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anivoc
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 Posted - 07/16/2009 : 09:44:00
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Hey Thanks, I have collected all the post that were over at the part of the forum and placed them here. In this post
Here's a link to the US gov's info on it http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=EUPE6
and here's a map of where it grows in the US
RidgebackDogs
Posted - 05/28/2009 :
anivoc hi!
Thanks for the map and pix - awesome!!!!
Tried posting a link to a picture i clicked on yahoo search for petty spurge pictures and it didn't post the same way i pasted it in and so wouldn't work but it had like a slideshow at the top about 4-5 images and could click on it and the bottom would show a bigger photo of selected photo - it was cool sorry i couldn't share the link :(
Chris
Posted - 06/26/2009
Tried to post before, long post, lost in the system. Greetings from New Zealand. Have used milkweed, bad news for skin cancers, this plant is just a weed but it packs a big punch.
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chris
New Zealand
Posted - 06/26/2009
I see my post was put up so will try again . This plant does work. I have had many skin treatments for BCC and they are expensive and painful. Where I live this plant grows wild and is a weed that will cause cows some pain if they happen to eat by mistake (I'm a dairy farmer). I have had skin cancer for some 10 or 12 years, decided there must be a better way. i found your website after reading about an aussie doctor that was developing a cream made from milkweed or petty spurge. I have tried it, best thing since sliced bread. I no longer trust my doctor with the knife, have treated myself, he told me I should not look on internet. But he was more upset that a few thousand dollars were no longer there, cheers Chris |
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Irene
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Dan A
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Posted - 07/17/2009 : 10:49:54
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I ordered (the seeds)from the link given also from Australia about 3 weeks ago and they came in yesterday, Canada Customs did open the package and said "It's on record"...whatever that means, but here anyway. I'll start to plant them this week and see what happens.quote:
Originally posted by Irene
I am still searching to find the plant - don't think the one I found is the right one... the leaves seem more elongated and around the stem the leaves are supposed to be alternate... not so in my specimen.
I found some great pictures on this site (near the bottom of the page).
http://waynesword.palomar.edu/trmar98b.htm
Even better pictures here: http://calphotos.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/img_query?rel-taxon=contains&where-taxon=Euphorbia+peplus&where-anno=1
And a great line drawing and explanation can be found here:
http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=EUPE6&photoID=tipe2_001_avd.tif
Irene
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Originally posted by thanks01
[size=1 Irene,
One reason to use the search utility is because sometimes info about topics gets dragged into the conversation on other threads. If you go to the thread called Thermosurgery, you will find a good picture of Petty Spurge there toward the bottom (I can't tell whether it matches your picture or not) and quite a lot of info which (unfortunately) really should be inside this thread, not that one. Here is the link to that topic: [/size=1] http://www.topicalinfo.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=539 . Good luck![/pink]
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dan
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Dan A
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Posted - 07/19/2009 : 15:43:20
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Dan,
I went to a few nurseries on the west coast (Canada) most never heard of it and tried to sell me other types of spurge. One person told they get most their seeds from one place in eastern Canada ( can't remember the name but started with "R".), I checked with them and said it wasn't available , that's why I ordered from Australia which was very easy. |
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thanks01
170 Posts |
Posted - 07/19/2009 : 16:00:56
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Dan, thanks for the new map (which explains to me why I have trouble finding E. Peplus in NE) and for the link to the old archive, which contains interesting material on Petty Spurge used as a treatment. I'll mention here also that I found the new thread called Jalapenos? (http://www.topicalinfo.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=557) to be interesting. Capsaicin cream for arthritis is sold in drugstores. I am trying a little of that on some spots now as I watch my Petty Spurge seedling grow. They still have a long way to go.
Reading the treatment link you provided, with various anecdotes, reminds me that here we are talking about TREATMENT for existing spots. A common complaint in some of those stories is the appearance of NEW spots, sometimes many at a time. A reminder that proper DIET to help PREVENT new spots is important also. I'm glad that this website addresses both ends of the problem.
