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thanks01

USA
170 Posts

Posted - 07/19/2009 :  16:00:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dan, thanks for the new map (which explains to me why I have trouble finding E. Peplus in NE) and for the link to the old archive, which contains interesting material on Petty Spurge used as a treatment. I'll mention here also that I found the new thread called Jalapenos? (http://www.topicalinfo.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=557) to be interesting. Capsaicin cream for arthritis is sold in drugstores. I am trying a little of that on some spots now as I watch my Petty Spurge seedling grow. They still have a long way to go.
Reading the treatment link you provided, with various anecdotes, reminds me that here we are talking about TREATMENT for existing spots. A common complaint in some of those stories is the appearance of NEW spots, sometimes many at a time. A reminder that proper DIET to help PREVENT new spots is important also. I'm glad that this website addresses both ends of the problem.
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RidgebackDogs

USA
103 Posts

Posted - 07/19/2009 :  16:52:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi All! Thank you for your posts! i read them and i feel alot less "helpless"!
i have been searching for any pictures of skin being treated with petty spurge and have not found any so far - would like to see this before i try it - esp on my face. one of my biopsies came back as bcc.

THANKS01 - let me know how the arthritis cream works - i was looking at them the other day in the store but think i should let the bx heal up more before using.

if anyone else out there is using cymilium, petty spurge or methyl jasmonate or capsaicin cream and could take pix of their treatment and post - that would be great. i will take pix when i figure out what i want to hit this with.

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thanks01

USA
170 Posts

Posted - 07/28/2009 :  20:06:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Okay, I'll try to keep up with capsaicin (arthritis cream) updates, on that thread. It seemed interesting on some possible AKs. I took a couple of days off because I had some spread near my lips, but was outside on a windy day and the wind blew my hair across my lips and into my eyes. NOT GOOD. TAKE CARE of unexpected results if using on face. But I plan to come back to it when some other things here settle down a bit.
Meanwhile my Petty Spurge seedlings, though developing some leaves, are TINY!
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mikE1

USA
10 Posts

Posted - 08/05/2009 :  21:12:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SoFl

Shoulder AK treatment update - a few weeks after treatment the area is now clear and the area treated has no visible signs that anything out of the ordinary ever existed. Now using on a more severe AK that could possibly be developing into SCC on opposite shoulder (symptoms, rough scaly patch 1/4 inch that routinely peels and occasionally bleeds if I pull off the peeling part) with similar results so far. All previously treated areas have remained clear including lower lip which feels fantastic.



Would it be possible for you to mail a few of the seeds to me? I would like to grow my own plants and will be happy o pay the postage. Thanks.
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mikE1

USA
10 Posts

Posted - 08/05/2009 :  21:21:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by thanks01

Dan, thanks for the new map (which explains to me why I have trouble finding E. Peplus in NE) and for the link to the old archive, which contains interesting material on Petty Spurge used as a treatment. I'll mention here also that I found the new thread called Jalapenos? (http://www.topicalinfo.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=557) to be interesting. Capsaicin cream for arthritis is sold in drugstores. I am trying a little of that on some spots now as I watch my Petty Spurge seedling grow. They still have a long way to go.
Reading the treatment link you provided, with various anecdotes, reminds me that here we are talking about TREATMENT for existing spots. A common complaint in some of those stories is the appearance of NEW spots, sometimes many at a time. A reminder that proper DIET to help PREVENT new spots is important also. I'm glad that this website addresses both ends of the problem.




I've ordered twice from the Australian source. The first shipment arrived and I was unable to germinate the seeds. I suspect the postal authorities irradiated them to kill them. The second shipment looked as if the envelope had been run thru a high-pressure roller. All seeds were smashed to a pulp. Now I'm trying to find someone who will mail me some liveseedsso that I can grow my own plants. If anyone outthere has some euphorbia peplus seeds that they can mail to me, please help. I'll be happy to pay the postage. My email is: mike.duckworth@harris.com Thanks.
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thanks01

USA
170 Posts

Posted - 08/06/2009 :  14:25:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mike, I think I should add to discussion about the current Australian source that the germination rate for my seeds seems to be exactly 50%. The packet contains thirty seeds. What you say is interesting about possible radiation.
I think I may email you about sending some seeds.
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Dan A

Canada
5 Posts

Posted - 08/06/2009 :  16:22:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Does anyone know how long the germination period is before they start sticking up though the soil? I planted mine a couple of weeks ago and still have'nt seen any sign.
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SoFl

USA
79 Posts

Posted - 08/12/2009 :  14:50:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dan A

Does anyone know how long the germination period is before they start sticking up though the soil? I planted mine a couple of weeks ago and still have'nt seen any sign.



