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gbp
New Zealand
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 Posted - 01/22/2012 : 17:11:28
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Why do we keep going over the same ground over and over again.There is so much rubbish written about different treatments that simply don't work.
As far as natural applications for the treatment of Basal cell carcinomas (BCC) and Squamous cell carcinomas (SCC) there is only one that has undergone proper clinical trials and provided
effective results - PETTY SPURGE SAP.
My wife who is a registered nurse, treated two BCC on my face with liquid nitrogen.A couple of years later they came back with a vengeance.I applied Petty Spurge sap to the one on my forehead and one on the side of my nose, once a day for six days.I have photos of the treatment along the way.The result after 3 weeks, complete CURE.
The administrator of this blog kindly allowed me to advertise that I had did have limited quantities of pure Petty Spurge sap available in 1 ml.vials on an ongoing basis for those wishing to acquire some.
Let me assure you I sure am not going to get rich selling Petty Spurge sap and if you don't believe the results of the clinical trials - and from users on this forum, than all I can say is - I wish you well. |
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Thomas Haugen
USA
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Posted - 01/22/2012 : 17:33:20
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| gbp, we're with you. At least for BCCs and actinic keratoses. I'm in the US, can't get stuff timely from you, bonder and simple_me have SCCs, no proof I'm aware of that petty spurge is appropriate. |
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bonder
USA
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Posted - 01/23/2012 : 12:12:43
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GBP,
I'd be glad to see some pics of progressive healing from you for sure...
So far I've only seen the face of a female using petty spurge.
Funny, I thought it was pretty well agreed that petty spurge (and bloodroot) have had obvious positive effects?
Maybe the news hasn't gone down under yet :)
Be Well,
Bonder
Tom,
lotsa stuff about medmaryjane on canceramerican ! |
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waverider
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Posted - 01/23/2012 : 14:10:50
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Most of the tests results with Petty Spurge (Euphorbia Peplus) address "non-melanoma skin cancers." This term is understood to comprise both BCC and SCC. Here's some very recent tests done in AUS by the British Association of Dermatologists which break down the effectiveness rate of PS against SCC and BCC: 75% and 82% respectively. So its slightly less effective against SCC but that's still a better rate than you'll get with many things in the slash-and-burn category at the derm's office. The authors of the test also make the point that 43% of these were lesions that had already failed to respond to mainstream treatment, plus many were in the head and neck and > 2 cm in size, thus also considered to be very resistant cases.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21375515 |
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Thomas Haugen
USA
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Posted - 01/23/2012 : 14:43:03
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| waverider, thanks for the info. I've been following PEP005 through the clinical trials, but the trials are not on SCC. Are any companies in AUS selling PS in a non-prescription product? Can't find any in USA, and that's unusual - normally the market would be flooded with guys marketing little tubes for big bucks. |
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waverider
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Posted - 01/23/2012 : 14:43:41
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GBP:
Yours is an important post because so many people who might benefit from this are put off, I think, by the time, effort and uncertainty of having to grow their own. It's hard to tell someone who just got a positive test result from a dermatologist and is now being stampeded into Mohs that they should wait 6 weeks or so for a plant to sprout in a pot out on the patio. After having excellent results on both head and nose BCC -- large and small, respectively -- I've toyed with the idea of doing what you're doing as well and still may experiment with it -- not for commercial purposes, either. Can you share anything about how you extract the sap? Have you looked into what sort of preservation is required; i.e., does it lose potency in storage and/or transport? Does it need to be refrigerated? I don't know if I should be in the position of actually wishing for a little speck of BCC to experiment with, but I have thought that if I should get another uprising, I will do so by trying some extracted sap that I've stored in the 'frig first, then comparing it to fresh-squeezed variety. As everyone knows who's used it, by the third day or so you can tell if the PS you've got is potent by the reaction it usually wreaks on the skin cancer. It would be an interesting test. |
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gbp
New Zealand
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Posted - 01/25/2012 : 02:58:11
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Waverider
Thanks for feedback, it seems to me that there is an abundance of "snake oil" remedies being trotted about by people with nothing better to do with their time then writing a load of bull****.Vitamin C, hydrogen peroxide, baking soda,eggplant,vinegar, blah, blah, blah, and not one has passed any scrutiny under clinical trial conditions - except PETTY SPURGE.
I find it hard to believe that there are still people grizzling about treatments that don't work.For heavens sake the cure results of the PETTY SPURGE clinical trials were nothing short of outstanding.
I will try to answer some of your questions as I find the answers.
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bonder
USA
186 Posts |
Posted - 01/25/2012 : 16:49:37
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GBP
Still hoping to see your marvellous. Pics
I would imagine a fellow so convinced that the only answer we have is sitting in his living room would be more aggressive in offering the proof.
Be well
Bonder
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gbp
New Zealand
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Posted - 01/25/2012 : 17:46:03
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Bonder
I was not the one bleating about remedies that do not work, the answer seems to quite simple - you believe what you want to believe and i'll trust what worked for me and the other subjects in the clinical trials. |
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bonder
USA
186 Posts |
Posted - 01/25/2012 : 21:44:34
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Gbp
I would like to bring to your attention the fact that rarely do people believe someone that basically say the only game in or out of town is coincidently what they are selling...
So even if I had a product to sell I would do it with what seemed an open mind.
I mean even bookies offer more than one choice eventhough they know most of their clients will lose each year. So based upon what has been shown on this site and several others with actual pictures regardless of arranged double blind studies of our dear FDA here we can see results with more than just one sort of treatment...
Its one thing to believe in your product but quite another to tell others they are not telling the truth about what worked for them.
The cannabis science website celtchic left for a link above here has interesting pics indeed....
Have a look around GBP there is a lot to be seen out there
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celtchic
Canada
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Posted - 01/25/2012 : 22:14:55
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Originally posted by gbp
Waverider
Thanks for feedback, it seems to me that there is an abundance of "snake oil" remedies being trotted about by people with nothing better to do with their time then writing a load of bull****.Vitamin C, hydrogen peroxide, baking soda,eggplant,vinegar, blah, blah, blah, and not one has passed any scrutiny under clinical trial conditions - except PETTY SPURGE.
I find it hard to believe that there are still people grizzling about treatments that don't work.For heavens sake the cure results of the PETTY SPURGE clinical trials were nothing short of outstanding.
I will try to answer some of your questions as I find the answers.
GBP - With all due respect, you are wrong ... there are many trials going on regarding the medicinal use of cannabis. I'll post the links below if you're interested -- but somehow I think you're not. I would never say that hash oil will work for everyone but the doctor I am dealing with has said he’s had a 75-80% cure rate with ALL cancers (including melanoma). Those odds aren’t too bad.
You are also wrong about about PS being a 'one size fits all' cure. Nothing is. What I have learned since my diagnosis is that there are many different kinds of skin cancer ... what works for one person may not work for the next ... as evidenced by the person(s) who cured their lesions with cayenne pepper/honey and the hydrogen peroxide treatment (which is recommended by some dermatologists and a therapy used in many clinics -- as well as IV Vitamin C therapy for cancer, I might add). IMHO, I really don’t think that people with cancer have the time or energy to spew a bunch of 'rubbish' on blog sites.
All we have is hope and the best we can do is try and share it … not sell it.
FYI - Research on marijuana's medical potential, though slow, could soon yield prescription options:
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/research-marijuanas-medical-potential-though-slow-could-soon-161057392.html
http://yourlife.usatoday.com/health/medical/story/2012-01-22/Pot-based-prescription-drug-looks-for-FDA-OK/52745646/1
http://www.duluthnewstribune.com/event/article/id/220716/
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gbp
New Zealand
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Posted - 01/26/2012 : 03:30:31
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bonder - If you believe that marijuana will work for you, than all I can add is - I wish you all the best. |
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bonder
USA
186 Posts |
Posted - 01/26/2012 : 07:38:30
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GBP
I think you missunderstand...
We welcome ALL remedies here and are very interested in seeing the results with your pics!
An old American cowboy I once knew used to say..
"Don 't Whiz On My Boots And Tell Me Its Raining...
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bonder
USA
186 Posts |
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bonder
USA
186 Posts |
Posted - 01/26/2012 : 09:09:09
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OOPS forgot this REUTERS :)
best link for new info...
http://www.reuters.com/finance/stocks/CBIS.OB/key-developments
This being the case, some folks must agree with CNBC as maryjane becoming quite the new industry and that usually means eventually BIG PHARMA I am sad to say...
Be well,
Bonder |
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bonder
USA
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bonder
USA
186 Posts |
Posted - 02/28/2012 : 13:57:38
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Here's a way to pay for that topical treatment celtchic.
Most OTC stocks like this at least go to a buck or so just to get onto the regular market.
CBIS is up 7 cents to around .17 or .18 after announcements like this...
http://www.citiadr.idmanagedsolutions.com/news/global_story.idms?type=scrolling&ID_NEWS=223532376
One hundred bucks would turn into something quite nice at an etrade or tdameritrade shop.
Looks like big pharma is making way for cannabis therapy like the newscasters said last year.
Be Well Always,
Bonder
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bonder
USA
186 Posts |
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Thomas Haugen
USA
94 Posts |
Posted - 03/05/2012 : 19:14:51
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Bonder, what treatment regimen are you using recently?
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bonder
USA
186 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2012 : 00:16:26
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Hey Tom whats SHAKIN !!!!
To answer your question, after seeing how fast the brown stain on my skin from the Iodine tincture went away, I decided to work from the inside out.
After studying more about Max Gerson I bought a juicer to get the phytochemical thing going strong in my system and am loading up on carrots,broccoli,beets and grapefruit. Most of my success in being the only man I know of with 2 forms of Epilepsy that played football, has rock climbed,scuba dived and been a heartless jerk to way too many women in his younger years while not taking any medications came from a strict adherence to what was basically a Kosher diet. It was with the (ketogenic) module as a basis.
Also, I recently decided to give the chinese eggplant/apple cider vinegar goop a try after just seeing a halting from the external 50/50 orange crystals and DMSO applications.
It seems to me that either the alkalinity or absorption of moisture is what was resulting in the flaking off of the primary layer of skin and allowing some scabbing to occur but, at this point there is no way for me to determine if any apoptosis is actually occuring which in my estimation, is the best attack method for this cancer. In my opinion even as an amateur it is the body's ability to recognize the proper signals to cease replication and breaking through the blood barrier that needs to happen in order for any agent to call itself a cure all by itself. However, it seems that there needs to be a level playing field inside ourselves and that (raw fruit and vegetable) juicing and using supplements like fish oil vitamin C etc. is the quickest way to get there. I must say that on the days I rub DMSO on my face I feel a heck of a lot keener with my wits which is important to a guy that had 3 blood clots in his lung that stopped air from getting to his head.
THERE IS ONE THING FOR SURE....
It will be a cannabinoid protocol probably from a higher CBD strain of the plant that will be what will give me the faith for a total cure and what will help my seizure disorder at the same time.
I live sort of close to Canada and may be able to get a neurologist to prescribe, we will see...
Anything new on your end?
Be Well Always,
Bonder |
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bonder
USA
186 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2012 : 12:13:48
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Tom, I found a wonderful piece on cell death that you may not have seen before...
Fatty acids and neurotransmitters raise an eyebrow for me always but, I am now pondering cellular re-uptake which has been dormant in my memory for some time now.
The anti-tumor effect of AEA and apoptosis lingo is truly remarkable.
The link is right above the naturopathic vitamin banner.
(Ever since I decided to follow the experiences of this site, I have put what I find with video on the blog for everyone to see).
It is my best way of remembering things these days and I have a background in film&video.
Tell me what you think?
Be well always,
Bonder
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Thomas Haugen
USA
94 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2012 : 20:15:54
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Bonder, your latest post has me a little confused - please post a link for me to follow.
The DMSO is so drying to the skin, I think it may account for some of the flaking.
I believe you are on the right track to attack the SCC topically and internally at the same time. The proof you are on the right track appears after apoptosis starts and the die-off of cells results in swelling, redness and inflammation. As I understand it the dead cells themselves trigger an immune response bringing white blood cells to the site and resulting in the above symptoms. Here's a little something I found:
"The concept of augmenting an immune response and promoting cellular immunity is the basis for modifying the process of the disease, not just alleviating symptoms. For example, this is important for preventing long-term outcomes such as invasive squamous cell carcinoma occurring in skin that has heavy photodamage or multiple actinic keratoses. This is based on the idea that antigen processing leads to inflammation that is focused against that target, whether it is inflammatory, infectious, or neoplastic. When inflammation is created with a purpose in this fashion, it can be considered to be a primary component of the process to modify the disease."
One key seems to be taking the right supplements and eating the right diet to augment the immune system, but you already knew that. I found Astaxanthin to be the biggest help. I have now finished the second sequence of using topicals for roughly 6 weeks and then resting the skin to see how it heals. I read somewhere that it takes about a month for skin cells to develop in the base layer and then slowly come to the surface and slough off.
My progress is slow but at least it's progress. Please tell me about the Chinese eggplant you are using. From what I've read, the alkaloids such as Solasodine in Solanum sodomaeum are the active ingredient in the so-called eggplant extract in Curaderm. Are you using something similar to that?
