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busymom
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 Posted - 11/20/2014 : 09:54:43
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Hi everyone! Well, I applied the first round of black salve on Tuesday night (11-20-14). It immediately began to burn within like 3 seconds. However, I was applying it to an already open site because I had been using alternating treatments of the 35% peroxide, vit. C, eggplant, selenium for over a week. The black salve burned about as bad as the vit. C paste and stopped burning after about 30 minutes. During the day yesterday, I was feeling a "heat" type feeling on the site, and later I had a heat/burning feeling in my arms and hands and on the left side of my jaw (where I have an abscessed tooth, incidentally!) I cleaned the site after 24 hrs (according to instructions in the book Cancer Salves by Ingrid Naiman) and reapplied the salve, covering it with occlusive bandage. It immediately started to burn and has burned all night and is still burning. Thankfully, it is tolerable and even though I could feel it during the night, I was able to sleep fairly well. I will continue to update.
@ Anonkw - I am so happy that your treatments are continuing to work and that you are staying healthy. Since reading your posts, I am taking selenium internally everyday! I will probably use selenium externally on the site when it is in the healing phase. |
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gloe
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Posted - 11/21/2014 : 07:40:42
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WOW busymom, I admire your courage to try the black salve. My problem is on my face, or I would try it too.
Keep us informed! |
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cheryl21
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Posted - 11/21/2014 : 18:31:29
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Hi busymom,
I have been busy and hadn't looked at the site for a few days and what a surprise! I wasn't expecting that, it's very brave of you!
You're getting a reaction so there's obviously something there. How is it feeling now and how is it looking? Are you able to post any photos?
All the best with it,
Cheryl
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busymom
46 Posts |
Posted - 11/23/2014 : 23:23:42
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@ Gloe - I understand you being concerned about using the black salve on your face. I'm not sure what I would do. However, I have a friend who had surgery for a BCC on her face and they had to do skin grafting. She had to wear a bandage for quite a while and it's still not totally healed. The spot is right between her eyes. So, I don't know if the black salve would be any worse. I sure hope whatever you decide works out for you.
@ Cheryl - I have now treated the spot with black salve three times. Day 1, Nov. 18; Day 2, Nov. 19; and Day 4, Nov. 21. I followed instructions in Ingrid Naiman's book, Cancer Salves, and scratched /cut into the eschar with small sharp scissors before the third application. It did not hurt at all since the eschar has no feeling. She says to do this so that the application of black salve can penetrate through the eschar. Well, let me tell you, it worked! That was my first sleepless night due to intense pain and burning. However, you are probably very familiar with this since you have used the black salve. This is my first time. I don't really know what to do from here. I guess just wait for the eschar to continue to form and fall out? I sure hope I don't have to reapply the black salve, but I most definitely will if it looks like there is still any kind of growth. Here's a pic from this morning, Day 6 since beginning of black salve. It is very red and irritated around the perimeter and very painful as well.
OK, it's not letting me post the pic. But I was able to post a pic over on the Vit. C forum, so maybe you could check there and let me know what you think.
All comments/thoughts are welcome from everyone. Thanks so much! |
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gloe
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Posted - 11/24/2014 : 05:34:18
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Hi Busymom, I of course also wish you the best with your treatment. I thought that using Black Salve you only do it twice (24 hours apart) but you have a book for instructions, so go at it!
Most recently, I have used Petty Spurge. Also, I did a week of a mix of coconut oil and curcumin. That was extremely messy. The color orange/yellow spread all over my nose and the treated side of my face, in spite of my applying the mix with a Q-tip. Also all my finger tips and nails. After you stop using it, the color does wash off after a few days. But the mix seemed to ulcerate my skin, including what I though was "normal" skin around the sore. I had alot of bleeding in places that did not bleed before.
After the curcumin treatment, I went back to IP6 mixed with DMSO; leave on for about an hour or 2, rinse off and apply Argentum 23 Gel. This treatment is very soothing and my skin is healing up and not as irritated. All in all, the treatment area seems smaller now, but I still have one sore that tends to bleed, scab up, scab comes off and bleeds, scabs up again, etc.
I am working alot on oral supplements, in addition to large amounts of pancreas (pork, from ARG/Nutricology), I am now eating at least 30 appricot seeds a day. I take them 5 at a time, either on an empty stomach or with meals.
