a bcc and now I'm also treating with iodine, and another on the jaw, hurting like a big pimple below the skin. Is it possible that with the continuous application of iodine on an open wound, iodine "woke up" other potential bcc spots? I'll see a doctor if these spots don't go away in a couple of days (maybe it's just an allergy reaction, even though I'm not an allergic subject), but just wondering.
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Jason79

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Well, the bumps disappeared almost completely, except for the one on the head that I've been treating with iodine, I'm still working on that.

The big bump near the original bcc, on the leg has gone. The surrounding area has now mostly healed, leaving no scar, but a round white spot of new skin (I hope it will revert to my skin's color eventually, with time). The second scab fell off leaving just a very little area where the skin is still unformed. I'm still applying iodine there, daily. The third scab is now as big as the original bcc, although when the second fell off, the still-to-heal part was smaller, so it seems to me it's working. The pain has been, for the last two weeks, completely manageable, it just got a little worse each time a scab fell. I'd say that in about two weeks this third one should come off with the skin completely reformed. I hope!
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D.B.Lawton

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Glad to hear your success, Jason. I had another spot come up on my face. Same side, but down at the bottom of my cheek. Already had first scab fall off. Waiting for second. Sigh..... at least we know a good cure, huh?
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Russky

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Posted - 12/02/2012 :  20:43:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm new. Bear with me folks!
Originally from Russia but living in California.

I got something on my leg for about 6 years. It's yellow when not painted and shiny.
Sore and dripping limpha sometimes. 6 mm in diameter.
Absolutely resisted all my efforts to remove it with 7% iodine before.
After reading Chuck and Lawton discussion I 'saw the light'.
I bought 7% iodine a while ago but used it to cure eczema and keratosis.
Both of those doctor diagnosed. Just peeled off after spraying many times with iodine (but only once daily)
I didn't know anything about treating skin cancer with iodine.
Now I see the trick: painting 3 times a day.

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My neck problem as seen by IPhone. Had it since 1991. Seen many doctors. They see nothing and offer me prozac.
Covered it twice with iodine and got 'iceberg' big time. Hurts a lot. Like Jason. Need painkiller.
Now back to my leg.
So I'm in day 4. 'Iceberg' popped as big as small chicken egg at the store.

Looking at WebMD it's probably keratosis head. BCC underneath, dead skin on top.
Thanks to Carol for brush idea.
Will update.
Cheers!


Edited by - Russky on 12/08/2012 15:52:31
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D.B.Lawton

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Actually, Russky.... I paint mine on several times each day, carrying the bottle around with me and giving it a good soaking each time. My bottle came with an "eye dropper" on the lid, and I just use that as an applicator, and it works quite well.
Second scab fell off today (great news!) and I am still applying several times a day. Glad you are starting to have good results. Dr. Simoncini deserves the Nobel Prize. It is disgusting what they are doing to him.
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Jason79

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Posted - 12/08/2012 :  16:22:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Keep up the good work, Russky, after some time, the pain gets manageable. If the wound is bigger, it will hurt more.

Mine now is completely covered with new skin, whoa! However, there's still 4-5 very little "hot" spots, in a very little area (smaller tan the original bcc), so I'll start a new treatment, it should take way less. Skin is still peeling every 1-2 days, and the whole area is not "clear" yet.

Something I noticed while trying to snap a picture, is that a cellphone camera is GREAT in showing the real extent of the healing process.
If you turn the phone camera flash-led on, and point it to the wound, it would reveal MUCH better than the eyes, the parts of the skin that healed, and the parts that are still "in progress".

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Russky

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Update day 12. Not much happening. Leather like appearance. Angry period and icebergs are over.
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quote:
Originally posted by Russky

I'm new. Bear with me folks!
Originally from Russia but living in California.

I got something on my leg for about 6 years. It's yellow when not painted and shiny.
Sore and dripping limpha sometimes. 6 mm in diameter.
Absolutely resisted all my efforts to remove it with 7% iodine before.
After reading Chuck and Lawton discussion I 'saw the light'.
I bought 7% iodine a while ago but used it to cure eczema and keratosis.
Both of those doctor diagnosed. Just peeled off after spraying many times with iodine (but only once daily)
I didn't know anything about treating skin cancer with iodine.
Now I see the trick: painting 3 times a day.

Uploaded with [URL=http://imageshack.us]ImageShack.us[/URL]

My neck problem as seen by IPhone. Had it since 1991. Seen many doctors. They see nothing and offer me prozac.
Covered it twice with iodine and got 'iceberg' big time. Hurts a lot. Like Jason. Need painkiller.
Now back to my leg.
So I'm in day 4. 'Iceberg' popped as big as small chicken egg at the store.

Looking at WebMD it's probably keratosis head. BCC underneath, dead skin on top.
Thanks to Carol for brush idea.
Will update.
Cheers!




Edited by - Russky on 12/10/2012 15:59:04
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Russky

USA
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quote:
Originally posted by Russky

Update day 12. Not much happening. Leather like appearance. Angry period and icebergs are over.
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quote:
Originally posted by Russky

I'm new. Bear with me folks!
Originally from Russia but living in California.

I got something on my leg for about 6 years. It's yellow when not painted and shiny.
Sore and dripping limpha sometimes. 6 mm in diameter.
Absolutely resisted all my efforts to remove it with 7% iodine before.
After reading Chuck and Lawton discussion I 'saw the light'.
I bought 7% iodine a while ago but used it to cure eczema and keratosis.
Both of those doctor diagnosed. Just peeled off after spraying many times with iodine (but only once daily)
I didn't know anything about treating skin cancer with iodine.
Now I see the trick: painting 3 times a day.

Uploaded with [URL=http://imageshack.us]ImageShack.us[/URL]

My neck problem as seen by IPhone. Had it since 1991. Seen many doctors. They see nothing and offer me prozac.
Covered it twice with iodine and got 'iceberg' big time. Hurts a lot. Like Jason. Need painkiller.
Now back to my leg.
So I'm in day 4. 'Iceberg' popped as big as small chicken egg at the store.

Looking at WebMD it's probably keratosis head. BCC underneath, dead skin on top.
Thanks to Carol for brush idea.
Will update.
Cheers!





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Russky

USA
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Posted - 12/12/2012 :  01:06:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Day 15 update
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First scab fell off. Red spot about 2 mm survived. I took picture with flash and promptly covered spot with 7% iodine.
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