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SFBrian
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 Posted - 10/05/2007 : 04:06:17
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Over the past few months my skin pH has gone through the roof following an exacerbation of possible Lupus related inflammation. I'm going for a an autoimmune disease test next month and have a dermatology apt at a skin cancer center coming up in 2 weeks for a likely cancer spot (pearly mole in skin bed of palm that burns and hurts intermittently and hasn't gone away in a month). I'm starting to get erosions in the mucous membrane of the insides of my lips that coincide with canker sores. In short, my skin "feels acidic", I itch and rash easily and often, but my skin literally feels like a "citrus burn" 24-7. I took a pH skin test a week ago and my skin was 7.2. Because it seemed so ridiculous I took the test again carefully following the instructions to avoid a misread and it was 7.1.
I've looked all over the internet and can't find a sure fire way of reducing my skins acidity. I've been trying to eat alkaline food, like almonds and green phyto foods (barley, wheat grass) and even started taking prilosec OTC for stomach acid. My skin feels "chemical" and is caustic to the touch. Is there a way I can reduce my bodies pH?!! Help!
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fforest
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Posted - 10/05/2007 : 06:52:04
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I am not sure the best way to reduce acidity but a steroid cream will knock out the inflamation,and burn and itch in very short order at least temporarily ,if you got a real problem with this...
http://dermnetnz.org/treatments/topical-steroids.html
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This cream - Mometasone Furoate - works fantastic...I have used it many times on skin problems... |
Edited by - fforest on 10/08/2007 17:56:32 |
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dan
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Posted - 10/05/2007 : 09:02:26
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| SFBrian, can you describe your acidity test and what result you expected? Your readings don't seem out of line to me. pH ranges from 0 to 14, with 7 in the middle being neutral. Low values are acidic, high values are alkaline. In any event, what you are going through sounds pretty awful. |
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SFBrian
USA
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Posted - 10/05/2007 : 15:15:56
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Originally posted by dan
SFBrian, can you describe your acidity test and what result you expected? Your readings don't seem out of line to me. pH ranges from 0 to 14, with 7 in the middle being neutral. Low values are acidic, high values are alkaline. In any event, what you are going through sounds pretty awful.
Hello thanks for the response. Yes I am using mettler toledo portable pH tester which I purchased on ebay after the inflammations and rashes started. The pH-rangeis from -2.00 +16.00 and something called "mv" range as well. But the instructions say to adjust the sensor input is where it gets confusing. So I'm not sure if I set it correctly or not? I was told that pH over 5.9 is high . In any case I really just want to lower my skin pH without screwing with my immune system if its possible. Can this be done?
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Originally posted by fforest
I am not sure the best way to reduce acidity but a steroid cream will knock out the inflamation,and burn and itch in very short order at least temporarily ,if you got a real problem with this...
http://dermnetnz.org/treatments/topical-steroids.html
Sounds good but looks risky lol, I have Ketaconzale cream from a prescription from my last Dermatology visit. I don;t know if this would help with my "acidy skin" feeling but it was supposed to help with a misdiagnosed fungal infection (my skin is flaking and peeling and breaks easily). I take it the rest of the topical steroids are prescription as well?
Thx
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Mark
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Posted - 10/05/2007 : 17:46:17
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| SFBrian - I'm a bit confused by your post. It sounds backwards. Anything above 7 is alkaline like a couple of others have stated. So if you're 7.1-7.2, your skin is already alkaline. If you are wanting to make it more acidic, you have to lower the PH. 5.9 is definately acidic even on the -2 to 16 scale. Interestingly, most fungal type meds are indeed acidic (salicylic acid, undecylenic acid). So maybe you really have high alkaline skin and need to add some acid to balance it? The most natural acid I know of that might help you is plain 'ol organic apple cider vinegar. May not smell the best, but might be worth a try. Its been a huge help in getting rid of a deep BCC I have. Otherwise, if you still think you need a higher (more alkaline) skin, maybe try some orange oil. Or for stonger alkaline maybe you could dilute some ammonia with distilled water and apply it. I'd try small spots first either way though, as it might burn the skin. Also, regarding diet, it just seems to me its a big lag between eating good and your body finally repairing everything damaged by poor diet. I drastically changed my diet 3 months ago and just 2 WEEKS ago my BCC started to really reverse. Bottom line (in my opinion of course) is that you have to stick to a rigid diet for several weeks to gain all the benefits. A few days of good diet only scratches the surface of benefits. Good luck. |
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SFBrian
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Posted - 10/06/2007 : 01:55:29
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Originally posted by Mark
SFBrian - I'm a bit confused by your post. It sounds backwards. Anything above 7 is alkaline like a couple of others have stated. So if you're 7.1-7.2, your skin is already alkaline. If you are wanting to make it more acidic, you have to lower the PH. 5.9 is definately acidic even on the -2 to 16 scale. Interestingly, most fungal type meds are indeed acidic (salicylic acid, undecylenic acid). So maybe you really have high alkaline skin and need to add some acid to balance it? The most natural acid I know of that might help you is plain 'ol organic apple cider vinegar. May not smell the best, but might be worth a try. Its been a huge help in getting rid of a deep BCC I have. Otherwise, if you still think you need a higher (more alkaline) skin, maybe try some orange oil. Or for stonger alkaline maybe you could dilute some ammonia with distilled water and apply it. I'd try small spots first either way though, as it might burn the skin. Also, regarding diet, it just seems to me its a big lag between eating good and your body finally repairing everything damaged by poor diet. I drastically changed my diet 3 months ago and just 2 WEEKS ago my BCC started to really reverse. Bottom line (in my opinion of course) is that you have to stick to a rigid diet for several weeks to gain all the benefits. A few days of good diet only scratches the surface of benefits. Good luck.