I used the kind of potting soil that has foam balls in it so that it drains very well. I germinate the seeds by putting the potting soil in a pot, then placing a few seeds on the surface, and then watering every day keeping the soil moist. It takes about one week to 10 days for the seeds to germinate. I used the seeds from Australia to the US and the germination rate is near 100%...my difficulty has been in growing the seeds past 1 or 2 inch seedlings...the ones that go on to become mature adults is about only 1 or 2%. I think it has to do with hot weather. They don't seem to like hot weather at all.

Also this plant is an annual so they will die after they produce seeds, and one plant makes a lot of seeds. The first one I grew to maturity that cured everything on my body has now expired but I have a replacement going.
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mikE1

USA
10 Posts

Posted - 08/15/2009 :  14:26:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by thanks01

Mike, I think I should add to discussion about the current Australian source that the germination rate for my seeds seems to be exactly 50%. The packet contains thirty seeds. What you say is interesting about possible radiation.
I think I may email you about sending some seeds.



Update:
Someone was kind enough to mail me some seeds in an envelope. Unfortunately, this envelope also arrived having been run thru a roller, (just like the second batch from Australia) and all the tiny seeds were smashed. I've since mailed a box to this kind lady so that she could send some seeds with no chance of them being crushed by the postal authorities. It sure is hard getting hold of seeds, but the prospect of getting rid of skin cancer is well worth any effort it will take imo! Will report on germination, once I get some seeds intact.
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thanks01

USA
170 Posts

Posted - 08/25/2009 :  20:12:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am very eager to try the Petty Spurge. But at the moment my plants are extremely "petty" or SMALL. I planted the seeds in potting soil, rather than just garden dirt, but they are not taking to it the way most plants do. Perhaps it's just the lousy "perpetual spring" weather of gray and rain that we had for 3 months. I'm still hoping for some leaves to pick and some flowers and seeds, before fall.

Petty Spurge, Capsaicin, and also, still, Pancreatin (in skin cream) are my favorite 3 right now. As for Eggplant, I make sure to EAT it, not using it topically right now. My main trouble with myself is that I am back to that "glass of wine," which is bad for the Candida. I am enjoying it and wishing I did not.
Best to all.
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mikE1

USA
10 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2009 :  18:34:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Have good news to report. Was finally able to germinate 3x of the seeds, (thanks to an angel on this forum who sent me some of her last seeds). The little seedlings are about an inch high. The only way I have been able to germinate them is to put some between layers of wet paper towel in a sandwich bag, (to keep them from drying out) and leaving in refrigerator. After about a week, the seed splits open and a tiny white root peeked out. Then I transferred them to peat pots with "Jiffy Mix" starting mix (a king of potting soil) and put them in a protected spot outdoors. (Not in direct sun.) Seems to work pretty good. Anxiously awaiting the day when they are mature enough to provide some sap. If these will grow to maturity, may be able to get some seeds and make them available to whomever needs them.
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mikE1

USA
10 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2009 :  18:38:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Forgot to mention: If anyone on this forum wants to mail seeds. be sure to either out them in a box or use padded mailer like with bubble wrap. Reason is, the postal authorities have automated mail handling machinery that passes envelopes through rollers. The result is, (if you just send seeds in a flat envelope) seeds aresmashed to a pulp. Don't say I didn't warn you - happened to me three different times!
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pollopool

Australia
1 Posts

Posted - 08/30/2009 :  01:56:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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marsha

USA
122 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2009 :  01:42:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
SOFI, I am still using curaderm. I took a short break, after 2 years. Then started up again. I have three open lesions on my nose. Basically the whole top of my nose and a spot on the side, witch may or may not be starting to heal. The tip of my nose and the side are fairly deep. my question to you is if it was your nose would you start using petty spurge at this stage?
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dlm

