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fforest
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 Posted - 06/18/2007 : 00:43:37
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I would like to give the head up on some soap made by lane labs called Skin Smooth Bar...Yea I know a generic name....Its 50% soap 50% a skin treatment...It will really help with any skin problem...
Ok its not a wonder cure for anything...
It works to slowly dry out the skin problem by its deep cleaning action...The soap has tea tree oil and a bit salcylic acid in it which are the 2 things that I think give it power...
If your using soap every day in the shower you might as well be treating your skin at the same time...Its about the only skin cancer treatment that does not hurt..lol......... I would love to hear if any one has tried this....
The cheapest place to get it is here... http://www.luckyvitamin.com/002110507493.html
More info here.....
http://www.pacwestserv.com/soapbar14_lanelabs_teatreetherapy.htm
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fforest
103 Posts |
Posted - 06/18/2007 : 07:10:50
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| I forgot to say I have been using it with good results.This will not cure any thing but it helps... |
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Mexico
55 Posts |
Posted - 06/18/2007 : 08:02:29
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Interesting - When I look at Lane Labs web page, I can only find one kind of soap http://www.lanelabs.com/products.asp?productID=antiAgingPhysician&pageID=supplement_facts
The ingredients list says Active Ingredients:
octinoxate (7%), oxybenzone (3.5%), octsalate (1.5%), avobenzone (0.5%)
Inactive Ingredients:
water, cetearyl alcohol, polysorbate 60, PEG-150 stearate 20, cetyl alcohol, behentrimonium methosulfate, dimethicone, glycerin, pentaerythrityl, tetracaprylate/tretacaprate, PPG-2 myristyl ether, propionate, wheat (triticum, vulgare) germ oil, borage (borago officianilis) seed oil, pantherol, d-alpha-tocopherol, retinyl palmitate, disodium EDTA, arginine, betaglucan, d-glucan, sodium carboxmethyl betaglucan, phenoxyethanol, methylparaben, ethylparaben, butylparaben, propylparaben, isobutylparaben
I am not always capable to translate the scientific terms into "normal" vocabulary, but I don't recognise Tea Tree oil or salicyclic acid in the list. I could not find any other soap type product. I wonder if they have changed their formula. |
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fforest
103 Posts |
Posted - 06/18/2007 : 11:23:14
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| I do not know why lane labs does not have this on their web site??..I have the box it came in and I and woops I ment to write green tea extract not tea tree oil(sorry)but it has salicylic acid in it for sure...Any ways like I said this will not cure any thing,but it has some great pulling action..It helps pull dead or crusty tissue out of a cancer site so it heals better..And it cleans good too...I would not bother to posting about this if it was just your run of the mill herbal soap..I am harsh critic of any thing that does not work... |
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Mexico
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Posted - 06/18/2007 : 23:03:22
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| "I would not bother to posting about this if it was just your run of the mill herbal soap..I am harsh critic of any thing that does not work..." I believe you! My comments were not intended to be critical of your post. I appreciate, respect and use all the experiences and thoughts you share with us in this forum. I was just curious about Lane Labs soap and could not find it on their site. It may be too new and it is not on the site yet. I tried their Sunspot ES and it did not do much for me. It burned and made a scab everywhere I tried it - even on totally normal skin. I stopped after 12 days because the burning was too strong and it did not seem to act selectively at all. But some people swear by it. We are all diferent and what's important is that we find "something" to heal these tumors. |
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dan
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Posted - 06/19/2007 : 00:14:04
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Thanks for the posts and the topic. The ingredients listed on the link are: Sodium palmate, sodium cocoate, water, glycerin, precipitated sulfur, salicylic acid, pumice, ascorbic acid, fragrance, betaglucan, algae extract, aloe barbadensis leaf extract, retinol, tocopheryl acetate, green tea extract, and loofah.
It seems like a pretty good list. Many people may not recognize salicylic acid as aspirin (an anti-inflammatory) or ascorbic acid as vitamin C or tocopheryl acetate as vitamin E or retinol as vitamin A. Green tea and aloe have known anticancer properties. Beta glucan is a naturally derived polysaccharide which has been studied for its anti-tumor and immune stimulating properties. Sodium palmate and sodium cocoate are derived from palm oil and coconut oil respectively.
