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judo

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Posted - 03/11/2014 :  02:09:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not sure if anyone's watching this topic any more? I got back from holiday last week with a view to starting the iodine treatment. Since nobody commented on whether you can use the 12% iodine I ordered some 7% from amazon, it arrived yesterday as 15%!! So now I have to return it and order again. Keen to get started I decided to give the 12% a try, painted/stroked it on for the first time last night, about 30 strokes and it stung a fair bit but I guess that's a good sign. Went to bed and this morning it's looking much less red than before so I re-applied. Incidentally any trace of the iodine I put on last night had gone this morning, wondering if that means I am deficient? Will update every 2-3 days, let me know if you're reading..!!
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Lynn8384

USA
59 Posts

Posted - 03/12/2014 :  16:27:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi I know the feeling - seems like all the posts are years old and no one is there. I like the iodine - I was originally a vitamin C poster - and still like the ascorbic acid but once I got a couple of weeks into it…thought might be good to use iodine. I like the results with iodine and just used it again last night. I think it makes a difference what type of specific skin cancer you have. For me, I have a sore which sometime bled but had area around it that didn't look good - but never had a raised area - mine was more of a lot of shallow growth (or so I think) that was growing for about 7 years - but spreading over big area (entire tip of my nose) So I am trying everything - but I am a little ADD and jump from one thing to another every few days. I came back to Iodine because just recently I went from the humid climate where I live to dry Arizona for a few days- and I noticed how much different my cancer area was. It dried out and looked much better with dry air than it did in the humid climate so made me think more about fungus etc. and that was why the iodine was such a good treatment. So I went back to iodine and DMSO last night. Good luck
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judo

33 Posts

Posted - 03/19/2014 :  00:33:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well I'm now 9 days into the treatment. Started with the 12% lugol's for the first 5 days then the 7% arrived and I'm using that now. The area is now covered with a scab just like chuck said but I have to admit although I take a drop of lugol's in water every day my treatment frequency is closer to dr simoncini's than chuck's, mainly because I was using a stronger lugol's to begin with but I might step it up a bit now. It does however appear to be doing everything chuck said it would so I hope it's heading in the right direction. I'll post another picture in the next few days for all to see.

Lynn, maybe you should stick to the lugol's for a good 2-3 weeks? Maybe you'll see some better results like that? It makes sense though about the dry climate, I can see that wouldn't be an ideal situation for fungus. Thanks for replying though and letting me know you're following the thread, anyone else??
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Lynn8384

USA
59 Posts

Posted - 03/20/2014 :  15:13:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Judo sounds like the iodine is working for you. Have you had any areas close by the original site swell up or open up? or just the original area in the picture? I think one of the main things with the iodine is keep on it even after it appears to have healed. Looking forward to seeing a new picture as to how the iodine looks in the various stages.
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judo

33 Posts

Posted - 03/21/2014 :  03:33:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Lynn, I didn't see anything swell up really but some skin around it peeled, probably due to using the 12% iodine which I now think might have been too strong. The first scab fell off the other evening and the skin underneath felt quite tender and a bit sore but I kept going, now with the 7% iodine. It didn't sting as much as I thought it would on the new skin and it doesn't look like it has changed much in appearance either but there we are. I know chuck kept it up for over 5 weeks and as I'm only in the second week I have some way to go.

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Lynn8384

USA
59 Posts

Posted - 03/21/2014 :  14:53:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
sounds like you are on the right track - supposed to be three scabs and done so keep it up. I am sticking with the cannibus oil for the next 7-10 days but I have the iodine at the "ready" - I want to follow this to see how it is working for you.
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judo

33 Posts

Posted - 04/11/2014 :  02:56:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, about 10 days ago I stopped the iodine treatment, I had an appointment booked for yesterday with a dermatologist and wanted the area to be clear (un-stained) for him to see clearly. Previous to now it had only been roughly diagnosed by my GP. Once the iodine had disappeared altogether you could stil see the BCC and it still itched but it was smaller than before I started the treatment, so off I went to see the derm.