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RidgebackDogs
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Posted - 07/19/2009 : 16:52:57
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Hi All! Thank you for your posts! i read them and i feel alot less "helpless"!
i have been searching for any pictures of skin being treated with petty spurge and have not found any so far - would like to see this before i try it - esp on my face. one of my biopsies came back as bcc.
THANKS01 - let me know how the arthritis cream works - i was looking at them the other day in the store but think i should let the bx heal up more before using.
if anyone else out there is using cymilium, petty spurge or methyl jasmonate or capsaicin cream and could take pix of their treatment and post - that would be great. i will take pix when i figure out what i want to hit this with.
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thanks01
170 Posts |
Posted - 07/28/2009 : 20:06:08
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Okay, I'll try to keep up with capsaicin (arthritis cream) updates, on that thread. It seemed interesting on some possible AKs. I took a couple of days off because I had some spread near my lips, but was outside on a windy day and the wind blew my hair across my lips and into my eyes. NOT GOOD. TAKE CARE of unexpected results if using on face. But I plan to come back to it when some other things here settle down a bit.
Meanwhile my Petty Spurge seedlings, though developing some leaves, are TINY! |
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mikE1
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Posted - 08/05/2009 : 21:12:41
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Originally posted by SoFl
Shoulder AK treatment update - a few weeks after treatment the area is now clear and the area treated has no visible signs that anything out of the ordinary ever existed. Now using on a more severe AK that could possibly be developing into SCC on opposite shoulder (symptoms, rough scaly patch 1/4 inch that routinely peels and occasionally bleeds if I pull off the peeling part) with similar results so far. All previously treated areas have remained clear including lower lip which feels fantastic.
Would it be possible for you to mail a few of the seeds to me? I would like to grow my own plants and will be happy o pay the postage. Thanks. |
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mikE1
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Posted - 08/05/2009 : 21:21:16
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Originally posted by thanks01
Dan, thanks for the new map (which explains to me why I have trouble finding E. Peplus in NE) and for the link to the old archive, which contains interesting material on Petty Spurge used as a treatment. I'll mention here also that I found the new thread called Jalapenos? (http://www.topicalinfo.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=557) to be interesting. Capsaicin cream for arthritis is sold in drugstores. I am trying a little of that on some spots now as I watch my Petty Spurge seedling grow. They still have a long way to go.
Reading the treatment link you provided, with various anecdotes, reminds me that here we are talking about TREATMENT for existing spots. A common complaint in some of those stories is the appearance of NEW spots, sometimes many at a time. A reminder that proper DIET to help PREVENT new spots is important also. I'm glad that this website addresses both ends of the problem.
I've ordered twice from the Australian source. The first shipment arrived and I was unable to germinate the seeds. I suspect the postal authorities irradiated them to kill them. The second shipment looked as if the envelope had been run thru a high-pressure roller. All seeds were smashed to a pulp. Now I'm trying to find someone who will mail me some liveseedsso that I can grow my own plants. If anyone outthere has some euphorbia peplus seeds that they can mail to me, please help. I'll be happy to pay the postage. My email is: mike.duckworth@harris.com Thanks. |
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thanks01
170 Posts |
Posted - 08/06/2009 : 14:25:41
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Mike, I think I should add to discussion about the current Australian source that the germination rate for my seeds seems to be exactly 50%. The packet contains thirty seeds. What you say is interesting about possible radiation.
I think I may email you about sending some seeds. |
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Dan A
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Posted - 08/06/2009 : 16:22:11
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SoFl
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Posted - 08/12/2009 : 14:50:11
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Originally posted by Dan A
Does anyone know how long the germination period is before they start sticking up though the soil? I planted mine a couple of weeks ago and still have'nt seen any sign.
I used the kind of potting soil that has foam balls in it so that it drains very well. I germinate the seeds by putting the potting soil in a pot, then placing a few seeds on the surface, and then watering every day keeping the soil moist. It takes about one week to 10 days for the seeds to germinate. I used the seeds from Australia to the US and the germination rate is near 100%...my difficulty has been in growing the seeds past 1 or 2 inch seedlings...the ones that go on to become mature adults is about only 1 or 2%. I think it has to do with hot weather. They don't seem to like hot weather at all.
