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robbiethegood

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Posted - 08/11/2011 :  14:25:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi all,

Iodine (Lugol's, 7%) has appeared to work somewhat for me with a cancer I have had on my forehead. It's difficult to know if it's gone permanently, it still ocasionally feels tingly or itchy but only slightly. I used the Lugol's for several months. After a while it healed over leaving a dint in the skin.

It hurt a bit and was a bit ugly at the destruction stages but hey, what would the doctors have done but put a huge hole in my face and almost certainly cut a nerve and disfigured me I was warned. I'm only just forty and I'm an actor and performing musician. It matters a lot.

I'm not entirely sure whether there is some cancer left growing beneath the skin, or some bad cells left in the dint where it was, though it's not looking bad at the moment.

I've acquired some Curaderm BEC5 and another restorative cream, but I'm careful about using them as they seem not designed to be applied on normal skin to reach anything underneath. If anyone knows anything to the contrary, please correct me.

Does anyone know where I can buy the Cesium Carbonate recommended by some, to dissolve in water and apply to hopefully knock out any remaining bad cells?

I've heard of the Petty Spurge cure too - Where do I get that? I don't know how to recognise the plant or prepare the treatment myself.

(Sorry this is a partial repost of my entry in the Iodine sticky thread, but I want as many as possible to read this so I might get the right advice.)

Edited by - robbiethegood on 08/11/2011 14:27:21

waverider

75 Posts

Posted - 08/12/2011 :  16:13:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As of now, there's no commercial preparation on the market that contains petty spurge. Your only option is to order the seeds and "grow your own." They are only available from this source in Australia.
http://www.beautanicals.com.au/Petty%20spurge.html

A number of people hereabouts incl. me have researched looking for a domestic US source for PS seeds but haven't found one. So you've got to go down under. But it only takes about two weeks to receive them.

The good news is that we are drawing close to the petty spurge growing season outdoors, which is roughly September or Oct thru May if you are in N. America. PS is a winter annual and won't survive the summer outdoors.


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mineralguy

1 Posts

Posted - 09/16/2011 :  15:08:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When I visited the Nile back in 2003 I got to see this gracious plant growing in its natural habitat. As far as cesium goes, well the liquid kind (cesium chloride) can be found online at Florida Herb House.
http://www.floridaherbhouse.com/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=cesium&x=0&y=0
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gbp

New Zealand
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Posted - 01/17/2012 :  03:06:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I can supply 1/4 Dram (1ml.)bottles of pure Euphorbia Peplus sap on a limited but ongoing basis.
1/4 dram (0.93 ml or 18-25 drops).
Enough to treat 3 cancers. 1 drop on each carcinoma for 6 consecutive days.
Please contact me for details.

Edited by - gbp on 01/22/2012 15:44:19
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marsha

USA
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Posted - 01/17/2012 :  14:13:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The petty spurge in northen ca. grows all year long. In fact I just looked outside and there's still a bunch of seeds around the bottom of my plant.
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Thomas Haugen

USA
94 Posts

Posted - 01/23/2012 :  13:32:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by marsha

The petty spurge in northen ca. grows all year long. In fact I just looked outside and there's still a bunch of seeds around the bottom of my plant.



Marsha, people in USA are seeking seeds and sap. Want to help us out?

Tom
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shahmukesh2007

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Posted - 05/03/2012 :  22:57:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by gbp

I can supply 1/4 Dram (1ml.)bottles of pure Euphorbia Peplus sap on a limited but ongoing basis.
1/4 dram (0.93 ml or 18-25 drops).
Enough to treat 3 cancers. 1 drop on each carcinoma for 6 consecutive days.
Please contact me for details.

i need it reply me soon Dr mukesh shah india
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Thomas Haugen

USA
94 Posts

Posted - 07/23/2015 :  19:36:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I now have petty spurge seeds for anyone in USA needing them. Plants do not seem to ship well.
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timmygyu

4 Posts

Posted - 08/03/2015 :  11:59:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Thomas Haugen

I now have petty spurge seeds for anyone in USA needing them. Plants do not seem to ship well.



Would be interested in some of your seeds. Are they from plants you grew yourself?