Since we are on this topic, I have wondered if people that are prone to skin cancer tend to overclean their skin. By removing skin oils, one removes the primary mechanism for vitamin D synthesis from sunlight. Vitamin D is perhaps the greatest anticancer compound on the planet. I think this daily washing thing is a modern development and is perhaps overdone. I have tried to wait longer between washing especially if I have been exposed to the sun and have limited soap use. (Hopefully no one has noticed!)
Arguably, the cleanest people in the world are the Australians. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/02/17/the_odd_body_daily_shower/ They also have the world's highest skin cancer rates. Any thoughts on this? |
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rocco
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Posted - 06/19/2007 : 16:17:54
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<<<Since we are on this topic, I have wondered if people that are prone to skin cancer tend to overclean their skin. By removing skin oils, one removes the primary mechanism for vitamin D synthesis from sunlight>>>
I believe we, "modern" people of the western world, do tend to over bathe as compared to out ancestors. I have read that in the olden days that sometimes folks went all winter without a full bath (ugh). And, I remember even my grandparents and the Saturday bath comments.
Personally, I will stick to daily showers, but I have switched to a natural soap. I use Dr. Bronners pure castille soap (the one with peppermint oil in it). It is really awesome once you get used to it. Basically it washes away the dirt from your body and hair and leaves the oils. After a week or two of getting reacclimated to not being stripped of its oils every day your hair gets "big", and your skin really feels good. I also occasionally use the Kiss My Face brand, made from olive oil. It is OK, I prefer the Dr. Bronners though.
Anyway, my guess would be the you could be right about stripping away oils too often being bad....though when I used to get the majority of the sun (and sun damage) I was just a kid, and didn't necessarily wash my face more than once a day - it that! |
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rocco
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Posted - 06/20/2007 : 12:18:02
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This was the article I was thinking of when I wrote my last post:
http://www.fourfoldhealing.com/Q&A%20Dry%20Skin.htm
Here is a snippet regarding skin oils and washing that I found interesting (it is from a question regarding dry skin in winter)...
"Other measures that can help this problem include taking fewer baths, or showers and minimizing your exposure to water or soap. While this may cause social concerns, the traditional view was that our natural skin oils were too valuable to be washed off more than, say, once a week. In many traditional cultures, people didn't bathe during the entire winter! We do know that the oils on the skin are reabsorbed and recycled and do, in fact, have a nutritive aspect. As a compromise, a gentle dry brushing of the skin with a loofah then a quick rinse with just warm water can cleanse the skin and actually stimulate the glands to produce more oil. "
I had never heard that oils are reabsorbed and reused. I learn more everyday regarding nutrition and health, it is fascinating stuff, especially all the stuff your Family MD either would never tell you, or that he doesn't even know himself.
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Marla
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Posted - 06/21/2007 : 11:14:21
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I haven't tried the soap you are referring to in this topic, but I have just this week started using Vitamin C Glycerin Soap I purchased from http://www.outletnutrition.com. Along with this soap, I also purchased and am using Kiss My Face Organic Moisturizer C's the Day, and Organic Vitamin C with CoQ10 Facial Cleanser.
I felt immediate relief on my skin with the soap and lotion. My skin prior to using these always had a stinging sensation. I have very light, dry skin, absolutely no oil in my skin at all. Along with these lotions, I have started taking vitamin D3 1000iu, also purchased from outletnutrition.com. Their prices are very low and they carry every product I have seen discussed on this forum, other than Curaderm and PDQ Herbal. They have an enormous offering of organic, natural products. Just enter what type of product, or specific item you are looking for in their search bar and chances are, they will have it.
The facial cleanser is also fantastic. I have had numerous BCC's on my face. I recently treated 2 BCC's on my forehaed. I had treated them originally with PDQ Herbal, which didn't get all of it, and I'm thinking I just didn't follow-up after the first treatment with PDQ, as they both came back. So this last time I used Curaderm. It seems one of the BCC's may be cleared, the other one I'm not sure. Am watching both area's closely and if they are not cleared of BCC, am going to use the PDQ Herbal again. Between it and Curaderm, I like PDQ Herbal better.
