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waverider
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 Posted - 10/01/2015 : 15:55:18
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| I would be hesitant about using DMSO to enhance absorption of petty spurge. DMSO is a wood solvent. I'm not sure (maybe someone else is, and can tell us) whether or not it might somehow chemically react with, or otherwise neutralize the natural chemotherapeutic effect of PS active ingredients. If I had a BCC or SCC outbreak that I really wanted to knock out — versus something I just wanted to experiment with — I think I'd just stick with the pure natural sap and not get fancy. Use staged, multiple re-applications separated by idle healing time if necessary. |
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agare
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Posted - 10/01/2015 : 21:38:28
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Hi Bob and waverider,
The surgeon said that the BC sends out roots, and that these could get into cartilage or into the joins in one's skull. It was my inference that the BC tumor could enter the muscle. It would not alter the muscle cells as such, but they would be penetrated by the BC cancer cells, just as the cancer cells protrude from the surface. MOHS surgery was developed in USA. I discussed this with the surgeon, who as a plastic surgeon said it was not something he could do. He would not know how to get the samples checked,and I guess would not want to spend half a day or more involved in this procedure. My operation took half an hour. I am in Australia, by the way.
One thing I left out of viable treatments in my earlier email was vitamin C. This appears to work, and its mechanism is understood. Some people said it could be excruciatingly painful, while others got good results. It involves putting on a concentrated solution of vitamin C. This has to be done frequently, and the solution does not penetrate deeply, so it is similar but not as good as petty spurge as far as I can tell.
Another promising substance is extract of sweet wormwood, but I found nothing on efforts to use this on skin cancer. Mostly it focussed on breast cancer, and best results are had by taking iron supplements along with the sweet wormwood. The active ingredient is not in the oil, and I guess it might be difficult to get this to the skin cancer cells. However, it seems to kill cancer cells at far higher ratio than most other treatments, and when combined with iron is 100% effective.
On DMSO, this works when combined with tea tree oil. Also, someone spoke of an exchange he had had with Dr Bill Cham who developed Curaderm, saying this turbocharges Curaderm. So in these cases DMSO does not destroy the active ingredient. I contacted the people from Curaderm suggesting that I use DMSO with Curaderm on my face, and was advised just to use the Curaderm (after they had contacted Dr Cham). DMSO might react and neutralize petty spurge, but this can't be assumed. My guess is that DMSO can be dangerous on one's face because there it it so much more complicated than elsewhere, and it could allow chemicals to get where they should not be, for instance, into one's brain. If I got a nodular BC elswhere I would be inclined to experiment with this.
I think the frankincense option is important to consider, and it is something that might work with Marsha, or anyone who has a difficult BC on their nose. It would require patience, but if one were to work at it, applying it a few times a day for six months, it might do the trick. The trouble is that there is a cult of essential oils leading people to dismiss these, ignoring the cases where they do actually work. Improving penetration is still a problem. The essential oils people talk about carrier oils, such as almond oil, grapeseed oil, or appricot kernal oil. These might function like a mild form of DMSO, but they might not. Tea tree oil is very thin, but according to the research, it does not work by itself.
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waverider
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Posted - 10/02/2015 : 06:31:19
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I certainly agree with the use of DMSO with vitamin C. I actually think it's pretty much *required* as the molecules of ascorbic acid don't penetrate particularly well. When I used the "C" method without DMSO I would always tend to get fast-acting clearance on the surface, followed by unstable scabbing over. Yet deeper effectiveness was problematic. Second to petty spurge, Vitamin C with DMSO may be the best DIY option available. As you say, the mechanism is well understood and positive results are too widely reported to be simply dismissed as random quirks.
I think Mohs is vastly over-sold in the US, often pushed even when cosmetic issues aren't involved. The simpler procedure you got is just as good and certainly less expensive. But it isn't the driver of profits like Mohs is. |
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agare
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Posted - 10/05/2015 : 22:31:29
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Just an addition to my previous message, the scientific study of frankincense can be found here: http://www.oapublishinglondon.com/article/656. I think this important because it is very simple, just putting in on a few times a day, where those promoting essential oils generally call for such complex approaches that people are likely to give up. Also, this shows conclusively that it works. I think it might be particularly valuable for use on one's face.