I bought some seed from the Australian source mentioned in the forum, but have had trouble growing the plants to seed stage. I am growing for the sap, would like to be able to sustain my own supply.
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Thomas Haugen

USA
94 Posts

Posted - 08/03/2015 :  16:26:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My seeds are from weeds in my yard. This year's crop of seeds should be ready soon. The plants are full-grown but still green and the seed heads are developing. When the plants start to dry out and lose their green, the seeds mature and get ready to pop off. Last year I harvested and sowed all the seeds so I have plenty of plants this year (2015). I send dried plants with seeds attached - you pull off the seeds and sow. In my experience they take forever to sprout and then they don't like to be transplanted.
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Thomas Haugen

USA
94 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2015 :  16:47:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The seeds are free, just email me through this forum and I'll email you my address. Then send me a padded SASE and I'll mail you the seeds, probably some time later in August. Can't hurry Nature.
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timmygyu

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Posted - 08/07/2015 :  19:39:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Thomas Haugen

The seeds are free, just email me through this forum and I'll email you my address. Then send me a padded SASE and I'll mail you the seeds, probably some time later in August. Can't hurry Nature.



Thanks for the offer; I will certainly do that. I sent you a mail a few days ago with my contact info; did you get it?
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luvhikn

USA
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Posted - 11/10/2015 :  13:51:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by marsha

The petty spurge in northen ca. grows all year long. In fact I just looked outside and there's still a bunch of seeds around the bottom of my plant.


OK, I think I am catching on on how to post, so I will try again!
Marsha, I am in N. CA right now. If you have plants right now, could I come and get some, or could they be mailed?
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Thomas Haugen

USA
94 Posts

Posted - 01/01/2016 :  18:45:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry to be such a slug, will try to send seeds to those who requested soon.
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mark72

USA
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Posted - 01/02/2016 :  08:31:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi robbiethegood,