Also this plant is an annual so they will die after they produce seeds, and one plant makes a lot of seeds. The first one I grew to maturity that cured everything on my body has now expired but I have a replacement going. |
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mikE1
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Posted - 08/15/2009 : 14:26:09
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Originally posted by thanks01
Mike, I think I should add to discussion about the current Australian source that the germination rate for my seeds seems to be exactly 50%. The packet contains thirty seeds. What you say is interesting about possible radiation.
I think I may email you about sending some seeds.
Update:
Someone was kind enough to mail me some seeds in an envelope. Unfortunately, this envelope also arrived having been run thru a roller, (just like the second batch from Australia) and all the tiny seeds were smashed. I've since mailed a box to this kind lady so that she could send some seeds with no chance of them being crushed by the postal authorities. It sure is hard getting hold of seeds, but the prospect of getting rid of skin cancer is well worth any effort it will take imo! Will report on germination, once I get some seeds intact. |
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thanks01
170 Posts |
Posted - 08/25/2009 : 20:12:19
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I am very eager to try the Petty Spurge. But at the moment my plants are extremely "petty" or SMALL. I planted the seeds in potting soil, rather than just garden dirt, but they are not taking to it the way most plants do. Perhaps it's just the lousy "perpetual spring" weather of gray and rain that we had for 3 months. I'm still hoping for some leaves to pick and some flowers and seeds, before fall.
Petty Spurge, Capsaicin, and also, still, Pancreatin (in skin cream) are my favorite 3 right now. As for Eggplant, I make sure to EAT it, not using it topically right now. My main trouble with myself is that I am back to that "glass of wine," which is bad for the Candida. I am enjoying it and wishing I did not.
Best to all. |
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mikE1
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Posted - 08/29/2009 : 18:34:33
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 Have good news to report. Was finally able to germinate 3x of the seeds, (thanks to an angel on this forum who sent me some of her last seeds). The little seedlings are about an inch high. The only way I have been able to germinate them is to put some between layers of wet paper towel in a sandwich bag, (to keep them from drying out) and leaving in refrigerator. After about a week, the seed splits open and a tiny white root peeked out. Then I transferred them to peat pots with "Jiffy Mix" starting mix (a king of potting soil) and put them in a protected spot outdoors. (Not in direct sun.) Seems to work pretty good. Anxiously awaiting the day when they are mature enough to provide some sap. If these will grow to maturity, may be able to get some seeds and make them available to whomever needs them. |
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mikE1
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Posted - 08/29/2009 : 18:38:12
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| Forgot to mention: If anyone on this forum wants to mail seeds. be sure to either out them in a box or use padded mailer like with bubble wrap. Reason is, the postal authorities have automated mail handling machinery that passes envelopes through rollers. The result is, (if you just send seeds in a flat envelope) seeds aresmashed to a pulp. Don't say I didn't warn you - happened to me three different times! |
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pollopool
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marsha
122 Posts |
Posted - 09/27/2009 : 01:42:34
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| SOFI, I am still using curaderm. I took a short break, after 2 years. Then started up again. I have three open lesions on my nose. Basically the whole top of my nose and a spot on the side, witch may or may not be starting to heal. The tip of my nose and the side are fairly deep. my question to you is if it was your nose would you start using petty spurge at this stage? |
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dlm
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Posted - 09/29/2009 : 02:15:50
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I have been apply Milkweed (Petty Spurge / Euphorbia peplus) to my nose and to two moles above my lip that I was meant to have burnt off. A student of mine mentioned the Milkweed so I thought I would try it. I applied it to two small areas on my nose and was amazed that it spread to nearly the whole of my nose! My nose swelled up to almost double the size and then I had puss type bubbles all over my nose. The same sort of thing happened to above my lip although it didn't spread like the nose one. I have felt really unwell of and on, and I can only imagine it is all the kill off. I have taken photos as a reference. It is day 7 now and I am still in a bit of a mess. I can not go out in public and lucky for me I am on holiday. My husband who started a couple of moles a day before me has just had one scab fall off. I am applying the Milkweed as suggested above, every day, even over the scabs. I find, funny enough, that after a shower they all really sting. Its like severe sunburn. I am really looking forward to the results. A couple of times I have thought..what have I done? ...but I am keeping with it and will keep taking photos as reference.
