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T O P I C    R E V I E W bonder Posted - 12/30/2011 : 20:44:05 I THINK THIS IS TRULY UNAMERICAN TO BUILD A SITE LIKE THIS GIVING HOPE TO THOSE OF US WITHOUT ANY. THE SHOWING OF ONE OR TWO SET OF PICTURES OF THE SAME PEOPLE SIMPLY TO GET PEOPLE TO BUY NATURAL PRODUCTS. NOW I HAVE WAITED TOO LONG FOR A DECENT HOPE OF SURGERY WITHOUT FACIAL DESTRUCTION. THESE HOME REMEDIES WORK GREAT FOR SELLERS AND NO ONE ELSE WHERE IS THE PROOF????? 75   L A T E S T    R E P L I E S    (Newest First) bonder Posted - 09/01/2013 : 15:34:41 Dave, Camelot seems to think they are a great alternative to the typical options... http://www.camelotcancercare.com/blog/2011/08/31/how-laetrile-and-vitamin-c-help-kill-cancer I dont get here as much as I used to so, I built a (live chat) in case some of us like the idea of bouncing ideas off each other and not waiting for responses.... http://canceramericanchat.blogspot.com/ http://weedwirenews.blogspot.com/ Be Well Always, Bonder Dave2001 Posted - 08/26/2013 : 03:03:32 bonder, thank you for sharing so many information and thoughts ! A lot of things I've red related to 'healthcare system' are mind-boggling. Of course I wish you as much as possible positive attitude and emotions in order to finish the battle in the best way. BTW did anyone found some useful info on laetril+DMSO creme? Thomas Haugen Posted - 06/29/2013 : 09:52:39 Bonder, too early to tell? Some people here seem to diagnose with orange oil - if it stings you've still got it. Some of mine healed completely and then started erupting again at the edges. The only way I can tell is to wait till it bleeds or sloughs. If it doesn't bleed or slough, I assume I nailed it. Tom bonder Posted - 06/29/2013 : 09:17:25 Hey All, Well, it seems to matter what I look like these days so, I was wondering if anyone thinks the tumor area recently diagnosed as a (BASIL) tumor is starting to fill-in or are the raised areas just small tumors growing once again ? I'll try and get these pics going... Be Well Always, Bonder Image Insert: 36.59 KB Image Insert: 58.51 KB bonder Posted - 02/04/2013 : 08:16:22 Hey Thomas, Good To Hear From You ! I guess my messages are not as revealing as I thought lol... "For me, I was not very happy to see several bumps start to grow within the cavern left after cutting away a single bump beforehand." This was meant to show that I went my own direction after the complete failure of the cavemen cutting away at the original tumor and then starting multiple smaller tumors within the cavern they left on my face. Actually, I am doing quite well according to others I speak with from time to time about it as things seem to be healing up nicely. Greetings JulyPanda. The answer to your question is basically: (ANOTHER FAILURE OF THE CAVEMEN). Due to my father becoming quite ill, I was forced to start taking medication for my seizures that I had since I was a kid but, had learned about diet change with help from some adult friends and was probably one of ten people in the United states with my seizure types that were not on medications. In order to care for him and drive back and forth to help him, I needed the safety net of the medication just in case when I started crying in the car on my way home after seeing him becoming a skinny and frail old man, my electric reactions became overwhelming. The problem was, due to my size and some other calculations, I was prescribed about 60% more medication than I actually needed and so as the years went by, I became more and more of an aggressive/worried halfwit and this went on for over ten year even past the time of dad's death. The tumor on my face just did not bother me very much because life became more of just being able to eat,dress and pay bills late all the time after dealing with my dad's legal and medical issues. Until one day through the fog, I decided to get onto the internet to study seizure medications... I was able to find out enough evidence that perhaps (over-medication) was worth checking out and so because I lived alone and had just sold my house making a tidy sum before the crash, I lowered my levels of the one medication until the fog had cleared. Now I was able to walk downstairs and remember why I went there once again, there were no more uncontrollable reactions anymore and my neighbors that were going out of their way to harass me while I was down quit... because they once again saw in my eyes that I would not tolerate terrorism. I also bought a dog to warn me about intruders in my yard area. I realize this sounds fantastic but while I was trading stocks on the net one day, my laptop was not able to sell after a huge buy and I lost thousands of dollars in a day. A greeting with a smile came onto my screen saying hello... Also, my mail box was broken into and a false police report was filed against me for alleged burglary. (No court date was ever filed). This helpful process I started took about 3 weeks to a month after lowering the dosage. Then, I looked into the mirror and the vast ugliness had meaning to me... So, I decided to study cancer,came to this website, began www.canceramerican.com and took pictures of the process to demonstrate how once again modern medicine had failed due to the physicians trained in the USA medical schools that were all enhanced by the Carnegie and the Rockerfeller families making millions on medications. This is why only now are we learning via the internet, that lack of vitamins both the legal ones and the (illegal) vitamins are often times the answers to our medical problems.... Vitamin deficits along with the corporate food garbage Dr Blaylock speaks of on the website, makes me wonder what children will look like in the next 20 years if things do not change ? The pics on the website are gross but, I felt people should see the process they were in for if they did this at home naturally. The two recent videos I just posted for viewing truly help demonstrate what ascorbate can do and what angiogenisis is all about... THE WAR ON THE WEAK http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IaH0Ws8RtSc#! Be Well Always, Bonder julypanda Posted - 02/04/2013 : 05:17:36 Bonder, Just curious why you let the skin cancer get so large before treating?? The scar does look wonderful considering what you started with.... Thomas Haugen Posted - 02/04/2013 : 00:09:10 Bonder, Ups and downs, eh? Story of my cancer fight too. It seems to be licked and then it pops back up. You shouldn't be surprised considering the size of your SCC. The black salve killed most of it, right? No surprise a few cells at the bottom of the lesion escaped and are now multiplying. I feel for you man, but you seem to have found the correct lifestyle and treatment regimen to eventually succeed. I wish you all the best. Tom bonder Posted - 02/03/2013 : 13:31:30 Greetings All... I thought I would chime in once again after scanning the web for more Cancer developments. These last two youtube videos talk about vitamin C and how Ascorbate really seems to make quite a difference in Cancer patients that were even so severe that doctors would not operate... The video about Angiogenisis is somewhat technical but still very informative. The other video is from a more (regular) speaker that works with a clinic that has been using IVC vitamin C treatments since 1994. I would have never known that one needed 400 times more vitamin C in the blood stream than is usually recommended in order to kill a tumor unless I watched this stuff. Or that many Oncologists won't use a multiphasic approach including IVC because they are afraid of it negating their precious chemo due to what seems like very old information. ( I still think it should be illegal for oncologists to get a commission on the chemo-drugs they prescribe). There is no doubt in my mind that a person needs to adjust their diet, try the most simple and less painful approaches first and then move up in aggressiveness if needed in order to avoid the knives of the cavemen. Question : If your child needed to be swimming in a pool everyday, would you rather have them in liquid filled with microscopic cancer cells that were loosened by an incision or, some orange oil that might be floating around ? For me, I was not very happy to see several bumps start to grow within the cavern left after cutting away a single bump beforehand. It does not surprise me that many people have more cancer in their families than others do. After all, most of us eat quite often the same as our parents did and sometimes like their Grand Parents. I know I did... Be Well Always, Bonder http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNP1EAYLhOs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RQPGVvzplQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PI_rKuQWiE bonder Posted - 11/10/2012 : 07:35:34 LEAVE IT TO LINUS !!! Saturday Oct 27, 2012 (foodconsumer.org) -- Linus Pauling Institute this month cited a report in Critical Reviews in Food Science and Nutrition as suggesting that the currently recommended dietary allowance or RDA of vitamin C should be more than doubled to increase from 75 mg per day for women and 90 mg per day for men to 200 mg per day for adults. http://www.foodconsumer.org/newsite/Nutrition/Vitamins/vitamin_c_1027121136.html In my opinion, not only is the world going to have to accept cannabis for the CB2 receptors but also recognize that with less natural protection from the sun, we need more internal vitamin C.... Winter is coming so, avoid the blues with vitamin D !!! http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/VitaminD-HealthProfessional Be Well Always, Bonder bonder Posted - 11/07/2012 : 09:12:14 So, Anyone Thinking About Cannabis ? Looks like Colorado And Washington are. http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/06/14977250-colorado-washington-approve-recreational-marijuana-use?lite The idea of cannabis came across me in my youth but, these days there is just too much evidence in cannabinoid receptors to ignore... http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&newwindow=1&tbo=d&site=&source=hp&q=cannabinoid+receptors&oq=CANNABINOID+RECEPTOR&gs_l=hp.1.1.5j0l9.8657.8657.0.16381.1.1.0.0.0.0.444.444.4-1.1.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.4MTawhiXovM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZqCoToy4NE&feature=player_embedded There seems to be a (perfect-fit) demonstrated in the video and although I am sure Big Pharma does not want too good of a treatment out there, perhaps they will just applaud the use of (potpills) for the sick.... It has spurred an idea in me to ask around the seizure world for what have been some results ? I remember weed as being a way to get too tired too early but, perhaps a regulated dose can (dim-down) the receptors like the video indicates just enough to make things better. Making epileptics less afraid and more productive would be reason enough for the govt research in my opinion. As I put onto www.canceramerican.com with videos,Cancer may also be a reason to use the plant. Be Well Always, Bonder bonder Posted - 11/05/2012 : 08:20:56 susanc, As Tom says, few folks here have an agenda.... If you ever eat canned foods or go to a chinese take-out, I would take an hour with your favorite beverage and watch what a neurosurgeon has to say about our sneaky American food system and then look around for things about vaccines. This video has gone dark on www.canceramerican.com so, I'll have to fix it. As a person with various seizures since childhood, I made some guesses about fast food etc based upon my studies and lived most of my life without medication due to diet change... Dr Russell Blaylock (Author) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEh3_JBDErw Be Well Always, Bonder Thomas Haugen Posted - 09/28/2012 : 07:54:30 susanc, welcome to this forum. Each of us does our own research, some in great depth and other persons don't have that much time. As with any info on the 'net you need to do your own research to verify a particular regimen is valid and appropriate for you. Unlike some other forums, few people here have any agenda other than to find the best treatment for their skin cancers. Tom susanc Posted - 09/28/2012 : 04:22:11 Is this post is based on the research done? However,it is very much informative.Thanks for sharing the knowledge. bonder Posted - 09/18/2012 : 22:09:43 Well Anivoc, There is no one here that can say you don't have (juevos americanos) for everything you have tried lol... After the research and listening to Alpha Omega's Man (Caton) explain his theory on how Black Salve works, I felt the salve with the B-17 I was dosing would bring me along the lines of Dr Budwig's approaches using the cottage cheese daily. This is why I still feel if a person wants to really heal up, they need the full body approach. It amazes me that I let myself become over-medicated by a brain quack and take too many seizure meds that dulled me after so many decades without any but, I guess that is the price we can pay for loyalty to our loved ones when they become ill like I did. I sure have cleared up recently thank goodness... I have for many years been a very strong opponent against too much mfgr sugars and fats. Personally,I feel Americans are now facing the hardest medical opponents in the history of our country and cannot believe that Phy-ed has been allowed to be taken out of our public school systems. A couple of weeks ago one of my older friends underwent brain surgery for a sudden subdural hematoma episode and the nurses could not believe the short recovery time he employed. He at 67 was still eating home cooked meals and was taking his supplements daily. We all cannot go to the natural food store all the time for less pesticides but, we can surely boil our carrots so we don't need to worry as much. As weird as she looks, I have to wonder if this gal is on to something ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=N6zlQscoHIA#! Thanx for your response. Be Well Always, Bonder anivoc Posted - 09/18/2012 : 14:03:03 Yo Bonder Totally your call and you are right that your wound is in a majorly awkward place. Keeping the wound covered and moist so no scab forms has two advantages the first is it will heal faster, the second is it helps keep the wound clean so less chance of contamination / cause for infection. You've got a cool beard so I wouldn't shave it off but you could definitely shave the area that you're trying to heal. It's just whiskers and they'll grow back. The healing faster and ending up with a better looking scar are worth it imo but again just my opinion. I am blown away with the size of that sucker and that you whacked it out so clean. Awesome. I have this one on my forehead that I have been throwing everything but bloodroot & petty spurge on over the last few years..trying to uncover that softer gentler way..so far not so much luck.. I've eaten a good amount of it away but I have a round ridge that stands up @ 1/8' up from the normal skin and the ridge ring itself is a good 3/8" wide..The complete diameter of the lesion is @ an inch and it sort of round with a @ 1/2' diameter cavern in the middle that has been eaten away by several different approaches. As I have mentioned elsewhere I am holding off sharing what I am using because I don't want to be another eggplant/vinegar waste of time. Someone came here posting about caffeine and red clover a few weeks ago with unbelievable results..no pictures...no biopsy beforehand just amazing results...well I ordered the pure caffeine and red clover and tried it. First few days it did seem to effect the wounds differently but now two weeks into it the "hopium" is letting down and I think I have just found another thing that holds these things at bay. I have a deep Ak that I am using as the benchmark and if something eradicates it then I will endorse. This mixture has irritated it but like I said two weeks in and it is still there. Well as you always say "BE WELL" brother Bonder. bonder Posted - 09/17/2012 : 23:33:37 Okay I sure will, I'd hate to disappoint my fans lmao !! Thomas Haugen Posted - 09/17/2012 : 22:50:16 Bonder, I haven't had any large deep wounds to heal, so I haven't needed to keep them moist. I have read that the moist regimen assists in reducing scarring. Please let us know what regimen you use and why. You may become the new poster boy for black salve. Tom bonder Posted - 09/17/2012 : 22:10:31 So Tom, I think I will take your ( heal up ) advice now that it sort of looks like maximum medical improvement from the open lower layer of skin and perhaps just keep the area clean without extra treatments upon it... Anivoc has been very clear about keeping wounds covered with tapes etc but, my problem area just does not seem to work well with coverage and I am not going to shave off my beard for this stupid thing lol... So, do you not keep the area moist at all during this phase ? Be Well Always, Bonder bonder Posted - 09/15/2012 : 14:06:21 Hey Tom... Well, I guess the best way to depict this is to say that the small brown spot is what is left of the (total open spot) where I could put orange oil into to get deeper through the skin. I am only guessing when I say what looks like a protective skin layer came from the outer periphery of the wound. When I look at the pic right above it from last month, the whole wound looks like a more red and deeper layer that I could put orange oil into... Being as though this is my first time at this, I think it is going quite well and my friend said last week , " well, now it looks like you have a small wound that is healing up " I sure hope it get smaller and smaller :) Be Well Always, Bonder Thomas Haugen Posted - 09/15/2012 : 08:34:37 Bonder, it looks like new skin to me. Did it grow in from the edges of the wound like skin would? bonder Posted - 09/15/2012 : 06:41:39 The latest pic for Sept at bottom of www.canceramerican.com One month later it looks like skin is closing the gap maybe ? opinions ? Be Well Always, Bonder bonder Posted - 08/26/2012 : 14:36:18 Dan, I came across this article about green tea treatments for (MELANOMA)on canceramerican.com Might be old news but, I felt it should be read... http://www.medicaldaily.com/articles/11671/20120822/green-tea-eyed-as-possible-skin-cancer-treatment.htm Be Well Always, Bonder bonder Posted - 08/25/2012 : 19:02:14 Thought I'd chant a bit about vitamin E application for those that might have forgot lol... It's common knowledge that vitamin E is good for your skin, but not many people could tell you exactly what this nutrient does -- vitamin E is an antioxidant that protects and repairs your skin. Antioxidants are agents that neutralize the oxidant effect of free radicals, which are molecules that damage collagen and cause skin dryness, fine lines and wrinkles [source: Bouchez]. A simple chemistry lesson can explain how vitamin E does this. The atoms that comprise your body try to maintain an even number of electrons -- that's what makes them stable. If an atom has an uneven number of electrons, it will steal an electron from another atom to become stable. When your skin takes a beating from outside factors, such as the sun's ultraviolet rays, your body can produce free radicals. Free radicals are atoms with an uneven number of electrons, and when they form inside your body, they steal electrons from healthy cells like the ones that make up your skin. This can cause a damaging chain reaction, and that's where antioxidants like vitamin E come in [source: Rice]. Antioxidants neutralize free radicals and prevent cellular damage from occurring. Vitamin E is one of the most powerful antioxidants, but your body can't produce it, which means you have to make sure you're getting enough of this valuable nutrient in your diet. Eating foods high in vitamin E and taking vitamin E supplements if you can't get enough through your food intake can can help prevent premature aging of your skin and damage to your DNA [source: Phillips]. Studies show that taking vitamin E long term can even reduce sunburns from exposure to UVB radiation. This doesn't mean that taking vitamins or applying topical vitamin E will allow you to safely bake in the sun, but you can help your skin stay healthier and more supple by ensuring you get enough of this antioxidant vitamin [source: Bouchez]. I feel that my Topical use daily of the concentrated form (20,000 IU )bought at Walmart has been quite beneficial. Dab on several times a day and then leave on overnight. Be Well Always, Bonder bonder Posted - 08/19/2012 : 20:27:30 Howdy, got this off of canceramerican.com news links today http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/18/hempfest-2012_n_1801294.html I was wondering how it was ok for the corporate farming of 420 to be occurring so much ? Could be an easier cure for skin cancer is on it's way... (and a heckuva a lot of tax revenue if the prohibition laws go away) Tom glad to see you were impressed with the evidence, I feel Caton explains it quite well in the video and he is out of Equador these days I guess. I decided to put another video next to the sundance video about what Latin America and other countries have had to endure (The End Of Poverty) about 2 hours. It really pains me to see what Europe and our country has done. Even religion was used to condemn the 3rd world ! This is why I have never trusted big corporate medicine. The commoner is swimming in a vast sea of sharks... Be Well Always, Bonder anivoc Posted - 08/16/2012 : 08:45:26 Hey Bonder.. I'm out of country right now on business..I did start to post something that had some typos, started to edit but ran out of time and just deleted it. Awesome job dude! Really proud of your courage to go at this so independently. Keep up the good work and I'll post more thoughts and questions when I am back in town next week...Again great job and congratulations! Thomas Haugen Posted - 08/15/2012 : 22:05:15 Bonder, WOW you've paid your dues re-applying the paste. Talk about self torture. I commend you. Orange oil is the diagnostic aid because it is supposed to create nearly unbearable stinging if it encounters cancer cells. I'm not sure if it will also sting horribly on an open wound just because. Regarding swelling up, I believe that's an indication of how well your immune system is identifying cancer cells and killing them and removing the debris. I've posted photos of my face all swollen up just from using Astaxanthin and a good diet as a means of attacking the cancer cells. Your experience fits in perfectly with Caton's explanation that bloodroot salve strips away the camouflage that cancer cells use to evade the immune system so your body then kills them. The most plausible explanation I've read yet as to why bloodroot finds and kills cancer cells. Why has it taken me all this time and research to finally learn what I've been questioning for several years? Thank you Bonder for pointing me to Caton's YouTube video and for your explanation as well. bonder Posted - 08/15/2012 : 19:11:33 HEY ROBBIE !! Yeah, just from looking at the pics in order on the site, one can see definite progress... My hope is others take the time to watch the cancer videos and read the research copy on there as well. The videos about the works of Max and Charolette Gerson told me the tale about nutrition and how so much of what happens to us is due to our diet. I really felt Alpha Omega's Greg Caton Knew something about herbal pastes that has not been mentioned anywhere else I could find besides the Youtube link I left up above here. If the problem was that cancer had been able to hide, then I was going to be the one to make it visible to my immune system if it was within my ability. Or, if the paste really just kills cancer cells, then that is fine with me as well. Tom, I have applied the paste with pain (3) times to get to this point and used the petroleum gel to keep moist, then cut away the necrotic tissue as well. Damn memory is still not back, I'm trying to remember if it was Dan or Anivoc or somebody that was so well versed about using orange oil or ascorbic acid to determine if there was still cancer cells lingering around? I have both pure oil and acid crystals. My plan was to use vitamin C perhaps with DMSO to finish off the underneath now that I got that hulk off my face. I can still feel something with my tongue inside the same spot as the tumor was that feels like a fat cell or two but, I can feel that on my lower lip area as well, just more separated. I just cannot remember if this is unusual for my mouth really... (There is one thing I want others to realize about the Bloodroot paste and that is for me at least, the area I applied it to looked very swelled up at first, to the point that one side of my upper lip hung down.) Swelling was not unexpected but, not quite to that degree lol ! Be Well Always, Bonder robbiethegood Posted - 08/15/2012 : 14:38:24 I'm so pleased to see this. Looks like you are getting somewhere here, it's much better than the pic I saw some time ago. Interesting stuff and some good sense talked on this thread too, good points on diet and everything. Thomas Haugen Posted - 08/15/2012 : 13:00:17 Bonder, I just saw your most recent photo - that wound looks really good. Have you done a repeat application of salve? Who knows, maybe it's better to let the wound heal up and then re-apply. Might not be as much agonizing pain that way if your immune system didn't kill all the cancer cells. I also cannot see any recent post by Anivoc. Take care, Tom bonder Posted - 08/15/2012 : 11:00:21 FROM http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?11225-Vitamin-B-17-Laetrile-Anti-Cancer-Properties "Re: Vitamin B-17 - Laetrile - Anti-Cancer Properties I'm old enough to remember the clinical trials of a drug named laetrile. The drug name may have been spelled differently. They claimed that the drug did not work. So say it worked so well they had to back track and spread misinformation about it. Others say the synthetic version of B-17 did not work. Anyway, the truth is still the truth and B-17 does seem to have tremendous value, yes. It's found easily in flax seed, sometimes called linseed. Farmers heal their animals using linseed oil. Dr. Johanna Budwig CURES cancer (she may have passed) using flaxseed oil and cottage cheese. The cheese contains a sulphuric protein that acts synergistically with the B-17 in the flax oil. BAM, cancer cured. She has taken deathbed cancer patients that could no longer eat and healed them with flax/chees enemas! " I have personally added flax seed oil to my diet since around may 2012 and the pic you see above is only 3 weeks after the mass fell off... Be Well Always, Bonder bonder Posted - 08/13/2012 : 16:44:16 Tom, I am not totally giving up on the idea of (roots) or that which is called (roots). I agree with waverider about his position that cancer does not run and hide but, perhaps it does spread beyond the circle we see. Part of the reason for this is because during both the 1st twelve hours and after subsequent applications in sections, I personally felt the (tingling) in semi-distant areas of my face. I originally chalked this up to the fact that the left side of my face has a shall we say, (re-directed nerve structure) since the surgeons removed a benign mass from under my left ear and so ever since then I can squeeze my left ear and feel the squeeze in another part of my face lol... As time became an issue for me, this position on the healing was mostly why I chose an herbal paste... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoAJSldC8ZQ I feel we need to try and enable the body to do it's own work rather than simply hack away until things cannot be seen under a microscope anymore. A strange coincidence has occurred since I changed my eating habits for this and allowed the paste into my body. For over 15 years I have had a small bump that never changed in size on the right inside of my pants zipper which happened after a boating accident. As a man, we tend to get pretty worried about such things so, I called an old friend from college that I knew had a removal surgery for cancer down there. He was kind enough to explain to me the enlargement and pain issues etc and I was pretty convinced it was not cancer for myself. Whatever the bump was, it is now GONE... and I check usually monthly for changes even though nothing ever changed there before. Did I ever mention that I don't believe in coincidences ? It would seem to me that the (total body) approach is what is needed during times when our immune systems are down and the idea of helping the body to recognize cancer as an invasive agent so it can heal itself is about as natural approach as I have been able to find next to diet change. A person does have to be able to endure some pain for a while as the price for the healing. However, I have had deep stitches on my face, that is for sure NOT (pain-free). I don't expect to get out of this looking the same as I did before the growth occurred but, I already look a lot better than I did in the beginning of July. Be Well Always, Bonder Image Insert: 61.04 KB I think it is better compared to the pics at the bottom of (www.canceramerican.com) Maybe I can start calling this a burn or something else now lol... By The By, here was what I looked like after the Cave Men cut into me... Looks like my body pretty much did the same thing all by itself ! lol... Image Insert: 15.59 KB Thomas Haugen Posted - 08/13/2012 : 10:56:49 Bonder, I know what you mean. The surgeons brag about how they keep cutting until the pathologist finds no more cancer cells under his 'scope. So the surgeon removes a margin of noncancerous tissue all the way around the wound, creating a gaping hole that the technique made necessary. I would lose the end of my nose if I let them do that. I brought up the matter because of the factual dispute over whether the tumor sends out "roots" as some salve users have reported. Your SCC may be the type that does not do that. I look forward to reading about your progress how your body can heal such a large wound. Tom bonder Posted - 08/13/2012 : 08:47:52 Creating a Margin In my opinion, Big Medicine has basically been mimicking what the body does for itself and calling it some sort of genious... As I said before, I am no expert but, perhaps the natural cylindrical uniformity of the tissue left after the Eschar is the very same principle used by surgeons today when they (create a clean margin) for a wound. So, what would you rather do, go have stitches left far and wide or first try and see if your own body can be induced to repair itself and expel foreign matter and then leave it's own margins for the wound? Surgical Debridement http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlbanGBgecc&feature=related Be Well Always, Bonder bonder Posted - 08/13/2012 : 08:12:43 L.M.A.O. Good point waverider, I did come across this recently about resistance however (good read) http://www.redorbit.com/news/health/1112668477/cancer-stem-cell-cure The interesting thing is, if we believe that we can swallow a pill to get better like in most medical circumstances, there are even (Black Salve Pills) we can take to perhaps seek out the so-called roots... My opinion is most people just do not know how to approach healing themselves even in a small manner. The large mass that I had to deal with needed to be approached in (sections) just as I read and I knew that the salve had an ability to (seek and destroy) what was next to it if there was cancer so I did not goop it all over my face, just covered the whole thing on top and underneath. When the 1st piece plopped off it was pretty scary but, showed me that hacking into my face with a knife was not the only way of expelling unwanted material. Back when the cavemen cut the 1st mass off, it was much smaller in circumference and it seems only spread out the problem for me. ( I was too dulled at the time to