Apart from this, I would like to endorse waverider's suggestions for treating difficult skin cancers with petty spurge, especially when not on one's face.I think that it should be possible to cure the most difficult cases where sensitive areas such as the nose (as in Marsha's case) are not involved. It could be that one needs to judge the right amount to use. If one uses too much, too many good cells suffer, whereas a lower concentration might not damage these cells but still work on the cancer cells.Anyway, using petty spurge sap, leaving breaks for the skin to heal, using it again etc. should be the way to go. I think one should do this a couple of times even after the skin cancer seems to be healed to make sure that one has got it all.
This conclusion has been reached after reading a great deal on these websites, noting that waverider has long been a participant and so is in a good position to judge. Also, thank you waverider for continuing to participate, since you are providing judgements that are, by virtue of your long involvement, more reliable.
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mrjay
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Posted - 11/10/2015 : 09:05:59
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New here and quite impressed with the information on this site.
Hoping to find some plants, I went out for a run/walk yesterday morning on one of the local trails where I suspected I could find petty spurge, and since the wild anise is in seed now I was really hoping to pluck some petty spurge with seed pods. I am sure I've seen it in the area in years past but the drought in So Cal has changed things a bit. About 50 feet uphill from the stream, I finally saw 4 or 5 young petty spurge plants ranging from 4"-8" tall.
I plucked a small branch and applied a 1.5mm drop of the sap to a 5mm AK on my arm and continued on with my run.
After lunch, I went back with a plastic baggy and pulled one of the plants to take home. Since it came up with the roots, I put it in moist potting soil and hope it will take root.
After potting it, I pulled one lower leaf. The stem produced a 1.5mm ball of sap that I collected with a flat dental tool and put that drop on the 5mm AK, using the tool to massage it in for a few seconds. This morning, the AK is red and slightly swollen, I cleaned it with soap/water and peroxide before plucking one more leaf from the little plant. This time, the sap ball was half the size, so I'll leave this little potted plant alone. I'm off work this week and will go back to the trails today to search for more plants and get another treatment right on the trail. Worst comes to worst, I will pluck one more of the small plants to take home and create a tincture so I can finish off this one small AK. If this successfully removes the AK and the little PS plant survives in the pot, I have two 10mm spots on my back to treat with PS.
Below is a pic of the petty spurge in the baggy and freshly potted.
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mrjay
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Posted - 11/10/2015 : 23:38:59
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mrjay
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Posted - 11/10/2015 : 23:45:11
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Day 2 of my PS treatment for the small (5mm dia) AK. I applied sap from my freshly potted plant this morning and then went out to the trails to find more. No luck after walking several miles of other trails.
So, I went back to the patch I found yesterday and applied one more small drop of sap to the AK and took a tiny 4" tall plant home in a baggy that I am keeping in the fridge. After showering this evening, I applied another small drop of sap from that specimin.
This AK started out as a 5mm diameter dry spot and it lit up a bright red after I had been alternating vit C and a ACV/eggplant solution on it and another AK for several days. I was doing the same with a larger AK on top of my wrist that had minimal reaction to that same treatment. I am now treating that one by rubbing in a mix of vit E/vit A/selenium along with a bit of coconut oil.
With 2 days of applying PS sap, the 5mm AK is now slightly blistered and an area of about 15mm diameter is slightly swollen, with the 5mm blister being in the center of that. I plan to apply PS sap again tomorrow, morning/mid-day/evening, and again the following day if my plant specimen holds out.
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mrjay
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Posted - 11/13/2015 : 15:49:49
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It is now day 5.
The PS plant that I transplanted from the wild on day 1 seems to be doing OK, as it produced 1.5mm drop of sap when I pulled a leaf off the main branch for my final treatment yesterday.
I never had pain or itching from the PS sap, which I applied twice or 3 times per day to the 5mm diameter AK for 3 days and once on the morning of the 4th day.