New Zealand
12 Posts

Posted - 09/29/2009 :  02:15:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have been apply Milkweed (Petty Spurge / Euphorbia peplus) to my nose and to two moles above my lip that I was meant to have burnt off. A student of mine mentioned the Milkweed so I thought I would try it. I applied it to two small areas on my nose and was amazed that it spread to nearly the whole of my nose! My nose swelled up to almost double the size and then I had puss type bubbles all over my nose. The same sort of thing happened to above my lip although it didn't spread like the nose one. I have felt really unwell of and on, and I can only imagine it is all the kill off. I have taken photos as a reference. It is day 7 now and I am still in a bit of a mess. I can not go out in public and lucky for me I am on holiday. My husband who started a couple of moles a day before me has just had one scab fall off. I am applying the Milkweed as suggested above, every day, even over the scabs. I find, funny enough, that after a shower they all really sting. Its like severe sunburn. I am really looking forward to the results. A couple of times I have thought..what have I done? ...but I am keeping with it and will keep taking photos as reference.

Can someone tell me..once the scab falls off..do you keep applying the Milkweed or at that point, you just let it heal itself?

I certainly have a new respect for Milkweed. It now is welcome to grow where ever it likes in our garden
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RidgebackDogs

USA
103 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2009 :  00:31:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi dim!
Check further back in this thread there are posts from SoFl who talks about how he (she?) used the petty spurge - also there was someone from OZ that SoFl was in contact with about how to use it (by email on this forum i assume).
Any pix you could post of your treatment with Petty Spurge could only be a tremendous help to others! Thanks for your post and your contribution. Hope the info above helps - you will have to go back to June posts and a little further or even use the search engine on the forum.
Good luck! you are in my prayers!
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anivoc

645 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2009 :  19:32:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi DLM

I have to say that it seems milkweed causes a very similar reaction to bloodroot paste. If it were me, based on this assumption ( and that is all it is) after the scab fell off I would let the area heal up and watch to see if it seems OK. If it seemed that there is still problems I'd reapply the next time I was able to stay home for a few weeks again.


I have found a company in Arizona called Phytomedx that is selling a diluted to 5% solution of milkweed sap. They are selling it for dealing with genital warts, actinic keratosis and ringworm.

Rather than hijack this thread I am going to start a new one with my results to date.

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thanks01

USA
170 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2009 :  20:15:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Anivoc,
Thanks for this. Can you post us the information on how to get this petty spurge solution so that we can try some? I am one of the ones who ordered seeds from Australia and had poor luck in growing them. As MiKe1 pointed out somewhere, the seeds appear to have suffered from radiation going through customs. My plants grew very poorly for a WEED and I consider this season lost on that count. However, I am interested to try this spurge. Thx.
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dlm

New Zealand
12 Posts

Posted - 10/13/2009 :  01:55:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ok...no laughing at these photos! It took 3 weeks from my first application of milkweed till I was completely healed up. My nose and upper lip are still slightly pink(just over 3 weeks) but I must say I am very impressed with the results.
Day 3
Day 10
/Final results Day 20
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dlm

New Zealand
12 Posts

Posted - 10/13/2009 :  01:57:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am now using aloe vera straight from the plant on my nose and upper lip while they are still abit pink and sensitive.
I used the Milkweed (Euphorbia Peplus) once a day until the scabs came off. Do not pick at the scabs or be tempted to take them off as you will scar.
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dan

608 Posts

Posted - 10/14/2009 :  01:29:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well done, dlm! There ought to be an animated fireworks gif for these results. Thanks, it was great that you included the photos.
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dlm

New Zealand
12 Posts

Posted - 10/15/2009 :  02:55:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks:) My nose is looking amazing now. I am now applying to dodgy moles on my legs and they have started to react already. But the moles on my hands haven't reacted..so I am guessing that the milkweed only reacts on precancerous or cancerous cells..or perhaps abnormal skin cells. As it doesn't react on some spots and they can be right next door to each other.
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anivoc

645 Posts

Posted - 10/15/2009 :  19:08:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Woo Hoo!



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dlm

New Zealand
12 Posts

Posted - 10/15/2009 :  20:54:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks!
If you want to see more photos day by day they are on:
http://bowentherapy.homestead.com/Milkweedforskincancer.html
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RidgebackDogs

USA
103 Posts

Posted - 10/18/2009 :  15:51:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
DLM,
Wahoooooo!

Thank you so very, very much for the pix!!!!

