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Barbara Posted - 07/14/2008 : 12:11:00
Has anyone had success with Curaderm? I want to order it but do not want to spend over 100- if it doesn't really work -thanks in advance
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fRomance Posted - 12/17/2020 : 06:01:00
It worked great for me, surely it will work for you too!
radiourban Posted - 09/30/2020 : 01:23:12
Dougrun, good thing to know that you are a satisfied user. Hope it works for me too.
Dougrun Posted - 09/17/2020 : 20:53:39
started treating a spot above the previous one with curaderm. working as expected. very satisfied with the previous treatment.
fRomance Posted - 04/20/2020 : 14:58:44
Curaderm's efficacy is unproven and their content is unregulated.
fRomance Posted - 04/20/2020 : 14:58:18
Curaderm's efficacy is unproven and their content is unregulated.
fRomance Posted - 04/20/2020 : 14:58:11
Curaderm's efficacy is unproven and their content is unregulated.
fRomance Posted - 04/20/2020 : 14:58:03
Curaderm's efficacy is unproven and their content is unregulated.
fRomance Posted - 03/23/2020 : 02:58:19
This is a wonderful story, very inspiring. Thank you!
fRomance Posted - 03/23/2020 : 02:58:08
This is a wonderful story, very inspiring. Thank you!
radiourban Posted - 03/23/2020 : 02:53:29
This is a wonderful story, very inspiring. Thank you!
radiourban Posted - 03/23/2020 : 02:53:14
This is a wonderful story, very inspiring. Thank you!
radiourban Posted - 03/23/2020 : 02:53:10
This is a wonderful story, very inspiring. Thank you!
radiourban Posted - 03/23/2020 : 02:53:00
This is a wonderful story, very inspiring. Thank you!
fRomance Posted - 03/11/2020 : 22:37:05
Thank you for sharing it's very helpful.
anivoc Posted - 03/11/2020 : 21:28:41
BTW Spirogirl you mentioned the anomaly basosquamous ...How frustrating that is...it is a hybrid and it is different from Basal and squamous and generally more aggressive than both..3 different doctors and one told me he thought the pathologist was incorrect that what I had was probably a baso squamous...when I asked the COH radiation oncologist why they called it just a squamous he said they don't use that term because they just treat as if it were squamous which they take more seriously and go more aggressively at...Problem is if it is a basosquamous statistically it is more aggressive than just squamous and needs to be treated as such..
Which leads me to another fly in the ointment of giving these tumors names...Turns out the are many iterations of each and depending on YOUR DNA and the tumors DNA results and ways to go about treating may vary greatly....GREAT!
anivoc Posted - 03/11/2020 : 21:12:27
Congrats on fighting for yourself and not accepting the status quo ..It is really frustrating how doctors of different types and specialties don't advise the other options that many times they are very aware of because they might not get the job....sad

Glad in your case things have gone well!

It is a shame that radiation is not touted more ....especially when it is an area that can mess with your quality of life or your looks...


Had I not gone to City of hope in my case it is highly unlikely I would have known or been given the option for radiation.

When I met with the oncological surgeon there he explained that he will cut half of my ear off.."I'll get used to it"..."people lose an arm and think it's the end of the world ...a year later there living life normal...people adapt..." Yep he really told me that...fortunately the dermatologist there ( who I saw after I saw him) said hold on ...there are other options...enter radiation...I met with the radiation oncologist who said no problem we can take care of that and this one and this one......Gotta say I like having a whole ear...that said radiation on my other tumors was not a fun thing but all the basal's seem to be knocked out and the one over my left eye was huge...It's been 15 months and I still have a radiation ulcer there that is slowly getting smaller. All the other basals healed up /shrunk to nothing. Sadly the squamous one on my cheek which almost got got with radiation ( shrunk down to the size of half an M&M from a huge bigger than a half dollar 1/2" thick beast) came back with a vengeance and has left me with a huge scar and a face that is semi paralyzed ( might come back but it's looking less and less likely)

Radiation is definitely an option for small tumors in difficult to treat areas...There is also Brachytherapy which is a different more precise and less invasive way of applying radiation to a specific tumor or area...