Yeah my skin and my body in general are far too acidic. Despite the erroneous readings I'm getting from my pH tester as I apparently messed up the sensor input options. I've been getting inflammation of all kinds. skin rashes, joint and muscle pain, possible skin cancer, GERD, headaches, mouth sores - it's all inflammatory, it't all acid. I need to create a more alkaline state. So I'll try to eat purely alkaline food as you suggest. |
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fforest
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Posted - 10/06/2007 : 02:15:48
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Sounds good but looks risky lol, I have Ketaconzale cream from a prescription from my last Dermatology visit. I don;t know if this would help with my "acidy skin" feeling but it was supposed to help with a misdiagnosed fungal infection (my skin is flaking and peeling and breaks easily). I take it the rest of the topical steroids are prescription as well?
Steroids have a bad reputation from body builders... They will stop inflammation dead in its tracks..
If you do not use Steroids for a long period of time they are safe to use..They are not a cure but are very good at what they do...
The good ones are prescription but I am sure they can be found on the internet....
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dan
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Posted - 10/07/2007 : 16:34:20
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A pH meter seems like a fun thing to own, but calibrating, using, and storing the probes typically requires a lot of attention. I think most people are better served using litmus type papers. This excerpt was taken from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PH_meter
"The calibration process correlates the voltage produced by the probe (approximately 0.06 volts per pH unit)[1] with the pH scale. After calibration, the probe is rinsed in distilled, deionized water to remove any traces of the buffer solution, blotted with a clean tissue to absorb any remaining water which could dilute the sample and thus alter the reading, and then quickly immersed in the sample. Between uses, the probe tip, which must be kept wet at all times, is typically kept immersed in a small volume of storage solution, which is an acidic solution of around pH 3.0. Alternatively, the pH 7.01 calibration solution can be used, but this results in a need for more frequent calibration. In an emergency, tap water can be used, but distilled or deionised water must never be used for longer-term probe storage as the relatively ionless water 'sucks' ions out of the probe, which degrades it.
Occasionally (about once a month), the probe should be cleaned using pH-electrode cleaning solution; generally a 0.1 M solution of Hydrochloric Acid (HCl) is used [2], having a pH of about 1." |
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tahanan
USA
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Posted - 03/06/2008 : 22:12:44
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Have you heard about high alkaline water?8.5-9.5.  |
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anivoc
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Posted - 03/07/2008 : 11:17:42
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Originally posted by tahanan
Have you heard about high alkaline water?8.5-9.5.
Seems like this could be achieved easily by just adding baking soda to water |
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diabloguapo
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Posted - 07/14/2008 : 16:49:10
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The pH of your skin is much too alkaline. Normal skin is 4.5 to 5.5. Our slightly acidic skin helps to fight off harmful bacteria. By using alkaline cleansers (i.e. soap, or pH balanced cleansers, which have a pH of 7) you are stripping the natural acid mantle of your skin. Maintaining the skin pH at the proper level is vital to protecting ourselves from harmful bacteria which can lead to acne, infection, odor, dryness, or irritation.
Try to find cleansers and moisturizers that have a pH of 5.5. There are a few on the market and they will state on their labels their pH. Don't get hung up on natural soaps thinking that they are better for your skin. This is actually an instance when "unnatural" is better. Try Sebamed or Ombra cleansers and see what happens. Good luck. |
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trudie
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Posted - 02/03/2009 : 12:46:45
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| I have been reading about the PH levels and the acid mantle of the skin on this forum and am now confused. If the skin should be 4.5-5.5 and the body 7.3, how do you test the skin PH level? |
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Need to Reduce Skin PH Badly (am 7.2)
