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JimB
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 Posted - 02/02/2013 : 10:23:40
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I am starting a test today and documenting with pictures.
I have been using Coconut oil, Green Tea, Aspirin and D3. I have been somewhat pleased with the results. While not curing everything on my face lots of white skin is appearing around my eyes and around some of the nasty growths. Also couple of lumps have gone totally flat.
If you want more details on what I have been doing it is here:
http://www.topicalinfo.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1416
The attached link caught my eye the other day and I said why not give it a try.
Below the link I will discuss my method and attach starting pictures.
Please keep the viagra jokes to a minimum as I can think them up just as well as you.
http://japandailypress.com/japanese-professor-says-viagra-and-green-tea-may-combat-cancer-2822267
Author is Cherrie Lou Billones. More at Link but here is a quote:
"In 2004, Tachibana discovered that a certain catechin called Epigallocatechin gallate (EGCG) found in green tea could prevent carcinogenesis, that is, the creation of cancer. At the time, however, some researchers were doubtful of the catechin’s potency. Tachibana later realized that it could be the human enzyme PDE5 that is causing the ineffectiveness of the EGCG. Incidentally, erectile dysfunction drugs such as Viagra can effectively block PDE5. Thus, when the drug was combined with the EGCG from the green tea and was injected into a mouse with blood cancer, the effect was that the growth of the cancer cells halted. Even more astounding is when this was tried on a mouse with human breast cancer cells, the malignant cells completely disappeared. In terms of other types of cancer, like pancreatic, stomach and prostate tumors, the study showed that Tachibana’s treatment is more effective than conventional ones."
This will be my approach to start.
Currently, I am heating the CO to about 85-90F (glass jar in hot water) and putting 3 green tea bags in to brew the green tea in the warm liquid CO. It turns the CO green and brews in about 10-15 minutes. I will probably need 3 teaspoons of CO to cover the tea bags.
I will then take 50mg capsules of Viagra and add the contents one at a time to the Coconut oil Tea mixture. I will have to make a judgement call on how many capsules to use as it is not cheap to just throw lots in. I will not use D3 externally for the length of the test.
Shake the jar and put the green CO/Viagra/Green Tea on my face squeezing the tea bags to get them most CO out of them.
The image below has several lumps that have shrunk in height. The brown spots are scabs. The pen is there for a size reference.
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This image is a diagnosed SCC. It too has shrunk in size, brown area is scab and the pen is there for a size reference.
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JimB
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Posted - 02/02/2013 : 12:48:44
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Well I put it all together and on both areas only. Usually I would do the whole face but thought I might take it easy first.
Used 3 tea bags, 3 teaspoons of CO and 2 50 mg capsules. The contents of the capsules dissolved nicely but it does look like some precipitate is at the bottom now but not all of the contents are on the bottom.
Put the mixture on. Three unexpected things happened. One was the scab on the SCC dissolved and it looks like blood red skin is showing. Also below the scab a small amount of skin ripped open to show bright blood red skin. The scabs are usually from my pillow at night and not from any mixture or gentle application.
The other thing was the area got brighter red upon application than with the aspirin in it. This is probably partially due to the lack of the aspirin.
The third thing. I know you cannot tell from the picture but under the SCC scab was an elliptical lump that I could feel. It is now flatter than this morning but still there.
Here is the application picture. I may want to apply this at night.
I also feel that I should cut back to 1 50mg capsule or maybe dilute the mixture with CO. I have probably 4-5 days worth if I only do this one area because I only dipped my finger in and rubbed the area with my finger. I will probably make a decision on diluting after tomorrow nights application.
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JimB
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Posted - 02/04/2013 : 18:34:30
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Application 3 was done today. This picture is after about 3 hours after application.
Storing mixture in refrigerator to stretch out the use of the 100 mg of Viagra to keep costs down.
A couple of interesting items:
Notice the scab it was not there upon application or for an hour or so after. This lump has never bled like that before if ever.
The other item was that the next day after application and the area is dry of oil the area feels like it had been smoothed with an abrasion or like after using straight Apple Cider Vinegar. When I used just the tea and aspirin in the mixture my forehead area felt like grains of sand on oily skin. Those areas are now smooth but get rough as the day progresses and gets near application time.