COH used tomographic and proton on me...My radiation oncologist at COH felt Brachy was not as good...conversely when I met with the folks at UCLA this year to see if Brachy might be a option for the out of control squamous I was told differently and that Brachy has advanced greatly and it would have been there first line of attack ...Unfortunately with all the radiation I received in my first journey with mask and 35 rounds the long term damage to my tissue in the treated areas could not sustain more radiation and I would have wounds that would never heal...

That's one of the devil in the details that they don't really discuss..radiation messes up your skins healing capabilities forever..but it kills the cancer

I wanted them to do MOHS on my Cheek tumor second time around but was told no...because with Mohs and squamous they would want to radiate afterwards..because I had already been radiated they felt it would be too risky and that instead they needed to go much deeper and further requiring an oncological surgeon and skin grafts...lovely

I've shared my surgery story elsewhere here so I won't repeat but just a few more FYI's on the radiation route and the caveats that come with it....
I temporarily lost the sense of taste...this went on from about 2 weeks into the treatment to @ 1 month after...eating was not fun..I have fully recovered my taste.
Dry mouth...wow that really sucked and even now 15 months later I am only @ 70% ...still wake up at night with the mojave desert in my mouth.
I permanently lost my beard completely on the left side of my face.
I permanently lost a lot of my head hair where they zapped me.
The radiation zapped my jaw so bad I can still only partially open my mouth...barely 1 1/2" so eating sandwiches, fruits and such is a PITA.

So final thoughts...

Radiation is a great option for certain things like your ears, eye lids etc. It may cause cataracts, it may effect you hearing but if you lose an eye lid they have to take your eye...YIKES

Based on my experience if I had a squamous I would have them do Mohs and then radiate rather than what I ended up having to go through..

With regards to which type of radiation there are several and it just depends on where you go and what that particular doctor or clinic knows and understands..Each sit on their mountain with the wisdom they have collected and must feel confident they are doing the right thing..( they need to sleep at night ) I get it and forgive it but we as the patient and sometimes victim must be our own advocate and do our own diligence or just go blindly in faith , that the roll of a dice, that the doctor or clinic you chose was the best choice...

Certainly in my case in retrospect knowing what I know now I would have gone different routes than the ones I chose and or accepted but I take full responsibility for my choices..They all did their best as they understood or believed.

To understand what types of radiation are available go here https://www.cancer.org/treatment/treatments-and-side-effects/treatment-types/radiation/external-beam-radiation-therapy.html

I had tomographic (mask) on everything but the ear which I had proton radiation on...

Being of Medicare age and with a supplemental insurance that is golden I can pretty much go anywhere now and they fall over themselves to see me..Money doesn't talk it swears ( Bob Dylan) I just looked at a bill from my dermatologist at COH for removing the two lesions on my neck for testing ....total time spent talking and removing was at most 30 minutes...5 minutes at most to take the biopsies..needle with numbing solution zap zap bandage done....She Billed $4000 for 5 minutes of work...that does not include the lab work ...$4K just to snip two lesions for biopsy...So much for a non profit hospital...sheesh!