Did you cover the areas with a bandage of any kind or tape? How did you keep your hair out it???
Did you wash it off at any time after applying it - like at bedtime?
Thanks for your info. It is SO VERY appreciated with much gratitude!!!!
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RidgebackDogs

USA
103 Posts

Posted - 10/18/2009 :  15:58:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Anivoc,

Thanks for the fireworks!!!

Nice touch for dlm!
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dlm

New Zealand
12 Posts

Posted - 10/21/2009 :  02:57:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Did you cover the areas with a bandage of any kind or tape? How did you keep your hair out it???
Did you wash it off at any time after applying it - like at bedtime?

Hi there..no I didn't cover with any bandage...I did try once but they just didn't work with my nose or my upper lip...odd shapes..
I have short hair so it didn't come into contact with the areas.
I didn't purposely wash it off ever...normally I would apply it after a shower.

I did make sure I applied it every day, even when it was scabbing, only stopping once the scabs came off.

Good luck. Diana
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RidgebackDogs

USA
103 Posts

Posted - 10/23/2009 :  22:05:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Diana Hi!

Thanks for the info. Did the sap dry out and not tend to go anywhere else on your face? Did you wash down area where you applied it like SoFl did (sink, counter top etc?). Again, thanks for sharing the pix and the info!!!
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dlm

New Zealand
12 Posts

Posted - 10/24/2009 :  00:59:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes the sap does dry out or it is absorbed into the mole or skin, usually straight away...but sometimes it would take up to a minute to absorb. I always applied it in the bathroon and I must admit didn't wash down the area. You do have to be careful when you snap a bit off the plant as the milky sap can flick off the plant...so watch your eyes. I always had my glasses on when doing this. I am now doing my legs, one mole isn't doing much but another one is alot like the ones above my lips. When we go away, we put the milkweed with its roots in a plastic bag with a little water for the roots to sit in. It lasts for quite a few days doing this.
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clearlake

USA
25 Posts

Posted - 11/01/2009 :  13:27:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello first time poster - I purchased some seeds from the url on this list and have been growing some petty spurge. I have them going in 2 different windowsills to see which one does better. They are both thriving. Wondering when I will be able to use sap/leaves. They are 3 weeks old now/approx. I would post a photo, which I have prepared per instructions, but there is no "paper clip" icon at the bottom of the edit window next to the text "Insert an Image File". I'm on a mac, not a pc. Using Safari and Firefox. Please advise. Clearlake
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thanks01

USA
170 Posts

Posted - 11/01/2009 :  16:15:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Clearlake,
My seeds did so poorly. 3 of 4 plants that got started are still alive, indoors now in NE, and only about two inches tall, after the whole summer. I got a couple of seedpods and am hoping for stronger plants next year. I grew them in ordinary potting soil, where I thought they would do well. My thinking is that possible radiation during passing through customs from Australia weakened the seeds and stock. That's why I hope for next year. However, I'm glad to hear that someone is succeeding with this. You give us hope.
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dlm

New Zealand
12 Posts

Posted - 11/01/2009 :  21:09:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Clearlake, You can use the petty surge as soon as it is big enough. The stems should look reasonably fleshy. You need to make sure the plant gets plenty of water to assist in the fleshy stems. The only trouble is, you want enough of the plant to last you for your whole treatement. I was going through quite abit with mine. We have it growing as a weed in the garden so we have plenty of it. Instead of pulling it out, we now protect and bless it :)
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clearlake

USA
25 Posts

Posted - 11/02/2009 :  11:11:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the feedback DIM and THANKS1

I've uploaded my little plant photos online so you can see how they are doing (there is a spoon in the photo to show scale). These are two sets of seedlings in 2 different windowsills.



Also, I followed the advice on sprouting the seeds from the info on this site as well as referencing a good article titled "How to Grow Plants From Seed" that I found online - but the url is too long to copy here, just google it. Clearlake

Edited by - clearlake on 12/10/2013 06:22:02
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dan

608 Posts

Posted - 11/02/2009 :  21:22:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Clearlake, thanks for noticing the "insert an image file" paperclip thing was broken (and for being resourceful in posting the link to the pictures!). I think the inline image mechanism is working again. I feel bad, it must have been broken for quite a while.
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dlm

New Zealand
12 Posts

Posted - 11/06/2009 :  01:53:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Clearlake, I would wait until the plants are much bigger. With alot more stems. But they are looking great.
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clearlake