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bonder
USA
186 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2012 : 22:31:28
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Hey Tom,
"As I understand it the dead cells themselves trigger an immune response bringing white blood cells to the site and resulting in the above symptoms."
While calling for the blood cells to the target for eventual inflammation and repair is a good thing, I guess I have been paying more attention to the creation of a straighter pathway for the signaling of the cancer cells to as one doctor puts it...
"commit suicide"
According to what I have read more than once, and I fully admit that I may have not grasped things as a PHD does but, it seems to be understood that facilitating the CB receptors via natural products like Maryjane or by a synthetic copy of the plant plans a destiny for the cells that may be lacking in a body suffering from various cancers.
It seems that certain compounds can be part of the signaling of pathways and the eventual death of cancer cells while leaving healthy cells to go about their business unharmed.
One has to wonder at the fact that certain plants often used for recreation and others used for the easing of monthly cravings of human females have some of the same elements that make way towards the CB receptors, the brain and the immune system.
But once again, man has masked the true purposes of these gifts in order to line his pockets and push aside these valuable assets leaving the needy to fend for themselves in a world of panic and fear where they have few answers and only one obvious option and that is the pompous toutings of "modern medicine".
The thing I should bring up I guess is that while many folks here have superficial wounds perhaps wide and ugly to them, mine is over 1/4 inch thick and that is just for what I can see on the outside.
So, when I speak of the result being a drying of the first skin layer, it is because of seeing something like what happens when I use a rake without gloves and my hand loses some surface skin which is not very impressive to me. I always know that their will be tissue repair following the episode but, for a wound as deep as this one and the enemy is as menacing as cancer can be,my plan is to expose the blood just a little from the target area and see later if there is better healing in that small area compared to the rest of the tumor surface via the alkaloids from the eggplant recipe I have prepared and let set for a bit before applying it.
You see, in my case I don't just need something to arise from underneath the skin and be pushed away, I need something that will signal my body to begin the emaciation of a surfaced and blood-fed object.
This is why I am paying attention to boosting my immune system and hoping that without the creation of pus and other rejecting elements I will still be able to one day not see an object on my face that has bothered me for some time now.
Then the question will be what has occurred beneath the skin surface and will I become cancer-free as others have become in the past?
Personally,some of my efforts are because of what has been printed about the the effects on neurotransmitters at the same time.
Be well always,
Bonder
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Thomas Haugen
USA
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Posted - 03/06/2012 : 23:34:32
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Bonder, if the therapy can induce apoptosis then that's great. I guess what I was getting at is how you can tell whether apoptosis is occurring, and the swelling and inflammation are good signs that cells are dying. This happened when I was not using anything topically, it was all caused by my immune system. I had the swelling and inflammation but no pus or open sore, just a huge flaking off, comparable to getting a minor burn where the skin turns red and then some days later the skin dies and flakes off revealing new skin underneath. If you don't see any swelling/inflammation then you may not be getting any apoptosis.
It would be even better if a second process was occurring alongside the apoptosis, something like an unmasking of the cancer cells so the immune system can recognize them as foreign and attack. That's why I would be hopeful the white blood cells and other immune cells that have gathered at the site of apoptosis could then engage in the complex signaling to identify the cancer cells.
Regarding neurotransmitters, keep in mind the immune system is regulated almost entirely by endorphins. Endorphin production can be markedly increased by low dose naltrexone. |
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bonder
USA
186 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2012 : 08:40:40
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Tom,
Thanx for the low dose naltrexone tip, I'll pick some up this week !!
Far be it from me to try to argue a point with you online...
( I've seen the wounded online soldiers grasping at their ankles as they hobble away from your engagement with them) lol...
But, I am of the opinion that I do not have a (carcinoma in situ )
Carcinoma in situ
(Cancer at this very early stage is often called 'carcinoma in situ'. This just means that it is very small and hasn't spread into the surrounding area, or spread anywhere else in the body. Some researchers think that cancers can get to this point and may then stop developing for many months or years.These cancers are still so small that they will probably not be found unless they are somewhere where they are easy to spot, for example in the skin. A carcinoma in situ in an internal organ will usually be too small to pick up on a scan. The exceptions are breast cancer and cervical cancer. Carcinomas in situ can be picked up on mammograms and in cervical smears.)
But rather a tumor that has created it's own blood supply
Blood vessel growth - angiogenesis.
Normal cells can stimulate new blood vessels to grow. This happens to repair damaged tissue when wounds are healing and is called 'angiogenesis'. So, normal cells have genes that can produce proteins called angiogenic factors, which switch blood vessel growth on. They also have genes that produce proteins called antiangiogenic factors, which switch blood vessel growth off.
Researchers looking at angiogenesis think that the ability to grow new blood vessels is the big difference between a carcinoma in situ and a growing cancer. They think that a carcinoma in situ may be dormant and unable to spread for some time. But at some point it triggers tiny blood vessels called capillaries to grow. The cancer can then grow and spread into the body tissues around it.
This might happen because the cancer cells have mutated and lost antiangiogenic genes (the 'off switches' for blood vessel growth). Or because their angiogenic genes ('on switches') may have become permanently switched on. It is possible that both these things have happened and it is the balance between the two that is important.
Once a cancer can stimulate blood vessel growth, it can grow bigger and grow more quickly. It will stimulate the growth of hundreds of new capillaries from the nearby blood vessels to bring it nutrients and oxygen.
(The idea of me looking in the mirror and thinking this is just getting so much bigger because of the cancer cells dying and blood cells gathering to the target by my immune system, I will admit scares me a little).
While we both know I am all for the boosting of the immune system,I am also for my system becoming better able to cause cell death when needed without the use of synthetic poisons.
This is why I am now changing strategies to alkaloids and more than likely to cannabinoids when able.
Isnt it amazing how modern medicine has just repackaged natural things while creating nasty side effects from their packaging....
http://www.livestrong.com/article/151562-alkaloids-cancer-treatment/
Except for Dr. Bill Cham...
http://www.curadermbec5.com/can-i-simply-eat-eggplant
His therapy seems to optimize the alkaloids by free sugar extraction.
As I said before, I will eventually have most faith in a cure when I am using cannabinoid therapies but, what the heck,
a little organic eggplant, cider vinegar and DMSO on my face can't really hurt me while watching tv.
lets see if anything happens to the lesion that was not happening before.
It is still my opinion that as a man who has investigated things I eat,drink and smell and their effects on my system for over 30 years, DMSO has been the best carrier and is allowing better brain function for me.
Thanx for that help friends...
Be Well Always,
Bonder
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Thomas Haugen
USA
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Posted - 03/07/2012 : 11:21:30
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Bonder, I agree DMSO is a great carrier, maybe the best. Keep in mind that DMSO cannot dissolve certain size molecules (I forget, maybe big ones?) and for that reason it may be prudent to use a little vodka (ethyl alcohol & water) in addition to the DMSO to dissolve as many compounds as possible. I find the alcohol and water seem to mostly evaporate from the skin, but DMSO mixes with them and captures the good stuff in solution and carries it deep into the skin.
Anti-angiogenisis is yet a different process with its own set of problems, as I understand it, its own mechanism of action that you need to disrupt or reverse. It may be that some of your treatments will perform a dual role of apoptosis and anti-angiogenesis, definitely worth checking it out.
"Anti-angiogenesis Drugs?
With all the brouhaha (because they're "supposedly" non toxic) about anti-angiogenesis drugs (the drugs that stop the growth of new blood vessels to a tumor) lately, perhaps you should know this: your polyunsaturated oils (corn oils sold in supermarkets everywhere) promote the growth of small blood vessels (by promoting the production of "bad" prostaglandins).
Omega-3 oils inhibit angiogenesis by inhibiting the prostaglandins that promote it."
"The theory: basically (and my microbiology is primitive), cancer cells have been shown to have Opioid Growth Factor receptors (OGFr). When these receptors are coupled with an Opioid Growth Factor (OGF) peptide molecule, this sends a "don't divide" signal to the cancer cell. When the receptor is uncovered or blocked, that sends a "divide" signal to the cancer cell. Low dose naltrexone causes a 200-300% increase in endorphin production (endorphin = endogenous morphine – one kind of endogenous morphine is Opioid Growth Factor, also known as met-enkephalin). By making additional OGF available to be coupled with OGFr, cancer cell division is inhibited.
In a related process that is not well understood, the natural killer (NK) cell production is enhanced by OGF. These are the cells that hunt and kill foreign cells, including cancer cells, in the body.
Third, the increased supply of OGF will inhibit the process of angiogenesis, by which cancer cells generate blood vessels to carry nutrients to the tumor.
These three processes working together may slow or entirely reverse the multiplication of cancer cells. So LDN, by increasing the supply of OGF in the body, could be very promising in the fight against cancer. This value is further enhanced because LDN has no negative side effects, unlike the cell-destroying consequence of more common treatments for cancer." |
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bonder
USA
186 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2012 : 11:27:08
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Tom,
My bad, I should have said "thanx for the antioxident Astaxanthin tip"
I'll be getting it from the natural vitamin place I use online rather than the mixed up sort after doing some reading about it...
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newna
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Posted - 03/07/2012 : 12:32:38
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I hope it is okay to post here and I do not want to appear insensitive to your struggle. I am recruiting for a paid study on Basal Cell Carcinoma and looking for individuals who would be interested in participating. Please see details below:
**Basal Cell Carcinoma - $200 Compensation for Your Participation**
We are a national market research firm looking for individuals who have been diagnosed with Basal Cell Carcinoma to participate in a paid research study. NO MEDICATIONS ARE INVOLVED.All participants must meet one of the following:
1. Metastatic basal cell carcinoma, or locally advanced basal cell carcinoma that has recurred following surgery eliminating candidacy for surgery or radiation.
2. Locally advanced disease that is considered to be inoperable because the size, location and/or multiple recurrences which makes surgery impossible without irreparable damage
3. Basal cell carcinoma's have metastasized or recurred after surgery as well as tumors deemed untreatable with surgery after radiation
4. BCC with complicated lesions, current therapies are ineffective
5. Advanced BCC
All participants must have a webcam, internet connection, and must be comfortable blogging.
If interested, please contact me at nicholemaxwell@email.phoenix.edu with your name, ethnicity, gender, and contact information.
Thank you.
Nichole Maxwell
Recruiter, ATO Market Research
Fx: 847-253-3747
www.atoincresearch.com
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bonder
USA
186 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2012 : 18:50:39
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Tom,
If Nicole comes back with a SCC offer I just may have to fire off an email lol...
I gotcha on the LDN info and have not said much because of this website speaking of the need for prescription.
http://www.lowdosenaltrexone.org
These sort of things require doctor visits, Big Pharma and usually inflated pricing structures. I am sort of holding out for my doctor visits but, will not forget to research the info further. I already have my omega 3s covered and only use (virgin) olive oil due to a bit of info from awhile back and not because of some teenager fetish...
I suppose I should really just stick a crowbar in my wallet and send a check to Vanuatu if I'm going to be messing with glycoalkaloids.
Here is an abstract from when the goop was called (Zycure) http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-4632.2007.03363.x/pdf
Pretty impressive cure rate from a double blind.
Damn, here I go again sounding like when I used to work for the guy that discovered "The artist formally known as Prince" here in what used to be the American Tundra.
Well, too damn bad someone put me in "Scientist promotion jail" if they want to, it still impresses me and that is not an easy thing to do !!
(Bonder breathes a sigh of relief narrowly escaping a digital lambasting from a well known Cancer Critic) :)
Be Well Always,
Bonder
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Thomas Haugen
USA
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Posted - 03/07/2012 : 23:22:21
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Bonder, naltrexone generic is Nodict 3-month supply $27 United Pharmacies http://www.unitedpharmacies.com/customer/product.php?productid=758
I can't write about prescription here, just know it's no problem.
If you decide to buy LMK as I copied a lot of instructions for mixing, dosage, starting slow, etc.
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Thomas Haugen
USA
94 Posts |
Posted - 03/08/2012 : 00:08:34
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Just found this Curaderm Bill Cham paper with pics of a 4cm (big) SCC that healed over 14 weeks. Get ready for an open sore for 3 months.
Oh man he went on Dr. Oz. Good luck getting any curaderm in the next few months.
http://www.scirp.org/journal/PaperDownload.aspx?paperID=7563&returnUrl=http://www.scirp.org%2Fjournal%2FHome.aspx%3FIssueID%3D1074
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bonder
USA
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Posted - 03/08/2012 : 09:04:22
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Tom,
Yeah naturally it will be the worst wait from the best known source right ? lol...
I guess one can buy the stuff off of amazon etc but, I might just be getting a sweeter smelling form of what is in a glass jar in my fridge !
I'm going to take a moment here to ask your honest opinion of my thoughts thanx to the DMSO usage.
During my investigation for the cure of my cancer issue I have come across what seems to be an enormous global discontent for modern medicine.
I have my own reasons for not having taken any vaccinations (free or not) for over 20 years.
After looking into your naltrexone generic info, I discovered once again groups that are formed with the idea that Big Pharma is poisoning our world. I'll be placing the link for Dr McCandless and her book " Children with starving brains" on canceramerican along with a blog I put together on how to use google for donations. Now that there is a way to get a swipe from a credit card and have it go directly into a bank account without a (merchant account). Anyone can get a person's credit card donation in person, over the phone or from an email because the swiper is not always required.