So in my last surgery I used a very well known plastic surgeon who has 70,000 surgeries under his belt. Boy is he ringing the bell. It's like a skin cancer buffet every day for him..I bet he see's at least 30 people a day and pulls off at least 15 to 20 excisions. I can probably safely say he never recommends radiation as a first line approach though when they have aggressive squamous like me he will recommend after he does his thing...As I sat in the waiting room I watched an endless line of mostly old farts like me march in and out with parts of their face missing . Half or partial ears, many noses with bandages covering them...crazy and said to myself...what a wonderful world...ok not really ..I said to myself how sad as I sit there with all of my ear...if they'd only known there was other options.... Whew I'm windy...but passionate about trying to help people be more informed on how to deal with skin cancers.
Spirogirl Posted - 03/10/2020 : 13:25:43
Hi all- I wanted to give an update on my situation. I had a huge nasty gbasosquamoush carcinoma on my upper lip along the edge. Once I got the biopsy and was told Mohs was my only option I tried all of the home remedies, ACV, straight eggplant juice concentrate, baking soda, castor oil, Rick Simpson oilc the WORKS. I saw 4 (Yes, FOUR) dermatologists that all told me Mohs was the only way. But I did my own research (Thanks, TopicalInfo.org) and while continuing with the DIY, I found out about superficial radiation. It sounds scary but it is non-invasive and painless, and has equal success rates to Mohs. I tried every dermatologist in town that had an SRT machine, but none accepted my insurance. So, pigheaded as I am, I went directly to a radiation oncology doctor. He said that he could absolutely treat me, and that he treats skin cancers often! I asked why all the derms said no, and he said that derms arenft fully trained in radiology and that they prefer to do Mohs themselves than refer people out. I refuse to let them take a melon baller to my face. Radiotherapy is especially good for facial cancers on eyelids, lips, noses and ears that would be cosmetically disfiguring. SO I finally got approved to do it, and was covered by insurance.
Over the holidays I stopped all of my DIY treatments while waiting to start radiation. Well let me tell you they were definitely doing something because the tumor got HUGE while I wasnft treating it. But the topicals weren't enough to get rid of it completely either.
Now for the good news: I am nearly through my radiation treatments (Ifve had 25 out of 30) and my skin cancer is just shrinking away like a miracle. Itfs completely painless and I go in for a five minute appointment each weekday for 6 weeks. I am in no pain or discomfort whatsoever, and am really really happy. I just wanted to share this for those of you like me who are afraid of the knife. Superficial radiation therapy is really incredible. Ifm so glad I stuck to my guns. Keep doing the eggplant even if itfs not going away- just to keep it from getting even bigger faster until you find the right treatment plan for you. Check out SRT on youtube to learn more. Ifm so glad I did.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueiZwUlRPpY
dan Posted - 09/21/2019 : 12:21:24
Hi Spirogirl,

Welcome! It looks like Curaderm is working, so that is great. Thanks also for sharing what didn't work for you. It makes sense to keep going with what works.

I would still keep searching for other effective treatments because in my experience relying on combo treatments tends to work better in the long run than a single treatment approach. Actually, there is a chance that you may have already done this with the other treatments you tried before Curaderm, setting the stage for success. And if you find something else that works too, your chances of permanent success increase a lot.

Here are a couple of other things to also consider trying. The first is iodine (Lugol's or nascent) orally perhaps using simultaneously with Curaderm. Iodine will help to raise pH. https://www.drbrownstein.com/iodine-why-you-need-it-p/iodine.htm There is a large iodine thread here too http://www.topicalinfo.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=409

I also like mixing in other topical treatments. Topical household ammonia or a baking soda paste raises the pH of skin for several hours which fights the acidic metabolism of cancer cells. You can try adding aloe vera and pancreatin topically. I consider circulating pancreatic enzymes to be the body's main defense against cancers, which is why intermittent fasting is a good idea for freeing up the enzymes from digestive tasks to cancer fighting tasks. Pancreatic enzymes work best at a pH near 9 so they are helped by the ammonia or baking soda paste.