USA
25 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2009 :  17:44:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks DIM - that's exactly what I needed to know. I have been looking closer at the photos of mature petty spurge online (having never seen it in person) and the plants do seem MUCH bigger. The stalks are thick. I'm trying to be patient, but I'm just kind of desperate to be hitting some spots on my face, similar to yours on upper lip. I've been using bloodroot in the meantime, and you know how much fun that is . . . Clearlake
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janagain

USA
16 Posts

Posted - 11/16/2009 :  16:13:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
All you who have sprouted petty spurge seeds, could you please tell me what the seeds look like: size, shape, color? I have a US contact who may be able to get seeds from plants in his yard but wants to be sure what he is gathering is petty spurge. Does anybody know if the plant changes color in the fall? If I am successful in getting the plant to grow, I will be happy to share the bounty. I have not been able to find seeds anywhere in the US, which I find hard to believe since it is a weed! Please, growers, help!
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SoFl

USA
79 Posts

Posted - 11/24/2009 :  12:03:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by janagain

All you who have sprouted petty spurge seeds, could you please tell me what the seeds look like: size, shape, color? I have a US contact who may be able to get seeds from plants in his yard but wants to be sure what he is gathering is petty spurge. Does anybody know if the plant changes color in the fall? If I am successful in getting the plant to grow, I will be happy to share the bounty. I have not been able to find seeds anywhere in the US, which I find hard to believe since it is a weed! Please, growers, help!



The seeds are extremely small, on the order of 1mm or smaller. You can get the seeds in Australia from a link posted earlier in the thread and they aren't expensive.

There are a lot of very similar looking weeds. Petty Spurge propagates by the seed pods exploding when they reach a certain temperature and one plant makes a whole lot of seeds. Save yourself some aggravation and make sure you're getting the real thing.

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SoFl

USA
79 Posts

Posted - 11/24/2009 :  12:07:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
SoFl here just logging in to say that although it's only been a 3-6 months since I treated a total of 6 areas with Petty Spurge, lip (confirmed SCC and almost 20 years of pain, issues and treatments), shoulder, leg (2 spots), face (confirmed BCC) and Arm (confirmed SCC) I have had no recurrence and I don't think I'm going to. As far as I'm concerned, this is THE cure. After years of going to the dermatologist every 3 months, I have no use for him now unless I see something I think is melanoma (already had one of those too).

I am currently always keeping at least one live plant growing all the time, and I have made an extract by taking live leaves and their stems and putting them in distilled water then crushing the plant material. I keep a reserve of that in the refrigerator. It seems that is almost as strong as the pure white sap but not quite. It seems to keep well in the refrigerator, I have some now about 6 months old.

Best of luck to everyone trying this weed (be careful not to get it in your eye).

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SoFl

USA
79 Posts

Posted - 11/24/2009 :  12:18:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by marsha

SOFI, I am still using curaderm. I took a short break, after 2 years. Then started up again. I have three open lesions on my nose. Basically the whole top of my nose and a spot on the side, witch may or may not be starting to heal. The tip of my nose and the side are fairly deep. my question to you is if it was your nose would you start using petty spurge at this stage?



All I can say is that it worked wonders wherever I used it. The Petty Spurge seems to go directly for the cancer and leave the other tissue pretty much alone. The most severe reaction I had was on my forehead on a large BCC which was only partially removed by biopsy. When I used the PS, it ate away the skin in an irregular area which was not apparent prior to treatment. It knew where to go. Now it's been around 6 months and I have no visible scar, whereas I did have a biopsy scar prior to the treatment, so I'm thrilled with the result.
Also, the recommended treatment (MOHS surgery) I doubt would have been effective due to the irregular shape. In other words, there was one area where they would have had a free margin and yet more cancer a few mm away.

Also, for me, it works very fast. It's done doing it's work in 5 days or less when you use the pure white sap and it doesn't take much, probably about 1/5 the size of a water droplet.

Since I considered my use of it experimenting on my own body, I'm not in a position to say what you should or shouldn't do. I can say I was hesitant to use it on my lip but it was painless compared to efudex and appears to have permanently cured what was an ongoing problem for years. I had used everything on my lip, efudex, solaraze, imoquad, everything.