appreciate the need for a speedy reaction) I'll be presenting an updated version of a couple of pics now that all areas are down and less inflamed. The nurse from another part of this site speaks about necrotic tissue. "Black or gray tissue is necrotic (dead tissue) and should be removed immediately as it contains toxins that can affect the emerging healthy tissue." I have found that this can be painful to remove this stuff too early but have to ask this question : If this necrotic tissue is basically dead cells then, why not make an important plan to get it out of the way during the healing/regrowth phase ? (Nurse shows it here) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtVK6Iostfk So, a person can 1st get the body to expel the foreign mass, keep it moist and clean with water, then leave moist with some sort of hydro-gel and keep after the necrotic tissue while washing it (probably not with this sort of machine like the nurse has) but the same idea of using water. Personally, I think one is wasting their time if they don't adjust their diet to consume more omega threes and A HECKUVA LOT LESS SUGAR, MSG AND OTHER EXCITOTOXINS. Otherwise, they may very well be hindering their body's natural repair system and perhaps this is why their cancer comes back... Be Well Always, Bonder waverider Posted - 08/12/2012 : 23:56:43 Personally, I always doubted this "roots" theory and/or the "white dots," too. There's either active cancer there or there isn't. Period. What's a root? One often hears the roots theory mentioned in conjunction with the notion that, by treating cancer on the surface with black salve, petty spurge or whatever, you might "drive the cancer deeper" into tissues. As though the cancer cells have a meeting and agree to pack up and flee into other areas to escape. I think if you have BCC in a certain area, it's not a "root"-- it's just more cancer. And cancer cells don't run away from treatment. They may recur in situ or even become resistant (though I haven't noticed resistance happening with BCC) but they don't practice escape and evasion. bonder Posted - 08/12/2012 : 15:17:45 Well Tom,now that I blasted through most of that big bastard, my plans are to treat the area with orange oil and see what I feel. I am sure there are as many stories of those that never had a cancer problem again as there are those that did have problems afterwards. So, all one can do is keep with the diet that claims so much success and realize that every time we go to a restaurant and order a soup or gravy, we are playing Russian roulette with our bodies just as was planned by the big money... If you go to canceramerican.com and scroll down, you will find a video about (EXCITOTOXINS) by a Christian Neurosurgeon named Russell Blaylock (the best 60 min vid on health I have watched in a very long time). It is becoming clear that grocery store pizzas are too dangerous for a guy like me as are many canned soups. I truly have to wonder how many children could be so much more functional if only certain foods and drinks were kept out of their diets and then medication levels reduced accordingly ? Not every Black Salve has zinc chloride in it and personally Tom, I don't want to promote non-experts making their own salves and feel that folks should look towards places on the net where they are still legal to buy from. I'm no expert but, my guess is the U.S. has the ability to close down websites that freely advertise Black Salve products on them if that would be legal for them to do so. Until then, people should probably just spend the $30 to $60 for the help. Be Well Always, Bonder Thomas Haugen Posted - 08/12/2012 : 11:15:02 Bonder, thanks for the info, and congratulations on accomplishing removal of the bulk of that tumor. Others who used black salve wrote about finding "roots" of the cancer cells going into the tissue. Has that been your experience? A surgical oncologist on another discussion board stated there are no such things as roots or tendrils of cancer extending outside the tumor mass, contradicting the statements of salve users. It's not a trivial matter as this issue determines the re-treatment protocol: apparently most users keep re-treating until no further reaction is observed - in other words even the deepest cancer cells have been expelled. And to be safe, an area around the wound would also need to be treated in case a cancer has spread. I have read about persons who used salve but months or years later the cancer came back in the same place. I'm wondering if they only applied salve once or twice and then allowed the skin to completely heal up, being overly anxious to complete the process. What are your plans? For the benefit of others on here you may want to say where you got the zinc chloride as it's not easy to find in small quantities. Take care, Tom bonder Posted - 08/12/2012 : 10:20:31 Thanx Tom !!! good to hear from you again.... I really don't have much to add for Black Salve protocol except that thanx to the youtube videos of Greg Caton, I was able to find out how to make a paste. The world of skin cancer owes a great deal to Mr. Caton... I followed instructions from the past and simply covered the (entire) mass from top to bottom. The 1st 12 hours were the worst and for me, having a few beers in the fridge kept me away from ingesting pain killers due to the fact that I am not much of a drinker these days lol... Initially, I used concentrated vitamin E for moisture but, after a bit more reviewing of websites, decided upon vaseline due to it's density and the fact that I was looking for my body to (push out) this area of flesh not nourish it. To my surprise, a few days later I was cleaning the area with warm water on a towel and (Plop) the yellow mass you saw on canceramerican.com just fell off. I stood there thinking to myself... " But, there is no gushing blood spewing all over my sink, just a bit of ugly goop and there is this big divit here on my face". Kind of strange that all of this tissue came off without a knife and the basis of the divit was in the form of a circle. So, as was written before me, I just cleaned off the area, let it rest a day and then reapplied some more to the other section that did not come off with the 1st try. I put more vaseline around it again and that area plopped off as well. I was left with a roundish section carved out well below the skin line that is not fun to look at but, much easier to take in than that huge mass making it's way into my nostril. The one thing I can attest to with this sort of salve is, (More Is Not Better) just as Greg Caton said... There was no need to goop this on an inch thick, simply covering the area totally was enough for the job. It did not surprise me that with an area this large, one section reacted right away and another did not. Addressing it in (sections) while painful, was appropriate. Tom the thing you have to understand is that this effort to research and act on this cancer issue was all done during a time that I was apparently taking in (way) too much seizure medicine than I needed and my thinking was so clouded, I needed to rethink things over and over again just to get through each day. For most of my life, my diet changed things enough so no medicines were needed until I had to start taking care of dad as he was fading away. A few weeks before I decided to go the black salve route, I made the decision to cut back the level of medication and slowly but surely my cognitive functions and memory became better and better. The combination of Dan's site with you,the doctors and authors I have on canceramerican.com, the knowledge of Greg Caton and The Gerson guidance for diet has supported my efforts to a tremendous degree during a time when once again, pills made me dulled to what was good for me just like the times of my youth in the medical facilities. As Americans, we need to understand what we are all up against with big medicine and in order to survive, must rely on each other's experiences to get by without digging a bigger hole for ourselves. It embarrasses me to think the leaders of our country have been allowing all this greed to go on for so long in the place where I was born. And now, other people trained here are doing the same thing in other countries... Be Well Always, Bonder (From Someone Else On This Site) REGARDING DEBRIDEMENT OF SCABROUS TISSUE I am a registered nurse who has worked with a Dermatologist. Here is what I recommend regarding removal of scabs during this process: First, know that avoiding scabrous tissue formation is by far the best in order to avoid scarring of the healed, healthy flesh. This is accomplished by keeping the treated area moist at all times or as much as humanly possible. This also increases the efficacy of the Vit. C treatment, too. GENTLY removing a soft, moist, loose scab is fine. Black or gray tissue is necrotic (dead cancerous tissue) and should be removed immediately as it contains toxins that can affect the emerging healthy tissue. If a scab is really hard, dry and firmly attached, I would not recommend pulling it off. Rather soften the area with long, warm soaks and continue with the Vit. C under a bandage keeping the area moist. Be patient, the scab will soften in a couple of days, max. I would recommend using 4" x 4" gauze cut and folded in half and apply to the treated area with a 1/8" perimeter to ensure that underlying undetected cancer is being reached. A double piece of gauze slows down evaporation and thus requires less frequent moistening. Your local drugstore has albeit somewhat costly occlusive dressings that are very effective at sealing the treated area and thus locking in the moisture for a longer period of time. You may get away with saturating the gauze once a day with this type of dressing. Ask the pharmacist where to find it if you do not see it on the wound care isle. Lastly, I would not use apple cider vinegar or H2O2 topical dressings as both will increase scabbing and it may be overkill because Vitamin C is already proven to cause tumor necrosis. Antibiotic ointments should not be necessary, either. Bacteria cannot grow in a highly acidic environment like ascorbic acid. Applying aloe or a purified petroleum based product like aquafor to the site is a fantastic idea. Most Dermatologists do not recommend antibiotic ointment application after removal of cancerous or pre-cancerous lesions anymore. Thomas Haugen Posted - 08/11/2012 : 12:40:39 No idea if this is legitimate: Quikheal http://www.altcancer.com/products/quikheal Tom Thomas Haugen Posted - 08/11/2012 : 11:27:01 "Moist wound treatment is the best way to ensure healing, and to reduce the risk of scabs and ultimately scarring. Under moist wound healing conditions, the formation of a crusty scab is prevented. This is because moist wound healing promotes growth and migration of new cells and ensures that essential proteins for closing your wound stay where they belong in order to do their repair job. Wounds that are left to dry in air will always create scabs, which make it hard for a wound to close itself, as under these dry conditions new skin tissue will have a tough time forming." http://www.elastoplast.com.au/magazine/health-and-protection/moist-wound-healing Thomas Haugen Posted - 08/11/2012 : 09:59:24 Bonder, those photos are amazing! You really nailed a huge mass of cancerous tissue. Did I miss it or have you explained what treatment you used? (Which brand of black salve, how much of the tumor you covered, how long you left it on, etc.?) How much pain? What is your next step? Some others who have used black salve mentioned undergoing a second treatment to ensure they got all the malignancy. Of course there is the issue of extreme pain when black salve is applied to an open wound and the need for prescription painkillers. For dealing with scars I'm trying to remember about a natural treatment I read about a while back. If it dredges up I'll let you know. Take care, Tom bonder Posted - 08/11/2012 : 05:54:59 Latest Pics During Time Of Removal At Bottom Of Canceramerican Website(natural cylindrical uniformity) http://www.canceramerican.com So anivoc, any ideas about recovering after bloodroot black salve to aid scarring? Be Well Always, Bonder bonder Posted - 05/22/2012 : 06:44:07 To dscochran99, I am happy to say that these (comments within our discussions) here have stimulated my thought process to search out modalities on my own. Personally, because people are not giving advice here, it is a much better platform for me. (no one here seems to be playing a doctor on the internet) Be Well Always, Bonder dscochran99 Posted - 05/21/2012 : 22:22:12 I agree that this website is not, in anyway, intended to be for the sole benefit of selling natural alternatives. It's a great resource for people struggling with the same problem and are looking for advise as well as encouragement. I have learned so much that has helped me decide to use Effudex as well as get answers about struggling through treament. No worries from here and good luck to you as well! dscochran99 Posted - 05/21/2012 : 22:18:03 quote: Originally posted by bonder I THINK THIS IS TRULY UNAMERICAN TO BUILD A SITE LIKE THIS GIVING HOPE TO THOSE OF US WITHOUT ANY. THE SHOWING OF ONE OR TWO SET OF PICTURES OF THE SAME PEOPLE SIMPLY TO GET PEOPLE TO BUY NATURAL PRODUCTS. NOW I HAVE WAITED TOO LONG FOR A DECENT HOPE OF SURGERY WITHOUT FACIAL DESTRUCTION. THESE HOME REMEDIES WORK GREAT FOR SELLERS AND NO ONE ELSE WHERE IS THE PROOF????? bonder Posted - 05/15/2012 : 06:13:33 To Tom and Dan... Started 5000 iu of D3 and now looking into alpha lipoc due to your previous (comments within our discussion) here. I am happy to say that these (comments within our discussions) here have stimulated my thought process to search out modalities on my own. Personally, because people are not giving advice here, it is a much better platform for me. (no one here seems to be playing a doctor on the internet) I am on the fence about choosing ANY peanut butter after reading this. "Back to our little cancer cell and Dr Budwig: she states there are many reasons for a cell to lose its charge, but peanut butter is a very common one. Can you believe it? Something as simple as peanut butter causing your cancer? Most peanut butters are hydrogenated. Why? To keep from separating, increase shelf life, and more flavorful. Go look at your natural peanut butters. Many are kept in the refrigerator section because that is how they keep them from separating." http://www.mnwelldir.org/docs/cancer1/budwig.htm 2 new videos about vitamin C and more at the top of canceramerican TYVM... Be Well Always, Bonder bonder Posted - 05/12/2012 : 11:18:27 Tom, I have discovered through the process of elimination that once again, medications have changed my perception and behaviors... So, regardless of a doctor's opinion, I cut back simply (one) pill each day and my alertness has changed dramatically according to a long time friend. Of course the downside to this is an inheirited influx of (abstract thinking) which often times wakes me up at night with ideas lol ! I am guessing your former recommendation of adding a little vodka to the topical mixture has to do with NanoMedicine and the diluting of compounds. My thoughts are to try and keep my face goop more thin so as to have better absorption. Here is what has been clinking around in my head lately (thank God, finally...) In my research, I've found that western medicine uses many materials to gain the most bang for the buck and that is why I was given the same chemical to thin my blood as is commonly used to kill rats in North America, just at a much smaller dose. So, the B17 theory AKA Laetrile is one with even more interest to me because it is not sold where I live. "At the Mexican border, U.S. Customs has permitted the entry of amygdalin for private use without benefit of even an affidavit for over a decade. Amygdalin is an extract of apricot kernels, which makes it a food supplement and nothing more. Under FDA guidelines, however, any substance that is used to treat a disorder can be classified a drug. In the U.S., it appears as though the FDA has the authority to label ANYTHING a "new drug" when a claim is made for that substance or even suggestions given as to how to take it. As of 2000, there are different State Statutes in the U.S. that make the the posession and use of Laetrile perfectly legal in some states and illegal in others. The FDA, however, has banned the commercialization of Laetrile in the U.S. by making it illegal to import it for resale, or to transport it from State to State. Therefore, If you are in the U.S., you will not be able to purchase Laetrile. 