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BasalBoy
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 Posted - 06/17/2011 : 01:46:53
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You would never say that to your doctor, but isn't that what's really happening? I'm glad they no longer use bloodletting or Mercury, but isn't medicine basically an evolving experiment? I think most doctors mean well, but it bothers me a bit that their business is called a practice. I would like to have them call me when they have things really figured out.
The current standard for skin cancer is Mohs surgery and I went there and did that for way too long (see http://www.topicalinfo.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=949 for my story). My last trip to a dermatologist left me seriously questioning whether I would end up having a nose, and if the cancer was determined to be in my eye, that might remain in the hospital as well. These are not things you can discuss while under anesthesia. After doing Mohs and Cansema for years, smearing some eggplant, vinegar, citrus oil or herbs on my face
seems far less painful and just might work. One good thing about being older is you don't really have to worry about looking good anymore, so using my scabby nose as a science experiment isn't really that crazy considering the alternatives.
I uploaded a photo of my basally beak, which you can see has a series of sizable scabs that always lead to people asking "what happened to your face?" I suspect many of you have to answer the same question, but maybe by putting our heads together on this great site we can come up with a solution, and I believe it will be found somewhere in nature. Right now I'm brewing up some eggplant mixed with apple cider vinegar and letting it chill in the refrigerator a few days. the brew has a pH of 3.5 which is quite acidic and measures about 940 parts per million of dissolved solids, so it does have significant organic content. I'm skeptical it will do anything for basal cells, but willing to give it a try unless it turns out to be too caustic and painful. I would suggest anyone else start on a small, less visible spot on their body and if I were smarter, might do the same.
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anivoc
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Posted - 06/17/2011 : 09:34:27
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I still keep seeing a lot of people using the eggplant vinegar concoction but I personally tried it for months with no especially wonderful results on my bigger basal cell tumors. Vinegar on it's own has knocked out a few minor AK's I have had.
Bloodroot paste and now Petty Spurge have been my best and easiest ( still painful ) topicals.
The combo idea is interesting and I have been experimenting with this idea over the last year with several different concoctions. Some encouraging but not ready to shout about it here results. I'm at least holding things at bay...
It's a battle and I have to explain my bandages regularly. I work with some hispanics and my nick name with them is Curitos (Bandages in spanish)
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BasalBoy
USA
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Posted - 06/18/2011 : 16:56:18
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I picked this mix since several people seemed to have some results. Day 1 I applied the fresh mix (ground organic eggplant and apple cider vinegar.) No stinging or noticeable activity, but even Angelina Jolle couldn't sell this as a fragrance. The odor seems to fade quickly. compared to the highly visable black spots using Cansema or white splotches trying baking soda, here the skin looks normal (except for basal cells and scabs.)
If anyone knows the best use of this mixture, please advise. Day 2 I applied some cold from the fridge and results were the same as day 1.
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BasalBoy
USA
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Posted - 06/30/2011 : 00:36:49
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Update: After a week using the eggplant and apple cider mix I didn't notice any difference, though longer time may have had some effect. It was nice to use something that was not burning or visibly ugly however. The one main skin grew thicker, which often happens over time normally, and the photo of that is attached.
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BasalBoy
USA
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Posted - 06/30/2011 : 00:54:04
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As often happens from continued moisture or wet mixture, the scabs will fall off but then come back. My intent is to find something that will
make them and the underlying basal cells go away without surgery or drugs that have questionable and possible long term damaging effects on the body. (Who knows what a seemingly harmless cream that admittedly changes our immune system will do over time.) Here is a photo of the area now. It would be nice, but naive to think the eggplant mix worked. There didn't seem to be any action, but lets see. The experiment continues, beginning with the safe and non-caustic eggplant/vinegar mix.
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BasalBoy
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Posted - 07/05/2011 : 17:42:38
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I am trying to avoid
1. expensive, painful, possibly long-term harmful Dermatology treatments.
2. Less expensive, but caustic somewhat painful and questionable alternatives like Cansema,Efudex,cymilium and Petty spurge.
