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Artsup

USA
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Posted - 07/12/2012 :  09:03:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi All
I had squamous cell on my nose three months agp.. I treated it with Vitamin C successfully so I thought. Externally it looks great, so good I have not had a biopsy.

Three days ago I began to get a funny feeling in the sinus area, and just a tad bit of what feels like numbness. No other symptoms at the present time.

Could it be that the cancer metastisized, but healed externally as though its cured? Has anyone on the forum report such a happening or have you heard of that happening so fast? I'm very concerned and cannot afford health insurance, so Im in a very precarious situation.
Thanks in advance for your replys.

anivoc

637 Posts

Posted - 07/14/2012 :  09:20:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Artsup

Can you let us know what you did i.e. what vitamin C (type /brand) you used, how you applied it and how long and how it worked for you? So many people posting but without really detailing what they did and usually without pictures. This information helps us all.

To answer the question could there still be more below. According to one dermatologist I spoke to this was his concern with using topicals vs the knife but dermatologist all over the world are using various topicals every day so who knows who's right. A lot of us here have used topicals successfully and a lot of us have had them come back after successfully knocking them out. That goes with both the medical and the alternative treatments. With skin cancer it is an ongoing battle though there are a lot of lifestyle changes that seem to help reduce the re-occurrences of these darn things.

If there is still skin cancer there it will continue to grow and come back up to the top eventually..I'd keep a very close eye on it. Then agian you may just have a sinus infection.

You mentioned that you do not have insurance so I am going to assume you did not get it biopsied. That would mean that you are not exactly sure which type of skin cancer you had or have. BCC's "Generally" stay localized. As I understand it Squamous metastasize but you need to know which you had.

For all you know it may have just been an Actinic keratosis and for sure those are non invasive but can evolve into the skin cancers mentioned above.

I notice that wherever I have a pre cancer or skin cancer they are sensitive and hurt if I press on them with my finger. The ones I have killed there may be a scar but after a few months they feel like regular skin when I press on them.

Just my opinion and that is just based on my own experience but if it is definitely sore or getting more sensitive then it is likely the lesion is still there underneath and will return to the top but definitely could grow underneath more as it does. It's the iceberg theory.. what you see on top is usually only about a third of what is down below.

If this is concerning you there are ways to see a doctor without insurance in most places around the world

Edited by - anivoc on 07/14/2012 09:21:56
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dan

603 Posts

Posted - 07/15/2012 :  23:32:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Artsup, the pressure test anivoc mentioned is a very useful indicator for skin cancer. It may just feel like there is a shard of glass under the skin. Also, I have found the orange oil test to be helpful in confirming if there is still skin cancer present. I apply the orange oil (Now brand, about $5 at GNC) topically to the area in question and if it stings within a minute or two that indicates to me there is probably skin cancer present. If there is no stinging then for me things are OK. The stinging can be intense but will diminish in about 25 minutes. Applying orange oil first on skin that is not affected is a good idea to gain confidence in the reading and to rule out a possible but unlikely allergic reaction. I find orange oil penetrates skin well but I suppose it probably can't reach a sinus.

I also worried a lot about the same issues and looked for every advantage to turn things around. Happily, that has worked out for me over the past eleven years.
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Artsup

USA
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Posted - 07/26/2012 :  06:42:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey Anivoc and Dan,

Thanks for your replys. My apologies for not following up earlier.

Well yesterday I saw a MOES derm. and he examined me from head to toe and then he said evidently my Vitamin C treatment on my nose actually worked! The cool thing was he had no derogatory comments about it.
He asked my to follow up in three months to recheck.

With regards to my treatment. I used plain ascorbic acid (Vitamin C) in a cap. I would dissolve it into a paste and apply to my nose several times a day. It took three days for it to start to work then it developed a yellow layer scab like formation. Then there was a black discharge in the center, that I would wipe away gently and reapply the paste and cover with a band aide to keep it moist.

Treatment time was approx. three to four weeks. It was a pain in the ars, but by far the better solution that MOES surgery and possible plastic surgery.

I stopped treatment when there was no more black discharge and when I applied the orange oil with no stinging.

Thanks again to DAN for putting up this informative sit!

All the best and God Bless.
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anivoc

637 Posts

Posted - 07/26/2012 :  11:27:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That is SOOOOOO COOOL! congrats!..If you took pictures it would be great for you to post some before and afters!
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Artsup

USA
11 Posts

Posted - 07/31/2012 :  09:36:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks anivoc! Yeah it is. My brother has the same condition and at the same time . Now he said he's going to give it a go. I will post pics in the next couple of days.

Ciao!
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gavin

USA
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Posted - 09/01/2012 :  10:38:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi, all.

I'm new to the forum, awaiting dermatologist visit but convinced I'm looking at an scc at the very top of my thigh, just beneath the bend in my leg. Glad to have found this forum, notice much talk about vitamin c for bcc but hearing from Artsup that it worked on his scc. Can anyone comment on the success rate for scc and vitamin c? Artsup, are you still in the clear (your last post was end of July)? Hoping for health and healing for you and all on this site.
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