4) Q. What is the recommended daily dosage of vitamin B-17 for prevention? While exact amounts of B-17 for a "minimum daily requirement" in cancer surveillance have not been established, the basic concept is that sufficient daily B-17 may be obtained by following either of two suggestions: One, according to Dr. Krebs, eating all the B-17-containing fruits whole (seeds included), but not eating more of the seeds by themselves than you would be eating if you ate them in the whole fruit. Example: if you eat three apples a day, the seeds in the three apples are sufficient B-17. You would not eat a pound of apple seeds. Second, one peach or apricot kernel per 10 lbs. of body weight is believed to be more than sufficient as a normal safeguard in cancer prevention, although precise numbers may vary from person to person in accordance with individual metabolism and dietary habits. A 170-lb man, for example, might consume 17 apricot or peach kernels per day and receive a biologically reasonable amount of vitamin B-17. Two or three Vitamin B17 tablets (100 mg) is an acceptable supplemental dosage per day. And two important notes: Certainly, you can consume too much of anything. Too many kernels or seeds, for example, can be expected to produce unpleasant side effects. These natural foods should be consumed in biologically rational amounts (no more than 30 to 35 kernels per day). 5) Q. What is the difference between apricot seeds and B-17 100 mg tablets when used for prevention? Is one better than the other? Do I need to take both? Dr. Krebs always suggested that the raw form of vitamin B-17 (e.g. apricot kernels) is better than the purified form when used for prevention. This holds true for any other food: The raw form of vitamin C (e.g. grapefruits and oranges), for example, is also better than the pill. The difference between these two forms of vitamin B-17 is that the tablet is a more convenient method of administration; the seeds have a bitter taste to them and some people prefer the convenience of a tablet. Some people have dentures and simply find it difficult to chew on the seeds. Most people take both. It is completely safe to take both forms as many cancer patients take up to 4 times the amount of seeds recommended for a non-cancer sufferer, and up to 50 times more of the purified form (tablet form). It is not necessary to take both forms but, as stated above, you can get away with doing so while getting a reasonable amount of vitamin B-17. IMPORTANT: Cancer, patients, however, may require higher, more purified forms of vitamin B-17. It would be impossible to get the amount of vitamin B-17 needed to control existing cancer from the seeds alone. One would have to eat way too many seeds and this may, of course, produce unpleasant side effects (See Phase I and II metabolic therapies) http://www.worldwithoutcancer.org.uk/faq.html#4 http://www.worldwithoutcancer.org.uk/protocols.html 6) Q. I have been diagnosed with Cancer. Will vitamin B-17 work on any type of cancer? Dr. Krebs says "yes". Cancer cells all have the exact same characteristics. Cancer cells, no matter the type of cancer, are known as Trophoblasts (See Trophoblastic Thesis of Cancer). These cells contain an enzyme called Beta-glucosidase, also known as the unlocking enzyme. When Laetrile comes in contact with the enzyme beta-glucosidase, the Laetrile is broken down to form two molecules of glucose, one molecule of benzaldehyde and one molecule of hydrogen cyanide (HCN). Within the body, the cancer cell-and only the cancer cell-contains that enzyme. The key word here is that the HCN must be FORMED. It is not floating around freely in the Laetrile and then released. It must be manufactured. The enzyme beta-glucosidase, and only that enzyme, is capable of manufacturing the HCN from Laetrile thereby affecting the cancer cell-and only the cancer cell. If there are no cancer cells in the body, there is no beta-glucosidase. If there is no beta-glucosidase, no HCN will be formed from the Laetrile (See Amygdalin's Mode of Action)." Therefore, I now see why the Gerson therapy requires so many apples to be juiced daily because of the one element not spoken of much and that is the (cyanide) inside of apple seeds. Cyanide is also inside of the apricot seeds as well. All I knew about Cyanide before this was that it was used as a poison (Thank you Mr. Rockerfeller) your American medical schools have done their jobs quite well... According to my research, Cyanide is tolerated by the human body well at low doses but, CANCER CANNOT TOLERATE IT ! http://www.worldwithoutcancer.org.uk/faq.html#4 http://www.gaia-health.com/articles/000026-Laetril-Amygdalin-B17.shtml http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-mCHx-iyxOQ Chew on this a bit if you don't mind and get back to me. God it is great to be able to see past the fog finally ! Be Well Always, Bonder bonder Posted - 04/21/2012 : 15:02:00 For The Group.... As you can see, I look around on this site (for ideas and to help if I can). Personally,I have found that, topical use of ascorbic acid or orange oil halts some growth, (especially when using DMSO), baking soda will invade cancer cells and changing your diet to more alkaline helps quite a bit as well. If you feel like finding out why kids misbehave and why things may not work in your immune system, take out 60 mins and listen to a neurologist http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2963728494205235281#docid=-2384105525501310962 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2963728494205235281 http://www.whale.to/v/Aspartame_Truth.pdf Worse than when your parents were young, the grocery store has become a bit dangerous in the canned food section. Be Well Always, Bonder bonder Posted - 04/18/2012 : 07:23:45 Thank You Very Much Dan For The List, I myself am not very good at following unless it is right in front of me or sort of (Pressed Inside Of Me) lol. Now I'll be able to see it daily because my fridge has too many magnets on it already :) Be Well Always, Bonder dan Posted - 04/16/2012 : 18:50:10 Thanks Bonder for the very good link. For some reason, I love to see to-do lists. (I must be well trained.) Anyway, they have a good one under http://www.americanaci.org/what-you-must-do-first.html Here's part of it. "We recommend adding the Checklist below into your every day lifestyle at a bare minimum for cancer prevention, and especially if you're a cancer patient right now. 1. Use a shower filter to remove chlorine 2. Use non-flouride toothpaste 3. Use aluminum-free deodorant; and all non-toxic personal care items 4, Eat raw, organically grown food where possible 5. Juice fruits and veggies 3-4x/wk, esp. wheat and barley grass. (Cancer patient? Don't eat or juice fruit, see book for details) 6. Add the Budwig Protocol to your diet, especially if you have cancer 7. Add Apricot kernels to your diet, especially if you have cancer 8. Drink alkaline ionized water if at all possible instead of bottled water, especially if you have cancer 9. Add colloidal silver to your medicine chest and use it regularly" It turns out that I do about half of them (1,2,3,6 and parts of 4 and 8.) bonder Posted - 04/16/2012 : 17:52:25 Has anyone learned about this guy (Bob Wright) and his cancer group yet? http://www.americanaci.org/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yZn1XtDgex0 Seems like a decent enough guy and is open to the alternatives... Be Well Always, Bonder bonder Posted - 04/11/2012 : 07:07:58 Tom, Although it may be hard to see from outside my brain, I do have a method to my madness here lol... The use of dental floss has already given me the success that was suggested and there is hardly a redness left behind at ground zero. In my opinion,the reason for the (single area) of success on a mass this large (which by conventional means would have been cut,dug, the skin opened to probably 30% more or even wider and then used as a sewing point with another patch of my skin is in my estimation due to the fact that I went beyond the first layer of skin on (one) side initially... I decided if chemicals were good enough to put into a person's veins, then they were good enough to put into an external cancerous tumor that would have just been cut off anyway. The difference was I wanted to see if the polar solvent could do as advertized with the ascorbic and it did. However, it did very quickly on one part that was cut open and not much at all on the other part. What used to be referred to as "polar solvents" could revert cancer cells into normal ones which is one of the reasons I jumped onto the DMSO wagon even though there was better in vitro than in vivo findings Apparently there is a more (greener) effort going on as we speak and this award has been taken of the shelf. ( I would not be surprised if it was Boik that is somehow involved)... https://www.innocentive.com/ar/challenge/9932717 Here is why I decided to lean a bit towards The Italian to see if the fast results were true for a treatment with 2 relatively safe compounds. "The easy way is to use a trojan horse that will carry the sodium bicarbonate straight into the cancer cells. Two methods are available, suggested by the author of this web site. One is insulin potentiation. The insulin makes the cancer cells starved for sugar, then a glucose solution,(Like honey or molasses) mixed with a sodium bicarbonate solution, is infused intravenously. The cancer cells greedily absorb the glucose/sodium bicarbonate solution, which will destroy the fungus in them instantly. To my best knowledge, the method has not yet been used anywhere." "An easier and simpler way is to mix DMSO with the sodium bicarbonate solution, and apply it intravenously. The DMSO will bond with the sodium bicarbonate, and lead it straight into cancer cells, because DMSO seeks out cancer cells selectively. This is a safe and inexpensive protocol. The first clinic that is introducing this brand new therapy in the USA is the CAMELOT CANCER CARE LLC clinic in Tulsa, Oklahoma. As of June 2, 2007, the preliminary results of this protocol are extremely encouraging." http://www.holisticcancersolutions.com/sodium_bicarbonate_report.htm So,others have decided that the DMSO/baking soda protocol have shown success inside of internal organ tumors and because I am through the top layer and am gaining a widening of the effect I now want to see if the (Trojan Horse Protocol) is as fast as advertized if not, I can surely go back to the ascorbic/DMSO. It may be my imagination but, it almost seems like since the NAC, when I do my daily (tongue press) test, the inside mass is less pronounced. I think I personally will keep the NAC for my insides as I like the idea of having a proven Macho-antioxidant in there Good point about the hotter temperature element, I'll be looking into that thanx. The other chemicals will have to wait lol... Be Well Always, Bonder Thomas Haugen Posted - 04/10/2012 : 20:43:58 Bonder, I believe that unless you come across something that claims to revert cancer cells back into being normal cells (I don't know what) then all those cancer cells are going to have to die. My hope has always been that some cells killed by the immune system are fragmented and carried away through the bloodstream, and then the topicals kill the ones on the surface and they slough off. You might be tempted to try self-surgery, but I don't think that's a good idea. Pinching off the blood flow could result in gangrene or MRSA and then you're dead. You've talked about DMSO and there's no doubt it's a good carrier to move stuff through all the layers of the skin to what's beneath. They often put DMSO in bloodroot salve. If your topical with various ingredients is not having any effect on that other part of the tumor, seems to me you would want to be trying new ingredients. Who knows, vitamin C with bicarb above pH 8? Alpha Lipoic Acid with bicarb above pH 8? After watching Dr. Michael Lisanti, the notion of using NAC as a topical popped into my head - just a wild thought. So many things kill cancer cells, we've got to keep trying. Since part of yours is protruding, what about gentle heat to 108 degrees? What is it, 108 kills cancer cells, 111 kills all cells? Just a thought, not a recommendation. bonder Posted - 04/10/2012 : 17:39:22 Ok gotcha.. This is the (normal) sodium chloride .9 used for irrigation and so far it seems to just clean and not have any other obvious affect. So, I am wondering if you think that my position about (wanting the thing to die, not heal up) has any merit? Lets assume for the heck of it, that I was able to get a piece of dental floss around this thing like I did with a growth on my gut that obviously had blood flow but had not changed in decades... All I did was follow the instructions of another to restrict the blood flow of it for a couple days so it would fall off and die leaving just a level pink spot behind. The lack of nutrients to the mass signaled the body to let it die and then regrow skin afterwards. It seems to me trying to treat this thing like friend is not in my scope and if alkalinity is its enemy then that is my friend in order to kill it. But, you make a good point about the plasma as so far, I've been allowing this thing to bleed some in the morn, then clean it and watch as the fluid oozes out and widens the hole in the mass. You might remember that I decided to cut a line in a portion of it after razoring off a small slice to see how this thing would heal itself (and boy did it heal itself quickly !), with the idea of getting any sort of topical into the skin faster like with the ascorbic. As you can see in my site pics, there is a definite round lower area that has remained about the same whereas the upper area has been caving through. It is my opinion that is due to the fact that not only did I abrade the tumor, I cut through the first layer of skin with conviction so as to open the mass for more applications while keeping it clean and without infection. Truthfully, with all the acidity rolling around in there, I could probably paste a cow pie to it and not have any issues lol! To continue, I am stuck between just plodding on or buying a great deal of salicylic acid like what is in wart removers and Curaderm just to get to (skin level) in order to be where most others here are in terms of growth height regardless of the width. See, if this skin regrows as fast as it did, then it really does not matter what sort of solvent or tincture I use in order to get to ground zero because my skin will repair quite well unless I change its structure via a large knife scar or perhaps a flame or freezing action. Personally, I believe a lot of that is due to the diet I have followed over decades and no coffee or soda pop. There was nothing special about the skin on either side of my family that all drank that sort of thing. So, should the outside tumor be treated as something that you want to die or, something you want to heal and why? Be Well Always, Bonder Thomas Haugen Posted - 04/10/2012 : 15:57:56 Bonder, I'm not sure about the sodium bicarbonate. I've read in various places that topically it will get cancer cells above pH of 8 and kill them. The body has these mechanisms to tightly regulate pH but I'm not sure if they function down at the cellular level, meaning they might