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Thomas Haugen
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bonder
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 Posted - 04/07/2012 : 13:42:26
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LMAO,
I WAS USING THE MUSIC WHILE I RESEARCHED BUT, THE DAMN THING IS A VIDEO-HAVEN NOW SO, I KILLED IT.
THANX.
PICS ARE NOW THE SMALLER CHOICES AVAILABLE WITH THE FREE BLOGGER PROGRAM.
AS I SAID BEFORE, I REALLY DON'T EXPECT A REAL PERMANENT CHANGE UNTIL THE CBII THING OR IF LUCKY, MAYBE CURADERM.
BUT, IN THE MEANTIME, IF YOU START AT THE TOP PIC, YOU CAN SEE A BASICALLY OBLONG AND ROUNDED TUMOR.
AS YOU WORK YOUR WAY DOWN, IT APPEARS TO ME THAT THERE IS TISSUE CHANGE AND A (CAVING IN) IN THE RED AND EXPOSED AREA.
ALSO, SINCE THE NAC, AS A RESULT OR NOT, THERE SEEMS TO BE A (LIFTING) OF THE MASS WHEN YOU COMPARE THE 1ST PIC WITH THE LAST. I REALIZE IT IS A DIFFERENT ANGLE SO, JUST MAYBE TAKE MY WORD FOR IT.
ANVIOC'S PICS WERE THE FIRST EXAMPLE OF ESCHAROTICS I HAD SEEN AND THEY MOSTLY ALL GIVE THE WIDE-REDNESS AND THEN THE ROUND PLUG MASS THAT FALLS OUT OVER TIME. AS THESE ARE A BIT MORE SUPERFICIAL ACCORDING TO STUDY THAN WHAT I HAVE, I DON'T EXPECT THE SAME RESULTS ( ALTHOUGH IT WOULD BE NICE LOL).
IF LISANTI IS RIGHT AND THERE IS AS MUCH OF A REDUCTION IN SIZE RESULTING FROM NAC USE AS FROM HIS EXPERIENCE, PERHAPS I MIGHT GET LUCKY...
RIGHT NOW, ALL I CAN SEE HAPPENING IS MY IMMUNE SYSTEM CLEANING THINGS UP FROM THE INSIDE AND A WHITTLING DOWN OF TISSUE CELLS EITHER FROM MASS DESTRUCTION COMING FROM A SOLVENT MATERIAL OR THE INDEED COMBINING OF THE ASCORBIC WITH DMSO AS A SORT OF DYNAMIC ACCELERATOR.
MY THOUGHT IS THAT IF I CAN GET FAR ENOUGH DOWN WITHIN THE NEXT 30 DAYS AND WHATEVER I AM USING CAN GET INTO THE ROOTS AREA, THAT SAME UNDERNEATH CYLINDER MOST PEOPLE (PUSH OUT) AND TRY TO AVOID (PULLING OUT) TOO EARLY MAY BE THERE INTACT SO THAT IT CAN BE EITHER LIFTED OR WEAKENED AND THEN PASSED THROUGH MY SYSTEM.
AFTER READING ABOUT GREGG CATTON, I JUST DO NOT KNOW WHAT TO THINK ABOUT BLOODROOT AND ZINC CHLORIDE.
I NEED TO FIGURE OUT IF DR. CHAM THINKS CURADERM WON'T WORK FOR (ALL) SPOTS WITH SURGERY BEFOREHAND OR JUST THOSE THAT HAVE DISTURBED THE SUB-DERMAL AREA. I MEAN, IF ALL THE CAVEMEN DID WAS SHAVE OFF THE TOP, PERHAPS THE UNDERNEATH AREA IS STILL INTACT AND MIGHT NOT HAVE LEAKED ALL OVER?
SO, WHO KNOWS?
I PUT BOIK'S THINGS FURTHER UP ON THE SITE NOW THAT I'M ACTUALLY REMEMBERING WHO WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN MY EFFORTS.
HERE IS A REVIEW FOR THE BOOK ON CANCERAMERICAN.COM ONE CAN JUST DONATE TO AND GET...
This review is from: Natural Compounds in Cancer Therapy: Promising Nontoxic Antitumor Agents From Plants & Other Natural Sources (Paperback)
This book is one of the best books I have ever read, on any subject. In my opinion, this book is an absolute MUST for all cancer patients and their advocates. Every doctor should read this book, as well as every cancer research scientist.
I first began researching natural substances and their effect on cancer about four years ago, when my then 22-year-old brother was first diagnosed with a cancerous brain tumor. What I quickly learned was that the vast majority of people disseminating information on the subject were complete phonies, out to charge cancer patients outrageous prices for supplements that were unlikely to do them any good. Of the small percentage who actually seemed genuine, very few of these seemed to have an extensive knowledge of the subject, and fewer still were aware (or even concerned) of the science behind their recommendations. Of those who did seem to know the subject well, John Boik clearly stood out. It would not be an understatement to say that John Boik knows 1000X more about this subject than anyone else on the planet. Unlike most who have written on this subject, Boik does not take an “us against them” attitude regarding alternative vs. conventional medicine. Some of the most exciting research presented in his book actually comes from combining natural compounds with conventional chemotherapy. And, John Boik does NOT sell supplements or treatments of any kind. This alone scored him many points in my book.
Boik really takes it to the next level with this new book. Where his first book discussed several hundred compounds, this new book narrows the focus down to the 38 compounds he believes to have the most potential for benefit in cancer treatment. Nearly all of these 38 compounds are available commercially, and many are quite inexpensive. No claims are made whatsoever; Boik clearly states that much more research is needed throughout the book. However, in this reviewer’s mind, any cancer patient wanting to try alternative treatment in combination with conventional would be very wise to use a combination of natural compounds from this book. The science behind doing so is far, far greater than any alternative treatment out there.
Boik’s general premise throughout the book is that cancer should be attacked from every possible angle. According to Boik, there are seven procancer events that should be targeted. These seven events are: induction of genetic instability, abnormal expression of genes, abnormal signal transduction, abnormal cell-to-cell communication, induction of angiogenesis, invasion and metastasis, and immune evasion. Each of these presents a potential target for treatment. Boik’s theory states that all seven should be targeted. This is usually not done with conventional therapies. Conventional treatment generally targets only one of these events. It may be possible to effectively target all seven events with a combination of natural compounds.
This book is divided into three parts. Parts one and two examine cancer at the cellular level, and cancer at the level of the organism, respectively. After reading parts one and two, the reader will come away with a far greater understanding of what cancer is, how it comes to be, how solid tumors are formed, etc. This gives the patient and their advocates a far better understanding of what exactly this illness is they are dealing with. For medical professionals and scientists, this will likely be easy material, but well worth reading. For the layperson, parts one and two will be more challenging. I would guess that the more science one has had in school, the greater their understanding and enjoyment of parts one and two. However, even readers such as myself who have had no science beyond basic high school courses will get a lot out of these two sections, and come away with a much greater understanding of cancer. I simply skimmed areas that were “over my head” and digested areas that were clear to me. I came away having learned a lot from these two sections.