Why is this important to anyone on this site?
Because in order to maintain ourselves in a world where America is losing it's Big Dog status to other countries, we must realize that not all of our competitors will have the moral positions we would like them to have. And when I walk into an airport and see all of the stretch pants being worn in place of designer jeans, I come to a conclusion that
The War In Iraq Is Merely A Diversion.
The real war is being fought right here,right,now, in our own back yard and unless people start coming together like the occupy movement is showing us, The Eugenics video I offered everyone to see will be a mere smirk against the Nazi movement in B&W.
Because of the internet, everyone can have their own blog or website for free or almost free and thereby ask friends,churches etc. to donate to medical causes in order to fight what seems to be a silent battle towards the (Dumbing Down Of America) and degradation of our natural existence.
We are in battle against ourselves aren't we Tom ...
I welcome ANY free internet marketing information here so I can offer it now that part of my research is expanding.
If Dan is apposed to this, he can certainly email me privately. ( He must know my address lol).
Be Well Always,
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bonder
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Posted - 03/08/2012 : 11:31:04
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Bonder Has Grapefruit And His Words For Breakfast...
This morning I looked out the window and recalled getting out of bed at 3 a.m. feeling a bit more stinging than usual upon my face.
When I looked in the mirror later in the day I saw some new things:
A larger area opened where was the place I slit for blood flow seepage so, I softened & removed the scab swiftly and then realized there was a bit more pain coming from the bottom of the tumor adjoining my short beard. A black liquid was oozing from the underneath periphery of the tumor which is brand new for this Cancer Camakaze .
It may be that there is more happening to this ugly friend of mine that just a halting of size and so, I will wait to apply my eggplant sauce.
This event sort of reinforces my idea of topping off a larger lesion with a razor to get deeper into the wound but, I'm the sort of guy that has dislocated my shoulder from arm wrestling as a youth so, readers beware...
Be well Always,
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Thomas Haugen
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Posted - 03/09/2012 : 01:28:31
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Bonder, you know to be careful abrading or lacerating the surface. A different way to remove the topmost layer is accomplished by exfoliate acids - google it. Also, (nailfile) sandpaper?
The black exudate you're seeing - no infection there I hope. You know, open skin = opportunistic target for bugs. Sounds like cells are dying, are you seeing any swelling/redness?
You wrote: "I'm going to take a moment here to ask your honest opinion of my thoughts thanx to the DMSO usage."
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bonder
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Posted - 03/09/2012 : 07:30:27
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Tom,
I understand how to (abrade) the surface of a wound but, one thing that seems consistent with the postings on the net by cancer victims is how they are always using modalities that require them to hope that chemicals pass through the Epidermis first.
Once I became dedicated to fight this thing the first thing I did was to shave off a small section of the tumor to see how fast my body would recover from the cut and see what sort of scaring would occur... (I have plenty of (Sodium Chloride in my closet).
This was before using DMSO because I realized with this carrier, you are bringing in more than usual including what is on your dirty hands.
As usual for me, I recovered quite quickly and there was (no) scaring in the target area, just regular skin over a large bump on my face.
The vertical line over the center I speak of now that is suddenly expanding where I soften and remove scabbing, is most certainly due to the application of vitamin C. The old horizontal slice I made months ago is nowhere to be seen.
Over my lifetime, any stitches, deep accidental or surgery cuts have healed quite quickly.
Today it would be safe to say there is actual swelling that has occurred due to the fact that there are now a couple pinpoint where blood is seeping from the top of the wound where there was nothing before and the mass seems (tighter) or, it is simply vitamin C hacking into the Epidermis, Either way, vitamin C is having an effect and probably much faster due to DMSO....
So, our hope for blood cells moving in is probably the case and now given the general knowledge of immunology and infection I suppose I am to wait for the swelling to go down and assume that is progress.
An author says this
"The best thing about skin cancer is that it is often slow in spreading and invading the deeper layers of the skin. As long as the cancer is only on the surface, it can easily be removed."
I can feel the mass underneath my lip with my tongue and is over an inch wide on the surface after having the whole outside tumor removed once before when it was much smaller.
So, the surgeon's knife seems like a joke to me.
I am more interested in causing my body to start doing a better job at killing invaders and not only that, in telling the cancer to kill itself !!
I'm a little sad about it, perhaps I'll go to the organic food store today and purchase some raw chocolate...
I hear that can help once in awhile :)
The honest question verbiage was just me rattling on about things I write about now that I am having much more abstract thought process occurring. No need to respond about your opinions of vaccinations harming our children and if you think donations to groups like http://www.ldnresearchtrust.org/ should be funded by making free donation blogs like I created in the past with googlemarketers.com
This is probably the wrong center of influence for it.
But, this is what you get when a guy like me takes on a project, maybe someday someone will pay me to research for them eh?
lol...
Be Well Always,
Bonder
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Posted - 03/09/2012 : 08:31:06
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Forgive my babbling once again, this is just my notations in a place I know I'll see everyday...
" FOR HEAD AND NECK, FORGET RELIANCE ON INGESTION ONLY' THE POTENCY OF THE AGENT LOSES TREMENDOUS VALUE AS IT GOES THROUGH THE G.I. AND THE G.I. IS ALREADY PROGRAMMED TO THE EXTERNAL.
TAKE LIQUID AND SWISH IT AROUND THE INSIDE OF THE MOUTH FOR TRANS... (Including daily juices)
Ibuprofen has been shown to promote scar tissue formation (inhibits muscle healing/regeneration) so is generally a no-no in terms of muscle damage. Icing on the other hand appears to be more beneficial (or less damaging!).
Considering the use of Sang but, wondering if it will cease the good of vit C ?
http://www.nature.com/nri/focus/mucosal/index.html
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bonder
USA
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Posted - 03/09/2012 : 09:23:15
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Latest cannabis science info...
The photo's of relevence of the 3rd patient, can be seen after clicking on the web sight in the press release. Then look to the left and click on patient # 3. I was confused at first thinking they were the same old photo's. I was wrong. The very 1st grouping of 3 photo's as you scroll down are the only ones you should look at so that you do not become confused. The 3 photo's have dates on them The oldest photo on the left shows the two inch tumar with a little black spot on the top. The 2nd photo shows that were the 1st black spot was from the 1st photo has now collapsed and died. The 2nd photo should then be looked at again. Notice that the rim in the 2nd photo has not turned black yet. Then finally look at the 3rd photo you will then see that the rim has now turned black. So if the logic of the black spot from the first photo and the collapse of the black spot area in the 2nd photo, then you can logically assume that the black rim in the third picture will collapse as did the previous photos shows. In other words where you see black on top that is the death of the tumor and the black areas cave in. Thus soon we should see the rim collapse. This is huge folks, a two inch tumor collapsing where radiation and chemo couldnt get the the job done the harmless hemp oil extract collapsed it. This stock will fly. Go look at the photos again and if there are any doctors or people with degrees in logic, am I making a logical preposition?
I'm on to killer T cells...
Be Well always,
Bonder
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Thomas Haugen
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Posted - 03/09/2012 : 10:57:56
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Bonder, which website are you viewing those photos?
When you wrote about feeling the inside of the SCC with your tongue, the thought came to me, a poultice of sanguinarine toothpaste on a piece of plastic wrap inserted between lip and gum would deliver sang to the inside of the SCC. But then I found this:
DENTISTS SEE LEGACY OF DISCONTINUED INGREDIENT IN PATIENTS' MOUTHS
COLUMBUS, Ohio - A new study suggests that an old formulation of a particular brand of dental products has left its legacy in patients' mouths in the form of potentially precancerous lesions.
Sanguinarine, a natural anti-bacterial agent, was once a key ingredient in the Viadent line of toothpastes and mouth rinses. Researchers suspect that sanguinarine causes the formation of white lesions, called oral leukoplakia.
The current study suggests that users of the former Viadent formulation were eight to 11 times more likely to develop leukoplakia than were those who had never used the product.
"Patients who had used Viadent products were 9.7 times more likely to have developed the white lesions."
While leukoplakia often causes no symptoms and may disappear, it can also sometimes lead to oral cancer, said Carl Allen, a study co-author and a professor of oral pathology and dentistry at Ohio State University.
"We're seeing patients who used the old formulation of Viadent develop lesions two, three, four, even five years after they stopped using the product," he said.
http://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/viadent.htm
You don't want to harm yourself, but the location of your SCC tempts a unique opportunity to attack it from the back side. Be careful.
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bonder
USA
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Posted - 03/09/2012 : 13:57:34
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Tom,
Make sure you don't look at these photos if you are about to eat (I'm totally serious)
http://cannabisscience.com/download/patientthree_mar72012_update5.pdf
The words about the cannabis were not mine, I copied them from yahoo (guess I forgot the "quote" markings).
I read a little something about the toothpaste thing once before. I have to kind of wonder if it was a chemical interaction with Sanguinarine that was the issue? Like perhaps FLOURIDE !!!!!!! even if it was only from the damn water supply.
I mean, it is the main element that is in Bloodroot and I've not read anything on this site about cancer-after-effects from the Bloodroot advocates....
My thought was to have a few drops of it either in warm water as indicated of maybe in a juice.
I sure hope the guy from Ohio state is wrong about his conclusions for the sake of all those folks that went through all that stuff with Bloodroot Yikes !!!
Looks like the docs have another word for cell death when killed by ascorbate.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20455663
Be Well Always,
Bonder
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bonder
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Posted - 03/16/2012 : 10:02:30
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PICS OF CELL DEATH IN 8 DAYS
(WWW.CANCERAMERICAN.COM)
Once the line was cut into the bloodstream and left to clot then scabbing occurred and the action into the Epidermis started.
Be Well Always,
Bonder
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Thomas Haugen
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Posted - 03/16/2012 : 10:58:54
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Bonder, your link takes me to a canceramerican home page with minimal info and links. How do I get to the info you are quoting?
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bonder
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Posted - 03/16/2012 : 11:41:13
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Hey Tom,
Try your smartphone or another computer..
I could only fit so many videos on my site based on my current research and the pics of my face are at the very bottom.
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bonder
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Posted - 03/16/2012 : 13:13:05
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MANY PEOPLE LOOK AT THIS THERAPY AS SOMETHING FOR STAGE IV PATIENTS ONLY (SAYS WHO?) WHY NOT START EARLY???
ONCE AGAIN I FIND ALKALINITY...
I WOULD HAVE NEVER THOUGHT OF HOURLY JUICE INGESTION TO CLEANSE LIKE IN THE GERSON THERAPY.
Carbohydrates
Foods such as oatmeal, potatoes, vegetables and fruit provide the chief source of clean fuel that will provide energy for a
recovering patient but must be taken in larger quantities, as they are low in kilo-joules. On the Gerson Therapy the high
vegetable content is taken mostly in juice form that provides sufficient energy for daily energy requirements and the higher
energy demand of regeneration. When carbohydrates are oxidized they do not leave an acidic waste in the body as do protein and
fats. The end products are carbon dioxide and water that promote an ALKALINE ENVIRONMENT. This encourages the elimination of
sodium from the tissues, reduces toxicity and acidity and enhances the passage of potassium into the cell.
Dr. Gerson found that inclusion of protein in the diet reduced sodium elimination and slowed the process of detoxification down.
The more acidity you produce from a high protein intake, the greater the amount of sodium absorbed by the kidneys. He also
observed that dietary protein STIMULATED tumor growth, but that when restricted for a short period (6-12 weeks), the immune
profile changed and the white T-cell count improved. This reinforced the immune response to tumors, fungi and viruses (Gerson
1999). An adverse effect on the immune system is noted after this period so a form of soured milk product is introduced. The
maximum amount allowed is 8 oz/200 g (1 cup) yogurt or 4 oz/ 100g pot cheese. Raw, soured milk products are pre-digested by the
bacterial conversion of lactose to lactic acid but it is increasingly difficult to find raw skimmed milk. The pasteurization
process distorts the protein and kills the natural enzymes (Fallon 1995).
NO WONDER DR. GERSON DIED OF ARSENIC POISONING, HE WAS TOO FAR AHEAD OF HIS TIME FOR THE OTHERS...
BE WELL ALWAYS,
BONDER
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bonder
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Posted - 03/17/2012 : 11:12:49
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Tom,
After no meat for over a week now, yesterday I had aches with a warm forehead and felt like I had made a mistake with the fruits and vegetables.
Until I read this...
"Physically-linked Reactions: Some emotional toxins are linked to physical toxins and impaired body chemistry. An unhealthy body sends negative messages to the brain. These may be experienced as feelings of fear, anxiety or unworthiness.
Toxic metals can directly affect neurotransmitters and parts of the brain associated with anger, fear and other emotions. Iron, for example, is known to settle in the amygdala, an area of the brain associated with anger.