Another idea to consider trying is using orange oil (d-limonene) topically. Orange oil penetrates skin well, provides a stinging sensation (lasts for 25 minutes) that gives information on the extent of the cancer remaining, and has lots of anticancer properties with studies supporting it. https://www.mskcc.org/cancer-care/integrative-medicine/herbs/d-limonene
Spirogirl Posted - 09/20/2019 : 22:59:54
Hi everybody. I'm new to this forum. I've read everything on here but having trouble finding advice on the treatment of my upper lip. I have a BCC along the vermillion line in the center. I have tried the homemade eggplant and vinegar treatment, Castor oil, and Frankincense oil, but no improvement. I started curaderm three weeks ago, applied for 2 weeks, and then had to take a week break to let it calm down because it was so painful and deep. It is an open deep lesion, a "rat bite" hole and the curaderm is definitely eating away the nodular spots most aggressively. I started again a few days ago and it went right back to work. The cream is so thick it's hard to fill up the hole, so I have been mixing with a few drops of water to smear it in there. After restarting, it hurts less but still burns.
I figure that the Mohs surgeon would cut away most of my upper lip and so anything that curaderm eats away would have been cut out anyway. It will be my last resort- but if I can kick this thing with the curaderm and keep my lip, that would be really great.
Has anyone else used curaderm on their lip? Did it go deep? Did it work? I'd love to get some thoughts from you all! THANKS!
Dougrun Posted - 10/14/2018 : 19:07:01
just finished my 2nd treatment with curaderm, all closed up and looks great. Also treated an AK on my cheek with it in 4 days.
NYArtist Posted - 10/02/2018 : 07:46:13
Thank you for describing this product which I had never heard of. I went to Amazon to read the reviews and they are wonderful. Thank you again. I'm going to order some of these for sunspots on my face and arms.
Eddie_T Posted - 10/01/2018 : 20:38:20
The cancer returned in early 2018. I applied Flonida 5% (Efudex) until eruption then switched to Sunspot ES. I have been applying Sunspot ES for about 6 months following Curaderm instructions. For the past six weeks or so there are only some very small pits around the perimeter that are still weeping but I am going to continue until no more weeping this time. I may have stopped too early in the past.
Eddie_T Posted - 11/14/2017 : 22:25:03
My crater seems to be healing so I am switching from Sunspot and Curaderm to EMT GEL to promote healing.
Eddie_T Posted - 11/01/2017 : 21:34:56
I had posted on the Efudex thread that the ulcer on my forehead left by Efudex had healed with the use of Curaderm. About a week ago one edge felt a bit scaly so I went back to Curaderm and the perimeter is opening up (one edge only so far). Today I received Sunspot ES that I purchased off Ebay interestingly the instructions say do not use on broken or inflamed skin. I am assuming that is to protect Lane Lab's sunspot cover. I am using Curaderm instructions and will see how it goes.
Clarkster Posted - 09/04/2017 : 09:29:19
Curaderm or Sunspot-es has salicylic acid as a major ingredient. These two papers indicate that hyperthermia would significantly increase the death of the cancer cells:

Out of Warburg Effect: an effective cancer treatment targeting the tumor specific metabolism and dysregulated pH
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/312601602_Out_of_Warburg_Effect_an_effective_cancer_treatment_targeting_the_tumor_specific_metabolism_and_dysregulated_pH
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Laurent_Schwartz/publication/312601602_Out_of_Warburg_Effect_an_effective_cancer_treatment_targeting_the_tumor_specific_metabolism_and_dysregulated_pH/links/58a1766692851c7fb4bf5f9b/Out-of-Warburg-Effect-an-effective-cancer-treatment-targeting-the-tumor-specific-metabolism-and-dysregulated-pH

laserthermia kills acidotic cancer cells more effectively than conventional hyperthermia
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF02133161

I have been using Subspot ES and combining it with intermittent fasting, and a vegan diet. I have also been sitting in the sauna for about an hour at a time (this can be difficult).
I plan on putting on the Sunspot ES before I go into the sauna.
Clarkster Posted - 08/21/2017 : 19:46:06
quote:
Originally posted by rpmatson
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Link from the FDA:
http://www.fda.gov/foi/warning_letters/s6808c.htm




The link above no longer works. This link works though
https://www.fda.gov/iceci/enforcementactions/warningletters/2015/ucm436079.htm
thomaso61 Posted - 06/06/2017 : 10:51:13
Anyone ever use this product?
Dougrun Posted - 11/30/2016 : 21:38:03
My area is now closed and healed, just some scar tissue remains. I am using the BEC sunscreen as it heals since it has vit.E and tamanu oil in it. Seems to be helping. During my experimentation period before I started my serious treatment, i used frankincense oil on it which caused a significant tissue indent, which is now rebuilding. The color is getting more normal day by day and the scar tissue is getting closer to flaking off.