Part three is the most enjoyable, exciting part of the book in my opinion. This is the section that discusses in detail the 38 compounds most likely to have a positive effect on cancer. Part three opens with my favorite chapter in the book. This chapter discusses the exciting possibilities of synergistic interactions between natural compounds, and designing combinations of natural compounds. It also discusses how tentative doses are arrived at. The remaining chapters discuss each of the 38 most promising compounds in depth. Supporting research is presented for each and referenced at the end of each chapter. If any negative studies exist for a particular compound, these are presented as well. This book is incredibly well referenced, so anyone wanting to read abstracts or the actual studies will be able to, as most can be found on MEDLINE. The final chapter of the book discusses natural compounds and their effect on chemotherapy and radiotherapy. This is a very important subject.
Many of the compounds could cause chemotherapy and / or radiation to be more effective, and some have solid evidence supporting their use. Others have the possibility of protecting cancer from the effects of chemotherapy and radiation. These are both discussed in detail in the final chapter. The vast appendices contain supplemental information for various chapters, chemical structure diagrams for the 38 and other compounds, and information regarding dose calculations and predictive models, topics most intended for medical professionals and scientists.
This book is the BIBLE on the subject of how natural substances effect cancer. I strongly recommend this book to all cancer patients considering any form of alternative treatment and to their advocates as well. I predict that combinations of compounds discussed in this book will prove to be so useful, that even the medical establishment will embrace their use and these combinations will no longer be looked at as “alternative” treatments.
I cannot stress the importance of this book enough. If you, a friend or loved one has cancer, you should not be without this book.
Note: while I haven't checked in on him lately, he had an informative website last time I checked. It was this book that allowed me to make a picture out of the puzzle that one is faced with when first diagnosed.
Love, hope, success, health and joy to us all!
Claudia
HERE IS HIS 501 NON PROFIT
http://www.newearthbiomed.org
I AM CONSIDERING BECOMING INVOLVED... WOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
EMMA IS WEARING OUT HER LIPS AND SHE IS ONLY MY READING VOICE DROID....
direct-acting compounds
http://www.jbc.org/content/285/45/34557.full
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=+direct-acting+compounds%2BCANCER&oq=+direct-acting+compounds%2BCANCER&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=hp.3...444l3659l4l5744l6l6l0l0l0l0l116l604l3j3l6l0.frgbld.&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=3226d37ade666d03&biw=1230&bih=558
Synergistic Apoptosis Induced by Combination of Luteolin and EGCG
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=combination+of+luteolin+and+EGCG&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart&sa=X&ei=_vCAT-3HEoGhtwfv3IHLDw&sqi=2&ved=0CCcQgQMwAA
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1749-6632.2011.06104.x/full
I WONDER IF DAN THINKS IT IS OK THAT I HAVE A BANNER OF THIS SITE ON MY SITE? I HOPE SO.
BLOGGER IS WELL VISITED AND IT HAS MADE IT A HECKUVA LOT EASIER FOR ME TO KEEP THINGS IN ORDER AS I BATTLE THIS MENACE....
BE WELL ALWAYS,
BONDER |
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dan
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Posted - 04/09/2012 : 21:45:16
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| Bonder, I'm honored for the link and the banner. Thanks! |
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bonder
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bonder
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Posted - 04/10/2012 : 15:08:28
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Tom,
After running into the word "ALKALINE" in my research like mosquitoes at an evening softball game,
I've changed my external protocol to sodium bicarbonate and carrier for the total tumor now that I have opened a large cavity in the epidermis.
Also, my plan is to keep my pH in the 7's for sure while continuing the juicing along with Niacin and Potassium supplements.
I am a believer in removing scabs for open wounds but this time it is more in order to have an expanding access point for liquid treatments that is degrading tumor height and width in order to reach the root.
"It's best to remove loose skin or scabs as these delay the healing process and harbor infection."
Dr. George D. Winter's wound care study showed that the regrowth of skin over a wound (epithelialization) was twice as fast in those wounds covered with a film dressing. His wound care case study showed that wounds that were kept moist healed in approximately 12 to 15 days while the same wound when exposed to the air healed in about 25 to 30 days.
http://www.squidoo.com/heal-open-wounds-faster
But,the problem I have bouncing around in my head is,I don't want this tumor tissue to (heal) I want it to (die)!
So, while I continue to moisten then pull the scab in the morning and cleanse with saline, the idea of covering it (even if I could without some sort of adhesive) makes me feel that the air and mother nature especially the sun are not getting their fair shot that way right?
I mean, it is one thing to have a wound just a bit below the surface and want it to regrow upwards and then blend but, during these initial stages I feel like standard regrowth is the last thing in the sequence I want to accomplish until I am down far enough to kill via the fibroblasts etc near the root.
I realize I am signaling things to heal better from the change in diet inside but, it is also part of the plan to kill cancer cells from the outside with alkalinity...
What do you think?
Be Well Always,
Bonder
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Thomas Haugen
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Posted - 04/10/2012 : 15:57:56
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Bonder, I'm not sure about the sodium bicarbonate. I've read in various places that topically it will get cancer cells above pH of 8 and kill them. The body has these mechanisms to tightly regulate pH but I'm not sure if they function down at the cellular level, meaning they might interfere or cancel out the higher pH. Also, plasma or other fluid oozing out the wound could carry the bicarb away from the cancer cells. If none of that hinders your plan, then I hope you have good luck if you decide to try it.
My scab has gotten noticeably smaller lately. I pull it off and re-treat whenever it gets soft from washing, or about every other day otherwise. I leave it uncovered at all times, except when I have to use makeup. If and when the skin completely grows back and closes the wound, I guess I'll continue to use a penetrating topical for a while after that.
About the saline you use for cleansing, do you feel it is chemically killing surface cells? You know, like salt in a wound? I have no idea whether that would be good or bad.
With a lesion as large as yours, it doesn't seem like a good idea to let it heal over, even if it would. As I understand it, in almost every instance of treating these cancers, the healing may proceed excruciatingly slowly, but it should proceed sort of similar to any other wound or burn, where new skin seems to appear around the perimeter and gradually develops closer and closer to the center. That is what is happening with my biggest BCC.
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bonder
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Posted - 04/10/2012 : 17:39:22
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Ok gotcha..
This is the (normal) sodium chloride .9 used for irrigation and so far it seems to just clean and not have any other obvious affect.
So, I am wondering if you think that my position about (wanting the thing to die, not heal up) has any merit?
Lets assume for the heck of it, that I was able to get a piece of dental floss around this thing like I did with a growth on my gut that obviously had blood flow but had not changed in decades...
All I did was follow the instructions of another to restrict the blood flow of it for a couple days so it would fall off and die leaving just a level pink spot behind.
The lack of nutrients to the mass signaled the body to let it die and then regrow skin afterwards.
It seems to me trying to treat this thing like friend is not in my scope and if alkalinity is its enemy then that is my friend in order to kill it. But, you make a good point about the plasma as so far, I've been allowing this thing to bleed some in the morn, then clean it and watch as the fluid oozes out and widens the hole in the mass.