3. I'm starting with seemingly safe non-castic eggplant and apple cider vinegar that have been around for centuries, are painless to use and don't burn holes in our skin. I am however, skeptical this mix will do anything significant. While even seemingly user-friendly and natural things like vitamin C Might be part of the solution, many users still report caustic action and pain when using. While my experimental process is moving slowly towards those more caustic and painful topical solutions, the reduction in scab size tells me to put aside my skepticism for another week or two of observation using this mixture. I can smear this on my face with absolutely no pain can go out in public with no black spots or bandages on my face. I'll upload pictures weekly that will help show any results. Although I hold a PhD, I'm not a licensed physician and definitely not a dermatologist. I lost respect for mine and would like to find one that asks questions about long-term results and safety of the tools they use like Aldara (see Sonny's comments on it). We don't want to be experimenting on children the way Nazis didn't during World War II, but being seventy years old, I think I'm a good candidate for experimentation.
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BasalBoy
USA
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Posted - 07/26/2011 : 01:51:18
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After a month using the eggplant mix I can say there is zero discomfort and no visual ugliness like using Cansema, but I don't see any real results. While there is some reduction in scab size,as you can see especially in he center area, though it may be only temporary. Good science would have unbiased trained observers follow a large number of patients having biopsied basal cells carefully documenting application and results in a laboratory setting, yet. This forum lists several natural sources that show promise and hopefully we can try these and share our results. Much of the so called science in America is done by paid employees of drug companies who have often been caught falsifying results in their favor since so much money is at stake.
I hope others will try using eggplant so we can get more perspective on potential results.
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FERNANDO c ROBAINA
USA
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Posted - 08/09/2011 : 00:33:03
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Dear Basal Boy
I totally cured myself and my wife of 4 BCC's in about 5 weeks with a natural substance. I'm writing a book about it. if you wish to try my cure (but don't mix it with any other). please respond to this post. If so, I would appreciate if you can photo document your application.
regards
fernando
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After a month using the eggplant mix I can say there is zero discomfort and no visual ugliness like using Cansema, but I don't see any real results. While there is some reduction in scab size,as you can see especially in he center area, though it may be only temporary. Good science would have unbiased trained observers follow a large number of patients having biopsied basal cells carefully documenting application and results in a laboratory setting, yet. This forum lists several natural sources that show promise and hopefully we can try these and share our results. Much of the so called science in America is done by paid employees of drug companies who have often been caught falsifying results in their favor since so much money is at stake.
I hope others will try using eggplant so we can get more perspective on potential results.
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BlondeAmbition3
USA
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Posted - 08/30/2011 : 22:15:30
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| Thanks for sharing this BasalBoy.... I'll be watching for photos of your continued progress. It's people like you who pioneer the paths to other people's healings. I applaud your courage and humanity. :) |
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BasalBoy
USA
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Posted - 10/20/2011 : 13:40:16
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I'm back after six weeks trying protocol someone promised me would work, but as the above photo shows, did not. I promised I wouldn't disclose what it was but can say it was not as painless as they claimed. Basal cells are removed with the black salve were either tiny red spots or larger ones beginning to ooze or bleed, but none had scabs formed over the top. I would love to have a dermatologist who is open to what we are trying to do an experienced enough to know when or why the scabs form. I suspect that it is like any wound trying to heal, yet without remedy the damaged area just seems to grow. As with any scab, getting it wet showering or putting a liquid remedy on it will often cause it to fall off. This is why in my photos sometimes the scabs are thicker than others, but the bottom line is nothing I have used recently has produced results.
My next foray is into using the oil from marijuana buds, known as honey oil, that is produced some results for a number of people. While skeptical, the good news is it seems fairly safe and completely painless. Living in California, I can become a medical patient legal to use marijuana products. Although I don't choose to smoke it, since any smoking is not good for the body, the oil seems to have medicinal qualities. Oddly enough, the US government holds a patent on marijuana for its medicinal qualities, while at the same time putting thousands in jail for using it. This, along with some videos on YouTube tell me there may be some value to the oil. Being an old Irish guy who has had about 20 lifetimes worth of sun exposure, I have become a basal cell farm. Normally just running my hand across my forehead I can feel their little bumps and crispy tops. I've enclosed a photo showing how the oil makes them more apparent. While there is no pain, when you leave home, people will be asking you what happened? Please don't try this at home! Don't put things on your face that could cause harm.