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JimB
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Posted - 02/09/2013 : 13:08:10
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One week later. The 2 lesions on the right side of my face are scabbing daily and smaller in height which you cannot see.
About 3 days ago I made a couple of changes. I ran out of my initial batch of liquid CO with Viagra and brewed Green Tea. I stopped putting the mixture all over my face to concentrate on 2 lesions on the right side of my face.
I also got in some green tea extract from Vitacost.com 500mg tablets.
I tried substituting the green tea extract for the brewed green tea. What happened was a brown tar at the bottom of my liquid coconut jar.
So I came up with this method to use going forward to minimize the Viagra expense and utilize the green tea extract.
3 teaspoons of hard coconut oil melted in a jar by putting jar in 1 inch of hot water in cup. For Viagra use a fork to poke a hole in the end of one 50mg capsule of Viagra like a salt shaker and empty contents in warm liquid Coconut oil and swirl it until it mixes.
Poke hole in the end of the green tea extract capsule so it is like a small salt shaker and the extract can be shaken out but do not put it in the CO liquid.
With finger apply the CO and Viagra to the lesion. Then get finger wet again with CO and Viagra but this time shake a pinch of green tea extract on the wet finger and rub that into the lesion.
At this point you have a couple of options as that soaks its way into the skin in about 15 minutes. You can redo the above just to give it a double dose or just dab the area with oil as some extract is already on the lesion. I have done both.
Here is a picture to see how I am doing. Hope next weekend lesion will be gone but we will see.
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dan
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Posted - 02/10/2013 : 12:59:13
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| JimB, thanks for the really good reports! This continues be an interesting experiment for the rest of us to follow. I have an idea to think about, but feel free to ignore it! Consider adding the H2 blocker cimetidine (Tagamet) to the mixture. Cimetidine has very strong anticancer properties of its own but also acts to prevent PDE5 inhibitor breakdown, so you can perhaps use less Viagra for the same effect. Cimetidine is non-prescription and relatively inexpensive. http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2007/may2007_report_cimetidine_01.htm http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/cimetidine.html |
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JimB
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Posted - 02/10/2013 : 15:00:40
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Thanks for the great idea, Dan.
I will keep it in my bag of tricks when my Viagra runs out; which costs about $1.00 a capsule or less here
http://supersavermeds.com/
They sell generic drugs via airmail from India. I've been dealing them for probably 10 years for all sorts of meds, they are reliable.
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JimB, thanks for the really good reports! This continues be an interesting experiment for the rest of us to follow. I have an idea to think about, but feel free to ignore it! Consider adding the H2 blocker cimetidine (Tagamet) to the mixture. Cimetidine has very strong anticancer properties of its own but also acts to prevent PDE5 inhibitor breakdown, so you can perhaps use less Viagra for the same effect. Cimetidine is non-prescription and relatively inexpensive. http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2007/may2007_report_cimetidine_01.htm http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/cimetidine.html
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JimB
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Posted - 02/16/2013 : 10:50:54
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Here is a progress report.
Learning how to use my computer camera a little better. So the picture below shows the initial pictures from 2/2/12 on the left and the new pictures today 2/16/12 on the right.
On 2/14/12 by mistake I cut off the scab on the BCC blue arrow and then went up to the SCC and took off its scab and stopped treatment to let it heal. So for 2 days some of it was healing.
On the BCC black arrow I had started treating that area around 2/4/12 and continued until today, just because the mixture was dripping down to it anyway.
To the touch the SCC is 70% flatter than it was. That is great news because that was definitely up for MOHs surgery before I lost my expensive healthcare. It was more extensive earlier this year but I used H2O2 and CO and thought I had killed it but it came back. On 2/2/12 there was a mass underneath what you can see in the beginning pictures that felt like it was an ellipse measuring 3/8" wide 1/8" deep and 1/16" tall in height above surrounding skin. Today that mass is probably 3/8"x1/16"x1/32".
The BCC is about 30-40% flatter than it was when I started. That particular lump had 2 others next to it. All 3 lumps were like dried peas under the skin and almost looked like mosquito bites. The other lumps succumbed to various applications of Coconut oil by itself or mixed with one or more of these: melatonin, D3, aspirin, or brewed tea.