You might remember that I decided to cut a line in a portion of it after razoring off a small slice to see how this thing would heal itself (and boy did it heal itself quickly !), with the idea of getting any sort of topical into the skin faster like with the ascorbic.
As you can see in my site pics, there is a definite round lower area that has remained about the same whereas the upper area has been caving through. It is my opinion that is due to the fact that not only did I abrade the tumor, I cut through the first layer of skin with conviction so as to open the mass for more applications while keeping it clean and without infection.
Truthfully, with all the acidity rolling around in there, I could probably paste a cow pie to it and not have any issues lol!
To continue,
I am stuck between just plodding on or buying a great deal of salicylic acid like what is in wart removers and Curaderm just to get to (skin level) in order to be where most others here are in terms of growth height regardless of the width.
See, if this skin regrows as fast as it did, then it really does not matter what sort of solvent or tincture I use in order to get to ground zero because my skin will repair quite well unless I change its structure via a large knife scar or perhaps a flame or freezing action.
Personally, I believe a lot of that is due to the diet I have followed over decades and no coffee or soda pop.
There was nothing special about the skin on either side of my family that all drank that sort of thing.
So, should the outside tumor be treated as something that you want to die or, something you want to heal and why?
Be Well Always,
Bonder |
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Thomas Haugen
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Posted - 04/10/2012 : 20:43:58
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Bonder, I believe that unless you come across something that claims to revert cancer cells back into being normal cells (I don't know what) then all those cancer cells are going to have to die. My hope has always been that some cells killed by the immune system are fragmented and carried away through the bloodstream, and then the topicals kill the ones on the surface and they slough off. You might be tempted to try self-surgery, but I don't think that's a good idea. Pinching off the blood flow could result in gangrene or MRSA and then you're dead.
You've talked about DMSO and there's no doubt it's a good carrier to move stuff through all the layers of the skin to what's beneath. They often put DMSO in bloodroot salve. If your topical with various ingredients is not having any effect on that other part of the tumor, seems to me you would want to be trying new ingredients. Who knows, vitamin C with bicarb above pH 8? Alpha Lipoic Acid with bicarb above pH 8? After watching Dr. Michael Lisanti, the notion of using NAC as a topical popped into my head - just a wild thought. So many things kill cancer cells, we've got to keep trying.
Since part of yours is protruding, what about gentle heat to 108 degrees? What is it, 108 kills cancer cells, 111 kills all cells? Just a thought, not a recommendation. |
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bonder
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Posted - 04/11/2012 : 07:07:58
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Tom,
Although it may be hard to see from outside my brain, I do have a method to my madness here lol...
The use of dental floss has already given me the success that was suggested and there is hardly a redness left behind at ground zero.
In my opinion,the reason for the (single area) of success on a mass this large (which by conventional means would have been cut,dug, the skin opened to probably 30% more or even wider and then used as a sewing point with another patch of my skin is in my estimation due to the fact that I went beyond the first layer of skin on (one) side initially...
I decided if chemicals were good enough to put into a person's veins, then they were good enough to put into an external cancerous tumor that would have just been cut off anyway.
The difference was I wanted to see if the polar solvent could do as advertized with the ascorbic and it did. However, it did very quickly on one part that was cut open and not much at all on the other part.
What used to be referred to as "polar solvents" could revert cancer cells into normal ones which is one of the reasons I jumped onto the DMSO wagon even though there was better in vitro than in vivo findings
Apparently there is a more (greener) effort going on as we speak and this award has been taken of the shelf.
( I would not be surprised if it was Boik that is somehow involved)...
https://www.innocentive.com/ar/challenge/9932717
Here is why I decided to lean a bit towards The Italian to see if the fast results were true for a treatment with 2 relatively safe compounds.
"The easy way is to use a trojan horse that will carry the sodium bicarbonate straight into the cancer cells. Two methods are available, suggested by the author of this web site. One is insulin potentiation. The insulin makes the cancer cells starved for sugar, then a glucose solution,(Like honey or molasses) mixed with a sodium bicarbonate solution, is infused intravenously. The cancer cells greedily absorb the glucose/sodium bicarbonate solution, which will destroy the fungus in them instantly. To my best knowledge, the method has not yet been used anywhere."
"An easier and simpler way is to mix DMSO with the sodium bicarbonate solution, and apply it intravenously. The DMSO will bond with the sodium bicarbonate, and lead it straight into cancer cells, because DMSO seeks out cancer cells selectively. This is a safe and inexpensive protocol. The first clinic that is introducing this brand new therapy in the USA is the CAMELOT CANCER CARE LLC clinic in Tulsa, Oklahoma. As of June 2, 2007, the preliminary results of this protocol are extremely encouraging."
http://www.holisticcancersolutions.com/sodium_bicarbonate_report.htm
So,others have decided that the DMSO/baking soda protocol have shown success inside of internal organ tumors and because I am through the top layer and am gaining a widening of the effect I now want to see if the (Trojan Horse Protocol) is as fast as advertized if not, I can surely go back to the ascorbic/DMSO.
It may be my imagination but, it almost seems like since the NAC, when I do my daily (tongue press) test, the inside mass is less pronounced.
I think I personally will keep the NAC for my insides as I like the idea of having a proven Macho-antioxidant in there
Good point about the hotter temperature element, I'll be looking into that thanx.
The other chemicals will have to wait lol...
Be Well Always,
Bonder |
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bonder
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dan
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Posted - 04/16/2012 : 18:50:10
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Thanks Bonder for the very good link. For some reason, I love to see to-do lists. (I must be well trained.) Anyway, they have a good one under http://www.americanaci.org/what-you-must-do-first.html Here's part of it.
"We recommend adding the Checklist below into your every day lifestyle at a bare minimum for cancer prevention, and especially if you're a cancer patient right now.
1. Use a shower filter to remove chlorine
2. Use non-flouride toothpaste
3. Use aluminum-free deodorant; and all non-toxic personal care items
4, Eat raw, organically grown food where possible
5. Juice fruits and veggies 3-4x/wk, esp. wheat and barley grass. (Cancer patient? Don't eat or juice fruit, see book for details)
6. Add the Budwig Protocol to your diet, especially if you have cancer
7. Add Apricot kernels to your diet, especially if you have cancer
8. Drink alkaline ionized water if at all possible instead of bottled water, especially if you have cancer
9. Add colloidal silver to your medicine chest and use it regularly"
It turns out that I do about half of them (1,2,3,6 and parts of 4 and 8.) |
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bonder
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Posted - 04/18/2012 : 07:23:45
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Thank You Very Much Dan For The List,
I myself am not very good at following unless it is right in front of me or sort of (Pressed Inside Of Me) lol. Now I'll be able to see it daily because my fridge has too many magnets on it already :)
Be Well Always,
Bonder |
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bonder
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bonder
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Posted - 05/12/2012 : 11:18:27
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Tom,
I have discovered through the process of elimination that once again, medications have changed my perception and behaviors...