As physical toxins are eliminated, emotional states will change. As health improves, the body sends positive messages to the brain. An emotional crisis may occur as it becomes more difficult to hold on to negative feelings and beliefs."
http://drlwilson.com/Articles/retracing.htm
Be Well Always,
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bonder
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bonder
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Posted - 03/18/2012 : 16:47:04
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So here we go Tom,
It has been observed that different levels of hydrogen peroxide can induce distinct responses within a cell. For example, in the fission yeast Schizosaccharomyces pombe, distinct transcriptional responses are induced in response to low and high levels of hydrogen peroxide (Quinn et al., 2002) Similarly, recent studies in mammalian cells have revealed concentration-specific responses to hydrogen peroxide. For example, different patterns of p53-regulated gene expression are initiated in response to different levels of hydrogen peroxide; antioxidants are induced in response to low levels of hydrogen peroxide, where they lower ROS levels and hence protect the cell from DNA damage, while higher levels also stimulate the expression of pro-oxidants involved in apoptosis (Sablina et al., 2005)
What concentration of H202 needs to be introduced in what I am guessing is an alkaline environment, due to change in diet on a temporary basis in order to initiate the expression of pro-oxidants and havr the cancer cells catch the signal to die???
If the immune system is still not up to speed and the liver is not yet appropriately detoxified, then will H2O2 therapy and the properly taken minerals needed for reaction force the cells to halt long enough to let the immune system catch back up?
Be Well Always,
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bonder
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Thomas Haugen
USA
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Posted - 03/19/2012 : 22:57:23
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Bonder, I have seen so many studies about the liberation of hydrogen peroxide near cancer cells, but so far I haven't come to an understanding as to which substances or protocols will actually do the deed. Logically, trying to get hydrogen peroxide from the mouth to the blood stream to the cancer site without all of it reacting along the way seems far-fetched (virtually impossible). Instead I am looking at ways to create the peroxidation in situ as we latinators say. Have you fastened on an idea?
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bonder
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Posted - 03/20/2012 : 00:36:46
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Tom,
I admit that I have been at this for far less than you have but, being as though we are talking about lesions on the skin not buried way inside an intestine or something, why not like this but without all the monitor gear
ethanol ablation.
Gelczer RK, Charboneau JW, Hussain S, Brown DL.
Source
Department of Diagnostic Radiology, Mayo Clinic and Mayo Foundation, Rochester, Minnesota 55905, USA.
Abstract
Percutaneous ethanol injection therapy performed with sonographic visualization is a steadily growing therapeutic method that can be used in the ablation of solid and cystic masses in a variety of anatomic locations. Ethanol has been used for many years as an angiographically administered agent for vascular embolization of tumors such as hepatic and renal neoplasms. It was first used as a percutaneously injected agent for the sclerosis of renal cysts. Local infiltration or intravascular injection of ethanol leads to cell death by causing cell membrane lysis, protein denaturation, and vascular occlusion. Because of the initial success in the sclerosis of renal cysts, percutaneously injected ethanol is now used in the ablation of hepatic cysts and solid tumors, such as hepatocellular carcinomas. As a treatment agent, ethanol combines the benefits of being widely available, inexpensive, efficacious, and relatively easy to administer. Optimal results require that the radiologist have considerable experience in ultrasonographic scanning techniques and facility with percutaneous needle insertion under real-time visualization. Alternatively, the radiologist may choose CT as a method to visualize needle placement. Percutaneous ethanol injection therapy usually is an effective alternative to conventional surgical resection of liver lesions and has a low complication rate.
How is percutaneous alcohol injection done and how does it work?
In this technique, pure alcohol is injected into liver cancers to kill the cancer cells. The alcohol is injected through the skin (percutaneously) into the tumor using a very thin needle with the help of ultrasound or CT visual guidance. Alcohol induces tumor destruction by drawing water out of tumor cells (dehydrating them) and thereby altering (denaturing) the structure of cellular proteins.It may take up to five or six sessions of injections to completely destroy the cancer.
But the question still remains...
What level of vitamin C to achieve the (chemolike) effect from H202???
Vitamin C
Vitamin C (ascorbic acid) is a major water-soluble antioxidant with a variety of biological functions. It may be important in maintaining proper immune cell function. Even though vitamin C commonly functions as an antioxidant, it can also act as a pro-oxidant, that is actually oxidizing tissues, which is what chemotherapy does.
Vitamin C converts free radicals into hydrogen peroxide, a molecule that can damage cell membranes if not neutralized by an enzyme inside the cell called catalase.
Tumour cells have 10-100 times less catalase than normal cells, and are therefore more sensitive than normal to hydrogen peroxide. Vitamin C accumulates in solid tumours at concentrations higher than those in surrounding normal tissue. The accumulation of vitamin C preferentially in cancer tissues has raised concerns that vitamin C may provide tumours with anti-oxidant protection from chemotherapeutic agents. In practice therefore, the avoidance of vitamin C and indeed all antioxidants, when going through a chemotherapy programme, is important.
To obtain vitamin C at pro-oxidant levels, at which it destroys cancer cells, is only achievable by intravenous infusion.
An Alkalized Body Better Manages Damaging Free Radicals
A properly alkalized body will be able to manage free radicals, and be able to optimize the antioxidants you take in, in various ways. "The countless names of illnesses do not really matter. What does matter is that they all come from the same root cause…Too much tissue acid waste in the body"
pH and alkalinity are closely related to the free radical process that are both essential to life and harmful. The body produces oxygen free radicals as a natural part of making energy in most cells. Because making energy and thus free radicals cannot be avoided, the body has evolved a variety of defenses against free radicals known as antioxidants. These quench or neutralize the free radicals after they are produced, allowing cells to make energy without building up toxic levels of free radicals. Tissue acid waste that is associated with every ill known to man, is directly connected to free radicals. Tissue acid waste, free radicals, oxidants are basically one in the same.
The problem with free radicals arises when the body comes under assault above and beyond the normal metabolic process. Since the air, water, and food all contain significant sources of free radicals, the body now has to quench these or face cellular damage and disease. Additionally, chronic inflammation causes a great increase in free radicals because immune cells use free radicals to try to control the inflammation. White blood cells are very active; requiring and producing a lot of energy and free radicals. Fortunately fruits and vegetables - especially green grasses - contain numerous types of antioxidants that can bolster the body's defenses against free radicals.
When your body is properly alkalized, you will have the foundation in which to deal with the damaging, aging effects of free radicals.
Be well always,
Bonder
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bonder
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Thomas Haugen
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Posted - 03/20/2012 : 14:41:47
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Bonder, thanks for the dynamic flow Vitamin C paper. It ties in to the peroxide discussion:
"Phagocytic white blood cells use oxidants to damage and absorb foreign bodies. Metabolism, ascorbate absorption and cycling increase greatly when white blood cells are activated. Transporters and
related mechanisms in white blood cell membranes allow them to accumulate ascorbate, even when levels are low in the surrounding medium."
As I understand it the damaging oxidants they use are peroxides. I always had a hard time believing that Pauling was wrong and megadoses of C were useless. From this paper I'll try to space out my C intake in several doses throughout the day.
Allergies are a dysfunction of the immune system, and when I started taking megadoses of C my pollen allergies abated, which to me may be a sign of improved immune system function. Coincidentally, I live in the mountains between two premier orange growing areas, and I eat an orange nearly every day.
I rested my face; now it's back to the topicals including C.
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bonder
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Posted - 03/21/2012 : 11:05:14
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Here is a tad of info for the history of chemo and links to very good ascorbic acid publications if anyone is looking for the facts...
"Cancer chemotherapy is the use of certain chemicals to selectively poison the cancer cells without killing the patient. We will not go into the chemistry of the different materials used other than to say that they are all very poisonous and dangerous (host toxic). This, of course, limits the amounts which can be given the patient at any one time. One group of materials used in cancer chemotherapy is the so-called nitrogen mustards, which are derivatives of the mustard gases of World War I; you can conceive the type of material used in this therapy. While the chemotherapeutic agent will attack the cancer cells, the patient is left without means to overcome the toxic manifestations of the medicament. In spite of the fact that ascorbic acid has been known to be an efficient detoxicating agent for poisonous substances (see Chapter 24) no reports have been found in the medical literature for the combined administration of these toxic medicaments along with large doses of ascorbic acid as a supportive measure. The presence of high optimal levels of ascorbic acid might also improve the toxic action on the cancer cells(5), but we will never know unless it is thoroughly investigated. The potential benefits, if successful, would seem to make these clinical trials an urgent necessity."
http://vitamincfoundation.org/stone/
http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/198x/smith-lh-clinical_guide_1988.htm
How can we really assume that the fda is looking out for (our) best interests?
Be Well Always,
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bonder
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Posted - 03/24/2012 : 07:03:34
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WHY CHARLOTTE GERSON IS RIGHT...
REGULAR JUICES INSTEAD OF COLAS.
FORGET ABOUT THE SUN FORGET ABOUT THE PILLS AND REALIZE THAT STAGNATION OF FLUIDS IS WHAT MAY BE KILLING US...
In the past ejaculation frequency was associated with a persons health. It was thought that if a person ejaculated too much that they would become ill.
Times have changed, today we know more about the human body than in the past. Ejaculation does not in itself make one feeble. The male body is constantly replenishing sperm. What can cause problems is risky sexual behavior,poor overall health and a person's mental and emotional health.
Like any other physical activity you enjoy if you over do it you will get tired and need to rest.
Sex is no different, if approached in a healthy, balanced way sexual activity is good for a person's
health.
Another factor is our environment today. While retaining ejaculate in the body was not considered harmful 60 years ago, recent information has shown that because of the increase in toxins in our daily life that enter our body. Retaining fluids might encourage cancer and other tumorous growths in the reproductive system. This would explain why we see a sharp increase in ovarian , breast, anal, prostate and other cancers.
Unless, we change our views on these matters we will continue to see increasing cancers and other diseases that are a result of lifestyle and ignorance regarding our bodies and how to keep them healthy.
IT MAY BE THAT REGULAR DETOXIFICATION OF THE LIVER IS NECESSARY IN A WORLD WHERE OUR BODIES TAKE APPROX 10000 HITS TO OUR DNA WITHIN 24 HRS IF THE SEMEN EXPULSION THEORY IS CORRECT...
AS A MALE OVER 50 YRS I SUPPOSE I COULD GO TO A CLINIC AND BEND OVER WHILE READING A MAGAZINE FOR 10 MINUTES...
An elderly Englishman of high nobility and owner of many profitable acres was snoring away late one night stooped over upon his favorite reading chair. His man servant woke him up abruptly and said " Sir, it seems as though you have a Woodrow showing from beneath your trousers shall I awaken the Mrs ? "
The gentleman looked to confirm the observation and with a smile said...
" No Jenkins, fetch me my frock coat and we'll sneak it into town"
"Thirty years of clinical experimentation has led to a successful therapy for advanced cancer. This therapy is based on the concepts (1) that cancer patients have low immuno-reactivity and generalized tissue damage, especially of the liver, and (2) that when the cancer is destroyed, toxic degradation products appear in the bloodstream which lead to coma and death from liver failure. The therapy consists of high potassium, low sodium diet, with no fats or oils, and minimal animal proteins. Juices of raw fruits and vegetables and of raw liver provide active oxidizing enzymes which facilitate rehabilitation of the liver. Iodine and niacin supplementation is used. Caffeine enemas cause dilation of bile ducts, which facilitates excretion of toxic cancer breakdown products by the liver and dialysis of toxic products from blood across the colonic wall. The therapy must be used as an integrated whole. Parts of the therapy used in isolation will not be successful. This therapy has cured many cases of advanced cancer."
DR. MAX GERSON 1956
http://www.doctoryourself.com/gersonspeech.html
BE WELL ALWAYS
BONDER
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Thomas Haugen
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Posted - 03/24/2012 : 13:06:02
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Dr. Lisanti's lecture on YouTube about Parasitic Coupling and N-aceytyl-L-Cysteine. He really is teaching something very important.
If you are curious about sugar, hydrogen peroxide and similar cancer fighting theories, dive in.
Anyone researching Warburg Effect should come across Dr. Lisanti's Reverse Warburg which is very important to understanding how cancer cells get nourishment and grow. The lecture is at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssoAou8Ll6w
Before you watch it you may want to review the following terms.
"New cancer research suggests that we have misunderstood the feeding habits of cancer for decades, wrongly believing that cancer cells produce the bulk of their energy by breaking down glucose in the absence of oxygen, known as the Warburg effect.
Dr. Michael Lisanti of the Kimmel Cancer Center at Jefferson University proposes that when a cell turns cancerous it begins to release hydrogen peroxide. The resulting free radicals cause oxidative damage that prompt support cells in the surrounding connective tissues, known as fibroblasts, to digest themselves.
In a New Scientist article, Dr. Lisanti explains, "It's the Warburg effect, but in the wrong place. Cancer cells can feed off normal cells as a parasite."
Dr. Lisanti and his team found that treating cancer cells with catalase, an enzyme that destroys hydrogen peroxide, triggered a five-fold increase in cancer cell death. The article also goes on to say that Dr. Lisanti is now gathering evidence to find out whether his ideas can be applied to many cancers or just a few."
ROS = Reactive Oxygen Species - also known as oxygen radicals or pro-oxidants.