Can someone tell me..once the scab falls off..do you keep applying the Milkweed or at that point, you just let it heal itself?
I certainly have a new respect for Milkweed. It now is welcome to grow where ever it likes in our garden |
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RidgebackDogs
103 Posts |
Posted - 10/04/2009 : 00:31:08
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Hi dim!
Check further back in this thread there are posts from SoFl who talks about how he (she?) used the petty spurge - also there was someone from OZ that SoFl was in contact with about how to use it (by email on this forum i assume).
Any pix you could post of your treatment with Petty Spurge could only be a tremendous help to others! Thanks for your post and your contribution. Hope the info above helps - you will have to go back to June posts and a little further or even use the search engine on the forum.
Good luck! you are in my prayers!
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anivoc
668 Posts |
Posted - 10/04/2009 : 19:32:19
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Hi DLM
I have to say that it seems milkweed causes a very similar reaction to bloodroot paste. If it were me, based on this assumption ( and that is all it is) after the scab fell off I would let the area heal up and watch to see if it seems OK. If it seemed that there is still problems I'd reapply the next time I was able to stay home for a few weeks again.
I have found a company in Arizona called Phytomedx that is selling a diluted to 5% solution of milkweed sap. They are selling it for dealing with genital warts, actinic keratosis and ringworm.
Rather than hijack this thread I am going to start a new one with my results to date.
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thanks01
170 Posts |
Posted - 10/04/2009 : 20:15:27
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Anivoc,
Thanks for this. Can you post us the information on how to get this petty spurge solution so that we can try some? I am one of the ones who ordered seeds from Australia and had poor luck in growing them. As MiKe1 pointed out somewhere, the seeds appear to have suffered from radiation going through customs. My plants grew very poorly for a WEED and I consider this season lost on that count. However, I am interested to try this spurge. Thx. |
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dlm
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Posted - 10/13/2009 : 01:55:44
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Ok...no laughing at these photos! It took 3 weeks from my first application of milkweed till I was completely healed up. My nose and upper lip are still slightly pink(just over 3 weeks) but I must say I am very impressed with the results.
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 /Final results Day 20 |
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dlm
12 Posts |
Posted - 10/13/2009 : 01:57:54
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I am now using aloe vera straight from the plant on my nose and upper lip while they are still abit pink and sensitive.
I used the Milkweed (Euphorbia Peplus) once a day until the scabs came off. Do not pick at the scabs or be tempted to take them off as you will scar. |
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dan
611 Posts |
Posted - 10/14/2009 : 01:29:31
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| Well done, dlm! There ought to be an animated fireworks gif for these results. Thanks, it was great that you included the photos. |
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dlm
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Posted - 10/15/2009 : 02:55:49
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| Thanks:) My nose is looking amazing now. I am now applying to dodgy moles on my legs and they have started to react already. But the moles on my hands haven't reacted..so I am guessing that the milkweed only reacts on precancerous or cancerous cells..or perhaps abnormal skin cells. As it doesn't react on some spots and they can be right next door to each other. |
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anivoc
668 Posts |
Posted - 10/15/2009 : 19:08:25
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Woo Hoo!
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dlm
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RidgebackDogs
103 Posts |
Posted - 10/18/2009 : 15:51:05
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DLM,
Wahoooooo!
Thank you so very, very much for the pix!!!!
Did you cover the areas with a bandage of any kind or tape? How did you keep your hair out it???
Did you wash it off at any time after applying it - like at bedtime?
Thanks for your info. It is SO VERY appreciated with much gratitude!!!! |
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RidgebackDogs
103 Posts |
Posted - 10/18/2009 : 15:58:29
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Anivoc,
Thanks for the fireworks!!! 
Nice touch for dlm! |
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dlm
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Posted - 10/21/2009 : 02:57:10
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Did you cover the areas with a bandage of any kind or tape? How did you keep your hair out it???