This 5mm AK got red and swollen on day 2, blistered up on day 3, the blister was dry on the morning of day 4 and applying a drop of sap had no noticeable effect; on Day 5 the 5mm spot is now a yellowish scab in the middle of a 12mm diameter red spot. |
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waverider
76 Posts |
Posted - 11/14/2015 : 08:41:35
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That description sounds like the typical progression. My general rule of thumb is three to five days of application, then give it a rest and see how it heals up. You can always go back and hit it again.
Congrats on finding PS growing wild in SoCal. Several years ago when I first got into this, I actually hiked into various areas around here where PS had been observed, according to a map of SoCal rare plants. Never could find any in the wild at the time, so I gave up and ordered seeds from AUS. Later, I was doing some work at a house up in the hills during a cold, rainy February. In the backyard (among lots of weeds and discarded junk) there was practically a forest of petty spurge growing. So, you never know .... |
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srains99
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Posted - 11/14/2015 : 09:11:05
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| Agree with waverider. Let the scab fall of on its own. Very hard to do when it itches and starts coming off. |
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timmygyu
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Posted - 11/23/2015 : 13:04:13
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I have a few petty spurge in my garden, and one scrawny plant inside. Suddenly, I'm not getting milky sap out of any of them. All I get is a little clear fluid, not enough to harvest. Why would this be?
I harvested some for several days, ending about 3 days ago. We had a cold spell after that, though it's not the first cold spell of the season. My plants are still green, though the stalks on the outdoor plants are starting to turn a little reddish. The indoor plants are not nearly as mature as the outdoor plants -- just starting to flower -- and, obviously, are in a more temperate enviroment.
Has anyone seen this before? If so, is this a seasonal thing, or related to the lifecycle of the plants? |
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waverider
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Posted - 11/23/2015 : 18:38:52
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I associate that clear fluid with a plant that's in the end stage of its life cycle. I don't know how old your PS plants are, but in the past whenever mine have entered the terminal phase they have that clear liquid instead of milky sap and then they die. Here in CA, PS is definitely a winter annual and doesn't stand the summer heat well. Now is the beginning of the optimum growing season. I have a couple of really beautiful new PS plants taking off. However, several others that I planted too early sprouted during the heat of the summer—then hit an extreme heat wave in Sept.—and now they appear very stunted. I doubt they will thrive.
One thing you can do with a PS plant that's past its prime and you expect to lose is cut up the leaves and stalk and put them all together into a small glass bottle with just a little distilled water. Then use something to pulverize the leaves and stalk and water together into a tincture of smashed-up plant and watery residual sap that leeches out of the leaves and plant fibers. Leave the mixture together in the bottle to "brew" and keep it in the refrigerator. Tincture is unpredictable: I have made some that came out extremely strong and had great results while another batch was only semi-potent. The tincture process is well described by others earlier in this thread. Only other thing I can advise is to plant some more now if you're in N. America as this is the best season. If you get hard freezes you may have to keep it indoors. |
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timmygyu
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Posted - 12/02/2015 : 01:35:17
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Thanks for the thoughtful, informative reply waverider. Sorry for not responding sooner.
I am going to try the tincture idea as the condition of the plants doesn't seem to be changing. I would like to plant some more, but I'm out of my Australian seeds, and my plants aren't quite mature enough yet for the seeds to viable, so it will be a week or two until I plant some. I'm in southern illinois, we usually get a few days of really cold weather (<10 Fahrenheit) every year, so I'll probably have to grow them indoors. |
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mrjay
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Posted - 12/13/2015 : 17:21:11
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The Petty Spurge plant that I transplanted from the wild on November 10 is still surviving.
The spot on my arm that I treated with PS sap has healed and the skin at that location looks normal. It has no reaction to orange oil, whereas it stung a bit when I put orange oil on it prior to using the PS sap on it. |
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waverider
76 Posts |
Posted - 12/18/2015 : 08:20:09
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Thanks for updating. Another score for PS.