edit: the scar tissue wasn't scar tissue so I started treating it and its back to a big open area again, hopefully I get it all this round.
dtjessup@aol.com Posted - 11/01/2016 : 10:51:26

I have used BEC for 15 months on a BCC. The area started getting smaller and was down to 1/4 inch about 8 weeks ago and then went back to 1/2 inch. My question is - do you know anything that I can do to support the wound healing? Some options seem to be: continue covering with micropore tape, use a band aid, apply or not apply an ointment etc. Not sure about how to support the healing and still be able to not ruin clothes or bed sheets. The area is on my right middle deltoid. Any suggestion much appreciated.
waverider Posted - 10/31/2015 : 19:59:36
NYArtist: If you're sure you are dealing with BCC, petty spurge is pretty much the DIY gold standard now, far as I'm concerned. It has the science and research to back it up (extract of PS active ingredients is now the major component of FDA approved topical chemo prescribed by dermatologists) as well as many successful first-person experiences, including me. Lengthy thread on this site has all the info you could need. If you're in North America, cool autumn weather is the time to plant PS seeds to get a decent indoor crop growing during winter and spring. It doesn't do well in summer in most locales.

Also concentrated topical vitamin C solution and/or paste may eventually work—particularly for superficial or ulcerating BCC versus hard nodular growth. My experience is that you have to hang in there with vitamin C for an extended period of time and be very dogged about applying it (particularly as it often *seems* to be making things worse, rather than better.) You've also got to experiment with when to stop and let it heal. It's a s-l-o-w process but you can google reports throughout the web now—in addition to long thread on this site—from people who've used vitamin C solution successfully against BCC, as well as the scientific theory about how/why it works when it does. I used it as a Plan B when I had a superficial BCC outbreak during summer and didn't have any petty spurge growing due to the heat. As it turned out I never had to use the PS when it finally grew that fall. Two months of vitamin C applications knocked out the BCC and it hasn't recurred.

Your mileage may vary on any/all of this. I am not a doctor.
Dougrun Posted - 10/31/2015 : 19:53:17
Even though I used Curaderm on a spot on my forehead that was undiagnosed, I would not recommend it to the average person. I do have a MS in physiology so i consider myself able to diagnose better than the average person. To blindly use any product without knowing what your condition is just negligent on your part. Blaming the product makes no sense.

I used it successfully on a spot on my forehead for 3 days and it removed the spot and it has not returned after 3 months.
NYArtist Posted - 10/30/2015 : 17:39:27
I was watching The Truth About Cancer series last week and one person spoke about a skin cancer cure that sounded like BEC5 but I think he said it came from the bark of a tree. Eggplant wasn't mentioned. Does anyone who saw the series or has the series know if it was curaderm or some other skin cancer product.

Also has anyone who has used the curaderm tried black salve?

I had used a perscription cream given to me by doctor and it "lit up" my entire forhead with black scabs. I was afraid to go out in public. It was just horrible and it effected my eyesight. I looked up the medication and it had frightening reviews. So much for going through a doctor!

What other options are there? I'm currently using a last of the curaderm that is left in the tube.
lllinda Posted - 10/30/2015 : 15:35:01
Some of you have read my story about my unfortunate experience with Curaderm. As I was on Facebook today, I saw an ad for Curaderm. I couldn't help but post a comment about my experience mostly because I am at this very moment recovering from yet another surgery I had this morning all because I chose to use Curadetm to treat my squamous cell carcinoma.