So, regardless of a doctor's opinion, I cut back simply (one) pill each day and my alertness has changed dramatically according to a long time friend.
Of course the downside to this is an inheirited influx of (abstract thinking) which often times wakes me up at night with ideas lol !
I am guessing your former recommendation of adding a little vodka to the topical mixture has to do with NanoMedicine and the diluting of compounds.
My thoughts are to try and keep my face goop more thin so as to have better absorption.
Here is what has been clinking around in my head lately (thank God, finally...)
In my research, I've found that western medicine uses many materials to gain the most bang for the buck and that is why I was given the same chemical to thin my blood as is commonly used to kill rats in North America, just at a much smaller dose.
So, the B17 theory AKA Laetrile is one with even more interest to me because it is not sold where I live.
"At the Mexican border, U.S. Customs has permitted the entry of amygdalin for private use without benefit of even an affidavit for over a decade. Amygdalin is an extract of apricot kernels, which makes it a food supplement and nothing more. Under FDA guidelines, however, any substance that is used to treat a disorder can be classified a drug. In the U.S., it appears as though the FDA has the authority to label ANYTHING a "new drug" when a claim is made for that substance or even suggestions given as to how to take it.
As of 2000, there are different State Statutes in the U.S. that make the the posession and use of Laetrile perfectly legal in some states and illegal in others. The FDA, however, has banned the commercialization of Laetrile in the U.S. by making it illegal to import it for resale, or to transport it from State to State. Therefore, If you are in the U.S., you will not be able to purchase Laetrile.
4) Q. What is the recommended daily dosage of vitamin B-17 for prevention?
While exact amounts of B-17 for a "minimum daily requirement" in cancer surveillance have not been established, the basic concept is that sufficient daily B-17 may be obtained by following either of two suggestions:
One, according to Dr. Krebs, eating all the B-17-containing fruits whole (seeds included), but not eating more of the seeds by themselves than you would be eating if you ate them in the whole fruit. Example: if you eat three apples a day, the seeds in the three apples are sufficient B-17. You would not eat a pound of apple seeds.
Second, one peach or apricot kernel per 10 lbs. of body weight is believed to be more than sufficient as a normal safeguard in cancer prevention, although precise numbers may vary from person to person in accordance with individual metabolism and dietary habits. A 170-lb man, for example, might consume 17 apricot or peach kernels per day and receive a biologically reasonable amount of vitamin B-17. Two or three Vitamin B17 tablets (100 mg) is an acceptable supplemental dosage per day.
And two important notes: Certainly, you can consume too much of anything. Too many kernels or seeds, for example, can be expected to produce unpleasant side effects. These natural foods should be consumed in biologically rational amounts (no more than 30 to 35 kernels per day).
5) Q. What is the difference between apricot seeds and B-17 100 mg tablets when used for prevention? Is one better than the other? Do I need to take both?
Dr. Krebs always suggested that the raw form of vitamin B-17 (e.g. apricot kernels) is better than the purified form when used for prevention. This holds true for any other food: The raw form of vitamin C (e.g. grapefruits and oranges), for example, is also better than the pill. The difference between these two forms of vitamin B-17 is that the tablet is a more convenient method of administration; the seeds have a bitter taste to them and some people prefer the convenience of a tablet. Some people have dentures and simply find it difficult to chew on the seeds. Most people take both. It is completely safe to take both forms as many cancer patients take up to 4 times the amount of seeds recommended for a non-cancer sufferer, and up to 50 times more of the purified form (tablet form). It is not necessary to take both forms but, as stated above, you can get away with doing so while getting a reasonable amount of vitamin B-17.
IMPORTANT: Cancer, patients, however, may require higher, more purified forms of vitamin B-17. It would be impossible to get the amount of vitamin B-17 needed to control existing cancer from the seeds alone. One would have to eat way too many seeds and this may, of course, produce unpleasant side effects
(See Phase I and II metabolic therapies)
http://www.worldwithoutcancer.org.uk/faq.html#4
http://www.worldwithoutcancer.org.uk/protocols.html
6) Q. I have been diagnosed with Cancer. Will vitamin B-17 work on any type of cancer?
Dr. Krebs says "yes". Cancer cells all have the exact same characteristics. Cancer cells, no matter the type of cancer, are known as Trophoblasts (See Trophoblastic Thesis of Cancer). These cells contain an enzyme called Beta-glucosidase, also known as the unlocking enzyme. When Laetrile comes in contact with the enzyme beta-glucosidase, the Laetrile is broken down to form two molecules of glucose, one molecule of benzaldehyde and one molecule of hydrogen cyanide (HCN). Within the body, the cancer cell-and only the cancer cell-contains that enzyme. The key word here is that the HCN must be FORMED. It is not floating around freely in the Laetrile and then released. It must be manufactured. The enzyme beta-glucosidase, and only that enzyme, is capable of manufacturing the HCN from Laetrile thereby affecting the cancer cell-and only the cancer cell. If there are no cancer cells in the body, there is no beta-glucosidase. If there is no beta-glucosidase, no HCN will be formed from the Laetrile (See Amygdalin's Mode of Action)."
Therefore, I now see why the Gerson therapy requires so many apples to be juiced daily because of the one element not spoken of much and that is the (cyanide) inside of apple seeds. Cyanide is also inside of the apricot seeds as well.
All I knew about Cyanide before this was that it was used as a poison (Thank you Mr. Rockerfeller) your American medical schools have done their jobs quite well...
According to my research, Cyanide is tolerated by the human body well at low doses but, CANCER CANNOT TOLERATE IT !
http://www.worldwithoutcancer.org.uk/faq.html#4
http://www.gaia-health.com/articles/000026-Laetril-Amygdalin-B17.shtml
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-mCHx-iyxOQ
Chew on this a bit if you don't mind and get back to me.
God it is great to be able to see past the fog finally !
Be Well Always,
Bonder
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bonder
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Posted - 05/15/2012 : 06:13:33
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To Tom and Dan...
Started 5000 iu of D3 and now looking into alpha lipoc due to your previous (comments within our discussion) here.
I am happy to say that these (comments within our discussions) here have stimulated my thought process to search out modalities on my own.
Personally, because people are not giving advice here, it is a much better platform for me.
(no one here seems to be playing a doctor on the internet)
I am on the fence about choosing ANY peanut butter after reading this.
"Back to our little cancer cell and Dr Budwig: she states there are many reasons for a cell to lose its charge, but peanut butter is a very common one. Can you believe it? Something as simple as peanut butter causing your cancer? Most peanut butters are hydrogenated. Why? To keep from separating, increase shelf life, and more flavorful. Go look at your natural peanut butters. Many are kept in the refrigerator section because that is how they keep them from separating."
http://www.mnwelldir.org/docs/cancer1/budwig.htm
2 new videos about vitamin C and more at the top of canceramerican
TYVM...
Be Well Always,
Bonder |
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dscochran99
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Posted - 05/21/2012 : 22:18:03
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Originally posted by bonder
I THINK THIS IS TRULY UNAMERICAN TO BUILD A SITE LIKE THIS GIVING HOPE TO THOSE OF US WITHOUT ANY.