When people say "I'm trying this or that" and then are never heard from again here, the assumption is often that the treatment did not work. It's important to hear when it does work (as well as when it doesn't.) |
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judo
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Posted - 12/18/2015 : 08:37:56
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Since May this year I have used PS again twice on the offending item on my scalp. It always reacts and I always give it three days of once a day treatment, then a week or so later the scab comes off and each time it has looked better but always seems to keep itching and scabs again, albeit smaller a week or so later.
I had it diagnosed by a derm but there was never a biopsy done and I'm at a bit of a loss with it now. Should I keep using PS until it stops coming back? I actually made an appointment with another Dr I'm that fed up with it but I'm reluctant to go because I don't trust them! |
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BobCA
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Posted - 12/18/2015 : 08:56:03
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| The only way to know for sure what you have is to have a biopsy. I would see another derm and ask for a biopsy. Don't know why that would an issue unless he feels he's not going to get paid. |
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judo
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Posted - 12/18/2015 : 08:59:50
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Thanks Bob - it's NHS so payment isn't an issue. The last one I saw stuck his thumb nail into it to diagnose it as AK. Hesitant to return because he actually made it worse!
I'm now with a different Dr so hopefully will be a better outcome.
Many thanks. |
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anivoc
668 Posts |
Posted - 01/06/2016 : 11:16:30
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Hi Judo,
I was following your journey with Iodine...you quit posting in that thread..
Please share your final thoughts on Iodine and what your end result was with the one you were treating...if you took pictures that would be great for you to share also..
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judo
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Posted - 01/07/2016 : 00:43:18
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Hi Tom,
No picture that I can find I'm afraid but it was a messy time. Luckily the patch of skin was on the back of my neck so I could hide it to some extent. The iodine didn't work for me although I did give it a good go, treating plenty of times each day for the recommended periods. It did scan as described but never disappeared.
For this reason, and the fact we have it growing wild in our garden, I decided to try Petty Spurge. The results with PS are much faster but after time the patch of skin has flared up again, then I treat it again for 3 days and it goes away for another couple of months.
Obviously I want to be rid of these things if possible and I'm a firm believer that what we put into our bodies has a big effect overall. With the lack of permanent solution from the topical therapies, I have decided to see a Naturopath next week to have my diet looked at and my vitamin levels, amongst other things checked. I believe I have a systemic yeast infection/candida and I am aware that this can mimic all sorts of other conditions, so if I can get this under control then I might be on the right track.
I'll report back and let everyone know how I get on. Best of luck with your own treatments.
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judo
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Posted - 01/07/2016 : 00:45:23
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Madame
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Posted - 01/11/2016 : 12:02:24
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| Hi, I'm new here, but have been reading this topic with great interest. I am wondering if there is anyone out there that has been able to find petty spurge in southern Louisiana. The map that someone provided shows that it grows in Terrebonne Parish, but I am wondering if anyone has had any luck finding PS in Louisiana. Any help would be much appreciated! I have a friend with a very large BCC on his face that I am trying to help... |
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Madame
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Posted - 02/02/2016 : 09:38:08
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| If anyone has seeds that they could send me, please email me so we can make arrangements. Thanks! |
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IanL
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Posted - 02/16/2016 : 07:20:11
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Hi There,
I am new to this forum so if this has been covered before, apologies.
There are several suppliers of Petty Spurge in Australia and I know they will happily ship to the U.S. I'm an avid user of the sap from the plant and have successfully treated myself for several years now. Here are some links. Hope this helps.
http://www.bodyplantsaus.com/ *Also sell on ebay & amazon
http://fairdinkumseeds.com/
http://www.radiumweed.com.au/ *Have written an ebook on the plant
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If anyone has seeds that they could send me, please email me so we can make arrangements. Thanks!
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Madame
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Posted - 02/18/2016 : 09:05:52
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| Thanks for the info IanL. Someone is sending me seeds... |
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IanL
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Posted - 05/01/2016 : 20:40:11
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Originally posted by Madame
Thanks for the info IanL. Someone is sending me seeds...