In the future I'll use it anywhere. I'm not scared of it any more and know what to expect.
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SoFl

USA
79 Posts

Posted - 11/24/2009 :  12:26:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by clearlake

Hello first time poster - I purchased some seeds from the url on this list and have been growing some petty spurge. I have them going in 2 different windowsills to see which one does better. They are both thriving. Wondering when I will be able to use sap/leaves. They are 3 weeks old now/approx. I would post a photo, which I have prepared per instructions, but there is no "paper clip" icon at the bottom of the edit window next to the text "Insert an Image File". I'm on a mac, not a pc. Using Safari and Firefox. Please advise. Clearlake



You can use it at any time but if you start clipping off a really small plant, there is only so much plant. One thing I found is that if you hit it with a little bit of miracle gro liquid plant food in water, that can cause a major growth spike and really kick the plant into gear. Without that I have had some that stay in dwarf mode(2[3 inches high). Also, cool weather (40-60 degrees) causes them to grow and hot weather makes them want to stay dwarves. You will get the best growth in partial sun 50-60 or so degrees and using the plant food.


To directly answer your question, here is what I do (my evolved approach).

I use a stainless steel flat blade dental tool that is clean and dry.
Clip a leaf and a little bit of the milky sap will come out of the leaf and out of the stem. Touch the dental tool to each to get a small amount of sap, then apply it from that directly to the area you want to treat. You can also use a small artists paintbrush to get it off the dental tool. It DOES NOT take a lot of the sap. For an area 1/4 inch round, I would estimate that it takes about 1/5 the size of a water droplet of the pure sap per treatment. I have treated either once or twice a day depending on the area.
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SoFl

USA
79 Posts

Posted - 11/24/2009 :  12:35:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dlm

I have been apply Milkweed (Petty Spurge / Euphorbia peplus) to my nose and to two moles above my lip that I was meant to have burnt off. A student of mine mentioned the Milkweed so I thought I would try it. I applied it to two small areas on my nose and was amazed that it spread to nearly the whole of my nose! My nose swelled up to almost double the size and then I had puss type bubbles all over my nose. The same sort of thing happened to above my lip although it didn't spread like the nose one. I have felt really unwell of and on, and I can only imagine it is all the kill off. I have taken photos as a reference. It is day 7 now and I am still in a bit of a mess. I can not go out in public and lucky for me I am on holiday. My husband who started a couple of moles a day before me has just had one scab fall off. I am applying the Milkweed as suggested above, every day, even over the scabs. I find, funny enough, that after a shower they all really sting. Its like severe sunburn. I am really looking forward to the results. A couple of times I have thought..what have I done? ...but I am keeping with it and will keep taking photos as reference.

Can someone tell me..once the scab falls off..do you keep applying the Milkweed or at that point, you just let it heal itself?

I certainly have a new respect for Milkweed. It now is welcome to grow where ever it likes in our garden



Just to clarify, here in the US, there is an entirely different plant called milkweed. This is NOT petty Spurge (Euphorbia peplus). What they call milkweed in the US is completely unrelated to Petty Spurge.

So for anyone in the US, just be aware of this. This confused me for a while when I was getting into it.
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mikE1

USA
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Posted - 11/29/2009 :  20:07:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi All:
Just an update on my efforts to grow petty spurge. A lady on this board sent me some seeds after I failed in several attempts to get good seed thru the post. I now have two large plants which are both putting out seed. Also,there are numerous small seedlings growing in the soil under the plants where the seeds have fallen. As soon as I have a supply of seed, I'll be happy to send a few to anyone who would like to try them. These seeds are good and will germinate. Because the postal people run envelopes thu rollers which crush the seeds, it is necessary to mail in small box.(Now that I have a supply, I am going to try the treatment for myself.) Also, if anyone wants to postitively identify the plant and seed, let me know and I'll post photographs.
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joybell

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Posted - 12/08/2009 :  23:33:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi

Firstly thanks to all of you for putting this info here on the web. I too am waiting for the Peplin product to be made available but the last info from the company was that it will be at least 2011 before we can obtain it. In the meantime, there are many of us that will develop skin cancers.

I have used petty spurge on myself for over 10 years now and have used it on many different areas the most recent being my inside elbow ie the crook of my arm, my jaw, arm and leg. I want to say it is the most efficient plant for getting rid of skin problems.