interfere or cancel out the higher pH. Also, plasma or other fluid oozing out the wound could carry the bicarb away from the cancer cells. If none of that hinders your plan, then I hope you have good luck if you decide to try it. My scab has gotten noticeably smaller lately. I pull it off and re-treat whenever it gets soft from washing, or about every other day otherwise. I leave it uncovered at all times, except when I have to use makeup. If and when the skin completely grows back and closes the wound, I guess I'll continue to use a penetrating topical for a while after that. About the saline you use for cleansing, do you feel it is chemically killing surface cells? You know, like salt in a wound? I have no idea whether that would be good or bad. With a lesion as large as yours, it doesn't seem like a good idea to let it heal over, even if it would. As I understand it, in almost every instance of treating these cancers, the healing may proceed excruciatingly slowly, but it should proceed sort of similar to any other wound or burn, where new skin seems to appear around the perimeter and gradually develops closer and closer to the center. That is what is happening with my biggest BCC. Tom bonder Posted - 04/10/2012 : 15:08:28 Tom, After running into the word "ALKALINE" in my research like mosquitoes at an evening softball game, I've changed my external protocol to sodium bicarbonate and carrier for the total tumor now that I have opened a large cavity in the epidermis. Also, my plan is to keep my pH in the 7's for sure while continuing the juicing along with Niacin and Potassium supplements. I am a believer in removing scabs for open wounds but this time it is more in order to have an expanding access point for liquid treatments that is degrading tumor height and width in order to reach the root. "It's best to remove loose skin or scabs as these delay the healing process and harbor infection." Dr. George D. Winter's wound care study showed that the regrowth of skin over a wound (epithelialization) was twice as fast in those wounds covered with a film dressing. His wound care case study showed that wounds that were kept moist healed in approximately 12 to 15 days while the same wound when exposed to the air healed in about 25 to 30 days. http://www.squidoo.com/heal-open-wounds-faster But,the problem I have bouncing around in my head is,I don't want this tumor tissue to (heal) I want it to (die)! So, while I continue to moisten then pull the scab in the morning and cleanse with saline, the idea of covering it (even if I could without some sort of adhesive) makes me feel that the air and mother nature especially the sun are not getting their fair shot that way right? I mean, it is one thing to have a wound just a bit below the surface and want it to regrow upwards and then blend but, during these initial stages I feel like standard regrowth is the last thing in the sequence I want to accomplish until I am down far enough to kill via the fibroblasts etc near the root. I realize I am signaling things to heal better from the change in diet inside but, it is also part of the plan to kill cancer cells from the outside with alkalinity... What do you think? Be Well Always, Bonder bonder Posted - 04/10/2012 : 09:58:00 UBET DAN :) Here Is Why I Don't Like A lot About Modern Medicine And Finally, We Seem To Be Reading Much More About What Is Truly Going On Behind The Scenes.... http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/04/120410093353.htm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=730QNlAmLnM&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PL32E9D5B661A5FCDB Y'Know, my dog gone site has a good amount of news there for cancer and updates pretty well. "GOOGLE, IF IT COULD COOK I'D MARRY IT" Be Well Always, Bonder dan Posted - 04/09/2012 : 21:45:16 Bonder, I'm honored for the link and the banner. Thanks! bonder Posted - 04/07/2012 : 13:42:26 LMAO, I WAS USING THE MUSIC WHILE I RESEARCHED BUT, THE DAMN THING IS A VIDEO-HAVEN NOW SO, I KILLED IT. THANX. PICS ARE NOW THE SMALLER CHOICES AVAILABLE WITH THE FREE BLOGGER PROGRAM. AS I SAID BEFORE, I REALLY DON'T EXPECT A REAL PERMANENT CHANGE UNTIL THE CBII THING OR IF LUCKY, MAYBE CURADERM. BUT, IN THE MEANTIME, IF YOU START AT THE TOP PIC, YOU CAN SEE A BASICALLY OBLONG AND ROUNDED TUMOR. AS YOU WORK YOUR WAY DOWN, IT APPEARS TO ME THAT THERE IS TISSUE CHANGE AND A (CAVING IN) IN THE RED AND EXPOSED AREA. ALSO, SINCE THE NAC, AS A RESULT OR NOT, THERE SEEMS TO BE A (LIFTING) OF THE MASS WHEN YOU COMPARE THE 1ST PIC WITH THE LAST. I REALIZE IT IS A DIFFERENT ANGLE SO, JUST MAYBE TAKE MY WORD FOR IT. ANVIOC'S PICS WERE THE FIRST EXAMPLE OF ESCHAROTICS I HAD SEEN AND THEY MOSTLY ALL GIVE THE WIDE-REDNESS AND THEN THE ROUND PLUG MASS THAT FALLS OUT OVER TIME. AS THESE ARE A BIT MORE SUPERFICIAL ACCORDING TO STUDY THAN WHAT I HAVE, I DON'T EXPECT THE SAME RESULTS ( ALTHOUGH IT WOULD BE NICE LOL). IF LISANTI IS RIGHT AND THERE IS AS MUCH OF A REDUCTION IN SIZE RESULTING FROM NAC USE AS FROM HIS EXPERIENCE, PERHAPS I MIGHT GET LUCKY... RIGHT NOW, ALL I CAN SEE HAPPENING IS MY IMMUNE SYSTEM CLEANING THINGS UP FROM THE INSIDE AND A WHITTLING DOWN OF TISSUE CELLS EITHER FROM MASS DESTRUCTION COMING FROM A SOLVENT MATERIAL OR THE INDEED COMBINING OF THE ASCORBIC WITH DMSO AS A SORT OF DYNAMIC ACCELERATOR. MY THOUGHT IS THAT IF I CAN GET FAR ENOUGH DOWN WITHIN THE NEXT 30 DAYS AND WHATEVER I AM USING CAN GET INTO THE ROOTS AREA, THAT SAME UNDERNEATH CYLINDER MOST PEOPLE (PUSH OUT) AND TRY TO AVOID (PULLING OUT) TOO EARLY MAY BE THERE INTACT SO THAT IT CAN BE EITHER LIFTED OR WEAKENED AND THEN PASSED THROUGH MY SYSTEM. AFTER READING ABOUT GREGG CATTON, I JUST DO NOT KNOW WHAT TO THINK ABOUT BLOODROOT AND ZINC CHLORIDE. I NEED TO FIGURE OUT IF DR. CHAM THINKS CURADERM WON'T WORK FOR (ALL) SPOTS WITH SURGERY BEFOREHAND OR JUST THOSE THAT HAVE DISTURBED THE SUB-DERMAL AREA. I MEAN, IF ALL THE CAVEMEN DID WAS SHAVE OFF THE TOP, PERHAPS THE UNDERNEATH AREA IS STILL INTACT AND MIGHT NOT HAVE LEAKED ALL OVER? SO, WHO KNOWS? I PUT BOIK'S THINGS FURTHER UP ON THE SITE NOW THAT I'M ACTUALLY REMEMBERING WHO WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN MY EFFORTS. HERE IS A REVIEW FOR THE BOOK ON CANCERAMERICAN.COM ONE CAN JUST DONATE TO AND GET... This review is from: Natural Compounds in Cancer Therapy: Promising Nontoxic Antitumor Agents From Plants & Other Natural Sources (Paperback) This book is one of the best books I have ever read, on any subject. In my opinion, this book is an absolute MUST for all cancer patients and their advocates. Every doctor should read this book, as well as every cancer research scientist. I first began researching natural substances and their effect on cancer about four years ago, when my then 22-year-old brother was first diagnosed with a cancerous brain tumor. What I quickly learned was that the vast majority of people disseminating information on the subject were complete phonies, out to charge cancer patients outrageous prices for supplements that were unlikely to do them any good. Of the small percentage who actually seemed genuine, very few of these seemed to have an extensive knowledge of the subject, and fewer still were aware (or even concerned) of the science behind their recommendations. Of those who did seem to know the subject well, John Boik clearly stood out. It would not be an understatement to say that John Boik knows 1000X more about this subject than anyone else on the planet. Unlike most who have written on this subject, Boik does not take an “us against them” attitude regarding alternative vs. conventional medicine. Some of the most exciting research presented in his book actually comes from combining natural compounds with conventional chemotherapy. And, John Boik does NOT sell supplements or treatments of any kind. This alone scored him many points in my book. Boik really takes it to the next level with this new book. Where his first book discussed several hundred compounds, this new book narrows the focus down to the 38 compounds he believes to have the most potential for benefit in cancer treatment. Nearly all of these 38 compounds are available commercially, and many are quite inexpensive. No claims are made whatsoever; Boik clearly states that much more research is needed throughout the book. However, in this reviewer’s mind, any cancer patient wanting to try alternative treatment in combination with conventional would be very wise to use a combination of natural compounds from this book. The science behind doing so is far, far greater than any alternative treatment out there. Boik’s general premise throughout the book is that cancer should be attacked from every possible angle. According to Boik, there are seven procancer events that should be targeted. These seven events are: induction of genetic instability, abnormal expression of genes, abnormal signal transduction, abnormal cell-to-cell communication, induction of angiogenesis, invasion and metastasis, and immune evasion. Each of these presents a potential target for treatment. Boik’s theory states that all seven should be targeted. This is usually not done with conventional therapies. Conventional treatment generally targets only one of these events. It may be possible to effectively target all seven events with a combination of natural compounds. This book is divided into three parts. Parts one and two examine cancer at the cellular level, and cancer at the level of the organism, respectively. After reading parts one and two, the reader will come away with a far greater understanding of what cancer is, how it comes to be, how solid tumors are formed, etc. This gives the patient and their advocates a far better understanding of what exactly this illness is they are dealing with. For medical professionals and scientists, this will likely be easy material, but well worth reading. For the layperson, parts one and two will be more challenging. I would guess that the more science one has had in school, the greater their understanding and enjoyment of parts one and two. However, even readers such as myself who have had no science beyond basic high school courses will get a lot out of these two sections, and come away with a much greater understanding of cancer. I simply skimmed areas that were “over my head” and digested areas that were clear to me. I came away having learned a lot from these two sections. Part three is the most enjoyable, exciting part of the book in my opinion. This is the section that discusses in detail the 38 compounds most likely to have a positive effect on cancer. Part three opens with my favorite chapter in the book. This chapter discusses the exciting possibilities of synergistic interactions between natural compounds, and designing combinations of natural compounds. It also discusses how tentative doses are arrived at. The remaining chapters discuss each of the 38 most promising compounds in depth. Supporting research is presented for each and referenced at the end of each chapter. If any negative studies exist for a particular compound, these are presented as well. This book is incredibly well referenced, so anyone wanting to read abstracts or the actual studies will be able to, as most can be found on MEDLINE. The final chapter of the book discusses natural compounds and their effect on chemotherapy and radiotherapy. This is a very important subject. Many of the compounds could cause chemotherapy and / or radiation to be more effective, and some have solid evidence supporting their use. Others have the possibility of protecting cancer from the effects of chemotherapy and radiation. These are both discussed in detail in the final chapter. The vast appendices contain supplemental information for various chapters, chemical structure diagrams for the 38 and other compounds, and information regarding dose calculations and predictive models, topics most intended for medical professionals and scientists. This book is the BIBLE on the subject of how natural substances effect cancer. I strongly recommend this book to all cancer patients considering any form of alternative treatment and to their advocates as well. I predict that combinations of compounds discussed in this book will prove to be so useful, that even the medical establishment will embrace their use and these combinations will no longer be looked at as “alternative” treatments. I cannot stress the importance of this book enough. If you, a friend or loved one has cancer, you should not be without this book. Note: while I haven't checked in on him lately, he had an informative website last time I checked. It was this book that allowed me to make a picture out of the puzzle that one is faced with when first diagnosed. Love, hope, success, health and joy to us all! Claudia HERE IS HIS 501 NON PROFIT http://www.newearthbiomed.org I AM CONSIDERING BECOMING INVOLVED... WOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EMMA IS WEARING OUT HER LIPS AND SHE IS ONLY MY READING VOICE DROID.... direct-acting compounds http://www.jbc.org/content/285/45/34557.full http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=+direct-acting+compounds%2BCANCER&oq=+direct-acting+compounds%2BCANCER&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=hp.3...444l3659l4l5744l6l6l0l0l0l0l116l604l3j3l6l0.frgbld.&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=3226d37ade666d03&biw=1230&bih=558 Synergistic Apoptosis Induced by Combination of Luteolin and EGCG http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=combination+of+luteolin+and+EGCG&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart&sa=X&ei=_vCAT-3HEoGhtwfv3IHLDw&sqi=2&ved=0CCcQgQMwAA http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1749-6632.2011.06104.x/full I WONDER IF DAN THINKS IT IS OK THAT I HAVE A BANNER OF THIS SITE ON MY SITE? I HOPE SO. BLOGGER IS WELL VISITED AND IT HAS MADE IT A HECKUVA LOT EASIER FOR ME TO KEEP THINGS IN ORDER AS I BATTLE THIS MENACE.... BE WELL ALWAYS, BONDER Thomas Haugen Posted - 04/07/2012 : 11:14:42 Bonder, your http://canceramerican.blogspot.com/ webpage chokes my computer. Maybe make the photos a little smaller? Please, kill the music. Thomas Haugen Posted - 04/07/2012 : 11:12:29 Bonder, I don't know. Is the raw wound slightly depressed like it appears? If so, that would seem to be a slightly positive indication that cancer cells are being eliminated. There is a technical term I can't remember for the depressed area that is present after the cancer is gone and the wound has completely healed. That is a desirable goal. Maybe you should look around and find anivoc's photos - maybe some of his lesions would be comparable to yours. Also, he or another man has put up a YouTube that consists of a slideshow of lesions healing. If I remember, black salve search may locate it. bonder Posted - 04/07/2012 : 08:24:30 Tom, I put my latest pic at the bottom of the site. Perhaps you can tell me if you look at this as progress? (pics getting a bit graphic now). I have considered the fact that many solvents would burn through human skin however.... I'd appreciate some feedback. Be Well Always, Bonder bonder Posted - 04/04/2012 : 15:03:50 Tom, I'd become aware of the Liposomal element from the vid-link I set out earlier here about the family that insisted on vitamin C... But, after looking into it some more, I decided to put a (Liposome Basics Video Guide) under a news reel for Nanomedicine&Liposomes. Also this, http://www.fiercebiotech.com/story/nanomedicine-standout-spotlights-first-human-cancer-data/2012-04-04 The info is just under The Lisanti Lecture Video about the mitochondria and cheap cancer drugs on www.canceramerican.com The thing is Tom, if Lisanti is correct about being able to predict Cancer regrowth 20 years in advance at diagnosis, then there are two ways this could be used. I. (The Honest way)whereby a strategy is used to block future metastasis and suffering OR... II. (The American way) of creating more expensive tests and experts to give Latin names to testing and results that end up back to mustard gases and passing up the obvious fact that more doctors needed increased learning in the area of nutrition decades ago... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mammalian_target_of_rapamycin Well thankfully, I guess it is just like you indicated above, now the commonplace can receive Mega-dosing without the needle and make it at home if they have a mind to. Based upon his analysis,Lisanti thinks the lack of proper antioxidants in diet is the cause of many issues especially as we age... Scientists had previously believed that the ability of antioxidants to protect against cancer was mainly due to protecting the DNA of cells from damage. In this new study it was proven that these antioxidants actually worked by preventing cancer cells from replicating. http://www.wellnessresources.com/health/articles/vitamin_c_and_nac_slow_the_spread_of_cancer/ There is no doubt in my mind that in order to battle with this menace, people need to consider their diet and go beyond the walls of Hospitals and Medical offices in order to win !! Be Well Always, Bonder Thomas Haugen Posted - 04/02/2012 : 16:40:26 Bonder, that's interesting information about vitamin C. It cleared up a question I've had about oral vitamin C (not intravenous vitamin C) which is whether a higher concentration of C can be transported into the cells from the plasma. "Virtually all tissues concentrate ASC at levels well above the plasma ASC concentration." Just as there are processes that tightly regulate plasma pH between 7.35 and 7.45, another set of processes tightly regulates plasma vitamin C levels below the number 220. Huge doses of C cause diarrhea but if that problem could be overcome so a higher dosage of C could get into the bloodstream, I have been speculating that certain cells including immune system cells might uptake more C into the cells, thereupon using it and also protecting it from the plasma regulatory processes. Information about liposomal vitamin C. (LVC) Previously mentioned plant phytochemicals such as silymarin and curcumin being almost insoluble and they could be made more bioavailable as liposomes or phytosomes. Also mentioned the chemical piperine, from black pepper, enhances the absorption of various other substances by changing the mechanisms by which cell membranes transport the substances into cells. That’s where liposomal vitamin C comes into play. My scanty research indicates the touters are claiming LVC passes through the intestines into the bloodstream more easily: “Increased Absorption - Regular vitamin C is absorbed at approximately 19%, the balance remains in the gastrointestinal tract to attract water and loosen the bowels. Liposomal Vitamin C has superior absorption, providing near IV results with an oral dosage! Which means, you can get incredible amounts into the bloodstream without the risk of diarrhea which can occur before you absorb as little as 1,500 mg into the bloodstream from regular tablets or capsules.” But more importantly they claim the fatty part of the liposome is more compatible with the cell walls so the LVC passes more easily into each cell, thereby increasing the amount of vitamin C in each cell. Supposedly the immune cells that uptake vitamin C and convert it into peroxides to damage cancer cells would benefit from this process. Since body processes are constantly trying to remove excess vitamin C from plasma and keep it below 220, moving the vitamin C from the plasma into the cells supposedly preserves it from those processes. I was wondering why people are making their own LVC but then I read: “liposomal versions of anything are ludicrously expensive” and a quick perusal of the market confirms LVC is comparatively big bucks. Homemade Liposomal C http://www.pdazzler.com/archives/62 Better recipes: http://www.quantumbalancing.com/liposomalC.htm bonder Posted - 04/02/2012 : 11:58:14 Tom, ever spoken to those that move away from ASC treatments quickly? WHY VITAMIN C MAY NOT HAVE WORKED FOR EVERYONE... I thought it a good idea to share a bit why many people might give up on Ascorbic acid therapies etc. Hyperglycemia has been shown to inhibit ASC transport. This inhibition seems somewhat paradoxical given the evidence suggesting that insulin promotes both ASC and dehydroascorbic acid (DHA) uptake by cells. The inhibition of ASC uptake by hyperglycemia was demonstrated in vitro in the absence of insulin and may not, therefore, be important in normal physiology. But, if a high plasma ASC in IDDM is uncoupled from insulin replacement then the hyperglycemic inhibition could have substantial implications for uptake. Hyperglycemia is also known to enhance renal ASC losses http://www.jacn.org/content/17/2/105.full.pdf Many people won't pick up much vitamin C with their current body chemistry and this fellow in this video explains it a bit with low PH which once again speaks for a more alkaline body chemistry to fight any sort of cancer. He also is a proponent of a (distilled water wash out) to get better. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_3lHARRvbM&feature=related Be Well Always, Bonder bonder Posted - 04/01/2012 : 23:48:02 Tom, Thanx again for the advice, I'll be sure to add the words to my lifestyle now that some of these healing reactions have passed, the sort of things I truly have not personally experienced for a very long time and I really don't believe in coincidence any longer... I know a chiropractor that I've not seen for years but, I do not know if he is a (network) type. As you can imagine from my posts, I am not very fond of what I have found out about parts or our country and if it was just something that occurred back in the 60's I could have written it off to ignorance due to lack of experience but, These large players know exactly what they are doing and have been doing it for decades upon decades according to what I was told in my younger years and have found out in looking over my father. I found myself in a quandry some times about the fact that I had the experience of (cheeking) pills when thrown into the white rooms with pads on the walls as a child during my stays in the different wards because even as a youngster, I knew that I was acting uncontrolled and strange. The only answer was the new pills given to me. This is why, when a older man with true control for years is given medication and starts to act strange (after) the taking of them instead of just weak like beforehand, my experience told me that believing these medical (experts) was a bit ignorant and it was his parkinson's disease I wanted him looked after for not some new behavioral issues only. I recommend to anyone with family, especially older parents that they get both kinds of P.O.A. documents signed for them now that American health care is going to change severely. Once a patient is within the grips of these drugs, they will be helpless to know what is happening to them at times and then the labeling of behavior issues will start. No doctor has diagnosed me with anything requiring psycho-meds for over 30 years by some coincidence and I have always been the sort not to mess with but, chose more subtle ways of dealing with the aggressiveness of others. If I were on these pills I have looked into over the years, I would have lost the control for decisions just like the blonde pharmaceutical rep on the videos of my website says caused her to quit her career. So, on the one hand, I hated times of my childhood and the ways it started me to think about myself and others but, after reading the case files few other than government workers had access to when trying to develop a strategy for my father, it was clear to me that I had a true battle to plan for knowing how many doctors deal with those having neuro-issues be they truly mental or not. Expensive medications sometimes paid for by insurance policies were the main remedies rather than truly looking into the depth of the problems which has created a new sort of (feeble-minded) citizen and the (dumbing down) of society that soon thereafter will cause people to fall ill to the toxic effects of the pills. With the older people, it speeds up the process of getting them off the books... When I decided to start with DMSO, after reading about it, I was making quite sure that there were no obvious bad side-effects while still under a bit of a fog periodically because I am used to observing changes in others and myself. I was on a plane many times over the years because my sister called me and told me that she was tired of dealing with my father and his problems. As luck would have it, she ended up moving awhile after and when I was in Florida, I asked my father several times if he wanted to move back home or stay in the sunshine? Dad was a piano bar singer in his spare time and liked the idea of having an audience around him in the assisted living place we found for him. Something I doubt would have been part of his last years in a full-fledged mental hospital under pills designed for those sort of patients. The only problem was, once again in our lives, the first place in Florida he was in had thieves that knew where his checkbook was and I had to put them in jail and get the bank to make good on their insurance of his funds kept with them. Americans must understand that the medical community is not full of true philanthropists at many levels and while it is good to have the practitioners in an emergency, it is not so good once one becomes part of the system. But, the law can stop a great deal of the greed if people are prepared... Be Well Always, Bonder Thomas Haugen Posted - 03/31/2012 : 09:09:41 Bonder, that's a touching story and one that speaks well of your perseverance to keep on keeping on. We are products of our genes and our environment and sometimes it's difficult to tell which is which but regardless, here we are in the present, aware that we are our parents' children and we grew up with all those experiences and all those insults to our health. Frequently when we read about someone who has overcome cancer the hard way, the person speaks about the importance of forgiveness, not only going back and forgiving all those who have wronged us in the past but also forgiving ourselves for all the wrongs we have done or chances we passed up to do the right thing. I have been practicing on this for some years now but even so, practice does not make perfect in this instance and I have to keep going back repeatedly and doing the forgiving all over again. One technique that was given to me is to think carefully about the past event and then say very consciously to myself, "that happened. I cannot do anything about that now. I forgive myself." If I'm alone I say that aloud. The mind has a way of believing itself, especially when you're saying something that is so true, so the matter gets put to rest, at least for a while. Forgiveness is a stress reliever and I'm sure you've read about the stress connection to cancer, but there is also a physical connection in the spine. Something else I learned later in life is that the brain and the spine are all one unit encased in the same sheaf of protective fibers, and memories are stored in the spine as well as in the brain. At least the memory manifests itself in the spine even though it may be stored up in the brain. The spine can become healthier when the stress of bad memories is resolved. In my 40s I was stooped over and already losing height when an amazing coincidence took me to a Network chiropractor. Just by touching me at certain points along the spine she very gradually caused me to unconsciously bring up and let go of the bad memories stored in my spine. It took a couple of years to get to the deepest memories from when I was a small child, and I never did consciously remember those things, just a flood of relief and compassion for myself. At my next physical I had gotten more than an inch taller and I had the nurse remeasure me just to be sure. The muscles around my spine relaxed as those memories released and allowed my spine to take a more normal curvature. Network is the second-best money I ever spent, after the money I bought the license to wed my wife. bonder Posted - 03/31/2012 : 07:30:56 Starting in the late 1800s The owners of America needed cheap labor and being as though the slavery of people kidnapped from their homeland in Africa was frowned upon after 1865 a large effort was made to allow people from Europe to come to a place where there were "Castles in the sky" and freedom from poverty. If you and your family could make the journey over the ocean in the giant steel tubes that rocked back and forth and threw you from side to side without broken bones or death, then all you had to do was make it past Ellis Island which was not so much a place to keep out disease but in reality, a laboratory for the Eugenics directors to decide if you were fit to live here. The Oligarchs did not want your Brother,Sister,Son or Daughter if they would not breed well... You see, Between the Rothchilds,Rockerfellers,Morgans and Carnegies of the central banks and oil, there was really not much left over for new Americans to start... I was born in NYC as was my father and his father before him. My Grandmother was one of the Russian Fiancees that stood before the wall of men looking for their Fiancees whom they had never met but, if given the flower by a man would be married on Ellis soon thereafter. As a man, the problem was if you brought your children aunt or uncle with you that you swore to protect on the trip and they were afraid, did not understand things or were slow during testing, they quite possibly could be sent back alone to die in WWI or WWII. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCYsHs481Qs The one percent that owned America only wanted the finest stock to be let in to do their labor... Many think that Eugenics stopped before the 1930's but, it has just evolved into a medical money-making industry led by giant drug companies, hospitals and insurance companies that rotate people and their illnesses depending upon the capital needs of those same entities. Due to the fact that my father knew about some of this as a contract Attorney,he was able to take me away from the children's homes and mental wards where they shifted me from drug to drug due to my "severe emotional issues" that by coincidence occurred shortly after I was given my 1st pill after my head injury. So, as an adult, even through the cloud of things I learned to adapt to, I remembered that most doctors are egotists in white coats and certainly not gods of medicine... The funny thing is, when you get your medical label, you start believing that you are a part of the unwanted and start to think those types can be your only friends which can lead you into the same sort of trouble that drug addicts and violent types get into. That changed just as my father thought it would. When my father became ill,because of my disabilities, if I saw him every day at his place as he was I would be spending more time in emergency wards than with him and living as far as I did was out of the question but,living close was the answer for a while anyway... There came a point when he could no longer be alone at home and like I said, I would not be able to survive under the same roof as he was regardless of my depth of feelings because it was those very feelings that would cause my end and then who would care about him? So, the last thing in the world I wanted to happen to my father did happen and that was to allow him under the constant care of the medical system. But before that, there was a nurse in sunny Florida that my seldom seen sister knew of near where she lived that had a large house and cared for the elderly. She had a holistic methodology and all I had to do is to tell her what she needed to act like when my father got too ornery because I knew even through the fog, he would want to protect her from harm. It seemed like the perfect solution and hey, if I wanted a place to visit, Florida was nice, Or so I thought... Be Well Always, Bonder. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Carnegie http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J.P._Morgan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_D._Rockefeller “Well first of all, tell me: Is there some society you know that doesn’t run on greed? You think Russia doesn’t run on greed? You think China doesn’t run on greed? What is greed? Of course, none of us are greedy, it’s only the other fellow who’s greedy. The world runs on individuals pursuing their separate interests. The great achievements of civilization have not come from government bureaus. Einstein didn’t construct his theory under order from a bureaucrat. Henry Ford didn’t revolutionize the automobile industry that way. In the only cases in which the masses have escaped from the kind of grinding poverty you’re talking about, the only cases in recorded history, are where they have had capitalism and largely free trade. If you want to know where the masses are worse off, worst off, it’s exactly in the kinds of societies that depart from that. So that the record of history is absolutely crystal clear, that there is no alternative way so far discovered of improving the lot of the ordinary people that can hold a candle to the productive activities that are unleashed by the free-enterprise system.” #8213; Milton Friedman SOMETHING TELLS ME MR. FRIEDMAN WAS RIGHT ABOUT THE RUNNING OF COUNTRIES BUT, NOT THE LONGEVITY OF THEM... bonder Posted - 03/30/2012 : 11:07:45 If permitted, I will tell you why (Americans) at least MUST start to realize that a society run by oligarchs is not in the best interests of the people and while the cohesion may not seem obvious for this forum, I feel a duty to speak of it. While it is true that the labor laws do help the disabled, one must consider why?????? It all comes down to money.... If workers have nowhere to go when they become injured or sick, they often times feed off of insurance or the public services. Take a look sometime at the difference between those who are bagging your groceries or perhaps mopping up the floors of retail establishments late at night. In my neighborhood, they are the ones that look or sound a little "funny" to us... Many of these people would have formerly lived a less stressful life with public assistance and taken out to exercise, do some rehab or other things offered by skilled consultants. Some will argue that this helps them to gain some sort of self-esteem rather than living with only their kind of folk and being looked after by professionals. These people were never going to get better, they were permanently disabled. I was around some of them when I was a kid in the hospitals they sent me to after my allergic reaction to the pills. I think I have spoken before of my cowboy friend not appreciating wet boots.... Today, they have become tantamount to the English "Serf" of yesteryear. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serfdom While I was seeing over my father, I was required to deal with the medical oligarchy and their checks and balances. Having been brought up in a household where municipal attys and judges were common visitors, I became aware of the fact that when one is hurt in a car accident, there is a basic structure of (value) for the injury which is what lawyers send back and forth in their letters until the insurance company looks at their books and finally gives in. Most lawyers do not want to go to jury trial to leave it up to the hearts of citizens to determine the price. For the senior citizen, the doctors determine the status of the patient and comply with (for-profit)hospital boards to determine what to do. Unless they run into a prick like me... Way too early in my father's illness, it was determined that he had many (mental) issues and so he (and his government pension medical benefits)would be transferred to one of the largest and most profitable mental hospitals around. As I looked at the paperwork that I insisted on having as my father's P.O.A., I looked at all of the toxic chemicals he was being fed every day and knowing my own sensitivity towards these things, it only made sense that my father might have some of the same low resistance. Neither he nor I were ever heavy drinkers, not smokers and I must admit, he was in pretty good shape for and old man. I spoke to the lead clinician over my father's care and was told they would petition the court if I did not agree with them. That was the worst thing this pompous, pedantic, phony could have said to me from beneath his reading glasses... An hour later I was on the phone with one of the largest legal families in the state whose son clerked for my dad after law school. He asked me for some documents and a basic structure of a letter to send, from that moment on, we were represented by them. (Private Practice law) Is much different than Municipal practice and the Law Suit is their bread & butter. There was no court battle, no expensive and tiresome depositions, the law was clear, my father had made me ( His Being ) for when he was healthy or not and the hospital would only be losing money if they continued to oppose me and the law firm. The amazing thing is, these were simply documents typed with words and a signature. Now the problem was, What to do next ? Be Well Always, Bonder bonder Posted - 03/30/2012 : 07:10:59 THE PRESIDENT NO LONGER SMOKES... "Should We Ban Cigarettes?" http://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/should-we-ban-cigarettes- Project Syndicate Is A Plethora Of Unbiased Information This comes from (Health And Medicine) http://www.project-syndicate.org/culture-and-society/health-and-medicine Roubini Is A Regular Thinker There... http://www.project-syndicate.org/contributors http://www.cnbc.com/id/46901354 The link is on canceramerican.com Be Well Always, Bonder bonder Posted - 03/28/2012 : 08:44:06 FAMILY INSISTS ON VITAMIN C.... http://www.3news.co.nz/Living-Proof-Vitamin-C---Miracle-Cure/tabid/371/articleID/171328/Default.aspx Be Well Always, Bonder bonder Posted - 03/27/2012 : 08:18:29 Tom, ever hear about Dr. Leonard Coldwell? Would like your opinion since he has been interviewed with the raw foods advocates... Boy, if someone told me 20 years ago that I'd be eating the same way those guys with "Don't Murder Cows" t-shirts do, I'd of of told them they need to go back home and see if their mothers found a pornpic inside their pocket protectors ! Sheesh ! Be Well Always, Bonder bonder Posted - 03/27/2012 : 00:48:16 Ah Dan The Man ! We Finally Meet, Kudos For Such a Fine Endeavor... I've had some bad experiences during times with googlemarketers which has the live occupy video display on it due to a former problem with (Livestream) and was hoping to avoid any other future net issues because money is tight and who wants to replace another hard drive lol... Tom Haugen has been very helpful in opening up some doors for me to study this ailment that in my estimation will soon be fading as Mcdonalds finds there will be more profits in " Mcveggie Burgers than quarter pounders lol... I've put a trailer for the film "Forks Over Knives" on canceramerican.com and a 90 minute plant-based thanksgiving cooking show down below it. Because of my success with a thing called the "ketogenic diet" during my teens, I was able to avoid the pitfalls of seizure medicines and the unavoidable toxic side effects common to most people compelled to live with them. It is my conclusion that the way I'll overcome this current problem is by following the Gerson therapy for my insides at any rate, which to my amazement is not that hard once you realize that animal proteins are not all they are cracked up to be, milk is not a friend of the tumor and in my case,carrots rice and potatoes can be quite filling even for a guy in love with his T-Bones and roast chickens ! REMEMBER, THE HEALING REACTION MAY BE SWIFT IN COMING AND NEEDS YOUR PATIENCE... http://www.cellhealthmakeover.com/understanding.html The other thing I have observed is that the vitamin C (Pasting) is pretty aggressive once one gets below The Epidermis which seems a pretty tough bastard to penetrate. Lately Linus Pauling has been proven right again with mega-dosing and proper flow as noted by me earlier. It looks like The Warburg effect is in question and so the re-alkalizing of my form may or may not be a big help but, I've never brought a knife to a gunfight so, my plan is to do it all at the same time inside and out now that so many are saying most cancers are basically the same in nature. I had to teach my father that at least with a Neurohealth issue, timing was everything and so the ingestion of food, medicine and fluids needed to be done under a strict protocol in order to enjoy a somewhat normal lifestyle which meant carrying extra foods and at least waters wherever he went with or without an attendant. http://www.neurohealth.org/ For the person battling cancer, it seems somewhat the same based upon the words of Charlotte Gerson. This means if you are healing on your own, bringing your goop and perhaps a bag lunch for a while with you to work and realizing that if the employer bugs you about it, simply decide if you like the job more than the amount of money you will gain with the right lawyer once becoming (familiar) with the ADA laws. ACCOMMODATING EMPLOYEES WITH CANCER The ADA requires employers to provide adjustments or modifications to enable people with disabilities to enjoy equal employment opportunities unless doing so would be an undue hardship (i.e., a significant difficulty or expense). Accommodations vary depending on the needs of an individual with a disability. Not all employees with cancer will need an accommodation or require the same accommodations, and most of the accommodations a person with cancer might need will involve little or no cost. An employer must provide a reasonable accommodation that is needed because of the limitations caused by the cancer itself, the side effects of medication or treatment for the cancer, or both. For example, an employer may have to accommodate an employee who is unable to work while she is undergoing chemotherapy or who has depression as a result of cancer, the treatment for it, or both. An employer, however, has no obligation to monitor an employee's medical treatment or ensure that he is receiving appropriate treatment. 11. What types of reasonable accommodations may employees with cancer need? Some employees with cancer may need one or more of the following accommodations: leave for doctors' appointments and/or to seek or recuperate from treatment[11] periodic breaks or a private area to rest or to take medication adjustments to a work schedule Example: An engineer working independently on a long-term project has to undergo radiation for cancer every weekday morning for the next eight weeks. The employer should consider whether it could provide a flexible schedule (e.g., allow him to come in later or work part-time) to accommodate his treatment. permission to work at home[12] modification of office temperature permission to use work telephone to call doctors reallocation or redistribution of marginal tasks to another employee Example: A janitor, who had a leg amputated to cure bone cancer, can perform all of his essential job functions without accommodation but has difficulty climbing into the attic to occasionally change the building's air filter. The employer likely can reallocate this marginal function to one of the other janitors. reassignment to another job Example: As a result of lymphedema[13] from her mastectomy, a truck driver for a courier service no longer can lift anything heavier than 10 pounds and, therefore, informs her employer that she is unable to do her current job, which requires her to load and unload packages weighing up to 70 pounds. The employer must consider whether a vacant position exists for which the driver is qualified and to which she can be reassigned as a reasonable accommodation, absent undue hardship. The vacant position must be equivalent in terms of pay and status to the original job, or as close as possible if no equivalent position exists. The position need not be a promotion, although the employee should be able to compete for any promotion for which she is eligible. The employer also does not have to "bump" another employee to create a vacancy. Some employees with cancer may need accommodations other than the ones listed above. The employer, therefore, should discuss with the employee her particular limitations and whether there is anything the employer can do to enable her to work. For example, an employer might explore the possibility of providing certain equipment (e.g., a chair or stool to help with fatigue), a temporary transfer, or changes in how work is performed (e.g., altering when or how a function is done to help with concentration problems). 12. How does an employee with cancer request a reasonable accommodation? There are no "magic words" that a person has to use when requesting a reasonable accommodation. A person simply has to tell the employer that she needs an adjustment or change at work because of her cancer. Example: A nurse tells her supervisor that she is having trouble working 12 hours a day because of medical treatments she is undergoing for breast cancer. This is a request for reasonable accommodation. A request for reasonable accommodation also can come from a family member, friend, health professional, or other representative on behalf of a person with cancer. 13. May an employer request documentation when an employee who has cancer needs a reasonable accommodation? Yes. An employer may request reasonable documentation where a disability or the need for reasonable accommodation is not obvious. An employer, however, is entitled only to documentation sufficient to establish that the employee's cancer is a disability and that explains why an accommodation is needed. A request for an employee's entire medical record, for example, would be inappropriate, as it likely would include information about conditions other than the employee's cancer. Example: An employee asks for leave to receive treatment for colon cancer. His oncologist provides a letter indicating that treatment of the condition will require surgery to remove a portion of the large intestines, along with chemotherapy and radiation. The employee will be totally unable to work for the next six months and, even after the cancer has been treated and the employee can return to work, he will have to use a colostomy bag for the rest of his life for waste elimination. The oncologist's letter concludes that, although he hopes the employee will be able to return to a fairly normal life-style following his treatments, he will need to remain under close medical supervision for five years to detect and prevent any recurrence. The doctor's letter is sufficient to demonstrate that the employee has a disability and needs the reasonable accommodation of leave. If, after returning to work, the employee makes a subsequent accommodation request related to his colon cancer and the need for accommodation is not obvious, the employer may ask for documentation (e.g., a doctor's note) demonstrating why the accommodation is needed but may not ask for documentation establishing that the employee's colon cancer is a disability. 14. Does an employer have to grant every request for a reasonable accommodation? No. An employer does not have to provide an accommodation that would result in "undue hardship." Undue hardship means that providing the reasonable accommodation would result in significant difficulty or expense. However, if a requested accommodation is too difficult or expensive, an employer should determine whether there is another easier or less costly accommodation that would meet the employee's needs. An employer also is not required to provide the reasonable accommodation that an individual wants but, rather, may choose among reasonable accommodations as long as the chosen accommodation is effective. If more than one accommodation is effective, the employee's preference should be given primary consideration. 