Did you wash it off at any time after applying it - like at bedtime?
Hi there..no I didn't cover with any bandage...I did try once but they just didn't work with my nose or my upper lip...odd shapes..
I have short hair so it didn't come into contact with the areas.
I didn't purposely wash it off ever...normally I would apply it after a shower.
I did make sure I applied it every day, even when it was scabbing, only stopping once the scabs came off.
Good luck. Diana |
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RidgebackDogs
103 Posts |
Posted - 10/23/2009 : 22:05:38
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Diana Hi!
Thanks for the info. Did the sap dry out and not tend to go anywhere else on your face? Did you wash down area where you applied it like SoFl did (sink, counter top etc?). Again, thanks for sharing the pix and the info!!!
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dlm
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Posted - 10/24/2009 : 00:59:47
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| Yes the sap does dry out or it is absorbed into the mole or skin, usually straight away...but sometimes it would take up to a minute to absorb. I always applied it in the bathroon and I must admit didn't wash down the area. You do have to be careful when you snap a bit off the plant as the milky sap can flick off the plant...so watch your eyes. I always had my glasses on when doing this. I am now doing my legs, one mole isn't doing much but another one is alot like the ones above my lips. When we go away, we put the milkweed with its roots in a plastic bag with a little water for the roots to sit in. It lasts for quite a few days doing this. |
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clearlake
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Posted - 11/01/2009 : 13:27:12
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| Hello first time poster - I purchased some seeds from the url on this list and have been growing some petty spurge. I have them going in 2 different windowsills to see which one does better. They are both thriving. Wondering when I will be able to use sap/leaves. They are 3 weeks old now/approx. I would post a photo, which I have prepared per instructions, but there is no "paper clip" icon at the bottom of the edit window next to the text "Insert an Image File". I'm on a mac, not a pc. Using Safari and Firefox. Please advise. Clearlake |
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thanks01
170 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2009 : 16:15:48
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Clearlake,
My seeds did so poorly. 3 of 4 plants that got started are still alive, indoors now in NE, and only about two inches tall, after the whole summer. I got a couple of seedpods and am hoping for stronger plants next year. I grew them in ordinary potting soil, where I thought they would do well. My thinking is that possible radiation during passing through customs from Australia weakened the seeds and stock. That's why I hope for next year. However, I'm glad to hear that someone is succeeding with this. You give us hope. |
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dlm
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Posted - 11/01/2009 : 21:09:18
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| Hi Clearlake, You can use the petty surge as soon as it is big enough. The stems should look reasonably fleshy. You need to make sure the plant gets plenty of water to assist in the fleshy stems. The only trouble is, you want enough of the plant to last you for your whole treatement. I was going through quite abit with mine. We have it growing as a weed in the garden so we have plenty of it. Instead of pulling it out, we now protect and bless it :) |
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clearlake
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Posted - 11/02/2009 : 11:11:54
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Thanks for the feedback DIM and THANKS1
I've uploaded my little plant photos online so you can see how they are doing (there is a spoon in the photo to show scale). These are two sets of seedlings in 2 different windowsills.