THE SHOWING OF ONE OR TWO SET OF PICTURES OF THE SAME PEOPLE SIMPLY TO GET PEOPLE TO BUY NATURAL PRODUCTS.
NOW I HAVE WAITED TOO LONG FOR A DECENT HOPE OF SURGERY WITHOUT FACIAL DESTRUCTION.
THESE HOME REMEDIES WORK GREAT FOR SELLERS AND NO ONE ELSE WHERE IS THE PROOF?????
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dscochran99
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Posted - 05/21/2012 : 22:22:12
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| I agree that this website is not, in anyway, intended to be for the sole benefit of selling natural alternatives. It's a great resource for people struggling with the same problem and are looking for advise as well as encouragement. I have learned so much that has helped me decide to use Effudex as well as get answers about struggling through treament. No worries from here and good luck to you as well! |
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bonder
186 Posts |
Posted - 05/22/2012 : 06:44:07
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To dscochran99,
I am happy to say that these (comments within our discussions) here have stimulated my thought process to search out modalities on my own.
Personally, because people are not giving advice here, it is a much better platform for me.
(no one here seems to be playing a doctor on the internet)
Be Well Always,
Bonder |
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bonder
186 Posts |
Posted - 08/11/2012 : 05:54:59
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Latest Pics During Time Of Removal At Bottom Of Canceramerican Website(natural cylindrical uniformity)
http://www.canceramerican.com
So anivoc, any ideas about recovering after bloodroot black salve to aid scarring?
Be Well Always,
Bonder |
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Thomas Haugen
94 Posts |
Posted - 08/11/2012 : 09:59:24
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Bonder, those photos are amazing! You really nailed a huge mass of cancerous tissue. Did I miss it or have you explained what treatment you used? (Which brand of black salve, how much of the tumor you covered, how long you left it on, etc.?) How much pain?
What is your next step? Some others who have used black salve mentioned undergoing a second treatment to ensure they got all the malignancy. Of course there is the issue of extreme pain when black salve is applied to an open wound and the need for prescription painkillers.
For dealing with scars I'm trying to remember about a natural treatment I read about a while back. If it dredges up I'll let you know.
Take care, Tom |
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Thomas Haugen
94 Posts |
Posted - 08/11/2012 : 11:27:01
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"Moist wound treatment is the best way to ensure healing, and to reduce the risk of scabs and ultimately scarring.
Under moist wound healing conditions, the formation of a crusty scab is prevented. This is because moist wound healing promotes growth and migration of new cells and ensures that essential proteins for closing your wound stay where they belong in order to do their repair job.
Wounds that are left to dry in air will always create scabs, which make it hard for a wound to close itself, as under these dry conditions new skin tissue will have a tough time forming."
http://www.elastoplast.com.au/magazine/health-and-protection/moist-wound-healing |
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Thomas Haugen
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bonder
186 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2012 : 10:20:31
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Thanx Tom !!! good to hear from you again....
I really don't have much to add for Black Salve protocol except that thanx to the youtube videos of Greg Caton, I was able to find out how to make a paste. The world of skin cancer owes a great deal to Mr. Caton...
I followed instructions from the past and simply covered the (entire) mass from top to bottom.
The 1st 12 hours were the worst and for me, having a few beers in the fridge kept me away from ingesting pain killers due to the fact that I am not much of a drinker these days lol...
Initially, I used concentrated vitamin E for moisture but, after a bit more reviewing of websites, decided upon vaseline due to it's density and the fact that I was looking for my body to (push out) this area of flesh not nourish it.
To my surprise, a few days later I was cleaning the area with warm water on a towel and (Plop) the yellow mass you saw on canceramerican.com just fell off.
I stood there thinking to myself...
" But, there is no gushing blood spewing all over my sink, just a bit of ugly goop and there is this big divit here on my face".
Kind of strange that all of this tissue came off without a knife and the basis of the divit was in the form of a circle.
So, as was written before me, I just cleaned off the area, let it rest a day and then reapplied some more to the other section that did not come off with the 1st try. I put more vaseline around it again and that area plopped off as well.
I was left with a roundish section carved out well below the skin line that is not fun to look at but, much easier to take in than that huge mass making it's way into my nostril.
The one thing I can attest to with this sort of salve is, (More Is Not Better) just as Greg Caton said...
There was no need to goop this on an inch thick, simply covering the area totally was enough for the job.
It did not surprise me that with an area this large, one section reacted right away and another did not.
Addressing it in (sections) while painful, was appropriate.
Tom the thing you have to understand is that this effort to research and act on this cancer issue was all done during a time that I was apparently taking in (way) too much seizure medicine than I needed and my thinking was so clouded, I needed to rethink things over and over again just to get through each day.
For most of my life, my diet changed things enough so no medicines were needed until I had to start taking care of dad as he was fading away.
A few weeks before I decided to go the black salve route, I made the decision to cut back the level of medication and slowly but surely my cognitive functions and memory became better and better.
The combination of Dan's site with you,the doctors and authors I have on canceramerican.com, the knowledge of Greg Caton and The Gerson guidance for diet has supported my efforts to a tremendous degree during a time when once again, pills made me dulled to what was good for me just like the times of my youth in the medical facilities.
As Americans, we need to understand what we are all up against with big medicine and in order to survive, must rely on each other's experiences to get by without digging a bigger hole for ourselves.
It embarrasses me to think the leaders of our country have been allowing all this greed to go on for so long in the place where I was born.
And now, other people trained here are doing the same thing in other countries...
Be Well Always,
Bonder
(From Someone Else On This Site)
REGARDING DEBRIDEMENT OF SCABROUS TISSUE
I am a registered nurse who has worked with a Dermatologist. Here is what I recommend regarding removal of scabs during this process:
First, know that avoiding scabrous tissue formation is by far the best in order to avoid scarring of the healed, healthy flesh. This is accomplished by keeping the treated area moist at all times or as much as humanly possible. This also increases the efficacy of the Vit. C treatment, too. GENTLY removing a soft, moist, loose scab is fine.
Black or gray tissue is necrotic (dead cancerous tissue) and should be removed immediately as it contains toxins that can affect the emerging healthy tissue.
If a scab is really hard, dry and firmly attached, I would not recommend pulling it off. Rather soften the area with long, warm soaks and continue with the Vit. C under a bandage keeping the area moist. Be patient, the scab will soften in a couple of days, max. I would recommend using 4" x 4" gauze cut and folded in half and apply to the treated area with a 1/8" perimeter to ensure that underlying undetected cancer is being reached. A double piece of gauze slows down evaporation and thus requires less frequent moistening.
Your local drugstore has albeit somewhat costly occlusive dressings that are very effective at sealing the treated area and thus locking in the moisture for a longer period of time. You may get away with saturating the gauze once a day with this type of dressing. Ask the pharmacist where to find it if you do not see it on the wound care isle.