Hi Madame,
How did you go growing the seeds? One thing I have found (and, hopefully your seed supplier warned you) is watch where you use the sap. I was careless enough to treat a basal cell carcinoma above my eyebrow over summer and the sweat on my brow managed to move some of the sap to top of my eye (albeit somewhat diluted at that stage). Apart from the immediate pain, I risked the threat of temporary blindness, not a particularly smart move on my part. I will be rethinking how I use this treatment when it comes to facial lesions. The carcinoma is gone by the way! |
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BobCA
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Posted - 05/01/2016 : 20:53:15
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My yard in Northern CA is full of plants but I never have much luck in transplanting them and growing in pots. I'm curios to hear from others their experience. I wish I knew a way to get live plants to people, I literally have hundreds.
Regarding facial lesions: I strongly recommend treating once per day, right before bedtime, for 3 days. That will prevent sweating into other areas and your eyes are closed as well. Any longer than 3 days and you risk the IM attacking normal cells that are rapidly dividing healthy cells to heal the dead cells created by the IM.
All the best. |
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IanL
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Posted - 05/01/2016 : 21:45:58
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Originally posted by BobCA
My yard in Northern CA is full of plants but I never have much luck in transplanting them and growing in pots. I'm curios to hear from others their experience. I wish I knew a way to get live plants to people, I literally have hundreds.
Regarding facial lesions: I strongly recommend treating once per day, right before bedtime, for 3 days. That will prevent sweating into other areas and your eyes are closed as well. Any longer than 3 days and you risk the IM attacking normal cells that are rapidly dividing healthy cells to heal the dead cells created by the IM.
All the best.
Thanks for that BobCA. Yes, I have also found that 3 treatments (one per day) is max and have never had to go beyond that. I'll take your advice on the late evening schedule. That would definitely be a safer approach.
I've had mixed results transplanting from garden to pot. Find that they tend to suffer from shock initially but then come good after a few days. I take 2-3 plants together and as much of the root and surrounding dirt as possible (usually use an old spoon as garden spades too big for the job) and then leave them in the exact same area for a few days (in the pots). Also use the widest vessels I can find to allow for self seeding. Have probably only had about a 50% survival rate with this approach which is not great, but something at least.
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Madame
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Posted - 05/02/2016 : 16:48:16
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Originally posted by Madame
Thanks for the info IanL. Someone is sending me seeds...
Hi Madame,
How did you go growing the seeds? One thing I have found (and, hopefully your seed supplier warned you) is watch where you use the sap. I was careless enough to treat a basal cell carcinoma above my eyebrow over summer and the sweat on my brow managed to move some of the sap to top of my eye (albeit somewhat diluted at that stage). Apart from the immediate pain, I risked the threat of temporary blindness, not a particularly smart move on my part. I will be rethinking how I use this treatment when it comes to facial lesions. The carcinoma is gone by the way!
IanL, funny you should ask. My seeds grew well, and just started treatment on my friend yesterday. Ironically, his BCC is just above the eyebrow like yours. Actually starts a bit below the eyebrow and extends back to his temple. It's very large. He did not put much sap on yesterday, and did not have much of a reaction. Today, he put a large dose on, so we shall see what happens. I had already warned him about getting any in his eye, but I passed along your warning as well. Thanks! I'll keep you posted... |
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IanL
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Posted - 05/02/2016 : 21:44:23
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| Good luck with that Madame. That method (and approach) that BobCA suggested in his last post seems to be the best way to deal with treating facial lesions. Getting this stuff in the eye is a truly painful experience. Despite the risks involved I'm a firm believer that Petty Spurge sap has kept my BCC's under control and sure beats the surgical alternative! I still have those scars all over my body and don't wish to go down that path again! |
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KMWS
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Posted - 05/10/2016 : 16:55:28
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Hi Everyone:
I've been away from the forum for a few months, but back in circulation now. My Petty Spurge plants are doing well and I've saved enough seed to provide for anyone who needs some. I've had a BCC about the size of a nickel on my nose for over a year. Another one the size of a quarter on my RH forehead for over two years. Nothing I've tried has had much effect on either of these until now. My nose is completely cleared up, (praise the Lord!) and my forehead is well on the way to being cleared up. I thank God for His wisdom in leading to me to this wonderful answer to a terrible scourge and I recommend it for anyone with BCC. It simply works! The seeds themselves are very tiny. Once germinated, they don't seem to need much care. The plants do not like extreme heat or cold. When mature, they form tiny flowers and seed pods. I will always keep some seed available for this remarkable plant which has done so much for me.