These reactive oxygen intermediates include peroxides. They contribute to oxidative damage to nucleic acids, proteins and lipids. ROS can cause significant damage to cell structures. Cumulatively, this is known as oxidative stress. Cancer cells use hydrogen peroxide to damage cells around them.
MCF-7 is a breast cancer cell line. MCF is the acronym of Michigan Cancer Foundation.
Fibroblasts - Connective tissue cells, the structural framework (stroma) for animal tissues. Fibroblasts are the most common cells of connective tissue. Cancer cells exist in nets surrounded by fibroblasts. Fibroblasts can be induced to make food to feed cancer cells.
"We think lactate and ketones are the favorite foods of cancer cells." - Dr. Lisanti
Lactate is a product of fermentation and is produced during cellular respiration as glucose is broken down during normal metabolism and exercise. L-lactate dramatically increases the rate of metastasis.
Ketones are chemicals, the potentially toxic by-products of using body fat for energy instead of glucose from the foods eaten.
Ketones less often are generated from carbohydrates and amino acids.
Ketone that is most important in cancer: 3-hydroxy-butyrate
L-NAME = L-Nitro-Arginine Methyl Ester, a non-selective inhibitor of nitric oxide synthase.
HIF1 = Hypoxia-inducible factor, is a protein found in mammal cells growing at low oxygen concentrations.
HIF combined in fibroblast cells can make tumors bigger.
HIF combined in cancer cells can make tumors smaller.
Hypoxia-inducible factors (HIFs) are transcription factors. A transcription factor is a protein that binds to specific DNA sequences, thereby controlling the flow (or transcription) of genetic information from DNA to mRNA.
MCT4 - Monocarboxylate transporters (MCTs) are transmembrane proteins involved in the transport of monocarboxylates such as Lactate across the plasma membrane, which appear to play an important role in solid tumors. (transporting lactate from fibroblasts to cancer cells)
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Well Tom once more you have impressed me with your knowledge and your use of video proof which is something I can relate to.
Funny, my thread shrank from 3 to 2 pages in a day?
Perhaps someone wants me to be more concise...
I truly would like to thank you and everyone here for the input and the inspiration to begin canceramerican.com.(as common as it may be)
It has been a true pleasure to be involved with such a noble cause and I will continue with my search for answers in my quest to find
what seems the last gauntlet left in a lifetime of subduing the monsters of society and wearing the scars of loved ones which it seems is sometimes necessary in order to give all that you had promised for the one thing,
You can never see but you can feel, you can know but not have proof of, recall but not forget
and hope will be waiting for you some day with the open arms that have been gone for a very long time....
I wrote a bit about it on the site which I suppose is not the best forum for it but, what the heck it is mine to do with as I please.
I found this after watching Dr Lisanti's wonderful video.
Product Description
N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine supports the health of the liver, brain, lungs, and other body tissues. Many of the beneficial actions of N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine, or NAC by Seeking Health are related to its ability to enhance the production of glutathione, one of the body’s most important antioxidants.
Typically our body’s ability to produce glutathione will begin to decline as we age. Every day exposure to enviornmental toxins increase the need for antioxidant protection from glutathione. Another reason to actively use NAC N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine.
What does NAC N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine by Seeking Health provide?
Protection for brain and nerve cells: NAC’s antioxidant property helps protect against damage to neurons, the specialized cells found in our nervous system that are vital to maintaining memory and cognitive function.
li>Pure and Potent NAC supplement: NAC by Seeking Health contains no flow agents, preservatives, allergens, flavors or colors. Dr Ben formulated this NAC supplement and all of the Seeking Health line to provide high quality nutrient supplements for people with chemical and/or food sensitivities.
Antioxidant activity: NAC is needed to produce intracellular glutathione, and adequate levels of glutathione are crucial for healthy function of the liver, nerve cells, brain, pancreas, and lungs.
Immune and respiratory system support: NAC has the ability to disrupt disulfide bonds of proteins found in mucus, allowing it to be more easily expelled from the lungs. The antioxidant action of NAC may also help protect the lungs and support the immune system.
Oral supplements of NAC N-Acetyl-L-Cysteineare a reliable way of increasing cellular production of glutathione, however if you are just supplementing with glutathione directly this is not an effective way of boosting its levels inside cells.
N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine may help if you are experiencing:
Pneumonia
Bronchitis
Emphysema
Chronic cough
Exposure to environmental toxins
NAC derivative of the amino acid cysteine that is used to synthesize glutathione, one of the most important antioxidant compounds for your body to assist in the detoxification process. NAC is normally present in high amounts in lung and liver tissues.
Use 500 mg per day
http://www.seekinghealth.com/nac-n-acetyl-l-cysteine-500-mg-90-vegetarian-capsules.html
Be well always,
Bonder
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Posted - 03/26/2012 : 00:35:29
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Bonder, I think there has been a misunderstanding. The reason the pages went from 3 to 2 in a day is I changed a forum setting from 60 entries per page to 120 entries per page. Nothing was lost. I was thinking it would be better for people to see more topics under each forum because there was good content available that was not easily seen. I was not thinking about the impact on the threads and maybe it was a bad idea. This has been a great thread and I did not mean to harm it.
I agree this is a noble cause. Plus, there have been at least some good results, but we still need more answers. Personally, I have done a 180 on skin cancer thanks to the grace of God and the people that contribute here. I wish you the best always. |
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Posted - 03/27/2012 : 00:48:16
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Ah Dan The Man !
We Finally Meet, Kudos For Such a Fine Endeavor...
I've had some bad experiences during times with googlemarketers which has the live occupy video display on it due to a former problem with (Livestream) and was hoping to avoid any other future net issues because money is tight and who wants to replace another hard drive lol...
Tom Haugen has been very helpful in opening up some doors for me to study this ailment that in my estimation will soon be fading as Mcdonalds finds there will be more profits in " Mcveggie Burgers than quarter pounders lol...
I've put a trailer for the film "Forks Over Knives" on canceramerican.com and a 90 minute plant-based thanksgiving cooking show down below it. Because of my success with a thing called the "ketogenic diet" during my teens, I was able to avoid the pitfalls of seizure medicines and the unavoidable toxic side effects common to most people compelled to live with them.
It is my conclusion that the way I'll overcome this current problem is by following the Gerson therapy for my insides at any rate, which to my amazement is not that hard once you realize that animal proteins are not all they are cracked up to be, milk is not a friend of the tumor and in my case,carrots rice and potatoes can be quite filling even for a guy in love with his T-Bones and roast chickens !
REMEMBER, THE HEALING REACTION MAY BE SWIFT IN COMING AND NEEDS YOUR PATIENCE...
http://www.cellhealthmakeover.com/understanding.html
The other thing I have observed is that the vitamin C (Pasting) is pretty aggressive once one gets below The Epidermis which seems a pretty tough bastard to penetrate. Lately Linus Pauling has been proven right again with mega-dosing and proper flow as noted by me earlier. It looks like The Warburg effect is in question and so the re-alkalizing of my form may or may not be a big help but, I've never brought a knife to a gunfight so, my plan is to do it all at the same time inside and out now that so many are saying most cancers are basically the same in nature. I had to teach my father that at least with a Neurohealth issue, timing was everything and so the ingestion of food, medicine and fluids needed to be done under a strict protocol in order to enjoy a somewhat normal lifestyle which meant carrying extra foods and at least waters wherever he went with or without an attendant.
http://www.neurohealth.org/
For the person battling cancer, it seems somewhat the same based upon the words of Charlotte Gerson. This means if you are healing on your own, bringing your goop and perhaps a bag lunch for a while with you to work and realizing that if the employer bugs you about it, simply decide if you like the job more than the amount of money you will gain with the right lawyer once becoming (familiar) with the ADA laws.
ACCOMMODATING EMPLOYEES WITH CANCER
The ADA requires employers to provide adjustments or modifications to enable people with disabilities to enjoy equal employment opportunities unless doing so would be an undue hardship (i.e., a significant difficulty or expense). Accommodations vary depending on the needs of an individual with a disability. Not all employees with cancer will need an accommodation or require the same accommodations, and most of the accommodations a person with cancer might need will involve little or no cost. An employer must provide a reasonable accommodation that is needed because of the limitations caused by the cancer itself, the side effects of medication or treatment for the cancer, or both. For example, an employer may have to accommodate an employee who is unable to work while she is undergoing chemotherapy or who has depression as a result of cancer, the treatment for it, or both. An employer, however, has no obligation to monitor an employee's medical treatment or ensure that he is receiving appropriate treatment.
11. What types of reasonable accommodations may employees with cancer need?
Some employees with cancer may need one or more of the following accommodations:
leave for doctors' appointments and/or to seek or recuperate from treatment[11]
periodic breaks or a private area to rest or to take medication
adjustments to a work schedule
Example: An engineer working independently on a long-term project has to undergo radiation for cancer every weekday morning for the next eight weeks. The employer should consider whether it could provide a flexible schedule (e.g., allow him to come in later or work part-time) to accommodate his treatment.
permission to work at home[12]
modification of office temperature
permission to use work telephone to call doctors
reallocation or redistribution of marginal tasks to another employee
Example: A janitor, who had a leg amputated to cure bone cancer, can perform all of his essential job functions without accommodation but has difficulty climbing into the attic to occasionally change the building's air filter. The employer likely can reallocate this marginal function to one of the other janitors.
reassignment to another job
Example: As a result of lymphedema[13] from her mastectomy, a truck driver for a courier service no longer can lift anything heavier than 10 pounds and, therefore, informs her employer that she is unable to do her current job, which requires her to load and unload packages weighing up to 70 pounds. The employer must consider whether a vacant position exists for which the driver is qualified and to which she can be reassigned as a reasonable accommodation, absent undue hardship. The vacant position must be equivalent in terms of pay and status to the original job, or as close as possible if no equivalent position exists. The position need not be a promotion, although the employee should be able to compete for any promotion for which she is eligible. The employer also does not have to "bump" another employee to create a vacancy.
Some employees with cancer may need accommodations other than the ones listed above. The employer, therefore, should discuss with the employee her particular limitations and whether there is anything the employer can do to enable her to work. For example, an employer might explore the possibility of providing certain equipment (e.g., a chair or stool to help with fatigue), a temporary transfer, or changes in how work is performed (e.g., altering when or how a function is done to help with concentration problems).
12. How does an employee with cancer request a reasonable accommodation?
There are no "magic words" that a person has to use when requesting a reasonable accommodation. A person simply has to tell the employer that she needs an adjustment or change at work because of her cancer.
Example: A nurse tells her supervisor that she is having trouble working 12 hours a day because of medical treatments she is undergoing for breast cancer. This is a request for reasonable accommodation.
A request for reasonable accommodation also can come from a family member, friend, health professional, or other representative on behalf of a person with cancer.
13. May an employer request documentation when an employee who has cancer needs a reasonable accommodation?
Yes. An employer may request reasonable documentation where a disability or the need for reasonable accommodation is not obvious. An employer, however, is entitled only to documentation sufficient to establish that the employee's cancer is a disability and that explains why an accommodation is needed. A request for an employee's entire medical record, for example, would be inappropriate, as it likely would include information about conditions other than the employee's cancer.
Example: An employee asks for leave to receive treatment for colon cancer. His oncologist provides a letter indicating that treatment of the condition will require surgery to remove a portion of the large intestines, along with chemotherapy and radiation. The employee will be totally unable to work for the next six months and, even after the cancer has been treated and the employee can return to work, he will have to use a colostomy bag for the rest of his life for waste elimination. The oncologist's letter concludes that, although he hopes the employee will be able to return to a fairly normal life-style following his treatments, he will need to remain under close medical supervision for five years to detect and prevent any recurrence. The doctor's letter is sufficient to demonstrate that the employee has a disability and needs the reasonable accommodation of leave. If, after returning to work, the employee makes a subsequent accommodation request related to his colon cancer and the need for accommodation is not obvious, the employer may ask for documentation (e.g., a doctor's note) demonstrating why the accommodation is needed but may not ask for documentation establishing that the employee's colon cancer is a disability.
14. Does an employer have to grant every request for a reasonable accommodation?
No. An employer does not have to provide an accommodation that would result in "undue hardship." Undue hardship means that providing the reasonable accommodation would result in significant difficulty or expense. However, if a requested accommodation is too difficult or expensive, an employer should determine whether there is another easier or less costly accommodation that would meet the employee's needs.
An employer also is not required to provide the reasonable accommodation that an individual wants but, rather, may choose among reasonable accommodations as long as the chosen accommodation is effective. If more than one accommodation is effective, the employee's preference should be given primary consideration.
15. May an employer be required to provide more than one accommodation for the same employee with cancer?
Yes. The duty to provide a reasonable accommodation is an ongoing one. Although some employees with cancer may require only one reasonable accommodation, others may need more than one. For example, an employee with cancer may require leave for surgery and subsequent recovery but may be able to return to work on a part-time or modified schedule while receiving chemotherapy. An employer must consider each request for a reasonable accommodation and determine whether it would be effective and whether providing it would pose an undue hardship.
16. Is an employer required to remove one or more of a job's essential functions to accommodate an employee with cancer?
No. An employer never has to reallocate essential functions as a reasonable accommodation but can do so if it wishes. In fact, it may be mutually beneficial to the employer and employee to remove an essential function that the employee is unable to do, at least on a temporary basis, because of limitations caused by the cancer, its treatment, and/or side effects.