He had a good look and confirmed that it is a BCC and advised I use Aldara cream to treat it. He went into how the cream works and the side effects which sounded pretty horrendous! So at least I've had it confirmed now, I got home, without visiting the pharmacy, and got out the Lugol's again. It is my intention now to continue with this until it has destroyed the BCC.

Not sure if I mentioned but I have a dry scaly patch on my head to which he believes is actinic keratoses. As this one's on my head and visible to others I have order some clear iodine, I shall follow the same protocol with this.

I'll report back every now and then with my news...
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judo

33 Posts

Posted - 04/21/2014 :  12:55:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Someone asked me about posting a picture here, the main problem I had was the size, once I had reduced it it worked fine.

Have been applying the iodine every day at lease twice a day sometimes more. Yesterday the first scab came off so the next application stung a bit more than usual but it's not a big deal. Will keep at this and report news as and when.

The actinic keratosis on my head appears to be improving too. I bought some clear iodine (because it's on my head and quite visible to all) but I
After 3-4 days nothing seemed to be happening so I switched to raw apple cider vinegar instead. After 2-3 days with this it seemed to almost erupt but a few more days after that 3 or 4 scabs have appeared and the area is less red than before. I expect these scabs will fall off soon so will let you know and post some before and after pics too.

How's things for you Lynn?
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D.B.Lawton

USA
22 Posts

Posted - 04/21/2014 :  17:10:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm still watching the forum. Sorry..... I run a small business and have limited time, which mostly gets spent trying to make money...... SO.... with that said, I have discovered something with this iodine treatment...... just because it scabs up three times and falls off three times does NOT mean that it is a done deal. I have a friend who told me that hers scabbed over six times before it wouldn't scab over again. Well, I followed the instructions on Dr. Simoncini's website, and only allowed it to scab over three times, then stopped the treatment. Although the spot is much smaller this time, it did come back. This time, I will continue to apply the 7% tincture of iodine, until it will no longer scab over. I will try to keep posted. It has been three days now since I started treating this again.
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judo

33 Posts

Posted - 04/21/2014 :  23:50:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good to hear from you DB Lawton. This makes sense to me, mine scabbed up 2-3 times initially before I stopped the iodine due to my consultation the following week, but didn't get rid of it altogether. I know chuck says he kept it going for around 5 weeks so I think I have to be prepared for that...it'll be two weeks this Thursday for me, good luck with yours and let us know how it goes when you have a min.
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judo

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Posted - 05/15/2014 :  22:58:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Another update, I have continued with the iodine treatment, about 5 weeks in all now and I think it's looking better but difficult to tell with the area stained brown all the time! However, I discovered some petty spurge growing nearby so I have potted some up with the intention of giving it a try if the iodine doesn't seem to have worked when I stop in a week or so, approx. 5-6 weeks since starting.

Regarding the AK on my head, this was bothering me because I don't have much coverage up there so not wanting to use iodine on it I have been dousing it with apple cider vinegar for about a month. I've also been taking 2 desert spoons of ACV in a glass of water morning and evening, I read on another forum that this helps to alkaline the body and some of these conditions can be caused initially by the body being too acidic. So, not much seemed to be happening but I kept going because I'd read that you need to be persistant with this, and then last night when I went through the regular ritual of dousing it the largest of the scabs just floated right off. Underneath was new and virtually unblemished skin! I'm so pleased, there are still one to two very small scabs but I guess these will go the same way and I will continue treatment until they have gone, tempted to keep up the supplementing with ACV indefinitely though.

Incidentally, my AK appeared in a place on my head that I had damaged about 9 or so years ago. I remember getting up and bashing my head on a rough piece of wood (didn't have much hair then either to protect it!), it bled but healed like a normal injury would I left me with a little scar but apart from that I never thought much more of it. Then early this year I rubbed my head with a towel after a shower and noticed it was bleeding a bit, from that point it got worse and developed an unsightly scab after the derm pushed and pulled it during his diagnosis. Anyway fingers crossed all is well now!

Maybe worth noting that during my treatment phase I have stuck to (as much as possible) a bread, wheat and sugar free diet with as many fruit and veg as possible. I also gave up alcohol about 3 weeks ago in an attempt to give my body the best chance possible to heal itself. I have noticed that a fungal nail infection (affecting one big toenail for the last 25 years!) has also begun to grow normally so I have been rubbing clear iodine into the edge of this to help it on its way.