Yes it can blister but I have always taken this as meaning that it is attacking the potential skin cells that are precancerous as if you put it on skin generally, it doesn't react. It only reacts where there are 'bad' cells.

It can be a scary experience but so is having surgery. I have found that generally it clears within 10-14 days and it is scar free. Not only that, the cancer doesn't seem to come back in that area. I have had one repeat under my eye (yes I have put it near the eye socket but not in the eye!) and I always wash my hands as if you rub your eyes then it is potentially nasty.

I have taken a couple of images this week to show what happens as I think this might help.

This is 10 minutes after application


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and I will need to do another post to show after 8 days....so

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joybell

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Posted - 12/08/2009 :  23:38:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
so here goes...this is 8 days.....

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I'll try and get back in a couple of days when it's all clear to show what happens after 10-14 days.

I wish I had taken shots of the one on my arm as it was awesome ..... very scary indeed but I didn't. I would encourage some of you who are thinking of trying petty spurge to take some photos to show people what to expect.

It will help them through the process I am sure.

Great plant though! Amazing results but not for the faint hearted.

Joybell
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joybell

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Posted - 12/08/2009 :  23:43:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi

After scabs come off, don't worry about applying the petty spurge anymore. The cancer is all clear.

Just do it again when you find another suspicious spot.

Put some of your photos up so others can see.

Also perhaps you are using Petty Spurge and not Milkweed which is a different plan. I'd be interested to see a photo of the weed you're using.

Joybell
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Originally posted by SoFl

quote:
Originally posted by dlm

I have been apply Milkweed (Petty Spurge / Euphorbia peplus) to my nose and to two moles above my lip that I was meant to have burnt off. A student of mine mentioned the Milkweed so I thought I would try it. I applied it to two small areas on my nose and was amazed that it spread to nearly the whole of my nose! My nose swelled up to almost double the size and then I had puss type bubbles all over my nose. The same sort of thing happened to above my lip although it didn't spread like the nose one. I have felt really unwell of and on, and I can only imagine it is all the kill off. I have taken photos as a reference. It is day 7 now and I am still in a bit of a mess. I can not go out in public and lucky for me I am on holiday. My husband who started a couple of moles a day before me has just had one scab fall off. I am applying the Milkweed as suggested above, every day, even over the scabs. I find, funny enough, that after a shower they all really sting. Its like severe sunburn. I am really looking forward to the results. A couple of times I have thought..what have I done? ...but I am keeping with it and will keep taking photos as reference.

Can someone tell me..once the scab falls off..do you keep applying the Milkweed or at that point, you just let it heal itself?

I certainly have a new respect for Milkweed. It now is welcome to grow where ever it likes in our garden



Just to clarify, here in the US, there is an entirely different plant called milkweed. This is NOT petty Spurge (Euphorbia peplus). What they call milkweed in the US is completely unrelated to Petty Spurge.

So for anyone in the US, just be aware of this. This confused me for a while when I was getting into it.

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clearlake

USA
25 Posts

Posted - 12/12/2009 :  11:16:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Questions for Joybell:
I have questions regarding the application of the petty spurge.
Are you using just sap or a combo of sap and crushed leaves as per Sofi?
I have some small plants and I'm testing on my arm using small pinhead size sap and crushed leaves mixed with distilled water. I don't have access to unlimited plants.
Do you apply every day?
How much do you apply? How long do you leave it on?
When you wash it off do you put antibiotic cream or anything on it?
How does it react with deeper or more serious bccs/sccs?
Any info on details of what you've noticed would be helpful as I'm trying it right now on my arm.
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SoFl

USA
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Posted - 12/12/2009 :  13:23:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have attempted to upload a photo of my latest treatment. This was a raised hard lump between the bridge of my nose and my eye about 1/8 inch in diameter and recently it developed a smaller twin about a mm from the original site that would occasionally bleed and scab over. I had this area frozen twice at the dermatologists office and both times it came back. This has been growing for a period of about 10 years and I think it was a slow growing basil cell based on having BCC before.

I have been hesitant to treat this area since it is so close to my eye, but I figured at this point I was looking at an expensive and maybe disfiguring surgery to excise it.

So, after washing and drying the area thoroughly, I applied an amount of sap roughly equivalent to a grain of sand, using one of those pointed rubber dental tools. I extracted the sap onto a flat blade, then touched the tip of the dental tool to the sap, then touched the dental tool to the treatment area in the morning on day 1.