Example: A doctor becomes too fatigued from cancer treatments to perform surgery, but she still is able to conduct surgical consults and perform her research and teaching duties. Her employer may temporarily remove her from the surgery schedule, rather than placing her on leave, while allowing her to continue performing her other duties.
17. May an employer automatically deny a request for leave from someone with cancer because the employee cannot specify an exact date of return?
No. Granting leave to an employee who is unable to provide a fixed date of return may be a reasonable accommodation. Although many types of cancer can be successfully treated -- and often cured -- the treatment and severity of side effects often are unpredictable and do not permit exact timetables. An employee requesting leave because of cancer, therefore, may be able to provide only an approximate date of return (e.g., "in six to eight weeks," "in about three months"). In such situations, or in situations in which a return date must be postponed because of unforeseen medical developments, employees should stay in regular communication with their employers to inform them of their progress and discuss the need for continued leave beyond what originally was granted. The employer also has the right to require that the employee provide periodic updates on his condition and possible date of return. After receiving these updates, the employer may reevaluate whether continued leave constitutes an undue hardship.
CONCERNS ABOUT SAFETY
When it comes to safety, an employer should be careful not to act on the basis of myths, fears, generalizations, or stereotypes about cancer. Instead, the employer should evaluate each individual on his knowledge, skills, experience, and the extent to which cancer affects his ability to work in a particular job.
18. When may an employer prohibit a person who has cancer from performing a job because of safety concerns?
An employer only may exclude an individual with cancer from a job for safety reasons when the individual poses a direct threat. A "direct threat" is a significant risk of substantial harm to the individual or others that cannot be eliminated or reduced through reasonable accommodation. This determination must be based on objective, factual evidence, including the best recent medical evidence and advances to treat and cure cancer.
In making a direct threat assessment, the employer must evaluate the individual's present ability to safely perform the job. The employer also must consider:
(1) the duration of the risk;
(2) the nature and severity of the potential harm;
(3) the likelihood that the potential harm will occur; and,
(4) the imminence of the potential harm.
The harm must be serious and likely to occur, not remote and speculative. Finally, the employer must determine whether any reasonable accommodation would reduce or eliminate the risk.
Example: A school district may not demote a high school principal, who has been successfully treated for non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, because it fears that the stress of the job may trigger a relapse.
HARASSMENT
The ADA also prohibits harassment based on disability just as other federal laws prohibit harassment based on race, sex, color, national origin, religion, or age. Harassment is actionable under the ADA when a person is subjected to offensive conduct that is sufficiently severe or pervasive to create a hostile or abusive work environment. Employees who believe that they have been harassed because of cancer may file a charge with the EEOC as described below.
LEGAL ENFORCEMENT
Any person who believes that his or her employment rights have been violated on the basis of disability and wants to make a claim against an employer must file a charge of discrimination with the EEOC. A third party also may file a charge on behalf of another person claiming to be aggrieved. For example, a family member or other representative can file a charge on behalf of someone with cancer who may be unable to file a charge. The charge must be filed by mail or in person with the local EEOC office within 180 days from the date of the alleged violation. The 180-day filing deadline is extended to 300 days if a state or local anti-discrimination law also covers the charge.
The EEOC will send the parties a copy of the charge and may ask for responses and supporting information. Before a formal investigation, the EEOC may select the charge for EEOC's mediation program. Both parties must agree to mediation, which may prevent a time-consuming investigation of the charge. Participation in mediation is free, voluntary, and confidential.
If mediation is unsuccessful, the EEOC investigates the charge to determine if there is "reasonable cause" to believe discrimination has occurred. If reasonable cause is found, the EEOC will then try to resolve the charge with the employer. In some cases, where the charge cannot be resolved, the EEOC will file a court action. If the EEOC finds no discrimination, or if an attempt to resolve the charge fails and the EEOC decides not to file suit, it will issue a notice of a "right to sue," which gives the charging party 90 days to file a court action. A charging party also can request a notice of a "right to sue" from the EEOC 180 days after the charge first was filed with the EEOC and may then bring suit within 90 days after receiving the notice. For a detailed description of the process, visit our web site at http://www.eeoc.gov/employees/charge.cfm. For issues relating to federal employment, please refer to our web site at http://www.eeoc.gov/facts/fs-fed.html.
Retaliation
The ADA prohibits retaliation by an employer against someone who opposes discriminatory employment practices, files a charge of employment discrimination, or testifies or participates in any way in an investigation, proceeding, or litigation. Persons who believe that they have been retaliated against may file a charge of retaliation with the EEOC as described above.
http://www.eeoc.gov/facts/cancer.html
Many managers will become sniveling little worms once a letter is sent to either their superior or the human resources mgr which in my experience are quite often females with a chip on their shoulders and usually report directly to the CEO. The nice thing about the chip, is that it is usually part of a maternal instinct which I feel is just what is needed for employees and perhaps, is just the reason why so many women are in that very needed position...
MANY MEN DON'T HAVE THE STOMACH FOR THE BATTLES THESE WOMEN HAVE WON.
Mind you, this info is a bit dated for me since it has been a while since I was around the corp environment so, the HR mgr might be a computer now in Multi-Nationals for all I know lol !
However,The CEO does not liked to be sued and after having a friend of the family sue the I.R.S. on my behalf during a very bad time for me physically while caring for my father, I realized most things come to a 180 once the law is at the door and money is on the line.
Americans need to know they still have rights...
So, currently in our country we still have the right to heal our wounds and while a Basal cell or SCC seems small in comparison to other forms, I believe the thing to remember is that your immune system is off for some reason and that is not good... Quite often due to diet and the constant exposure to toxins not made by nature but with the right nutrients and detoxifiers, one should be able to adjust to the assault and kick the crap out of the mistakes of our past. I found Dr. Lisanti's video sensible so I put it on the site and have started with one NAC pill a day.
If what I think is coming in this country due to the occupy movement and people fed up with being sent home to die by the very experts placed to help them happens... it may not be pretty but many folks may just understand that they must start to protect themselves and their families now that the government will be insisting on and then rationing out health care.
http://www.opencongress.org/articles/list?month=3-2012
EXAMPLE OF HOW A STATE NEEDS TO ACT FIRST
http://wbal.com/article/88171/21/template-story/House-Senate-Approve-Health-Care-Reform-Element-As-Court-Hears-Arguments
There is a much bigger reason why there are so many cheap buffets out there now and if we eat them all the time, we will be creating our own destinies unless enough people understand that humans are NOT mainly carnivores by nature and leave milk for the calves to drink...
http://blog.atmajyoti.org/2008/04/humans-are-we-carnivores-or-vegetarians-by-nature/
Obviously, we all fall back but, it is better to adhere to what is required at least until some of the healing reactions have passed.
Now back to cancer...
AN ASPIRIN A DAY MAY BE FLAWED AND A BIT ANECDOTAL...
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1922647#i
FIND SOME NEWS AND GIVE IT A NUMBER !
This is the reason I feel getting one's immune system is so critical in order to heal yourself.
These guys will find new blotches on their stain samples until the cows come home.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/243426.php
http://www.latimes.com/health/la-he-tumor-attack-20120327,0,4255100.story
Perhaps We Are Missing The Purpose Of Chemo Friends ?????
Chemo Success Stories?
Trumpeted successes in cancer treatment often turn into dismal failures. One of the best-known examples happened in early 1999 when the Mayo Clinic at Rochester declared King Hussein “cancer-free” after extensive chemotherapy treatments for lymphatic cancer. The king returned to Jordan for a victory parade, greeting his people while standing in a luxury convertible. Only a week later the triumph turned into a tragedy when he was rushed back to the Mayo Clinic where suddenly the diagnosis was changed from “cancer-free” to the prognosis of “imminent death” due to multiple organ failure. He died on February 7, less than two weeks later. There can be little doubt the severe damage to his organs was caused by the cancer treatment which included chemotherapy.
Be Well Always,
Bonder
(The Cow Hater)
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bonder
USA
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Posted - 03/27/2012 : 08:18:29
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Tom,
ever hear about Dr. Leonard Coldwell?
Would like your opinion since he has been interviewed with the raw foods advocates...
Boy, if someone told me 20 years ago that I'd be eating the same way those guys with "Don't Murder Cows" t-shirts do, I'd of of told them they need to go back home and see if their mothers found a pornpic inside their pocket protectors !
Sheesh !
Be Well Always,
Bonder |
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bonder
USA
186 Posts |
Posted - 03/30/2012 : 11:07:45
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If permitted, I will tell you why (Americans) at least MUST start to realize that a society run by oligarchs is not in the best interests of the people and while the cohesion may not seem obvious for this forum,
I feel a duty to speak of it.
While it is true that the labor laws do help the disabled, one must consider why??????
It all comes down to money....
If workers have nowhere to go when they become injured or sick, they often times feed off of insurance or the public services.
Take a look sometime at the difference between those who are bagging your groceries or perhaps mopping up the floors of retail establishments late at night. In my neighborhood, they are the ones that look or sound a little "funny" to us...
Many of these people would have formerly lived a less stressful life with public assistance and taken out to exercise, do some rehab or other things offered by skilled consultants.
Some will argue that this helps them to gain some sort of self-esteem rather than living with only their kind of folk and being looked after by professionals. These people were never going to get better, they were permanently disabled.
I was around some of them when I was a kid in the hospitals they sent me to after my allergic reaction to the pills.
I think I have spoken before of my cowboy friend not appreciating wet boots....
Today, they have become tantamount to the English "Serf" of yesteryear.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serfdom
While I was seeing over my father, I was required to deal with the medical oligarchy and their checks and balances.
Having been brought up in a household where municipal attys and judges were common visitors, I became aware of the fact that when one is hurt in a car accident, there is a basic structure of (value) for the injury which is what lawyers send back and forth in their letters until the insurance company looks at their books and finally gives in.
Most lawyers do not want to go to jury trial to leave it up to the hearts of citizens to determine the price.
For the senior citizen, the doctors determine the status of the patient and comply with (for-profit)hospital boards to determine what to do.
Unless they run into a prick like me...
Way too early in my father's illness, it was determined that he had many (mental) issues and so he
(and his government pension medical benefits)would be transferred to one of the largest and most profitable mental hospitals around. As I looked at the paperwork that I insisted on having as my father's P.O.A., I looked at all of the toxic chemicals he was being fed every day and knowing my own sensitivity towards these things, it only made sense that my father might have some of the same low resistance.
Neither he nor I were ever heavy drinkers, not smokers and I must admit, he was in pretty good shape for and old man.
I spoke to the lead clinician over my father's care and was told they would petition the court if I did not agree with them.
That was the worst thing this pompous, pedantic, phony could have said to me from beneath his reading glasses...
An hour later I was on the phone with one of the largest legal families in the state whose son clerked for my dad after law school.
He asked me for some documents and a basic structure of a letter to send, from that moment on, we were represented by them. (Private Practice law) Is much different than Municipal practice and the Law Suit is their bread & butter.
There was no court battle, no expensive and tiresome depositions, the law was clear, my father had made me ( His Being ) for when he was healthy or not and the hospital would only be losing money if they continued to oppose me and the law firm.
The amazing thing is, these were simply documents typed with words and a signature.
Now the problem was,
What to do next ?
Be Well Always,
Bonder
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Starting in the late 1800s The owners of America needed cheap labor and being as though the slavery of people kidnapped from their homeland in Africa was frowned upon after 1865 a large effort was made to allow people from Europe to come to a place where there were "Castles in the sky" and freedom from poverty.
If you and your family could make the journey over the ocean in the giant steel tubes that rocked back and forth and threw you from side to side without broken bones or death, then all you had to do was make it past Ellis Island which was not so much a place to keep out disease but in reality, a laboratory for the Eugenics directors to decide if you were fit to live here.
The Oligarchs did not want your Brother,Sister,Son or Daughter if they would not breed well...
You see, Between the Rothchilds,Rockerfellers,Morgans and Carnegies of the central banks and oil, there was really not much left over for new Americans to start...
I was born in NYC as was my father and his father before him.
My Grandmother was one of the Russian Fiancees that stood before the wall of men looking for their Fiancees whom they had never met but, if given the flower by a man would be married on Ellis soon thereafter.
As a man, the problem was if you brought your children aunt or uncle with you that you swore to protect on the trip and they were afraid, did not understand things or were slow during testing, they quite possibly could be sent back alone to die in
WWI or WWII.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCYsHs481Qs
The one percent that owned America only wanted the finest stock to be let in to do their labor...
Many think that Eugenics stopped before the 1930's but, it has just evolved into a medical money-making industry led by giant drug companies, hospitals and insurance companies that rotate people and their illnesses depending upon the capital needs of those same entities.
Due to the fact that my father knew about some of this as a contract Attorney,he was able to take me away from the children's homes and mental wards where they shifted me from drug to drug due to my "severe emotional issues" that by coincidence occurred shortly after I was given my 1st pill after my head injury.
So, as an adult, even through the cloud of things I learned to adapt to, I remembered that most doctors are egotists in white coats and certainly not gods of medicine...