Hope others reading this are also having some success and can use it as motivation to keep going, it doesn't happen overnight but it does appear to happen if you carry on!
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srains99

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Posted - 05/21/2014 :  07:16:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Judo,

I just finished using Petty Spurge on a facial BCC, it worked fast and like a charm.
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judo

33 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2014 :  07:24:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
srains99 that's great news well done. Did you order from the link from Australia?
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tom24

United Kingdom
3 Posts

Posted - 05/29/2014 :  07:10:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I really commend you guys for sharing your knowledge and personal experiences about skin cancer. I plea to anyone who knows or has a direct personal experience or an idea on how to tackle topically a “nasal mucosal melanoma” inside the nasal cavity attached to the mucosal walls. What alternative remedy would you suggest given the fact that obviously Zinc Chloride "bloodroot paste" or Lugol Iodine would burn the entire area and it would be unbearably painful to deal with?
I will be immensely grateful for any feasible suggestions.
Tom
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judo

33 Posts

Posted - 05/30/2014 :  00:05:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tom, good to hear from you and let's hope you can find something to deal with what you have there.

I just wanted to say that I have only been supplementing with ACV (Braggs) since the beginning of this month, so about 4 weeks in total and the AK on my head has now completely gone, all scabs etc. This may be due largely to the dousing 2-3 times a day it was getting but it could also be to do with the supplementing. I've read that it helps to alkalize the body and that sometimes these things (AK, BCC) come about because the body is too acidic.

Anyway I don't think you'd have anything to lose by supplementing ACV so it might be worth you starting this Tom until you decide on a topical treatment to use. Hopefully some of the others on here will be able to make some suggestions, what is your GP suggesting?
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captscubaman

USA
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Posted - 08/22/2014 :  06:35:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have read you post a few times. I have had a few outbreaks of squamous cell skin cancer. I have had a few surgically removed by MOHS surgery. A rather large one on my scalp in an area where I had an injury when I was 16 years old. It needed a skin graft to close the wound. I should mention I am now 66 years old and have been sunburned many times throughout my life. I had a spot on my left shin that was done the same with MOHS surgery it came out poorly. The doctor cut three of my veins and he had to clamp those off to sew them up and now left with a large scar. I presently have two more spots that have been diagnosed as squamous cancer. I am currently treating them with Lugol's 2% iodine solution. I inadvertently purchased 2% rather then 5%.I am on my second day of three treatments a day with 20 applications each time. I will keep you posted as to the outcome. If that's ok. As of today my next doctors appointment is on Sept. 28th as he is always booked for a long time. Rather then wait for the cancer to keep growing I elected to try your method. Take Care! by Chuck[/i]