I would like to share what I posted on Facebook on the Curaderm ad as an update to my story:

"I'm sorry to say, but using Curaderm BEC5 nearly cost me my life, according to my doctors at the Penn State Hershey Cancer Institute. As a matter of fact, this very moment I have today undergone my third skin graft and scar reconstruction surgery within 6 weeks, with 2-3 more surgeries planned in the next month. In April 2014, I had an advanced poorly differentiated squamous cell carcinoma excised from my left posterior thigh which left me with a 5" X 4" nearly 3" deep wound that took 5 months to heal. The cancer had almost spread to my lymph nodes according to my doctor. I will need to have periodic chest X-rays for a very long time to check for any metastasis. All of this pain and misery because of my use of Curaderm.
My use of Curaderm started with a self-diagnosed squamous cell carcinoma on the back of my left thigh. My fear of doctors kept me from getting proper medical treatment, which would have been a relatively easy removal procedure in my dermatologist's office. Instead, I opted to use Curaderm. For five months Curaderm ate away at the ever growing an ulcerating lesion, causing intense burning and pain. These symptoms were considered normal in the Curaderm literature. When I finally realized that my symptoms weren't normal, but in fact dangerous and life threatening, I went to my dermatologist , who sent me to a local surgeon, where I finally had a biopsy. When the results came back, he said it was beyond what he could treat. So, I was sent to Penn State Hershey Medical Center where I have been under the expert care of world class skin cancer specialists. They concur that Curaderm is a dangerous product and should not be used. For those of you who have had good results, I wish you well. But, I highly suggest that before trusting Curaderm to heal your skin cancer, find a qualified doctor that you can trust and don't take chances with skin cancer or your health. I am a painful example that it just isn't worth the risk!"
Deeo Posted - 09/14/2015 : 01:31:05
quote:
Originally posted by NYArtist

Is there any place to order curaderm that isn't as expensive as $144? I used to spend $110 and that was a lot..what would make it go up so high now?


About 6 months ago, Vanuatu was almost wiped out by a Cat 5 cyclone. I'm thinking the eggplant crop has suffered and is currently in short supply. Perhaps the warehouse/factory was flattened in the fray. In my own experience, I find Curaderm to be messy and the treatment takes a long time. The lesion treated with it looks (and feels) clear. However, the one I had cut out just three months ago is showing signs of returning. If It does, I will opt for treating it with Curaderm despite the inconvenience and cost as I don't want to keep getting surgery. (Luckily I stocked up when I heard about the cyclone.)
NYArtist Posted - 09/13/2015 : 16:44:38
Is there any place to order curaderm that isn't as expensive as $144? I used to spend $110 and that was a lot..what would make it go up so high now?
NYArtist Posted - 09/13/2015 : 16:41:19
Hi
What do you mean by..that you are applying eggplant? Are you just taking a regular eggplant and putting the inside of the peel on your face. Please let me know. The curaderm has gone up to $144 from $110 the last time I bought it and I can't afford to spend that much.

Please email me with your recipe for using real eggplant. szukidavis@aol.com/ Thanks.
Shelley

quote:
Originally posted by Allie

I was planning on ordering Curaderm, but since marsha's post, I started questioning it's true effectiveness. It does seem curious that despite the 100% curative rate claimed by Curaderm, no one on topicalinfo has yet posted a conclusive positive result.

I googled "Curaderm scam" and came up with some discouraging information. One website claims that there are no records in Great Britain of the clinical trials claimed by Curaderm advertisers, and that the positive claims found on some forum websites actually came from the same source on Vanuata, which is where the Curaderm is sold from (not Australia).

I think I will not order the Curaderm after all. I'm currently applying eggplant, and although my lesions seem to have vastly improved after 5 weeks, they are still not fully healed. I plan to be patient a while longer, but will consider other possibilities, maybe including surgery if I can find someone who does MOHS.


Dougrun Posted - 07/11/2015 : 20:22:40
i wasnt able to stay with the treatment, it would scab over almost immediately if left uncovered, like overnight. Since the area is undiagnosed, I dont want to use it on that area. tonight i picked at the scab and it peeled right off, clean skin under it but cant tell yet if the pigment is changed. It sure did something though.
lllinda Posted - 07/09/2015 : 11:43:32
I agree. Using Curaderm for 6 months turned what could have been a simple procedure in the dermatologist's office into a life threatening ordeal requiring extensive surgery and months of healing. I'm still not back to normal activities even after a year. I have a reconstructive surgery planned for the end of the summer. It's just not worth the risk, in my opinion!
gibsontown Posted - 07/09/2015 : 10:27:10
This was my experience, twice in a year. It looked like it went through all the stages, healing beautifully. Both times a wound opened up several weeks later.