The funny thing is, when you get your medical label, you start believing that you are a part of the unwanted and start to think those types can be your only friends which can lead you into the same sort of trouble that drug addicts and violent types get into. That changed just as my father thought it would.
When my father became ill,because of my disabilities, if I saw him every day at his place as he was I would be spending more time in emergency wards than with him and living as far as I did was out of the question but,living close was the answer for a while anyway...
There came a point when he could no longer be alone at home and like I said, I would not be able to survive under the same roof as he was regardless of my depth of feelings because it was those very feelings that would cause my end and then who would care about him?
So, the last thing in the world I wanted to happen to my father did happen and that was to allow him under the constant care of the medical system. But before that, there was a nurse in sunny Florida that my seldom seen sister knew of near where she lived that had a large house and cared for the elderly. She had a holistic methodology and all I had to do is to tell her what she needed to act like when my father got too ornery because I knew even through the fog, he would want to protect her from harm.
It seemed like the perfect solution and hey, if I wanted a place to visit, Florida was nice,
Or so I thought...
Be Well Always,
Bonder.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Carnegie
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J.P._Morgan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_D._Rockefeller
“Well first of all, tell me: Is there some society you know that doesn’t run on greed? You think Russia doesn’t run on greed? You think China doesn’t run on greed? What is greed? Of course, none of us are greedy, it’s only the other fellow who’s greedy. The world runs on individuals pursuing their separate interests. The great achievements of civilization have not come from government bureaus. Einstein didn’t construct his theory under order from a bureaucrat. Henry Ford didn’t revolutionize the automobile industry that way. In the only cases in which the masses have escaped from the kind of grinding poverty you’re talking about, the only cases in recorded history, are where they have had capitalism and largely free trade. If you want to know where the masses are worse off, worst off, it’s exactly in the kinds of societies that depart from that. So that the record of history is absolutely crystal clear, that there is no alternative way so far discovered of improving the lot of the ordinary people that can hold a candle to the productive activities that are unleashed by the free-enterprise system.”
#8213; Milton Friedman
SOMETHING TELLS ME MR. FRIEDMAN WAS RIGHT ABOUT THE RUNNING OF COUNTRIES BUT, NOT THE LONGEVITY OF THEM...
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Thomas Haugen
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Posted - 03/31/2012 : 09:09:41
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Bonder, that's a touching story and one that speaks well of your perseverance to keep on keeping on. We are products of our genes and our environment and sometimes it's difficult to tell which is which but regardless, here we are in the present, aware that we are our parents' children and we grew up with all those experiences and all those insults to our health.
Frequently when we read about someone who has overcome cancer the hard way, the person speaks about the importance of forgiveness, not only going back and forgiving all those who have wronged us in the past but also forgiving ourselves for all the wrongs we have done or chances we passed up to do the right thing. I have been practicing on this for some years now but even so, practice does not make perfect in this instance and I have to keep going back repeatedly and doing the forgiving all over again.
One technique that was given to me is to think carefully about the past event and then say very consciously to myself, "that happened. I cannot do anything about that now. I forgive myself." If I'm alone I say that aloud. The mind has a way of believing itself, especially when you're saying something that is so true, so the matter gets put to rest, at least for a while.
Forgiveness is a stress reliever and I'm sure you've read about the stress connection to cancer, but there is also a physical connection in the spine. Something else I learned later in life is that the brain and the spine are all one unit encased in the same sheaf of protective fibers, and memories are stored in the spine as well as in the brain. At least the memory manifests itself in the spine even though it may be stored up in the brain. The spine can become healthier when the stress of bad memories is resolved. In my 40s I was stooped over and already losing height when an amazing coincidence took me to a Network chiropractor. Just by touching me at certain points along the spine she very gradually caused me to unconsciously bring up and let go of the bad memories stored in my spine. It took a couple of years to get to the deepest memories from when I was a small child, and I never did consciously remember those things, just a flood of relief and compassion for myself. At my next physical I had gotten more than an inch taller and I had the nurse remeasure me just to be sure. The muscles around my spine relaxed as those memories released and allowed my spine to take a more normal curvature. Network is the second-best money I ever spent, after the money I bought the license to wed my wife. |
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Posted - 04/01/2012 : 23:48:02
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Tom,
Thanx again for the advice, I'll be sure to add the words to my lifestyle now that some of these healing reactions have passed, the sort of things I truly have not personally experienced for a very long time and I really don't believe in coincidence any longer...
I know a chiropractor that I've not seen for years but, I do not know if he is a (network) type.
As you can imagine from my posts, I am not very fond of what I have found out about parts or our country and if it was just something that occurred back in the 60's I could have written it off to ignorance due to lack of experience but,
These large players know exactly what they are doing and have been doing it for decades upon decades according to what I was told in my younger years and have found out in looking over my father.
I found myself in a quandry some times about the fact that I had the experience of (cheeking) pills when thrown into the white rooms with pads on the walls as a child during my stays in the different wards because even as a youngster, I knew that I was acting uncontrolled and strange. The only answer was the new pills given to me.
This is why, when a older man with true control for years is given medication and starts to act strange (after) the taking of them instead of just weak like beforehand, my experience told me that believing these medical (experts) was a bit ignorant and it was his parkinson's disease I wanted him looked after for not some new behavioral issues only.
I recommend to anyone with family, especially older parents that they get both kinds of P.O.A. documents signed for them now that American health care is going to change severely. Once a patient is within the grips of these drugs, they will be helpless to know what is happening to them at times and then the labeling of behavior issues will start. No doctor has diagnosed me with anything requiring psycho-meds for over 30 years by some coincidence and I have always been the sort not to mess with but, chose more subtle ways of dealing with the aggressiveness of others. If I were on these pills I have looked into over the years, I would have lost the control for decisions just like the blonde pharmaceutical rep on the videos of my website says caused her to quit her career.
So, on the one hand, I hated times of my childhood and the ways it started me to think about myself and others but, after reading the case files few other than government workers had access to when trying to develop a strategy for my father, it was clear to me that I had a true battle to plan for knowing how many doctors deal with those having neuro-issues be they truly mental or not.
Expensive medications sometimes paid for by insurance policies were the main remedies rather than truly looking into the depth of the problems which has created a new sort of (feeble-minded) citizen and the (dumbing down) of society that soon thereafter will cause people to fall ill to the toxic effects of the pills.
With the older people, it speeds up the process of getting them off the books...
When I decided to start with DMSO, after reading about it, I was making quite sure that there were no obvious bad side-effects while still under a bit of a fog periodically because I am used to observing changes in others and myself.
I was on a plane many times over the years because my sister called me and told me that she was tired of dealing with my father and his problems. As luck would have it, she ended up moving awhile after and when I was in Florida, I asked my father several times if he wanted to move back home or stay in the sunshine?
Dad was a piano bar singer in his spare time and liked the idea of having an audience around him in the assisted living place we found for him.
Something I doubt would have been part of his last years in a full-fledged mental hospital under pills designed for those sort of patients.
The only problem was, once again in our lives, the first place in Florida he was in had thieves that knew where his checkbook was and I had to put them in jail and get the bank to make good on their insurance of his funds kept with them.
Americans must understand that the medical community is not full of true philanthropists at many levels and while it is good to have the practitioners in an emergency, it is not so good once one becomes part of the system.
But, the law can stop a great deal of the greed if people are prepared...
Be Well Always,
Bonder
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bonder
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Posted - 04/02/2012 : 11:58:14
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Tom, ever spoken to those that move away from ASC treatments quickly?
WHY VITAMIN C MAY NOT HAVE WORKED FOR EVERYONE...
I thought it a good idea to share a bit why many people might give up on Ascorbic acid therapies etc.
Hyperglycemia has been shown to inhibit ASC transport.
This inhibition seems somewhat paradoxical given the evidence
suggesting that insulin promotes both ASC and dehydroascorbic
acid (DHA) uptake by cells. The inhibition of ASC
uptake by hyperglycemia was demonstrated in vitro in the
absence of insulin and may not, therefore, be important in
normal physiology. But, if a high plasma ASC in IDDM is
uncoupled from insulin replacement then the hyperglycemic
inhibition could have substantial implications for uptake.
Hyperglycemia is also known to enhance renal ASC losses
http://www.jacn.org/content/17/2/105.full.pdf
Many people won't pick up much vitamin C with their current body chemistry and this fellow in this video explains it a bit with low PH which once again speaks for a more alkaline body chemistry to fight any sort of cancer.
He also is a proponent of a (distilled water wash out) to get better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_3lHARRvbM&feature=related
Be Well Always,
Bonder |
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Thomas Haugen
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Posted - 04/02/2012 : 16:40:26
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Bonder, that's interesting information about vitamin C. It cleared up a question I've had about oral vitamin C (not intravenous vitamin C) which is whether a higher concentration of C can be transported into the cells from the plasma.
"Virtually all tissues concentrate ASC at levels well above the plasma ASC concentration."
Just as there are processes that tightly regulate plasma pH between 7.35 and 7.45, another set of processes tightly regulates plasma vitamin C levels below the number 220. Huge doses of C cause diarrhea but if that problem could be overcome so a higher dosage of C could get into the bloodstream, I have been speculating that certain cells including immune system cells might uptake more C into the cells, thereupon using it and also protecting it from the plasma regulatory processes.
Information about liposomal vitamin C. (LVC) Previously mentioned plant phytochemicals such as silymarin and curcumin being almost insoluble and they could be made more bioavailable as liposomes or phytosomes. Also mentioned the chemical piperine, from black pepper, enhances the absorption of various other substances by changing the mechanisms by which cell membranes transport the substances into cells. That’s where liposomal vitamin C comes into play.
My scanty research indicates the touters are claiming LVC passes through the intestines into the bloodstream more easily:
“Increased Absorption - Regular vitamin C is absorbed at approximately 19%, the balance remains in the gastrointestinal tract to attract water and loosen the bowels. Liposomal Vitamin C has superior absorption, providing near IV results with an oral dosage! Which means, you can get incredible amounts into the bloodstream without the risk of diarrhea which can occur before you absorb as little as 1,500 mg into the bloodstream from regular tablets or capsules.”
But more importantly they claim the fatty part of the liposome is more compatible with the cell walls so the LVC passes more easily into each cell, thereby increasing the amount of vitamin C in each cell. Supposedly the immune cells that uptake vitamin C and convert it into peroxides to damage cancer cells would benefit from this process. Since body processes are constantly trying to remove excess vitamin C from plasma and keep it below 220, moving the vitamin C from the plasma into the cells supposedly preserves it from those processes.
I was wondering why people are making their own LVC but then I read: “liposomal versions of anything are ludicrously expensive” and a quick perusal of the market confirms LVC is comparatively big bucks.
Homemade Liposomal C http://www.pdazzler.com/archives/62
Better recipes: http://www.quantumbalancing.com/liposomalC.htm
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bonder
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Posted - 04/04/2012 : 15:03:50
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Tom,
I'd become aware of the Liposomal element from the vid-link I set out earlier here about the family that insisted on vitamin C...
But, after looking into it some more, I decided to put a (Liposome Basics Video Guide) under a news reel for Nanomedicine&Liposomes.
Also this,
http://www.fiercebiotech.com/story/nanomedicine-standout-spotlights-first-human-cancer-data/2012-04-04
The info is just under The Lisanti Lecture Video about the mitochondria and cheap cancer drugs on www.canceramerican.com
The thing is Tom, if Lisanti is correct about being able to predict Cancer regrowth 20 years in advance at diagnosis, then there are two ways this could be used.
I. (The Honest way)whereby a strategy is used to block future metastasis and suffering OR...
II. (The American way) of creating more expensive tests and experts to give Latin names to testing and results that end up back to mustard gases and passing up the obvious fact that more doctors needed increased learning in the area of nutrition decades ago...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mammalian_target_of_rapamycin
Well thankfully,
I guess it is just like you indicated above, now the commonplace can receive Mega-dosing without the needle and make it at home if they have a mind to.
Based upon his analysis,Lisanti thinks the lack of proper antioxidants
in diet is the cause of many issues especially as we age...
Scientists had previously believed that the ability of antioxidants to protect against cancer was mainly due to protecting the DNA of cells from damage. In this new study it was proven that these antioxidants actually worked by preventing cancer cells from replicating.
http://www.wellnessresources.com/health/articles/vitamin_c_and_nac_slow_the_spread_of_cancer/
There is no doubt in my mind that in order to battle with this menace, people need to consider their diet and go beyond the walls of Hospitals and Medical offices in order to win !!
Be Well Always,
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bonder
USA
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Posted - 04/07/2012 : 08:24:30
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Tom,
I put my latest pic at the bottom of the site.
Perhaps you can tell me if you look at this as progress?
(pics getting a bit graphic now).
I have considered the fact that many solvents would burn through human skin however....
I'd appreciate some feedback.
Be Well Always,
Bonder |
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Thomas Haugen
USA
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Posted - 04/07/2012 : 11:12:29
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Bonder, I don't know. Is the raw wound slightly depressed like it appears? If so, that would seem to be a slightly positive indication that cancer cells are being eliminated. There is a technical term I can't remember for the depressed area that is present after the cancer is gone and the wound has completely healed. That is a desirable goal.