So this BCC is tough but I believe that I can take it down with the CO, GT extract, and Viagra.
So how did go?
Totally painless. Only discomfort was tenderness at the edge of scabs where the skin meets the hard scab.
Around 2/11 I felt that progress was slowing down because progress before that was more rapid.
I believe the problem with not having more rapid progress is based on the fact that the GT extract dries into a tar or cement type substance as rather quickly as time goes on. So the mixture does not get time to penetrate deep into the skin.
Working with CO in previous times, the CO could stay wet on my skin for hours with a good application. Now the GT extract hardens like a scab that can be washed away with soap and water. BTW the GT extract looks like a make-up foundation base so it will smear on your face if you let it. But it washes away.
Recently here is how I have been doing it. 50-100mg Viagra mixed in 3 teaspoons of Coconut oil. I put several drops of CO and V into a table spoon then sprinkle with GT extract and stir on table spoon with finger then apply to location 1 or more times per day. I don't believe the extra times or the 100mg works any better than 1 time per day or 50mg because of the drying problem that I mentioned.
So what I am doing this week is to stir into the tablespoon with the CO+V a couple of drops 5000 IU Vitamin D oil. Why? The D3 is fish oil based and will stay wet longer hopefully will not let the GT extract dry out also D3 absorbs though the skin to the blood stream so maybe it will take a little of the mixture through the lesions with it.
That is it until next week unless something comes up.
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JimB
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Posted - 02/18/2013 : 13:07:51
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Midweek report. Adding the D3 really helped.
Several things happened:
D3 speeds up shrinkage of lesions. SCC is now 95% flat. BCC probably 75% flat. Scabs seem to dissolve somewhat with D3.
The lesions stay oily longer and do not dry up right away.
CO/Viagra mixture with GT extract does absorb into skin better. The GT extract still goes on like make-up foundation and smudges but now the brown smudges completely disappear overtime by themselves because it appears that they are sucked into the skin with the D3, which is what I wanted. This did not occur without D3, I had to wash off the smudges.
The next morning after using the first D3 5000 unit soft gel cap a side-effect became apparent. The Viagra is able to reach the bloodstream with the D3, but the Viagra dosage is low.
The side-effect did occur repeatedly for a few days. But, I have started additional medication that may have counteracted this effect. So I cannot at this time verify an ongoing side-effect.
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JimB
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Posted - 02/20/2013 : 12:06:23
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Since the last post earlier this week, both the SCC and BCC have gone flat. The SCC first and today the BCC. There are still scabs and will be for a while but both are flat.
The BCC was probably 1/8" high this morning. I cut it shaving but applied the mixture anyway. Within 2 hours it had collapsed.
I have seen this before with other BCCs that have succumb to other CO mixtures. You may cut them, treat them, over and over, they get smaller and smaller then one day; boom they collapse. The BCC collapsed today but I will keep treating it.
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JimB
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Posted - 02/24/2013 : 10:25:31
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Well 3 weeks into this test and I am basically cured on the SCC and BCC.
Here is the report:
Lesions I treated with Coconut Oil, Viagra, Green Tea Extract and Vitamin D3 oil mixture are flat, much smaller than I started with and have some small scabs on them. The scab on the SCC is itchy. Believe that is a sign of healing. There is no detectable fibrous mass below the scabs as there was when I started and during the test.
The BCC and SCC were big and years old so they were the toughest and the ones I worried most about the most.
I worked on a small BCC on the left side of my face simultaneously with the same successful result but never showed it.
Two days ago I used the Mixture on my shins and a small area on my shoulder. On the second day application the lesions lit up like a teenagers' pimples, bright red. The surrounding skin did not light up but actually stained a brownish color. The brownish color wears or washes off. Since clothing covers it I just smeared it on instead of spotting as on my face.
The reason I mention my application on shins and shoulder was to reiterate what initially happened on my face. The face lesions lit up also and would bleed and turn into scabs daily.
So this may help answer the question of when to stop the application. I feel that I could stop application today; but I will continue as long as a scab forms on a daily basis.