I am new and this site wouldn't allow me to email you so I'm posting to see if you still have any PS seeds available??? If so please send me an email and I will send you my address. Thanks in advance!
I haven't received a reply from mikE1 to my request for some Petty Spurge seeds so I am adding this request: If anyone has any extra Petty Spurge seeds that they can send me I would appreciate it if they would either reply to this post or send me a private email and I will reply with my address. Thanks ever so much!
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waverider
76 Posts |
Posted - 05/12/2016 : 15:40:06
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Hi KMWS:
It seems like you've already read thru this thread but... just in case you missed it: You can buy seeds from Australian sources that are listed above in the thread. They don't take all that long to get here to the US, two to three weeks. Just wanted to make sure you're aware of this so you don't feel like there aren't any alternatives. |
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KMWS
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Posted - 05/12/2016 : 15:54:09
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Originally posted by waverider
Hi KMWS:
It seems like you've already read thru this thread but... just in case you missed it: You can buy seeds from Australian sources that are listed above in the thread. They don't take all that long to get here to the US, two to three weeks. Just wanted to make sure you're aware of this so you don't feel like there aren't any alternatives.
I did order some seeds but the Post Office smashed them with their machines so they are totally worthless??? I was hoping that someone on this website would have some seeds and would package them in a padded envelope (as someone else suggested because of the same problem) for me so they don't get destroyed. I didn't want to spend more money ordering from Australia and have the same thing happen wasting my money.
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IanL
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Posted - 05/13/2016 : 05:09:05
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Hi KMWS,
These guys were one of the suppliers I previously listed and they claim to send their seeds in padded envelopes so they shouldn't suffer from Post Office mishandling. See: http://www.bodyplantsaus.com/order-seed-seedlings.html
I have a friend in Florida that ordered through them and the seeds arrived in good order. Hoping that's not who you used originally? Failing that, are there any suppliers in the US? I saw one recently advertising on ebay though I'm not sure if that was an individual or a business but they should be the same thing as the plant is obviously not native to Australia. I would send you some from here but not sure how to package safely and fear they may suffer the same fate!
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KMWS
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Posted - 05/13/2016 : 11:20:22
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Thanks IanL for the info.
I thought Petty Spurge was native to Australia???
Do you know where Petty Spurge is native to? |
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waverider
76 Posts |
Posted - 05/13/2016 : 12:12:02
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| Native to Europe but specifically believed to have originated in the British Isles. When you grow it here in US you can see how it likes that UK-type climate -- long cool seasons, damp, partly cloudy type weather, etc. Probably got to Australia via large waves of immigration from Britain. |
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waverider
76 Posts |
Posted - 05/13/2016 : 12:28:39
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| Also, KMWS, are you familiar with how tiny those PS seeds actually are -- even intact? Most photos online are greatly magnified. If you still have your smashed shipment you might want to examine what's left to see if some of them are actually intact. You would probably need a magnifying glass (I would, at least!) to examine the tiny pieces and tell if it's a broken fragment .... or still a viable, intact seed. They're so small some of them might have survived the smashing machine at the P.O. |
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KMWS
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Posted - 05/13/2016 : 13:01:16
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I did look as my smashed seeds with a magnifying glass and all of them were so close together that all of them were obviously smashed, but I still tried planting just in-case and none of them germinated??? I have a green thumb so I figured that the seeds were destroyed during shipping.