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cheryl21
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Posted - 11/24/2014 : 10:45:40
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Hi busymom,
I guess you just wait from here. I wouldn't think you would have to reapply the salve. At least not until the eschar falls out and you see what it looks like then. I hope you're not in too much pain now. Are you taking painkillers?
I sent you an email, did you get it?
Best wishes,
Cheryl |
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busymom
46 Posts |
Posted - 11/24/2014 : 21:16:47
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Hi Gloe! You know, I am not totally sure about how many times to treat a site. I think it probably depends on the individual case. In the book that I have, Cancer Salves, she urges that you scratch and/or cut into the eschar so that you can treat it again and the salve will penetrate through the eschar. She says this can prevent you from having to treat the site again after the eschar comes off. I am in enough pain, so I just figured I would treat it a third time and hopefully this one round of treatments will be enough to kill whatever is there and I won't have to go for a round 2. However, I guess I won't really know what it looks like until the eschar comes off and that doesn't seem like it will be anytime soon. The author suggests that you keep the site covered and not let it dry out, so that healing is slow and steady. Obviously, this keeps the area moist and so the eschar doesn't dry up like it would if it were open to the air. I have found that seran wrap works great to keep the area covered, but I can take it off anytime I want and clean it or dab some witch hazel on it, which feels REALLY refreshing. Then I just put a new piece of seran wrap over it. And, it's a lot cheaper than those occlusive bandages.
I have heard of Petty Spurge, but have not used it. I got some seeds from a lady in Israel a couple of years ago and I still have them. I was thinking of planting them this winter, since I read that the plant likes cold weather. How did the Petty Spurge work for you? Do you grow your own?
The curcumin mixture sounds interesting. I take this internally, but have not used it externally. Interesting, in the Cancer Salves book, Ingrid (the author) mentions turmeric many times and actually mentions adding it to the salves. She says it can also help with pain since it is an anti-inflammatory. So, since it is messy for you and caused irritation to your skin, maybe you could just take it internally and reap the benefits that way.
I have never heard of IP6. What is that? I have heard of DMSO, and I have some around here somewhere that I had used on one of my cows. LOL! I have heard good things about it. The black salve I have has DMSO in it to help with penetration. I hope what you are using now will work well for you. Are the spots you have melanomas or some other kind?
That is good that you are doing your oral supplements as well. I am familiar with the apricot seeds. I have eaten them in the past. I had ordered mine from Wilderness Family, which is also where I get my coconut oil. I am currently drinking essiac tea, dandelion tea, echinacea tea, taking garlic, echinacea, and goldenseal, as well as lots of vitamin D, curcumin and lots of B vitamins. Some days it gets tiring, but I do enjoy the teas. :-)
Hope you have a great Thanksgiving week and hope to see you on here again soon.
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busymom
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Posted - 11/24/2014 : 21:30:39
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Hi Cheryl! Yeah, I guess I will just hold for now and see what happens when the eschar detaches. Did you put any kind of salve on your site while you were waiting on the eschar to detach? I have used some homeopathic calendula ointment, orange oil, frankincense oil, copaiba oil (which seemed to help some with pain). I clean it with regular 3% peroxide and witch hazel. I have also put some coconut oil on it and around it, which feels really good and seems to help with inflammation.
I have been in quite a bit of pain. It is not unbearable, but it does demand attention. I do have some strong pain killers, but I only used those once, which was last Friday night after I had put the 3rd application of black salve on. I don't want to relive that night again any time soon, let me tell you. Otherwise, I am using some OTC pain meds.
Thanks for checking in on me. I did just check my e-mail and have replied back to you.
Happy Thanksgiving to you! |
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cheryl21
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Posted - 11/24/2014 : 22:24:28
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Hi busymom,
I used vaseline once, which worked quite well, but I didn't put anything on the other couple that I had, although they weren't bad at all. My naturopath has since told me to use coconut oil.
Yes, using the salve is not for the faint-hearted! |
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gloe
127 Posts |
Posted - 11/25/2014 : 04:21:23
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Originally posted by cheryl21
Hi busymom,
I used vaseline once, which worked quite well, but I didn't put anything on the other couple that I had, although they weren't bad at all. My naturopath has since told me to use coconut oil.