Let me be clear about the word bleeding. There was no dripping of blood and at no time did the lesions open up like a massive raw moon crater. All scabs were formed at the center top of the lesion, even though you could feel mass under the scab there was no ruptures or pain.
The scabs usually come off after showering or shaving then reform after application and soak in occurs. So while I think I am cured the mixture says there is still some little amount of cells that want to come back. My guess is another week of application and the scabs will disappear. Like the scab on the left side of my face that peeled off and never came back is what I'll be looking for. I will post a healed picture when that happens.
If by chance some scar tissue remains, by applying the mixture and getting no flare up or scab that should calm any cancer concerns. The area could be tested with the mixture periodically to look for returning problems.
The final mixture I used was:
3 heaping Tablespoons of solid extra virgin Coconut Oil. I liquefied the CO with hot water externally on the mixture jar. Then two 50mg Viagra capsules were emptied mixed together with the liquid CO and stored in jar but not refrigerated. This could last 3 weeks if spot applied.
A small amount of liquid CO and Viagra was ladled onto clean tablespoon. One 5000IU Vitamin D3 softgel was cut and squeezed on to the tablespoon and about 2/3 of a 500mg capsule of Green Tea Extract was emptied onto the tablespoon. The mixture was stirred with my finger and spot applied to my face. With all 4 ingredients in the mixture on a clean tablespoon the total amount used once daily was about 1/3 of a tablespoon.
I just made a new batch today and I used 4 tablespoons of CO because I will be smearing it on and I believe that the extra tablespoon will soak up the residue viagra left with the 3 tablespoon mixture.
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dan
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Posted - 02/24/2013 : 15:20:07
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JimB, nice job! This skin cancer remedy appears to have worked as the skin does look much better.
Let me see if I understand the skin cancer remedy consisting of coconut oil, green tea extract, Vitamin D3, and Viagra. The final mixture used was:
3 level Tablespoons of solid extra virgin Coconut Oil, liquefying it with hot water externally on the mixture jar. Then two 50mg Viagra capsules were emptied mixed together with the liquid (greater than 76 degrees F or 24 degrees C) coconut oil and stored in jar but not refrigerated (because it would become very solidified). This amount could last 3 weeks if spot applied.
For each application, about 1/3 of a tablespoon of the Coconut oil and Viagra mixture was put onto a clean tablespoon. One 5000IU Vitamin D3 softgel was cut and squeezed onto the tablespoon and about 2/3 of a 500mg capsule of Green Tea Extract was also emptied onto the tablespoon. The final mixture of 4 ingredients was stirred with a finger and spot applied to the lesion.
Regarding the exact ingredients in case someone wants to give it a try: On the thread referenced at the top, you gave links to the Vitamin D3 and coconut oil products you used.
Vitacost Vitamin D3 -- 5000 IU - 365 Softgels - Mini Gels
http://www.vitacost.com/vitacost-vitamin-d3-5000-iu-365-softgels-mini-gels-2/?NttSR=1
Vitacost Extra Virgin Certified Organic Coconut Oil -- 54 fl oz
http://www.vitacost.com/vitacost-extra-virgin-certified-organic-coconut-oil-54-fl-oz-9
The Viagra came from supersavermeds?, although I don't see it there on their current webpage. Anyway it is a standardized chemical and dose. I think we are just missing the brand of green tea extract.
Thanks so much for the great reports. I am glad it is working so well and that you shared it with us.
As a final confirmation of a skin cancer cure (after things settle down for a week or two), my personal unofficial test is to apply orange oil topically and see if it stings after a minute or two. If it does sting (lasts for 20 minutes), to me that indicates there potentially remain some cancer cells and another round of topical treatments may be needed. The orange oil should not sting on normal skin.
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JimB
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Posted - 02/24/2013 : 20:26:36
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Thanks Dan. My success on this was only possible because I found your site and used the info on your forum to piece together the puzzle for my cancer.
As far as I can find on the Internet I think this is the first time that anyone has used this topical remedy on cancer, so that makes me feel really good.
Yes you have the procedure down. For clarification the amount of CO you put in the jar is about 3 heaping tablespoons and when you are stirring the mixture of CO,Viagra,D3 and GT extract it is about 1/3 tablespoon of mixture to dab about 6 spots. I dabbed it on and with a rotating motion to make sure each area was fully covered. If some liquid ran down my face I would wipe it off.