The cancer was not gone. Mine was infiltrative BCC. The curader could not reach deep enough to get it all (I found later from the surgeon.) It was still very small on my skin, but underneath had grown quite broad and deep.

It can look great after healing - but the cancer was only trimmed and is still deeply imbedded. The surgeon said the problem with these self treatments is that we are pruning the top, but not the root system (like a plant) and it grows back even faster.

I have another spot I'm watching for another week or so but I will not hesitate to go in. Delaying the surgery went from a minor procedure to needing 10 days off work, and skin and cartiledge grafting.

quote:
Originally posted by mandyyy

if I'm honest it doesn't look gone at all - it still has the suspicious raised area around the surface. Mine healed similar after curaderm but a few months later i felt the bump and got a biopsy, and it was still there - just hidden underneath all the new the skin - and bigger than ever :( I was so upset!

Dougrun Posted - 07/09/2015 : 07:33:33
3rd day, (4th treatment) of curaderm, definitely stung when i put it on, burning a little but not too bad. dark patch seems to be breaking up in appearance.
Dougrun Posted - 07/08/2015 : 08:54:41
I found that apple cider vinegar also stings but I was testing a patch on my forehead thats undiagnosed. I started using Curaderm on it yesterday. It softened it up a lot, just a little tingle today. I am healing from a basal treatment on the other side of my scalp I used Vitamin C on successfully (with dmso to go deep) so that crater is starting to heal up now. The BEC was a backup if that failed but it worked nicely.
DEK Posted - 05/08/2015 : 14:29:14
Thanks Dan and Deeo for your replies. Dan, one question: Am I correct in thinking that I should let the tender and exposed parts of the treatment area heal before using the D-Limonene since so much of the pain reaction would be to the rawness of the flesh and not the presence of cancer cells?

Thanks
Deeo Posted - 05/06/2015 : 22:21:22
Hi Dek, If its precancerous, its probably a keratosis and Dr Cham's book (which I've mislaid atm) said to apply twice a day for 3 days for a keratosis. If that's the case, you've possibly over-treated it. Maybe you could just do the orange oil test as Dan suggested just to be sure. Let us know how it heals up. I have a keratosis on my nose which didn't completely heal with cryotherapy. I'm a bit reluctant to treat it with BEC as I've seen how ugly the BCC treatment was and don't dare do it on my face. If yours hasn't made deep holes which exude profusely then it probably was quite shallow and might heal without any drama.
dan Posted - 05/06/2015 : 21:02:37
Hi DEK, deciding when to stop is not an easy call for any cancer treatment and most treatments are at least skin irritants which makes it even more difficult. I like to use the sting of topically applied orange oil (d-limonene) as my best indicator. When applied to normal skin, orange oil will not cause a stinging sensation. When applied to cancerous and perhaps precancerous areas, orange oil causes a sting after about one minute that lasts for about 25 minutes, perhaps less for shallow affected areas. D-limonene has mild anticancer properties as well. Some people may be allergic to it but otherwise it seems safe to me to use it as an indicator. I have used it on large areas of skin for several weeks. If and when you decide to try it as a diagnostic tool, I would recommend letting the affected area rest for several days to avoid a false reading. The stinging can be intense but it goes away like clockwork. Orange oil and/or d-limonene capsules are inexpensive and available at vitamin stores.

https://www.mskcc.org/cancer-care/integrative-medicine/herbs/d-limonene
http://www.amazon.com/Jarrow-Formulas-D-Limonene-1000mg-60-Soft/dp/B0025PX4JC
http://www.amazon.com/NOW-Foods-Orange-Sweet-ounce/dp/B0019LPL8A

DEK Posted - 05/06/2015 : 08:33:16
Hi, I'm new to all this and am in need of some advice. A biopsy showed precancerous cells in the top section of my left ear. I've been applying BEC5 to it for the past month. I have all the usual reactions. Skin peeling off. Redness and in places raw flesh.