Yes, using the salve is not for the faint-hearted!
Instead of Vaseline, I can recommend something called Unpetroleum Jelly. It is a mixture of oils in a base that makes it somewhat the consistency of petroleum jelly (Vaseline) but without the petroleum products.
Amazon and health food stores sell it. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_0_8?url=search-alias%3Dhpc&field-keywords=unpetroleum+jelly&sprefix=unpetrol%2Caps%2C158
Happy T'day everyone! |
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anivoc
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Posted - 11/25/2014 : 05:33:42
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Hang in there Busymom. Over the next few days swelling should start to go down...it usually took around 2 weeks for the eschar to fall out and a month or so before I quit covering the wound.
I used neosporin my first go around...then chickweed salve on later years applications ( mostly bees wax and olive oil )
The saran wrap actually works pretty well but I cover them with flesh colored "Tan" 3m micropore tape to hold it in place. I buy the 2" wide and 1" wide rolls on e-bay
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gloe
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Posted - 11/25/2014 : 05:49:37
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Busymom, I wanted to come back and answer some of your questions.
I got my petty spurge seeds from the australia nursey that is posted on the petty spurge thread. How did it work? Until I used petty spurge, I did not have an ulcerated, bleeding sore that now won't heal. Before petty spurge, I had used a few other things, that my skin always recovered from. Perhaps I need to keep using it, but it does get tiring especially dealing with family members who are health care professionals and try to badger me into having surgery. One family member went into detail about how they would try to match my skin for a graft, possibly by taking skin from my neck. Thanks.
IP6 has known anti-cancer properties. It is not expensive, especailly just using it topically. I used the Enzymatic Therapy brand of IP6+ Insositol like Rocco did. Get the capsules as they can be easily pulled apart. There is dicusssion about IP6 and many other things on this thread: http://www.topicalinfo.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=146&SearchTerms=rocco If you take it orally, be sure to take it on an empty stomach. IP6 will bind to the minerals in your food, not something you want. Some people recommend waiting 2 hours before and after eating to take IP6. e.g. Eat at 6 am, take IP6 at 8 am; you can eat again at 10 am, etc. Using it topically, I found IP6 mixes very well with DMSO. You can make it into a paste using just a tiny bit of DMSO, or water it down some more, and it will just leave a whitish residue on yor skin which you can brush off.
Cucumin also has known anticancer properties. I would be willing to try it topically again, maybe being more careful to just get it in the center of the problem and not letting it spread around so much, although that is hard to do as it is mixed with coconut oil which tends to spread. So I don't know.
Need to leave for an appointment.
Best,
gloe
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anonkw
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anonkw
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Posted - 02/18/2016 : 23:37:38
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 Hello again!
I'm still alive and kicking from using the selenium treatment, but
I recently heard something which is good to keep in mind.
Apparently too much selenium in your system might result in
leukemia. I've put an enormous amount of it on my skin over the years,
and I think it might be true that it has difficulty getting all the way through the skin. It's probably okay to ingest a little of it, but
you should refrain from eating large quantities. |
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anonkw
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Posted - 08/01/2016 : 21:42:30
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Hi there!
Just wanted everyone to know that I'm still alive and well, and there's no sign skin cancer returning.
The selenium treatment appears to work brilliantly, but I recently stopped taking it internally when I learned that too much selenium can cause Leukemia.
What the heck, even drinking too much water can kill you, but I didn't think it wise to tempt fate.
Since I've been using it for years now, I still intend to use it on my skin though. |
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anonkw
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Posted - 02/04/2018 : 17:48:27
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Hi everyone.
I just thought I'd drop in to let you know that the treatment I've been using is still working.
I think it's possibly the most effective treatment available for melanoma.
One thing I recently discovered is that mixing it with water works better than Sorbolene.
It's less viscous, and is more readily soaked up by the skin. Just pore a little on your hand and rub it in. |
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anonkw
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Posted - 10/14/2018 : 04:28:29
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Hey again!
I recently noticed some signs that the melanoma was gaining ground again.
I increased the dose to twice a day and it appears to be working well.
I suspect that twice a day is probably the bare minimum treatment for a serious form of cancer like this. |
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