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annieh
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 Posted - 08/28/2010 : 04:55:27
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Hi
In my story about my scalp, I had mentioned that I was also battling skin cancer (or sun damage problems that have not yet progressed to skin cancer) on my upper chest. Photos below.
I have a skin condition on my upper chest that my usual derm. never touches as it was not symptomatic. -- I have NEVER ever had that area treated before, although it is obviously sun damaged (in my teenaged years it had been severly sunburnt and had blistered badly).
The area was treated with liquid nitrogen in early July by another doctor, but not a derm, working at a skin cancer clinic. Their idea was to freeze off one tiny suspect thing that they spotted with their fancy cameras.
The liquid nitrogen was applied rather "broadly" -- and the whole area became inflamed.
In fact, instead of the freezing making anything scab and fall off, the entire area became irritated.
I believe that was entirely because of the way that the liquid nitrogen was squirted on the chest area.
Well, dealing with the flare up it was then I used a few things, like coconut oil, but two things for my skin, were a real bad no no:
1 aloe vera gel -- it got heaps worse: it rose up full of raised pinkish bumps, with one or two tiny red open wounds.
2 apple cider vinegar -- it got even more raised bumps but this time they were white or pearly and the pain was extreme.
So I settled it down with paw paw ointment and calendula ointment mixed with coconut oil or rosehip oil, and left the area alone for a few weeks.
The area still had lots of slightly raised bumps.
In recent weeks, having let it all settle a lot, I have been applying petty spurge -- one application only followed by a rest for a week or two, and then applying it again.
The petty spurge produces a response in some areas -- it is sore, but not unbearably so as with the aloe vera and the cider vinegar.
On occasions, if it is too sore, I mix up one Advil capsule (I got the idea from another post elsewhere on this forum) with some calendula ointment plus some rosehip oil to soothe it and let it settle again.
Whatever still looks suspect a week later I then treat with petty spurge.
I think I am making progress. I cannot afford to go back to a doctor at the present time and also I don't want to make anything worse; I hope I am on the right track.
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Edited by - annieh on 08/28/2010 05:08:58 |
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annieh
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Posted - 08/28/2010 : 05:14:43
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By the way, I need to say that I did not start the home remedies right away. I have had liquid nitrogen before to treat things on my hands for instance, and know to leave the area alone so it scabs and heals.
But the chest area simply did not react like all the other areas treated in the past by liquid nitrogen had reacted.
Instead, the chest area was raw and red and pimply and stayed like that. It was then I used the remedies. I feel as if I am dealing with a flare-up, provoked by the liquid nitrogen but not adequately treated by the liquid nitrogen: OR they applied TOO MUCH? |
Edited by - annieh on 08/28/2010 05:16:02 |
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annieh
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Posted - 09/02/2010 : 01:31:13
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Re the subject line of my post: I am not at all knocking liquid nitrogen as a cure for things that an expert sees. But I would caution that it needs to be administered by an expert, or else, if applied inaccurately and in the wrong "dose" it can cause problems such as I have had (though they are clearing up now).
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Originally I had written:
Hi
In my story about my scalp, I had mentioned that I was also battling skin cancer (or sun damage problems that have not yet progressed to skin cancer) on my upper chest. Photos below.
I have a skin condition on my upper chest that my usual derm. never touches as it was not symptomatic. -- I have NEVER ever had that area treated before, although it is obviously sun damaged (in my teenaged years it had been severly sunburnt and had blistered badly).
The area was treated with liquid nitrogen in early July by another doctor, but not a derm, working at a skin cancer clinic. Their idea was to freeze off one tiny suspect thing that they spotted with their fancy cameras.
The liquid nitrogen was applied rather "broadly" -- and the whole area became inflamed.
In fact, instead of the freezing making anything scab and fall off, the entire area became irritated.
I believe that was entirely because of the way that the liquid nitrogen was squirted on the chest area.
Well, dealing with the flare up it was then I used a few things, like coconut oil, but two things for my skin, were a real bad no no:
1 aloe vera gel -- it got heaps worse: it rose up full of raised pinkish bumps, with one or two tiny red open wounds.
2 apple cider vinegar -- it got even more raised bumps but this time they were white or pearly and the pain was extreme.
So I settled it down with paw paw ointment and calendula ointment mixed with coconut oil or rosehip oil, and left the area alone for a few weeks.
The area still had lots of slightly raised bumps.
In recent weeks, having let it all settle a lot, I have been applying petty spurge -- one application only followed by a rest for a week or two, and then applying it again.
The petty spurge produces a response in some areas -- it is sore, but not unbearably so as with the aloe vera and the cider vinegar.
On occasions, if it is too sore, I mix up one Advil capsule (I got the idea from another post elsewhere on this forum) with some calendula ointment plus some rosehip oil to soothe it and let it settle again.
Whatever still looks suspect a week later I then treat with petty spurge.
I think I am making progress. I cannot afford to go back to a doctor at the present time and also I don't want to make anything worse; I hope I am on the right track.
Three photos:
Image 1: 27 July:
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Image 2: 3 August:
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Image 3: 19 August:
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annieh
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Posted - 09/24/2010 : 08:41:55
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Just an update:
It seems now that the chest area is a combination of two problems: one is a kind of dermatitis? and the other is that there are two or three actual bcc or AK spots only (I have had no biopsies yet to prove this is so). Until I can afford to get a biopsy:
-- As soon as I get up in the morning I am cleaning the entire area with tea-tree oil (not the concentrated form but the diluted, water-soluble form) and once a day applying a weak cortisone cream.
-- Later, on those three spots I am using Petty Spurge. After an hour or so it hurts like crazy but only for a few hours.
I will get some photos organised so I can see if this is really working... Thanks for listening and for all the petty spurge posts, they are most helpful.
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judych
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Posted - 11/23/2010 : 22:09:19
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anniah.....do you know if petty spurge is better than bloodroot paste?? it wouldnt have the zinc in it for a start....I did send you an email privately. regards judych
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Originally posted by annieh
Just an update:
It seems now that the chest area is a combination of two problems: one is a kind of dermatitis? and the other is that there are two or three actual bcc or AK spots only (I have had no biopsies yet to prove this is so). Until I can afford to get a biopsy:
-- As soon as I get up in the morning I am cleaning the entire area with tea-tree oil (not the concentrated form but the diluted, water-soluble form) and once a day applying a weak cortisone cream.
-- Later, on those three spots I am using Petty Spurge. After an hour or so it hurts like crazy but only for a few hours.
I will get some photos organised so I can see if this is really working... Thanks for listening and for all the petty spurge posts, they are most helpful.
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annieh
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Posted - 11/25/2010 : 19:31:34
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Originally posted by judych
anniah... do you know if petty spurge is better than bloodroot paste?? It wouldn't have the zinc in it for a start... I did send you an email privately. regards judych
I don't know anything about bloodroot apart from what I have read on these forums, Judy.
Petty Spurge and Sweet Orange Oil are the only topicals that I have ever applied by myself (and that is only over a six-month period -- so my experience is slim).
NB:
Judy, I think it is crucial to FIRST get your skin diagnosed, or biopsied, by a dermatologist
THEN you know exactly what it is that you are dealing with -- find out what it is, first: is it bcc, scc or melanoma, or solar keratoses, or whatever?
I ask because I don't think one can pick this or that topical treatment without knowing for sure what kind of cancer it is you are targetting: seems to me a bit of a shot in the dark without that knowledge.
Another bit of knowledge you might (or might not) need is to know is what is your skin or body system's acid/alkaline status (others on this forum have spoken about this). But a medical diagnosis is a crucial first step...
Cheers
Annieh
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