My question is about how to know when to stop. I've read here that when the cancer cells are all dead the skin will heal. But my understanding is that as long as I'm applying the BEC5, the acid in it will continue to eat away at the flesh. So how do I know when the cells are dead? Or am I not understanding the process?

Thanks.
mandyyy Posted - 05/03/2015 : 23:17:12
if I'm honest it doesn't look gone at all - it still has the suspicious raised area around the surface. Mine healed similar after curaderm but a few months later i felt the bump and got a biopsy, and it was still there - just hidden underneath all the new the skin - and bigger than ever :( I was so upset!
Deeo Posted - 04/25/2015 : 15:48:18
@ gunge
The one I'm treating now is one that became evident after I treated the first one. It was hardly visible before, just a little nick on the skin with some irritation. This one has opened up bigger than the original and is just as ugly. I haven't had any rocks emerge from either of mine. I got my curaderm from a place in Perth and they sent me Dr Cham's book free. Even with all the info in the book,I still felt unsure of what to expect. The book doesn't describe just how ugly it will get before it heals and its easy to give up just when the situation is about to turn. Both of mine developed bright red raggedy edges around the outside of the lesion with blistering. No one else seems to describe that. Luckily you had your wife's support as it takes a long time.
Gunge Posted - 04/25/2015 : 00:29:31
I must admit I was convinced to stop using Cureaderm when it became gungy. It really looked terrible and my wife who was the one who wanted me to use Cureaderm was thinking "oh no what I have done''. If not for reading about other people's same experiences on this forum I would have stopped. Thank God I didn't as those 'Balls' (rocks) would have never emerged. I was always annoyed that no real instructions cane with my Cureaderm or a list of things that would and could happen as it would have put my mind at ease. But thanks to this forum I was able to have some sort of a guide as to what I could expect. I thought I had better pay it forward and contribute to the same forum that helped me out and now BCC free.

@Deeo incredible that this has happened to you at only 4 weeks. Was that because it was relatively a new BCC. Mine was around 6 years old so I guess thats why a lot longer to treat ?
Deeo Posted - 04/24/2015 : 01:22:02
@ Gunge. Your user name says it all. I've got one at the "gunge" stage at about 4 weeks and its hard to have self belief and keep going. I remember with the last one, once the pus stopped, the red area began to reduce, the pain lessened and the skin grew back in a very short time. This time its happening a lot sooner but there is definitely more gunge happening.
Gunge Posted - 04/23/2015 : 21:57:06
I used Cureaderm after my wife convinced me to try rather than having BCC surgically removed. I used it every morning and night for just over 3 months and it was only after 13 weeks did something happen and happen it did. I woke one miring to find my BCC 'infected' and puss starting to ozze. My immediate reaction was to stop using Cureaderm and go to my GP. I immediately was frantic on seeing if this was a common problem and thank people on this site for posting since I read that this was not infection but cancerous cells coming out so I decided to continue to use Cureaderm. That evening it had worsened and the infection looked worse. That evening I showered and gently pushed either side of the BCC and pushed the puss out. This resulted in shrinking the size of yen infection and I repeated this the following evening. The third evening I again pushed puss out and was amazed that 2 'balls' (clay like) came out off the BCC (I had read on this forum others referred to this a a rock). The ball smelt vile and could be squished between my fingers. With the ball removed the raised infected area was dramatically reduced in size but was still very swollen. I continued to use the cream and 2 days later I noticed another ball had risen to the surface and I gentky applied pressure and it popped out. I contined to use Cureaderm for another 2 days and at this point the infection had virtually gone and pink skin had grown over the top of the BCC. I used Cureaderm for another 3 days and at this point it seemed like the time to cease as the BCC had completely covered over and was virtually flat now. There was a slight raised area on the top of the BCC and I began using Tamanu oil for just over 3 weeks. At the end of the 3 weeks the BCC is completely gone and only a faint scar. Thank you to everyone who posted on this site to help me as a giude

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