The Generic 50mg. Viagra capsules are is available here:
http://www.supersavermeds.com/viagra/
The Green Tea Extract is available here:
http://www.vitacost.com/vitacost-green-tea-extract-standardized-500-mg-300-capsules
I'm interested in the Orange Oil. When I went looking long ago I found that there were different chemical names for the same product.
Do you have a link for the correct version of Orange Oil?
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Originally posted by dan
JimB, nice job! This skin cancer remedy appears to have worked as the skin does look much better.
Let me see if I understand the skin cancer remedy consisting of coconut oil, green tea extract, Vitamin D3, and Viagra. The final mixture used was:
3 heaping Tablespoons of solid extra virgin Coconut Oil, liquefying it with hot water externally on the mixture jar. Then two 50mg Viagra capsules were emptied mixed together with the liquid (greater than 76 degrees F or 24 degrees C) coconut oil and stored in jar but not refrigerated (because it would become very solidified). This amount could last 3 weeks if spot applied.
For each application, about 1/3 of a tablespoon of the Coconut oil and Viagra mixture was put onto a clean tablespoon. One 5000IU Vitamin D3 softgel was cut and squeezed onto the tablespoon and about 2/3 of a 500mg capsule of Green Tea Extract was also emptied onto the tablespoon. The final mixture of 4 ingredients was stirred with a finger and spot applied to the lesion.
Regarding the exact ingredients in case someone wants to give it a try: On the thread referenced at the top, you gave links to the Vitamin D3 and coconut oil products you used.
Vitacost Vitamin D3 -- 5000 IU - 365 Softgels - Mini Gels
http://www.vitacost.com/vitacost-vitamin-d3-5000-iu-365-softgels-mini-gels-2/?NttSR=1
Vitacost Extra Virgin Certified Organic Coconut Oil -- 54 fl oz
http://www.vitacost.com/vitacost-extra-virgin-certified-organic-coconut-oil-54-fl-oz-9
The Viagra came from supersavermeds?, although I don't see it there on their current webpage. Anyway it is a standardized chemical and dose. I think we are just missing the brand of green tea extract.
Thanks so much for the great reports. I am glad it is working so well and that you shared it with us.
As a final confirmation of a skin cancer cure (after things settle down for a week or two), my personal unofficial test is to apply orange oil topically and see if it stings after a minute or two. If it does sting (lasts for 20 minutes), to me that indicates there potentially remain some cancer cells and another round of topical treatments may be needed. The orange oil should not sting on normal skin.
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JimB
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Posted - 03/25/2013 : 07:54:20
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Just an update. Stopped the test after about 30 days. The BCC healed up and the SCC hung on as a scab with some fibrous material under the scab.
I really was unsure when to stop the test. My gut feeling said to keep doing it until the scabs went away by themselves but after 30 days I was impatient.
For basically the same period I had been working on my shin and shoulder on some BCCs with more of a broadcast spread than spotting. The BCCs scabbed up and normal skin did not. Looking a lot like a pimpled area while I was doing it.
The results of BCCs in general was that the little ones went away and some of the bigger ones are still there as much smaller BCCs.
So what I am doing now is working again on the SCC by itself. Using a full 500mg capsule on my tablespoon even though I do not use all the mixture, I have a stronger level of mixture. One other thing I plan to do is remove the scab weekly applying styptic pencil mixture to shrink scab then remove. Should help with penetration.
Been working on it for about 1 week. I have one large scab instead of 2 smaller ones. I plan to work it until the scab goes away or 2 months.
Long term goal if this works out is to broadcast spread the mixture on sections of my face at a time to try and clear up some other areas of my face.
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JimB
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Posted - 04/05/2013 : 12:31:48
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I used a full 500mg capsule on my tablespoon even though I do not use all the mixture, I have a stronger level of mixture.
The mixture was a little too strong, doing its job but more aggressively and irritating me so I am backing it down to 3/4 capsule. I also tried during the day refreshing the dried area with more oil/Viagra. Probably also added irritation. So back to once per day 3/4 capsule of green tea extract 500mg capsule. |
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