First, I'm so thankful I found this website! I'm a 57yr-old Caucasian male that has suffered through the surgical and laser-based removal of basal skins cancers several times in the past. Being of Scottish descent, it's said we can get a sunburn from a moonbeam (joke). While perhaps not that extreme, I burned badly when outdoors. My father had 1/2 his nose removed and was scheduled to have an entire ear removed, but died of a heart attack before the doctors could further disfigure him. It seemd my similar future was inevitable. Over the past 3 - 4 years, I developed two large basal cell cancers on my left cheek. On the larger one, the visible cancer was the size of a dime and the smaller one perhaps 1/2 that size. However, the underlying, invisible area was twice as large on each. A surgical removal would probably require an excision the size of a U.S. quarter and need several stitches. No doubt, I would have been required to return later for plastic surgery and maybe more cancer surgery due to the likelihood of re-growth (which I found to be a common occurence based on past surgeries). Thank God, that scarring process won't happen thanks to this website and others I read associated with Dr. Simoncini. Here's what happened: I bought some 7% iodine tincture online and soaked the cancers 5 - 8 times each day. Unfortunately, I burned my skin because tincture contains alcohol. My skin itched, burned, peeled and the overall experience was unpleasant. But I continued because the alternative would be even more intolerable. When I first applied the tincture, the cancers became very inflamed. In fact, the areas rose up and seemed to double in size. That's because I wasn't aware of how much cancer was invisible under the skin. When it rose above the surface, it looked horrible. Quite large, angry red and splitting open. Believe me, you don't want to use iodine tincture unless you really enjoy pain. Out of sheer desparation, I Googled for iodine that didn't contain alcohol. That's how I found Lugol's 5% solution. This stuff is expensive ($25 shipped for 1 ounce), but it's worth every penny. The pain level is perhaps 1/10 of what it is when there's alcohol and it also works just as well on the cancer. I started this entire iodine regimen 3 weeks ago. Two weeks using the iodine with alcohol (don't do that) and 1 week with Lugol's. I'm so excited I can't stand it! My larger cancer is now 1/5 the original size and the smaller one is about the same size as that (I started it later). It's gone from roughly the size of a nickel to smaller than the end of a pencil eraser in just three weeks. Even better, the skin around it looks brand new without any scarring. According to what I read in various websites about the miracle of iodine, it heals from the bottom up, not the top down. That means its healing may not be seen initially, but because it heals the bottom layers of skin first, there's no scarring. Now for some basic instructions: (1) buy Lugol's - I bought mine directly from their website; (2) apply it LIBERALLY directly on the cancer and around the perimeter (the further out you go, the better); (3) apply at least 5 - 10 times per day and don't let a day pass; (4) DO NOT PICK the scab!! If you do, it may leave a scar and also take longer to heal. It will also burn like crazy when you apply the iodine the enxt time - so DON'T DO IT; (5) if you have to go out, where a band-aid while you're out and remove it as soon as you return home. It needs the air exposure because you're fighting Candida which hates oxygen. So let it breathe and the Candida will die faster; (6) take 1 drop of Lugol's in water every day to help kill the Candida in your gut; (7) get a good probiotic like Culturelle and take it every day. Do all this, and your skin cancers will disappear. I can say that with confidence based on what I've seen and personally experienced. Now one last comment: you probably have skin cancers (and perhaps other issues) because of Candida. So if you want to avoid future problems, you must knock back the Candida level in your body. Candida loves yeast and sugar. If you take an antibiotic, any Candida you already have will explode and create severe allergies, arthritis, diabetes, lupus, on and on. Candida is perhaps the single biggest health problem in America. So I won't go into what you need to do to get rid of it, but I strongly recommend you Google the info and take the right steps to knock it back. That's what I've been doing these past 3 weeks and I haven't felt this good in years. So good luck and I hope my personal experience helps someone else. Pay it forward!
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iodinegal

United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/17/2017 :  08:24:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello all, first of all thanks so much to Dan for this very helpful site and to the people who post here.
I have a 2mm suspected BCC on my nose that has responded well to Lugol's iodine (7% iodine, 14% KI), still awaiting results of biopsy. Wanted to treat it while waiting for my derm appointment because it was crusting frequently.
I applied the iodine 5-6 times per day for 2 weeks, wetting the lesion well each time using a sponge-tipped eyemake up applicator -you can buy them cheaply in bags of 20 or so at many shops eg Primark. The lesion scabbed over thickly twice and the skin started to heal. I then gave it another iodine treatment for 4 days.
By the time I went for my biopsy appointment it was looking much smaller and was no longer surrounded by angry-looking blood vessels. Sadly, the derm said I would still need a biopsy as he could still see tumour, but he took only a 2mm biopsy, saying it was the tiniest BCC he'd ever biopsied.
I am currently treating with a homemade saturated sodium ascorbate solution and it's continuing to heal. I've also been taking oral iodine, along with vitamin D3 5000 units/day, melatonin 2mg and niacinamide 200-300mg at night.
I was a bit nervous fessing up about the iodine to the derm but he has been very supportive and wanted to know all about the alternative treatments I'd been looking at. On the other hand my family couldn't have been more critical, going on about how I'd made things so much worse (what do they think conventionally treated lesions look like, midtreatment?)
Got to say, the iodine was completely painless, the only drawback is the skin staining, which takes a few days to disappear after you stop treatment. There was also a lot of mild skin peeling over a large area of my nose but that's resolving now. I have photos if anyone is interested and can update in October when I see the derm again.
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