Also, I followed the advice on sprouting the seeds from the info on this site as well as referencing a good article titled "How to Grow Plants From Seed" that I found online - but the url is too long to copy here, just google it. Clearlake |
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dan
611 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2009 : 21:22:18
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| Hi Clearlake, thanks for noticing the "insert an image file" paperclip thing was broken (and for being resourceful in posting the link to the pictures!). I think the inline image mechanism is working again. I feel bad, it must have been broken for quite a while. |
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dlm
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Posted - 11/06/2009 : 01:53:01
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| Hi Clearlake, I would wait until the plants are much bigger. With alot more stems. But they are looking great. |
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clearlake
25 Posts |
Posted - 11/07/2009 : 17:44:51
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| Thanks DIM - that's exactly what I needed to know. I have been looking closer at the photos of mature petty spurge online (having never seen it in person) and the plants do seem MUCH bigger. The stalks are thick. I'm trying to be patient, but I'm just kind of desperate to be hitting some spots on my face, similar to yours on upper lip. I've been using bloodroot in the meantime, and you know how much fun that is . . . Clearlake |
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janagain
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Posted - 11/16/2009 : 16:13:07
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| All you who have sprouted petty spurge seeds, could you please tell me what the seeds look like: size, shape, color? I have a US contact who may be able to get seeds from plants in his yard but wants to be sure what he is gathering is petty spurge. Does anybody know if the plant changes color in the fall? If I am successful in getting the plant to grow, I will be happy to share the bounty. I have not been able to find seeds anywhere in the US, which I find hard to believe since it is a weed! Please, growers, help! |
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SoFl
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Posted - 11/24/2009 : 12:03:36
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Originally posted by janagain
All you who have sprouted petty spurge seeds, could you please tell me what the seeds look like: size, shape, color? I have a US contact who may be able to get seeds from plants in his yard but wants to be sure what he is gathering is petty spurge. Does anybody know if the plant changes color in the fall? If I am successful in getting the plant to grow, I will be happy to share the bounty. I have not been able to find seeds anywhere in the US, which I find hard to believe since it is a weed! Please, growers, help!
The seeds are extremely small, on the order of 1mm or smaller. You can get the seeds in Australia from a link posted earlier in the thread and they aren't expensive.
There are a lot of very similar looking weeds. Petty Spurge propagates by the seed pods exploding when they reach a certain temperature and one plant makes a whole lot of seeds. Save yourself some aggravation and make sure you're getting the real thing.
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SoFl
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Posted - 11/24/2009 : 12:07:37
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SoFl here just logging in to say that although it's only been a 3-6 months since I treated a total of 6 areas with Petty Spurge, lip (confirmed SCC and almost 20 years of pain, issues and treatments), shoulder, leg (2 spots), face (confirmed BCC) and Arm (confirmed SCC) I have had no recurrence and I don't think I'm going to. As far as I'm concerned, this is THE cure. After years of going to the dermatologist every 3 months, I have no use for him now unless I see something I think is melanoma (already had one of those too).
I am currently always keeping at least one live plant growing all the time, and I have made an extract by taking live leaves and their stems and putting them in distilled water then crushing the plant material. I keep a reserve of that in the refrigerator. It seems that is almost as strong as the pure white sap but not quite. It seems to keep well in the refrigerator, I have some now about 6 months old.
Best of luck to everyone trying this weed (be careful not to get it in your eye).
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SoFl
79 Posts |
Posted - 11/24/2009 : 12:18:17
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Originally posted by marsha
SOFI, I am still using curaderm. I took a short break, after 2 years. Then started up again. I have three open lesions on my nose. Basically the whole top of my nose and a spot on the side, witch may or may not be starting to heal. The tip of my nose and the side are fairly deep. my question to you is if it was your nose would you start using petty spurge at this stage?
All I can say is that it worked wonders wherever I used it. The Petty Spurge seems to go directly for the cancer and leave the other tissue pretty much alone. The most severe reaction I had was on my forehead on a large BCC which was only partially removed by biopsy. When I used the PS, it ate away the skin in an irregular area which was not apparent prior to treatment. It knew where to go. Now it's been around 6 months and I have no visible scar, whereas I did have a biopsy scar prior to the treatment, so I'm thrilled with the result.
Also, the recommended treatment (MOHS surgery) I doubt would have been effective due to the irregular shape. In other words, there was one area where they would have had a free margin and yet more cancer a few mm away.
Also, for me, it works very fast. It's done doing it's work in 5 days or less when you use the pure white sap and it doesn't take much, probably about 1/5 the size of a water droplet.
Since I considered my use of it experimenting on my own body, I'm not in a position to say what you should or shouldn't do. I can say I was hesitant to use it on my lip but it was painless compared to efudex and appears to have permanently cured what was an ongoing problem for years. I had used everything on my lip, efudex, solaraze, imoquad, everything.
In the future I'll use it anywhere. I'm not scared of it any more and know what to expect. |
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Petty Spurge Herb sap for skin cancers