15. May an employer be required to provide more than one accommodation for the same employee with cancer? Yes. The duty to provide a reasonable accommodation is an ongoing one. Although some employees with cancer may require only one reasonable accommodation, others may need more than one. For example, an employee with cancer may require leave for surgery and subsequent recovery but may be able to return to work on a part-time or modified schedule while receiving chemotherapy. An employer must consider each request for a reasonable accommodation and determine whether it would be effective and whether providing it would pose an undue hardship. 16. Is an employer required to remove one or more of a job's essential functions to accommodate an employee with cancer? No. An employer never has to reallocate essential functions as a reasonable accommodation but can do so if it wishes. In fact, it may be mutually beneficial to the employer and employee to remove an essential function that the employee is unable to do, at least on a temporary basis, because of limitations caused by the cancer, its treatment, and/or side effects. Example: A doctor becomes too fatigued from cancer treatments to perform surgery, but she still is able to conduct surgical consults and perform her research and teaching duties. Her employer may temporarily remove her from the surgery schedule, rather than placing her on leave, while allowing her to continue performing her other duties. 17. May an employer automatically deny a request for leave from someone with cancer because the employee cannot specify an exact date of return? No. Granting leave to an employee who is unable to provide a fixed date of return may be a reasonable accommodation. Although many types of cancer can be successfully treated -- and often cured -- the treatment and severity of side effects often are unpredictable and do not permit exact timetables. An employee requesting leave because of cancer, therefore, may be able to provide only an approximate date of return (e.g., "in six to eight weeks," "in about three months"). In such situations, or in situations in which a return date must be postponed because of unforeseen medical developments, employees should stay in regular communication with their employers to inform them of their progress and discuss the need for continued leave beyond what originally was granted. The employer also has the right to require that the employee provide periodic updates on his condition and possible date of return. After receiving these updates, the employer may reevaluate whether continued leave constitutes an undue hardship. CONCERNS ABOUT SAFETY When it comes to safety, an employer should be careful not to act on the basis of myths, fears, generalizations, or stereotypes about cancer. Instead, the employer should evaluate each individual on his knowledge, skills, experience, and the extent to which cancer affects his ability to work in a particular job. 18. When may an employer prohibit a person who has cancer from performing a job because of safety concerns? An employer only may exclude an individual with cancer from a job for safety reasons when the individual poses a direct threat. A "direct threat" is a significant risk of substantial harm to the individual or others that cannot be eliminated or reduced through reasonable accommodation. This determination must be based on objective, factual evidence, including the best recent medical evidence and advances to treat and cure cancer. In making a direct threat assessment, the employer must evaluate the individual's present ability to safely perform the job. The employer also must consider: (1) the duration of the risk; (2) the nature and severity of the potential harm; (3) the likelihood that the potential harm will occur; and, (4) the imminence of the potential harm. The harm must be serious and likely to occur, not remote and speculative. Finally, the employer must determine whether any reasonable accommodation would reduce or eliminate the risk. Example: A school district may not demote a high school principal, who has been successfully treated for non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, because it fears that the stress of the job may trigger a relapse. HARASSMENT The ADA also prohibits harassment based on disability just as other federal laws prohibit harassment based on race, sex, color, national origin, religion, or age. Harassment is actionable under the ADA when a person is subjected to offensive conduct that is sufficiently severe or pervasive to create a hostile or abusive work environment. Employees who believe that they have been harassed because of cancer may file a charge with the EEOC as described below. LEGAL ENFORCEMENT Any person who believes that his or her employment rights have been violated on the basis of disability and wants to make a claim against an employer must file a charge of discrimination with the EEOC. A third party also may file a charge on behalf of another person claiming to be aggrieved. For example, a family member or other representative can file a charge on behalf of someone with cancer who may be unable to file a charge. The charge must be filed by mail or in person with the local EEOC office within 180 days from the date of the alleged violation. The 180-day filing deadline is extended to 300 days if a state or local anti-discrimination law also covers the charge. The EEOC will send the parties a copy of the charge and may ask for responses and supporting information. Before a formal investigation, the EEOC may select the charge for EEOC's mediation program. Both parties must agree to mediation, which may prevent a time-consuming investigation of the charge. Participation in mediation is free, voluntary, and confidential. If mediation is unsuccessful, the EEOC investigates the charge to determine if there is "reasonable cause" to believe discrimination has occurred. If reasonable cause is found, the EEOC will then try to resolve the charge with the employer. In some cases, where the charge cannot be resolved, the EEOC will file a court action. If the EEOC finds no discrimination, or if an attempt to resolve the charge fails and the EEOC decides not to file suit, it will issue a notice of a "right to sue," which gives the charging party 90 days to file a court action. A charging party also can request a notice of a "right to sue" from the EEOC 180 days after the charge first was filed with the EEOC and may then bring suit within 90 days after receiving the notice. For a detailed description of the process, visit our web site at http://www.eeoc.gov/employees/charge.cfm. For issues relating to federal employment, please refer to our web site at http://www.eeoc.gov/facts/fs-fed.html. Retaliation The ADA prohibits retaliation by an employer against someone who opposes discriminatory employment practices, files a charge of employment discrimination, or testifies or participates in any way in an investigation, proceeding, or litigation. Persons who believe that they have been retaliated against may file a charge of retaliation with the EEOC as described above. http://www.eeoc.gov/facts/cancer.html Many managers will become sniveling little worms once a letter is sent to either their superior or the human resources mgr which in my experience are quite often females with a chip on their shoulders and usually report directly to the CEO. The nice thing about the chip, is that it is usually part of a maternal instinct which I feel is just what is needed for employees and perhaps, is just the reason why so many women are in that very needed position... MANY MEN DON'T HAVE THE STOMACH FOR THE BATTLES THESE WOMEN HAVE WON. Mind you, this info is a bit dated for me since it has been a while since I was around the corp environment so, the HR mgr might be a computer now in Multi-Nationals for all I know lol ! However,The CEO does not liked to be sued and after having a friend of the family sue the I.R.S. on my behalf during a very bad time for me physically while caring for my father, I realized most things come to a 180 once the law is at the door and money is on the line. Americans need to know they still have rights... So, currently in our country we still have the right to heal our wounds and while a Basal cell or SCC seems small in comparison to other forms, I believe the thing to remember is that your immune system is off for some reason and that is not good... Quite often due to diet and the constant exposure to toxins not made by nature but with the right nutrients and detoxifiers, one should be able to adjust to the assault and kick the crap out of the mistakes of our past. I found Dr. Lisanti's video sensible so I put it on the site and have started with one NAC pill a day. If what I think is coming in this country due to the occupy movement and people fed up with being sent home to die by the very experts placed to help them happens... it may not be pretty but many folks may just understand that they must start to protect themselves and their families now that the government will be insisting on and then rationing out health care. http://www.opencongress.org/articles/list?month=3-2012 EXAMPLE OF HOW A STATE NEEDS TO ACT FIRST http://wbal.com/article/88171/21/template-story/House-Senate-Approve-Health-Care-Reform-Element-As-Court-Hears-Arguments There is a much bigger reason why there are so many cheap buffets out there now and if we eat them all the time, we will be creating our own destinies unless enough people understand that humans are NOT mainly carnivores by nature and leave milk for the calves to drink... http://blog.atmajyoti.org/2008/04/humans-are-we-carnivores-or-vegetarians-by-nature/ Obviously, we all fall back but, it is better to adhere to what is required at least until some of the healing reactions have passed. Now back to cancer... AN ASPIRIN A DAY MAY BE FLAWED AND A BIT ANECDOTAL... http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1922647#i FIND SOME NEWS AND GIVE IT A NUMBER ! This is the reason I feel getting one's immune system is so critical in order to heal yourself. These guys will find new blotches on their stain samples until the cows come home. http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/243426.php http://www.latimes.com/health/la-he-tumor-attack-20120327,0,4255100.story Perhaps We Are Missing The Purpose Of Chemo Friends ????? Chemo Success Stories? Trumpeted successes in cancer treatment often turn into dismal failures. One of the best-known examples happened in early 1999 when the Mayo Clinic at Rochester declared King Hussein “cancer-free” after extensive chemotherapy treatments for lymphatic cancer. The king returned to Jordan for a victory parade, greeting his people while standing in a luxury convertible. Only a week later the triumph turned into a tragedy when he was rushed back to the Mayo Clinic where suddenly the diagnosis was changed from “cancer-free” to the prognosis of “imminent death” due to multiple organ failure. He died on February 7, less than two weeks later. There can be little doubt the severe damage to his organs was caused by the cancer treatment which included chemotherapy. Be Well Always, Bonder (The Cow Hater) dan Posted - 03/26/2012 : 00:35:29 Bonder, I think there has been a misunderstanding. The reason the pages went from 3 to 2 in a day is I changed a forum setting from 60 entries per page to 120 entries per page. Nothing was lost. I was thinking it would be better for people to see more topics under each forum because there was good content available that was not easily seen. I was not thinking about the impact on the threads and maybe it was a bad idea. This has been a great thread and I did not mean to harm it. I agree this is a noble cause. Plus, there have been at least some good results, but we still need more answers. Personally, I have done a 180 on skin cancer thanks to the grace of God and the people that contribute here. I wish you the best always. bonder Posted - 03/24/2012 : 23:05:22 Well Tom once more you have impressed me with your knowledge and your use of video proof which is something I can relate to. Funny, my thread shrank from 3 to 2 pages in a day? Perhaps someone wants me to be more concise... I truly would like to thank you and everyone here for the input and the inspiration to begin canceramerican.com.(as common as it may be) It has been a true pleasure to be involved with such a noble cause and I will continue with my search for answers in my quest to find what seems the last gauntlet left in a lifetime of subduing the monsters of society and wearing the scars of loved ones which it seems is sometimes necessary in order to give all that you had promised for the one thing, You can never see but you can feel, you can know but not have proof of, recall but not forget and hope will be waiting for you some day with the open arms that have been gone for a very long time.... I wrote a bit about it on the site which I suppose is not the best forum for it but, what the heck it is mine to do with as I please. I found this after watching Dr Lisanti's wonderful video. Product Description N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine supports the health of the liver, brain, lungs, and other body tissues. Many of the beneficial actions of N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine, or NAC by Seeking Health are related to its ability to enhance the production of glutathione, one of the body’s most important antioxidants. Typically our body’s ability to produce glutathione will begin to decline as we age. Every day exposure to enviornmental toxins increase the need for antioxidant protection from glutathione. Another reason to actively use NAC N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine. What does NAC N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine by Seeking Health provide? Protection for brain and nerve cells: NAC’s antioxidant property helps protect against damage to neurons, the specialized cells found in our nervous system that are vital to maintaining memory and cognitive function. li>Pure and Potent NAC supplement: NAC by Seeking Health contains no flow agents, preservatives, allergens, flavors or colors. Dr Ben formulated this NAC supplement and all of the Seeking Health line to provide high quality nutrient supplements for people with chemical and/or food sensitivities. Antioxidant activity: NAC is needed to produce intracellular glutathione, and adequate levels of glutathione are crucial for healthy function of the liver, nerve cells, brain, pancreas, and lungs. Immune and respiratory system support: NAC has the ability to disrupt disulfide bonds of proteins found in mucus, allowing it to be more easily expelled from the lungs. The antioxidant action of NAC may also help protect the lungs and support the immune system. Oral supplements of NAC N-Acetyl-L-Cysteineare a reliable way of increasing cellular production of glutathione, however if you are just supplementing with glutathione directly this is not an effective way of boosting its levels inside cells. N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine may help if you are experiencing: Pneumonia Bronchitis Emphysema Chronic cough Exposure to environmental toxins NAC derivative of the amino acid cysteine that is used to synthesize glutathione, one of the most important antioxidant compounds for your body to assist in the detoxification process. NAC is normally present in high amounts in lung and liver tissues. Use 500 mg per day http://www.seekinghealth.com/nac-n-acetyl-l-cysteine-500-mg-90-vegetarian-capsules.html Be well always, Bonder

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