Maybe you should look around and find anivoc's photos - maybe some of his lesions would be comparable to yours. Also, he or another man has put up a YouTube that consists of a slideshow of lesions healing. If I remember, black salve search may locate it. |
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Thomas Haugen
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bonder
USA
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Posted - 04/07/2012 : 13:42:26
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LMAO,
I WAS USING THE MUSIC WHILE I RESEARCHED BUT, THE DAMN THING IS A VIDEO-HAVEN NOW SO, I KILLED IT.
THANX.
PICS ARE NOW THE SMALLER CHOICES AVAILABLE WITH THE FREE BLOGGER PROGRAM.
AS I SAID BEFORE, I REALLY DON'T EXPECT A REAL PERMANENT CHANGE UNTIL THE CBII THING OR IF LUCKY, MAYBE CURADERM.
BUT, IN THE MEANTIME, IF YOU START AT THE TOP PIC, YOU CAN SEE A BASICALLY OBLONG AND ROUNDED TUMOR.
AS YOU WORK YOUR WAY DOWN, IT APPEARS TO ME THAT THERE IS TISSUE CHANGE AND A (CAVING IN) IN THE RED AND EXPOSED AREA.
ALSO, SINCE THE NAC, AS A RESULT OR NOT, THERE SEEMS TO BE A (LIFTING) OF THE MASS WHEN YOU COMPARE THE 1ST PIC WITH THE LAST. I REALIZE IT IS A DIFFERENT ANGLE SO, JUST MAYBE TAKE MY WORD FOR IT.
ANVIOC'S PICS WERE THE FIRST EXAMPLE OF ESCHAROTICS I HAD SEEN AND THEY MOSTLY ALL GIVE THE WIDE-REDNESS AND THEN THE ROUND PLUG MASS THAT FALLS OUT OVER TIME. AS THESE ARE A BIT MORE SUPERFICIAL ACCORDING TO STUDY THAN WHAT I HAVE, I DON'T EXPECT THE SAME RESULTS ( ALTHOUGH IT WOULD BE NICE LOL).
IF LISANTI IS RIGHT AND THERE IS AS MUCH OF A REDUCTION IN SIZE RESULTING FROM NAC USE AS FROM HIS EXPERIENCE, PERHAPS I MIGHT GET LUCKY...
RIGHT NOW, ALL I CAN SEE HAPPENING IS MY IMMUNE SYSTEM CLEANING THINGS UP FROM THE INSIDE AND A WHITTLING DOWN OF TISSUE CELLS EITHER FROM MASS DESTRUCTION COMING FROM A SOLVENT MATERIAL OR THE INDEED COMBINING OF THE ASCORBIC WITH DMSO AS A SORT OF DYNAMIC ACCELERATOR.
MY THOUGHT IS THAT IF I CAN GET FAR ENOUGH DOWN WITHIN THE NEXT 30 DAYS AND WHATEVER I AM USING CAN GET INTO THE ROOTS AREA, THAT SAME UNDERNEATH CYLINDER MOST PEOPLE (PUSH OUT) AND TRY TO AVOID (PULLING OUT) TOO EARLY MAY BE THERE INTACT SO THAT IT CAN BE EITHER LIFTED OR WEAKENED AND THEN PASSED THROUGH MY SYSTEM.
AFTER READING ABOUT GREGG CATTON, I JUST DO NOT KNOW WHAT TO THINK ABOUT BLOODROOT AND ZINC CHLORIDE.
I NEED TO FIGURE OUT IF DR. CHAM THINKS CURADERM WON'T WORK FOR (ALL) SPOTS WITH SURGERY BEFOREHAND OR JUST THOSE THAT HAVE DISTURBED THE SUB-DERMAL AREA. I MEAN, IF ALL THE CAVEMEN DID WAS SHAVE OFF THE TOP, PERHAPS THE UNDERNEATH AREA IS STILL INTACT AND MIGHT NOT HAVE LEAKED ALL OVER?
SO, WHO KNOWS?
I PUT BOIK'S THINGS FURTHER UP ON THE SITE NOW THAT I'M ACTUALLY REMEMBERING WHO WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN MY EFFORTS.
HERE IS A REVIEW FOR THE BOOK ON CANCERAMERICAN.COM ONE CAN JUST DONATE TO AND GET...
This review is from: Natural Compounds in Cancer Therapy: Promising Nontoxic Antitumor Agents From Plants & Other Natural Sources (Paperback)
This book is one of the best books I have ever read, on any subject. In my opinion, this book is an absolute MUST for all cancer patients and their advocates. Every doctor should read this book, as well as every cancer research scientist.
I first began researching natural substances and their effect on cancer about four years ago, when my then 22-year-old brother was first diagnosed with a cancerous brain tumor. What I quickly learned was that the vast majority of people disseminating information on the subject were complete phonies, out to charge cancer patients outrageous prices for supplements that were unlikely to do them any good. Of the small percentage who actually seemed genuine, very few of these seemed to have an extensive knowledge of the subject, and fewer still were aware (or even concerned) of the science behind their recommendations. Of those who did seem to know the subject well, John Boik clearly stood out. It would not be an understatement to say that John Boik knows 1000X more about this subject than anyone else on the planet. Unlike most who have written on this subject, Boik does not take an “us against them” attitude regarding alternative vs. conventional medicine. Some of the most exciting research presented in his book actually comes from combining natural compounds with conventional chemotherapy. And, John Boik does NOT sell supplements or treatments of any kind. This alone scored him many points in my book.
Boik really takes it to the next level with this new book. Where his first book discussed several hundred compounds, this new book narrows the focus down to the 38 compounds he believes to have the most potential for benefit in cancer treatment. Nearly all of these 38 compounds are available commercially, and many are quite inexpensive. No claims are made whatsoever; Boik clearly states that much more research is needed throughout the book. However, in this reviewer’s mind, any cancer patient wanting to try alternative treatment in combination with conventional would be very wise to use a combination of natural compounds from this book. The science behind doing so is far, far greater than any alternative treatment out there.
Boik’s general premise throughout the book is that cancer should be attacked from every possible angle. According to Boik, there are seven procancer events that should be targeted. These seven events are: induction of genetic instability, abnormal expression of genes, abnormal signal transduction, abnormal cell-to-cell communication, induction of angiogenesis, invasion and metastasis, and immune evasion. Each of these presents a potential target for treatment. Boik’s theory states that all seven should be targeted. This is usually not done with conventional therapies. Conventional treatment generally targets only one of these events. It may be possible to effectively target all seven events with a combination of natural compounds.
This book is divided into three parts. Parts one and two examine cancer at the cellular level, and cancer at the level of the organism, respectively. After reading parts one and two, the reader will come away with a far greater understanding of what cancer is, how it comes to be, how solid tumors are formed, etc. This gives the patient and their advocates a far better understanding of what exactly this illness is they are dealing with. For medical professionals and scientists, this will likely be easy material, but well worth reading. For the layperson, parts one and two will be more challenging. I would guess that the more science one has had in school, the greater their understanding and enjoyment of parts one and two. However, even readers such as myself who have had no science beyond basic high school courses will get a lot out of these two sections, and come away with a much greater understanding of cancer. I simply skimmed areas that were “over my head” and digested areas that were clear to me. I came away having learned a lot from these two sections.
Part three is the most enjoyable, exciting part of the book in my opinion. This is the section that discusses in detail the 38 compounds most likely to have a positive effect on cancer. Part three opens with my favorite chapter in the book. This chapter discusses the exciting possibilities of synergistic interactions between natural compounds, and designing combinations of natural compounds. It also discusses how tentative doses are arrived at. The remaining chapters discuss each of the 38 most promising compounds in depth. Supporting research is presented for each and referenced at the end of each chapter. If any negative studies exist for a particular compound, these are presented as well. This book is incredibly well referenced, so anyone wanting to read abstracts or the actual studies will be able to, as most can be found on MEDLINE. The final chapter of the book discusses natural compounds and their effect on chemotherapy and radiotherapy. This is a very important subject.
Many of the compounds could cause chemotherapy and / or radiation to be more effective, and some have solid evidence supporting their use. Others have the possibility of protecting cancer from the effects of chemotherapy and radiation. These are both discussed in detail in the final chapter. The vast appendices contain supplemental information for various chapters, chemical structure diagrams for the 38 and other compounds, and information regarding dose calculations and predictive models, topics most intended for medical professionals and scientists.
This book is the BIBLE on the subject of how natural substances effect cancer. I strongly recommend this book to all cancer patients considering any form of alternative treatment and to their advocates as well. I predict that combinations of compounds discussed in this book will prove to be so useful, that even the medical establishment will embrace their use and these combinations will no longer be looked at as “alternative” treatments.
I cannot stress the importance of this book enough. If you, a friend or loved one has cancer, you should not be without this book.
Note: while I haven't checked in on him lately, he had an informative website last time I checked. It was this book that allowed me to make a picture out of the puzzle that one is faced with when first diagnosed.
Love, hope, success, health and joy to us all!
Claudia
HERE IS HIS 501 NON PROFIT
http://www.newearthbiomed.org
I AM CONSIDERING BECOMING INVOLVED... WOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
EMMA IS WEARING OUT HER LIPS AND SHE IS ONLY MY READING VOICE DROID....
direct-acting compounds
http://www.jbc.org/content/285/45/34557.full
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=+direct-acting+compounds%2BCANCER&oq=+direct-acting+compounds%2BCANCER&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=hp.3...444l3659l4l5744l6l6l0l0l0l0l116l604l3j3l6l0.frgbld.&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=3226d37ade666d03&biw=1230&bih=558
Synergistic Apoptosis Induced by Combination of Luteolin and EGCG
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=combination+of+luteolin+and+EGCG&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart&sa=X&ei=_vCAT-3HEoGhtwfv3IHLDw&sqi=2&ved=0CCcQgQMwAA
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1749-6632.2011.06104.x/full
I WONDER IF DAN THINKS IT IS OK THAT I HAVE A BANNER OF THIS SITE ON MY SITE? I HOPE SO.
BLOGGER IS WELL VISITED AND IT HAS MADE IT A HECKUVA LOT EASIER FOR ME TO KEEP THINGS IN ORDER AS I BATTLE THIS MENACE....
BE WELL ALWAYS,
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bonder
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bonder
USA
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Posted - 04/10/2012 : 15:08:28
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Tom,
After running into the word "ALKALINE" in my research like mosquitoes at an evening softball game,
I've changed my external protocol to sodium bicarbonate and carrier for the total tumor now that I have opened a large cavity in the epidermis.
Also, my plan is to keep my pH in the 7's for sure while continuing the juicing along with Niacin and Potassium supplements.
I am a believer in removing scabs for open wounds but this time it is more in order to have an expanding access point for liquid treatments that is degrading tumor height and width in order to reach the root.
"It's best to remove loose skin or scabs as these delay the healing process and harbor infection."
Dr. George D. Winter's wound care study showed that the regrowth of skin over a wound (epithelialization) was twice as fast in those wounds covered with a film dressing. His wound care case study showed that wounds that were kept moist healed in approximately 12 to 15 days while the same wound when exposed to the air healed in about 25 to 30 days.
http://www.squidoo.com/heal-open-wounds-faster
But,the problem I have bouncing around in my head is,I don't want this tumor tissue to (heal) I want it to (die)!
So, while I continue to moisten then pull the scab in the morning and cleanse with saline, the idea of covering it (even if I could without some sort of adhesive) makes me feel that the air and mother nature especially the sun are not getting their fair shot that way right?
I mean, it is one thing to have a wound just a bit below the surface and want it to regrow upwards and then blend but, during these initial stages I feel like standard regrowth is the last thing in the sequence I want to accomplish until I am down far enough to kill via the fibroblasts etc near the root.
I realize I am signaling things to heal better from the change in diet inside but, it is also part of the plan to kill cancer cells from the outside with alkalinity...
What do you think?
Be Well Always,
Bonder
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Thomas Haugen
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Posted - 04/10/2012 : 15:57:56
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Bonder, I'm not sure about the sodium bicarbonate. I've read in various places that topically it will get cancer cells above pH of 8 and kill them. The body has these mechanisms to tightly regulate pH but I'm not sure if they function down at the cellular level, meaning they might interfere or cancel out the higher pH. Also, plasma or other fluid oozing out the wound could carry the bicarb away from the cancer cells. If none of that hinders your plan, then I hope you have good luck if you decide to try it.
My scab has gotten noticeably smaller lately. I pull it off and re-treat whenever it gets soft from washing, or about every other day otherwise. I leave it uncovered at all times, except when I have to use makeup. If and when the skin completely grows back and closes the wound, I guess I'll continue to use a penetrating topical for a while after that.
About the saline you use for cleansing, do you feel it is chemically killing surface cells? You know, like salt in a wound? I have no idea whether that would be good or bad.
With a lesion as large as yours, it doesn't seem like a good idea to let it heal over, even if it would. As I understand it, in almost every instance of treating these cancers, the healing may proceed excruciatingly slowly, but it should proceed sort of similar to any other wound or burn, where new skin seems to appear around the perimeter and gradually develops closer and closer to the center. That is what is happening with my biggest BCC.
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