I had a reddish spot on my right upper forehead, looks like a mosquito bite that refuses to go. I thought could be a rash, or eczema. I first treated with minced garlic, with a fine grate, just giving a thin coat with the finger. It turned more reddish and after some application faded away. But it come back and started to create a scab that after some treatments with garlic went off.
Later I used Iodine based on The Dr. Simoncini formula:
7 grams iodine
5 grams potassium iodide
50 mls distilled water
Alcohol 96% to reach 100 mls
Was a challenge to find pure IODINE, Potassium Iodine and surprisingly the Ethanol
96% too. Using a $20 Digital Electronic weigh I prepared the solution. I have a BS in Chemistry.
After some applications with Iodine a scab was created and after fell out, but the reddish spot came back again.
I tried Pure D-Limonene and 4% Ammonia solution that creates a burning sensation but not much help. (one roll of d-limonene and another roll with ammonia via a Q-Tip).
It is a good indicator for Skin Cancer spots.
L-Ascorbic Acid + DMSO is a good alternative, but I started another alternative based on Scientific Research data REPORTS.
So I decided to see a specialist, (For a Biopsy), that might be a mistake. My doctor was overseas for a symposium; they suggested a nurse to take care of me. I refused, after a female Dermatologist took care of me. She found 7 more spots on my face and neck; they were so tiny, without any distinguished color, just rough skin. She burned with liquid nitrogen, and got a biopsy on my forehead. It turned to be a Squamous Cell Carcinoma in situ.
A quick search on line gave me Bad News:
“Squamous cell carcinomas detected at an early stage and removed promptly are almost always curable and cause minimal damage. However, left untreated, they eventually penetrate the underlying tissues and can become disfiguring. A small percentage even metastasize to local lymph nodes, distant tissues, and organs and can become fatal.” Treatment Options Are:
Mohs Micrographic surgery, with the highest overall cure rate — about 94-99 percent
Excisional Surgery -The physician uses a scalpel to remove the entire growth, along with a surrounding border of apparently normal skin as a safety margin. The wound around the surgical site is then closed with sutures (stitches).
The accepted cure rate for primary tumors with this technique is about 92 percent. This rate drops to 77 percent for recurrent squamous cell carcinomas.
Curettage and Electrodesiccaton (Electro Surgey)
This technique is usually reserved for small lesions. The growth is scraped off with a curette (an instrument with a sharp, ring-shaped tip), and burning heat produced by an electrocautery needle destroys residual tumor and controls bleeding. This procedure is typically repeated a few times, a deeper layer of tissue being scraped and burned each time to help ensure that no tumor cells remain.
Cryosurgery - The physician destroys the tumor tissue by freezing it with liquid nitrogen, using a cotton-tipped applicator or spray device
Radiation -X-ray beams are directed at the tumor, with no need for cutting or anesthesia. Destruction of the tumor usually requires a series of treatments, administered several times a week for one to four weeks, or sometimes daily for one month. Cure rates range widely, from about 85 to 95 percent, since the technique does not provide precise control in identifying and removing residual cancer cells at the margins of the tumor.
Photodynamic Therapy (PDT)- PDT can be especially useful for growths on the face and scalp. A chemical agent that reacts to light, such as topical 5-aminolevulinic acid (5-ALA) or methyl aminolevulinate (MAL), is applied to the growths at the physician's office; it is taken up by the abnormal cells. Hours later, those medicated areas are activated by a strong light. The treatment selectively destroys squamous cell carcinomas while causing minimal damage to surrounding normal tissue. However, the treatment is not yet FDA-approved for squamous cell carcinoma, and while it may be effective with early, noninvasive tumors (e.g., Bowen’s disease), overall recurrence rates vary considerably (from 0 to 52 percent), so the technique is not currently recommended for invasive SCC.
Laser Surgery - This therapy is not yet FDA-approved for SCC, though it can be used for superficial lesions, with recurrence rates similar to those of PDT.
Topical Medication - 5-fluorouracil (5-FU) and imiquimod, both FDA-approved for treatment of actinic keratoses and superficial basal cell carcinomas, are also being tested for the treatment of some superficial squamous cell carcinomas. Successful treatment of Bowen's disease, a noninvasive SCC, has been reported. However, invasive SCC should not be treated with 5-FU.
NOT TO BE IGNORED
Squamous cell carcinomas usually remain confined to the epidermis (the top skin layer) for some time. However, the larger these tumors grow, the more extensive the treatment needed. They eventually penetrate the underlying tissues, which can lead to major disfigurement, sometimes even the loss of a nose, eye or ear. A small percentage spread (metastasize) to distant tissues and organs. When this happens, squamous cell carcinomas frequently can be life-threatening.
Armed with the Information I called the female Dermatologist for farther treatment, and she answered better wait and go to my Doctor that is a very good and experienced dermatologist.
The day the treatment happened, the wound was healed letting a depression at biopsy area.
The treatment was Curettage without Electrodesiccaton, and was hard to find the cancer-affected borders, so the dermatologist was guessing. The worse he couldn’t go deep to the biopsy area so an Island was created in the middle of the wound. The healing took more than a month and under the a scare of the biopsy a bump start growing, it was visible and I was filling the pressure as it was growing up Day by day.
It was clear that the treatment went wrong.
I took things on my hands and after I year, there isn’t anything left on the treated area, and a check up visit at the same dermatologist confirmed the affected area Cancer Free. The dermatologist was surprised; he wonders how the scar was disappeared. I told him “my compliments Doctor, thank You”, but my primary Physician 4 months early, during a routine wellness check, noticed a cotton swab on my forehead, hold in place with 2 Micropore Surgical Tape by 3M Healthcare, ½” wide (I cut in two a 1” wide tape) creating narrow strips. With my permission he removed the swab, and what he sow was the epidermis gone, while treatment was searching, finding and destroying any cancer cell, using a carrier and a cancer killer medicine. The wound was open, read meat, no infection at all, (this goes like that until the immune system decide to regenerate filling the wound with new healthy cells and recover without any scar), and he put it back and whispered Interesting, very Interesting.
I win but it took me a very strict regimen to fight Teeth and Nail with Squamous carcinoma in all fronts. Topically, internally, physically and psychologically.
I was lucky that I retired and I found the time to go through a very complex and strict REGIMEN.

Edited by - mark72 on 01/03/2016 13:40:30
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Arreb

USA
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Posted - 02/25/2017 :  18:30:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would like some seed if possible.
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