I had a frightening experience with PDQ on my arm. I treated 3 areas at once. Two on my right arm and one on my right hand. The PDQ causes a blister, swelling and I have a lot of pain for about a week after applying it. Well, the two areas on my arm finally started to drain, so I decided to cover them with bandaids. BIG MISTAKE. I put the bandaids on, went to bed, and on arising the next morning, while removing the bandaids, the scab from the PDQ came off with the bandaids! I had deep craters at least a half inch wide and the sight of them almost made me pass out. I immediately emailed Skip, the guy who sells PDQ Herbal. Following his directions, these areas are almost totally healed. I was sure I would have enormous scars, but the one on my hand is really looking good, back to healthy skin, no scar and the one on my arm still has a small scab which should be coming off in a few more days. Anyway, after a few emails back and forth with Skip, I learned I was not using PDQ properly all along, even when I didn't cover the area's with bandaids.
You are to apply a drop of PDQ and rub into the area of the skin cancer with your fingertip. (I was putting a drop directly on the BCC and not rubbing it in. The area would raise to a high blister, then lots of swelling, which am sure contributed to the pain somewhat) Anyway, after the first application, wait 24 hours, then apply a second application the same way, making sure to rub the PDQ into and around the BCC. Then after the scab falls off by itself, you are to reapply PDQ one time, rubbing into and around the area again. If it still scabs and falls off, a third application can be applied and so on.
Anyway, try the Vitamin C Glycerin Soap and Kiss My Face C's the Day body lotion. It really does give relief to dry, itchy, stinging skin. They both smell good too!
I've also been taking Vitamin C 1000mg tablets once or more a day. They give you an immediate energy burst, but since Vitamin C is absorbed and passed through the body so quickly, you can take it every 2 to 3 hours. I may try some of the Vitamin C oil next on some problem areas which aren't BCC yet. Have been using Sunspot ES on them and they are better, but are still there.
Hope this is of some help to readers.
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Carlson
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Posted - 06/21/2007 : 23:34:05
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Marla,
How did you know these spots on your skin were BCC. Did you have them all biopsied?
Just curious because sometimes I can't tell if they are BCC or keratosis, precancerous.
Most of my spots are on my face and I am a little afraid of PDQ on my face even though Skip said it would be fine to use PDQ on my face...
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dan
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Posted - 06/22/2007 : 01:05:18
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Marla, thanks for all the information. Topical vitamin C has come up a couple of times here, and I found some interesting tidbits in a journal article abstract at http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1473-2130.2004.00067.x
"Topical vitamins C and E, as well as topical selenium, protect skin against sunburn, suntan and skin cancer and also reverse the mottled pigmentation and wrinkles of photoageing. However, only certain forms of these antioxidants are stable and active after percutaneous (applied to the skin) absorption. For effective topical application, vitamin C must be non-esterified, acidic, and optimally at 20% concentration. The level of vitamin C attained in the skin by topical application is 20–40 times that achievable with oral vitamin C. Topical application arms the skin with a reservoir of antioxidants that cannot be washed or rubbed off, a protection which stays in the skin for several days after application."
Please keep us posted if you try the topical vitamin C. |
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Mexico
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Posted - 06/22/2007 : 07:57:02
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Several years ago both my wife and I have used the following cream succesfully to make sunspots virtually disappear.
Dermagen C Vitamin C Cream from Genestra
Dermagen C provides a high concentration of transdermally-absorbed vitamin C to ensure rapid transport to deep tissue. Studies show that an adequate amount of vitamin C is vitally important in collagen formation, and for the repair and maintenance of joints, cartilage, ligaments, tendons and skin. Dermagen C is indicated for skin conditions, such as acne, eczema and psoriasis, liver and age spots, dermatitis and wrinkles.
Would it work for AKs or even help with BCCs ? I don't know.
Doing a little Google search about Dermagen C and skin cancer I found the following statement from an ND in Oregon:
“I suggest an antioxidant skin cream to be used at night to regenerate damaged skin. This is good for aging skin in general. I have one in my medicinary with vitamin C as a main ingredient. I find it to be effective for folks who have a history of basal cell carcinoma and are using it to prevent reoccurrence. It is called Dermagen C and is made by Seroyal.”
I used to get it from my doctor but it is also available here: http://www.costlessvitamin.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1421
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Edited by - Mexico on 06/22/2007 08:17:28 |
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Soap for Skin Cancer