Lastly, I would not use apple cider vinegar or H2O2 topical dressings as both will increase scabbing and it may be overkill because Vitamin C is already proven to cause tumor necrosis. Antibiotic ointments should not be necessary, either. Bacteria cannot grow in a highly acidic environment like ascorbic acid. Applying aloe or a purified petroleum based product like aquafor to the site is a fantastic idea. Most Dermatologists do not recommend antibiotic ointment application after removal of cancerous or pre-cancerous lesions anymore. |
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Thomas Haugen
94 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2012 : 11:15:02
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Bonder, thanks for the info, and congratulations on accomplishing removal of the bulk of that tumor. Others who used black salve wrote about finding "roots" of the cancer cells going into the tissue. Has that been your experience? A surgical oncologist on another discussion board stated there are no such things as roots or tendrils of cancer extending outside the tumor mass, contradicting the statements of salve users. It's not a trivial matter as this issue determines the re-treatment protocol: apparently most users keep re-treating until no further reaction is observed - in other words even the deepest cancer cells have been expelled. And to be safe, an area around the wound would also need to be treated in case a cancer has spread.
I have read about persons who used salve but months or years later the cancer came back in the same place. I'm wondering if they only applied salve once or twice and then allowed the skin to completely heal up, being overly anxious to complete the process. What are your plans?
For the benefit of others on here you may want to say where you got the zinc chloride as it's not easy to find in small quantities.
Take care, Tom |
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bonder
186 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2012 : 15:17:45
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Well Tom,now that I blasted through most of that big bastard, my plans are to treat the area with orange oil and see what I feel. I am sure there are as many stories of those that never had a cancer problem again as there are those that did have problems afterwards. So, all one can do is keep with the diet that claims so much success and realize that every time we go to a restaurant and order a soup or gravy, we are playing Russian roulette with our bodies just as was planned by the big money...
If you go to canceramerican.com and scroll down, you will find a video about (EXCITOTOXINS) by a Christian Neurosurgeon named Russell Blaylock (the best 60 min vid on health I have watched in a very long time).
It is becoming clear that grocery store pizzas are too dangerous for a guy like me as are many canned soups.
I truly have to wonder how many children could be so much more functional if only certain foods and drinks were kept out of their diets and then medication levels reduced accordingly ?
Not every Black Salve has zinc chloride in it and personally Tom, I don't want to promote non-experts making their own salves and feel that folks should look towards places on the net where they are still legal to buy from.
I'm no expert but, my guess is the U.S. has the ability to close down websites that freely advertise Black Salve products on them if that would be legal for them to do so.
Until then, people should probably just spend the $30 to $60 for the help.
Be Well Always,
Bonder |
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waverider
76 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2012 : 23:56:43
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| Personally, I always doubted this "roots" theory and/or the "white dots," too. There's either active cancer there or there isn't. Period. What's a root? One often hears the roots theory mentioned in conjunction with the notion that, by treating cancer on the surface with black salve, petty spurge or whatever, you might "drive the cancer deeper" into tissues. As though the cancer cells have a meeting and agree to pack up and flee into other areas to escape. I think if you have BCC in a certain area, it's not a "root"-- it's just more cancer. And cancer cells don't run away from treatment. They may recur in situ or even become resistant (though I haven't noticed resistance happening with BCC) but they don't practice escape and evasion. |
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bonder
186 Posts |
Posted - 08/13/2012 : 08:12:43
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L.M.A.O.
Good point waverider, I did come across this recently about resistance however (good read)
http://www.redorbit.com/news/health/1112668477/cancer-stem-cell-cure
The interesting thing is, if we believe that we can swallow a pill to get better like in most medical circumstances, there are even (Black Salve Pills) we can take to perhaps seek out the so-called roots...
My opinion is most people just do not know how to approach healing themselves even in a small manner. The large mass that I had to deal with needed to be approached in (sections) just as I read and I knew that the salve had an ability to (seek and destroy) what was next to it if there was cancer so I did not goop it all over my face, just covered the whole thing on top and underneath. When the 1st piece plopped off it was pretty scary but, showed me that hacking into my face with a knife was not the only way of expelling unwanted material. Back when the cavemen cut the 1st mass off, it was much smaller in circumference and it seems only spread out the problem for me. ( I was too dulled at the time to appreciate the need for a speedy reaction) I'll be presenting an updated version of a couple of pics now that all areas are down and less inflamed.
The nurse from another part of this site speaks about necrotic tissue.
"Black or gray tissue is necrotic (dead tissue) and should be removed immediately as it contains toxins that can affect the emerging healthy tissue."
I have found that this can be painful to remove this stuff too early but have to ask this question :
If this necrotic tissue is basically dead cells then, why not make an important plan to get it out of the way during the healing/regrowth phase ? (Nurse shows it here) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtVK6Iostfk
So, a person can 1st get the body to expel the foreign mass, keep it moist and clean with water, then leave moist with some sort of hydro-gel and keep after the necrotic tissue while washing it (probably not with this sort of machine like the nurse has) but the same idea of using water.
Personally, I think one is wasting their time if they don't adjust their diet to consume more omega threes and A HECKUVA LOT LESS SUGAR, MSG AND OTHER EXCITOTOXINS. Otherwise, they may very well be hindering their body's natural repair system and perhaps this is why their cancer comes back...
Be Well Always,
Bonder
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bonder
186 Posts |
Posted - 08/13/2012 : 08:47:52
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Creating a Margin
In my opinion, Big Medicine has basically been mimicking what the body does for itself and calling it some sort of genious...
As I said before, I am no expert but, perhaps the natural cylindrical uniformity of the tissue left after the Eschar is the very same principle used by surgeons today when they (create a clean margin) for a wound.
So, what would you rather do, go have stitches left far and wide or first try and see if your own body can be induced to repair itself and expel foreign matter and then leave it's own margins for the wound?
Surgical Debridement
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlbanGBgecc&feature=related
Be Well Always,
Bonder |
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Thomas Haugen
94 Posts |
Posted - 08/13/2012 : 10:56:49
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Bonder, I know what you mean. The surgeons brag about how they keep cutting until the pathologist finds no more cancer cells under his 'scope. So the surgeon removes a margin of noncancerous tissue all the way around the wound, creating a gaping hole that the technique made necessary. I would lose the end of my nose if I let them do that.
I brought up the matter because of the factual dispute over whether the tumor sends out "roots" as some salve users have reported. Your SCC may be the type that does not do that. I look forward to reading about your progress how your body can heal such a large wound.
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bonder
186 Posts |
Posted - 08/13/2012 : 16:44:16
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Tom,
I am not totally giving up on the idea of (roots) or that which is called (roots). I agree with waverider about his position that cancer does not run and hide but, perhaps it does spread beyond the circle we see.
Part of the reason for this is because during both the 1st twelve hours and after subsequent applications in sections, I personally felt the (tingling) in semi-distant areas of my face. I originally chalked this up to the fact that the left side of my face has a shall we say, (re-directed nerve structure) since the surgeons removed a benign mass from under my left ear and so ever since then I can squeeze my left ear and feel the squeeze in another part of my face lol...