Practicing martial arts for decades, my friends are used to my nose being cut or bruised, and many think I'm still battling someone in the ring rather than basal cells. Many that know think I'm crazy, and maybe I am, but refuse to go back to Mohs surgery. Efudex another medical creams can damage our immune system, so I'm not going that route. my concern is the oil being able to penetrate the scabs and we will see what happens.
If anyone else has experience with the oil or penetrating scabs, please share.
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treasyann
USA
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Posted - 11/04/2011 : 11:56:16
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Hi BasalBoy and Others
BasalBoy I saw your post regarding honey oil/hemp oil and wanted to ask how are you doing with this treatment?
I've visted this site often over the last year and have been a member for awhile now however this is my first posting.
I'm a 60yr old female with nose BCC on-going problems
Thank you BasalBoy for all your various posting as your willingness along with the other poster on here to share their experiences has really helped me and others also I'm sure.
Thanks in advance for any possible reply posting
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Originally posted by BasalBoy
I'm back after six weeks trying protocol someone promised me would work, but as the above photo shows, did not. I promised I wouldn't disclose what it was but can say it was not as painless as they claimed. Basal cells are removed with the black salve were either tiny red spots or larger ones beginning to ooze or bleed, but none had scabs formed over the top. I would love to have a dermatologist who is open to what we are trying to do an experienced enough to know when or why the scabs form. I suspect that it is like any wound trying to heal, yet without remedy the damaged area just seems to grow. As with any scab, getting it wet showering or putting a liquid remedy on it will often cause it to fall off. This is why in my photos sometimes the scabs are thicker than others, but the bottom line is nothing I have used recently has produced results.
My next foray is into using the oil from marijuana buds, known as honey oil, that is produced some results for a number of people. While skeptical, the good news is it seems fairly safe and completely painless. Living in California, I can become a medical patient legal to use marijuana products. Although I don't choose to smoke it, since any smoking is not good for the body, the oil seems to have medicinal qualities. Oddly enough, the US government holds a patent on marijuana for its medicinal qualities, while at the same time putting thousands in jail for using it. This, along with some videos on YouTube tell me there may be some value to the oil. Being an old Irish guy who has had about 20 lifetimes worth of sun exposure, I have become a basal cell farm. Normally just running my hand across my forehead I can feel their little bumps and crispy tops. I've enclosed a photo showing how the oil makes them more apparent. While there is no pain, when you leave home, people will be asking you what happened? Please don't try this at home! Don't put things on your face that could cause harm.
Practicing martial arts for decades, my friends are used to my nose being cut or bruised, and many think I'm still battling someone in the ring rather than basal cells. Many that know think I'm crazy, and maybe I am, but refuse to go back to Mohs surgery. Efudex another medical creams can damage our immune system, so I'm not going that route. my concern is the oil being able to penetrate the scabs and we will see what happens.
If anyone else has experience with the oil or penetrating scabs, please share.
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BasalBoy
USA
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Posted - 11/04/2011 : 18:08:25
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| After several weeks using the cannabis oil, I didn't see or feel any cellular activity, but as you can see from the above photo, had to walk around looking like I forgot to bathe. Of course I could have used it on a single spot as when using more aggressive remedies, but I played with the oil before and found it non-caustic. I hope others will give it a try for perhaps a longer period. I guess we know we're old when we use marijuana medicinally rather than for recreation. Oh well. The experiments on my face continue in the thread What REALLY Works where I will go back to using the Cansema black salve I used for years and petty spurge I only tried once. Both seem to physically attack undesirable cells but leave healthy ones alone. The bad news is they are not painless, but in my process we will try to incorporate in the methodology ways to reduce discomfort. The adventure continues on the What REALLY Works thread, but hopefully the basal cells will eventually be left behind. |
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BasalBoy
USA
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Posted - 11/11/2011 : 19:59:04
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Cansema is now available again and after trying some of the remedies that seemed to show promise, they did not work for me.
It is possible they may have produced results given more time, but Cansema worked for me for the many years before taken off the
market and is available again. I now have a large active area that developed in the years the salve was unavailable and will see
how it does with this area. The current thread continues on the forum thread What REALLY Works. Join me there to see if we can
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