In the evening of day one the area was swollen but no pain. I was very careful to keep the area dry all day and not let any near my eye. I showered off in the evening and used soap and water and let it run for a long time with my eyes closed to wash off any PS.

By the next morning (day 2) two areas (the two hard lumps) were liquified into a yellow goo and I had two pits instead of the two lumps. I thoroughly cleaned the area and applied two sand grain sized amounts of sap to the area and spread it around the pits to make sure it found everything to be found in the area.

This picture was taken on the morning of day three. The center of the treatment area is a small deep pit where the lesion used to be. I applied a third treatment after this picture was taken, just to make sure it got it all, but based on the look of it, it took care of the whole thing by day 2 and possibly on day 1. It looks better on day three than it did after day 1 and 2 even though I treated it again today on the third day.

So I am now finished treating it. Again, I was hesitant to use it so close to my eye but the alternative of surgery in this area didn't seem like a good one. Based on how it looks right now, I am confident that it got it all. Basically, after day one it had turned both hard lumps into a banana like paste and ate rapidly and deeply into those areas.

So I will post a follow up picture after it heals, but I am very confident that this resolved my problem. The main pit it ate was very deep for this thin skin so close to the eye. I have had no eye symptoms at all, but there was quite a bit of swelling around the treated area on the morning of day 2.

I don't recommend that anyone try this so close to the eye. I was excruciatingly careful.

The most interesting thing about this treatment is that the amount of sap I used was so small, and the huge result I had from it. The sap seemed to migrate throught the area about 3/8 inch in diameter and was very selective in eating two pits out (and a smaller third pit) while leaving the rest of the treatment area irritated but undamaged. There has been no pain at all.

Day 3, last day of treatment

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Three days after last treatment, photo is a little blurry but it shows a nearly round pit with a scab on it, which is all that is left from the treatment. The two smaller pitted areas have already healed to the point where they don't show in the photo.



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SoFl

USA
79 Posts

Posted - 12/12/2009 :  13:41:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by clearlake

Questions for Joybell:
I have questions regarding the application of the petty spurge.
Are you using just sap or a combo of sap and crushed leaves as per Sofi?
I have some small plants and I'm testing on my arm using small pinhead size sap and crushed leaves mixed with distilled water. I don't have access to unlimited plants.
Do you apply every day?
How much do you apply? How long do you leave it on?
When you wash it off do you put antibiotic cream or anything on it?
How does it react with deeper or more serious bccs/sccs?
Any info on details of what you've noticed would be helpful as I'm trying it right now on my arm.



I'll take a crack at this if you don't mind.

I have settled on a method of once or twice a day, morning and afternoon, and then a shower in the evening to wash it all off so it doesn't migrate anywhere I don't want it.

With deep lesions, it seems to go as deep as it needs to go to get it all. What I do is if it gets a scab by the second or third day, pull the scab off, wash out the pit, and treat again to make sure it gets it all the way to the bottom. In most cases I think it's done in three days but it depends on the area. I treat legs the longest followed by arms and torso, then anywhere on the face it seems to work very fast.

Also, if you cover the area fairly tightly with a band aid, this greatly enhances the potency, I think because it keeps the sap from drying out and in it's liquid active state. The sap seems to migrate very quickly (instantly) through the skin almost as if it has some sort of solvent in it.

I think the sap is the strongest but the crushed leaves are almost as strong so long as you don't have a dilute solution. My crushed leaf solution is mostly leaves.

Also, there is a variation in plants. The strongest plant I've used was a plant that was raised in a window sill and had to be propped up with a bamboo skewer. It was spindly and homely looking about 8 inches tall (not a full height plant), not healthy looking at all, with some seed pods but with dark green leaves. The sap in this plant is very, very strong compared to healthier looking plants with the more usual lighter green leaves. I'm going to post a picture of it later.
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SoFl

USA
79 Posts

Posted - 12/12/2009 :  14:02:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Pictures of an angry plant. This is the strongest plant I've encountered. It is being supported by a bamboo skewer because the stalk is too small and spindly to support the plant on it's own.
I had the pot inside a copper pot with no hole and the water built up inside the outer pot and soaked the soil for a couple of weeks. I think that has something to do with why the plant looks half diseased and angry.



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