As time became an issue for me, this position on the healing was mostly why I chose an herbal paste...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoAJSldC8ZQ
I feel we need to try and enable the body to do it's own work rather than simply hack away until things cannot be seen under a microscope anymore. A strange coincidence has occurred since I changed my eating habits for this and allowed the paste into my body.
For over 15 years I have had a small bump that never changed in size on the right inside of my pants zipper which happened after a boating accident. As a man, we tend to get pretty worried about such things so, I called an old friend from college that I knew had a removal surgery for cancer down there. He was kind enough to explain to me the enlargement and pain issues etc and I was pretty convinced it was not cancer for myself.
Whatever the bump was, it is now GONE... and I check usually monthly for changes even though nothing ever changed there before.
Did I ever mention that I don't believe in coincidences ?
It would seem to me that the (total body) approach is what is needed during times when our immune systems are down and the idea of helping the body to recognize cancer as an invasive agent so it can heal itself is about as natural approach as I have been able to find next to diet change.
A person does have to be able to endure some pain for a while as the price for the healing.
However, I have had deep stitches on my face, that is for sure NOT (pain-free).
I don't expect to get out of this looking the same as I did before the growth occurred but, I already look a lot better than I did in the beginning of July.
Be Well Always,
Bonder
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I think it is better compared to the pics at the bottom of (www.canceramerican.com)
Maybe I can start calling this a burn or something else now lol...
By The By, here was what I looked like after the Cave Men cut into me...
Looks like my body pretty much did the same thing all by itself ! lol...
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bonder
186 Posts |
Posted - 08/15/2012 : 11:00:21
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FROM http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?11225-Vitamin-B-17-Laetrile-Anti-Cancer-Properties
"Re: Vitamin B-17 - Laetrile - Anti-Cancer Properties
I'm old enough to remember the clinical trials of a drug named laetrile. The drug name may have been spelled differently. They claimed that the drug did not work. So say it worked so well they had to back track and spread misinformation about it. Others say the synthetic version of B-17 did not work. Anyway, the truth is still the truth and B-17 does seem to have tremendous value, yes. It's found easily in flax seed, sometimes called linseed. Farmers heal their animals using linseed oil.
Dr. Johanna Budwig CURES cancer (she may have passed) using flaxseed oil and cottage cheese. The cheese contains a sulphuric protein that acts synergistically with the B-17 in the flax oil. BAM, cancer cured. She has taken deathbed cancer patients that could no longer eat and healed them with flax/chees enemas! "
I have personally added flax seed oil to my diet since around may 2012 and the pic you see above is only 3 weeks after the mass fell off...
Be Well Always,
Bonder |
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Thomas Haugen
94 Posts |
Posted - 08/15/2012 : 13:00:17
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Bonder, I just saw your most recent photo - that wound looks really good. Have you done a repeat application of salve? Who knows, maybe it's better to let the wound heal up and then re-apply. Might not be as much agonizing pain that way if your immune system didn't kill all the cancer cells.
I also cannot see any recent post by Anivoc.
Take care, Tom |
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robbiethegood
35 Posts |
Posted - 08/15/2012 : 14:38:24
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I'm so pleased to see this. Looks like you are getting somewhere here, it's much better than the pic I saw some time ago.
Interesting stuff and some good sense talked on this thread too, good points on diet and everything.
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bonder
186 Posts |
Posted - 08/15/2012 : 19:11:33
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HEY ROBBIE !!
Yeah, just from looking at the pics in order on the site, one can see definite progress...
My hope is others take the time to watch the cancer videos and read the research copy on there as well.
The videos about the works of Max and Charolette Gerson told me the tale about nutrition and how so much of what happens to us is due to our diet. I really felt Alpha Omega's Greg Caton Knew something about herbal pastes that has not been mentioned anywhere else I could find besides the Youtube link I left up above here.
If the problem was that cancer had been able to hide, then I was going to be the one to make it visible to my immune system if it was within my ability. Or, if the paste really just kills cancer cells, then that is fine with me as well.
Tom, I have applied the paste with pain (3) times to get to this point and used the petroleum gel to keep moist, then cut away the necrotic tissue as well.
Damn memory is still not back, I'm trying to remember if it was Dan or Anivoc or somebody that was so well versed about using orange oil or ascorbic acid to determine if there was still cancer cells lingering around? I have both pure oil and acid crystals.
My plan was to use vitamin C perhaps with DMSO to finish off the underneath now that I got that hulk off my face.
I can still feel something with my tongue inside the same spot as the tumor was that feels like a fat cell or two but, I can feel that on my lower lip area as well, just more separated. I just cannot remember if this is unusual for my mouth really...
(There is one thing I want others to realize about the Bloodroot paste and that is for me at least, the area I applied it to looked very swelled up at first, to the point that one side of my upper lip hung down.)
Swelling was not unexpected but, not quite to that degree lol !
Be Well Always,
Bonder
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Thomas Haugen
94 Posts |
Posted - 08/15/2012 : 22:05:15
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Bonder, WOW you've paid your dues re-applying the paste. Talk about self torture. I commend you.
Orange oil is the diagnostic aid because it is supposed to create nearly unbearable stinging if it encounters cancer cells. I'm not sure if it will also sting horribly on an open wound just because.
Regarding swelling up, I believe that's an indication of how well your immune system is identifying cancer cells and killing them and removing the debris. I've posted photos of my face all swollen up just from using Astaxanthin and a good diet as a means of attacking the cancer cells. Your experience fits in perfectly with Caton's explanation that bloodroot salve strips away the camouflage that cancer cells use to evade the immune system so your body then kills them. The most plausible explanation I've read yet as to why bloodroot finds and kills cancer cells. Why has it taken me all this time and research to finally learn what I've been questioning for several years? Thank you Bonder for pointing me to Caton's YouTube video and for your explanation as well. |
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anivoc
668 Posts |
Posted - 08/16/2012 : 08:45:26
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Hey Bonder..
I'm out of country right now on business..I did start to post something that had some typos, started to edit but ran out of time and just deleted it.
Awesome job dude! Really proud of your courage to go at this so independently. Keep up the good work and I'll post more thoughts and questions when I am back in town next week...Again great job and congratulations! |
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bonder
186 Posts |
Posted - 08/19/2012 : 20:27:30
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Howdy, got this off of canceramerican.com news links today
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/18/hempfest-2012_n_1801294.html
I was wondering how it was ok for the corporate farming of 420 to be occurring so much ?
Could be an easier cure for skin cancer is on it's way... (and a heckuva a lot of tax revenue if the prohibition laws go away)
Tom glad to see you were impressed with the evidence, I feel Caton explains it quite well in the video and he is out of Equador these days I guess.
I decided to put another video next to the sundance video about what Latin America and other countries have had to endure (The End Of Poverty) about 2 hours.
It really pains me to see what Europe and our country has done. Even religion was used to condemn the 3rd world !
This is why I have never trusted big corporate medicine.
The commoner is swimming in a vast sea of sharks...