I was hoping that someone on this site will have some extra seeds to help me get started with my own Petty Spurge plants. |
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anivoc
668 Posts |
Posted - 05/15/2016 : 11:19:52
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| KMWS you live in So Cal like me...Petty Spurge grows all over So Cal..just become familiar with what the plant looks like and then go to the local nature preserve...you're pretty sure to find it... |
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BobCA
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Posted - 05/15/2016 : 12:11:42
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| Yes, I had a huge bloom in my yard this Spring in Northern Cal. Still lots of plants but they are starting to die off. |
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IanL
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Posted - 05/15/2016 : 21:47:21
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Hi KMWS,
Yes, definitely not native to Australia as Waverider suggested and also pretty sure they came to Australia from the UK via immigration as the early settlers were already using the plant to cure corns & warts back then (read that somewhere). Hopefully you can find them in the local nature reserve. I tried that here but didn't have a very good idea of how to recognize them so ordered seeds to be safe. Now that I've successfully grown a few I think it would be easy to spot them. That PO smashing machine must have been lethal to do such a great job on such small seeds. I wonder if even a padded envelope would have been much help! |
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KMWS
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Posted - 05/18/2016 : 12:52:10
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| Using Petty Spurge to get rid of "corns & warts" seems to be contradictory to what some people are saying that Petty Spurge only attacks 'cancer cells' and leaves other cells alone??? |
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BobCA
43 Posts |
Posted - 05/18/2016 : 13:15:54
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The active ingredient in Petty Spurge is Imgenol mebutate. It works on cells that are rapidly dividing. It actually causes cell death (necrosis) and the stimulates the body's own immune system to clean up the dead cells. This is why the scab forms.
Unless a corn has rapidly dividing calls, and they may, petty spurge won't do its thing. When the immune system is repairing the dead cells it is also generating new healthy cells that are also rapidly dividing. This is why it is recommended to only apply petty spurge once a day for 3 days. You will read here at times that someone will use it for an extended period and the hole gets bigger and never heals. That is the spurge killing healthy cells that are rapidly dividing. |
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KMWS
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Posted - 05/25/2016 : 13:42:57
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Originally posted by anivoc
KMWS you live in So Cal like me...Petty Spurge grows all over So Cal..just become familiar with what the plant looks like and then go to the local nature preserve...you're pretty sure to find it...
ANIVOC, can you please tell me which local nature preserve you found Petty Spurge at because I printed the photos found on this forum and took them to the Santa Ana River trail and couldn't find any Petty Spurge? Thanks! |
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anivoc
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Posted - 05/25/2016 : 14:29:57
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Hey KMWS I live in Covina "Anivoc" get it? ;)
I haven't looked this year as I am not using the petty spurge but I have seen it growing along the Pete Schabarum equestrian trail in the past in Rowland heights..I have it growing in my yard in Covina...Once you know what it looks like you'll see it everywhere...MY daughter lives in Orange and I saw it growing in her yard a few years back.,
Here's a link to the Schabarum park trail http://alltrails.com/trail/us/california/schabarum-regional-park-schabarum-trail |
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KMWS
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Posted - 05/25/2016 : 15:57:17
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Originally posted by anivoc
Hey KMWS I live in Covina "Anivoc" get it? ;)
I haven't looked this year as I am not using the petty spurge but I have seen it growing along the Pete Schabarum equestrian trail in the past in Rowland heights..I have it growing in my yard in Covina...Once you know what it looks like you'll see it everywhere...MY daughter lives in Orange and I saw it growing in her yard a few years back.,
Here's a link to the Schabarum park trail http://alltrails.com/trail/us/california/schabarum-regional-park-schabarum-trail
Thanks Anivoc! When you were in a ‘nature preserve’ did you find Petty Spurge in the open sun or in the shade? About how large were the Petty Spurge plants you saw in the wild? I’m just trying to find it somewhere locally while the seeds I received from a kind person on this forum grow so I can start using it now rather than later. |
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anivoc
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Posted - 05/26/2016 : 10:36:24
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The plants grow in shaded areas with very little sun..They don't seem to fare well in direct sunlight in my experience...They range in size with big ones being maybe a foot wide and tall to smaller like the ones in the link below. It's to a PDF of pictures I took this morning of the two that happened to sprout up in my back yard this spring.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-O_7KRmCMGwMVVSTDljYkZ0djA/view?usp=sharing |
Edited by - anivoc on 05/26/2016 10:38:18 |
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Petty Spurge Herb sap for skin cancers