Be Well Always,
Bonder |
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bonder
186 Posts |
Posted - 08/25/2012 : 19:02:14
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Thought I'd chant a bit about vitamin E application for those that might have forgot lol...
It's common knowledge that vitamin E is good for your skin, but not many people could tell you exactly what this nutrient does -- vitamin E is an antioxidant that protects and repairs your skin.
Antioxidants are agents that neutralize the oxidant effect of free radicals, which are molecules that damage collagen and cause skin dryness, fine lines and wrinkles [source: Bouchez]. A simple chemistry lesson can explain how vitamin E does this. The atoms that comprise your body try to maintain an even number of electrons -- that's what makes them stable. If an atom has an uneven number of electrons, it will steal an electron from another atom to become stable. When your skin takes a beating from outside factors, such as the sun's ultraviolet rays, your body can produce free radicals. Free radicals are atoms with an uneven number of electrons, and when they form inside your body, they steal electrons from healthy cells like the ones that make up your skin. This can cause a damaging chain reaction, and that's where antioxidants like vitamin E come in [source: Rice].
Antioxidants neutralize free radicals and prevent cellular damage from occurring. Vitamin E is one of the most powerful antioxidants, but your body can't produce it, which means you have to make sure you're getting enough of this valuable nutrient in your diet. Eating foods high in vitamin E and taking vitamin E supplements if you can't get enough through your food intake can can help prevent premature aging of your skin and damage to your DNA [source: Phillips]. Studies show that taking vitamin E long term can even reduce sunburns from exposure to UVB radiation. This doesn't mean that taking vitamins or applying topical vitamin E will allow you to safely bake in the sun, but you can help your skin stay healthier and more supple by ensuring you get enough of this antioxidant vitamin [source: Bouchez].
I feel that my Topical use daily of the concentrated form (20,000 IU )bought at Walmart has been quite beneficial.
Dab on several times a day and then leave on overnight.
Be Well Always,
Bonder
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bonder
186 Posts |
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bonder
186 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2012 : 06:41:39
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The latest pic for Sept at bottom of www.canceramerican.com
One month later it looks like skin is closing the gap maybe ?
opinions ?
Be Well Always,
Bonder |
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Thomas Haugen
94 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2012 : 08:34:37
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| Bonder, it looks like new skin to me. Did it grow in from the edges of the wound like skin would? |
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bonder
186 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2012 : 14:06:21
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Hey Tom...
Well, I guess the best way to depict this is to say that the small brown spot is what is left of the (total open spot) where I could put orange oil into to get deeper through the skin.
I am only guessing when I say what looks like a protective skin layer came from the outer periphery of the wound.
When I look at the pic right above it from last month, the whole wound looks like a more red and deeper layer that I could put orange oil into...
Being as though this is my first time at this, I think it is going quite well and my friend said last week ,
" well, now it looks like you have a small wound that is healing up "
I sure hope it get smaller and smaller :)
Be Well Always,
Bonder
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bonder
186 Posts |
Posted - 09/17/2012 : 22:10:31
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So Tom,
I think I will take your ( heal up ) advice now that it sort of looks like maximum medical improvement from the open lower layer of skin and perhaps just keep the area clean without extra treatments upon it...
Anivoc has been very clear about keeping wounds covered with tapes etc but, my problem area just does not seem to work well with coverage and I am not going to shave off my beard for this stupid thing lol...
So, do you not keep the area moist at all during this phase ?
Be Well Always,
Bonder
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Thomas Haugen
94 Posts |
Posted - 09/17/2012 : 22:50:16
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Bonder, I haven't had any large deep wounds to heal, so I haven't needed to keep them moist. I have read that the moist regimen assists in reducing scarring. Please let us know what regimen you use and why.
You may become the new poster boy for black salve.
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bonder
186 Posts |
Posted - 09/17/2012 : 23:33:37
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Okay I sure will,
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anivoc
668 Posts |
Posted - 09/18/2012 : 14:03:03
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Yo Bonder
Totally your call and you are right that your wound is in a majorly awkward place.
Keeping the wound covered and moist so no scab forms has two advantages the first is it will heal faster, the second is it helps keep the wound clean so less chance of contamination / cause for infection. You've got a cool beard so I wouldn't shave it off but you could definitely shave the area that you're trying to heal. It's just whiskers and they'll grow back.
The healing faster and ending up with a better looking scar are worth it imo but again just my opinion. I am blown away with the size of that sucker and that you whacked it out so clean. Awesome.
I have this one on my forehead that I have been throwing everything but bloodroot & petty spurge on over the last few years..trying to uncover that softer gentler way..so far not so much luck.. I've eaten a good amount of it away but I have a round ridge that stands up @ 1/8' up from the normal skin and the ridge ring itself is a good 3/8" wide..The complete diameter of the lesion is @ an inch and it sort of round with a @ 1/2' diameter cavern in the middle that has been eaten away by several different approaches. As I have mentioned elsewhere I am holding off sharing what I am using because I don't want to be another eggplant/vinegar waste of time.
Someone came here posting about caffeine and red clover a few weeks ago with unbelievable results..no pictures...no biopsy beforehand just amazing results...well I ordered the pure caffeine and red clover and tried it. First few days it did seem to effect the wounds differently but now two weeks into it the "hopium" is letting down and I think I have just found another thing that holds these things at bay. I have a deep Ak that I am using as the benchmark and if something eradicates it then I will endorse. This mixture has irritated it but like I said two weeks in and it is still there.
Well as you always say "BE WELL" brother Bonder. |
Edited by - anivoc on 09/18/2012 14:05:50 |
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bonder
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Posted - 09/18/2012 : 22:09:43
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Well Anivoc,
There is no one here that can say you don't have (juevos americanos) for everything you have tried lol...
After the research and listening to Alpha Omega's Man (Caton) explain his theory on how Black Salve works,
I felt the salve with the B-17 I was dosing would bring me along the lines of Dr Budwig's approaches using the cottage cheese daily. This is why I still feel if a person wants to really heal up, they need the full body approach.
It amazes me that I let myself become over-medicated by a brain quack and take too many seizure meds that dulled me after so many decades without any but, I guess that is the price we can pay for loyalty to our loved ones when they become ill like I did. I sure have cleared up recently thank goodness...
I have for many years been a very strong opponent against too much mfgr sugars and fats.
Personally,I feel Americans are now facing the hardest medical opponents in the history of our country and cannot believe that Phy-ed has been allowed to be taken out of our public school systems.
A couple of weeks ago one of my older friends underwent brain surgery for a sudden subdural hematoma episode and the nurses could not believe the short recovery time he employed. He at 67 was still eating home cooked meals and was taking his supplements daily.
We all cannot go to the natural food store all the time for less pesticides but, we can surely boil our carrots so we don't need to worry as much.
As weird as she looks, I have to wonder if this gal is on to something ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=N6zlQscoHIA#!
Thanx for your response.
Be Well Always,
Bonder
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susanc
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Posted - 09/28/2012 : 04:22:11
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| Is this post is based on the research done? However,it is very much informative.Thanks for sharing the knowledge. |
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THIS IS NOT FAIR TO US...
