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dolfan
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 Posted - 08/28/2012 : 08:45:39
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You now have a new guinea pig with a ton of sun damage from the last 48 years of severe sun burns and daily exposure to never ending sunshine. I have an appointment with a MOH's surgeon on friday, for a spot (bcc) on my left temple. Two new spots have popped up since and I am thinking of attacking with some type of topical treatment. After reading stuff here for the last three weeks before I posted, I am very, very confused as to with direction I should take first. I wish it was not so complicated, but I'm glad that at least I have something go by. Thank you Dan for your hard work providing this forum for us.
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dolfan
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Posted - 08/28/2012 : 12:28:32
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| also, the spot that was biopsied is not even visible to the naked eye. Shold I wait till it starts getting bigger or take care of it now. It is this big (O) and is smooth to the touch. |
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dolfan
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Posted - 08/28/2012 : 20:10:57
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| In Miami, people often don't make eye contact or say hello and often they will try and run you off the road. I know you people are not like that, so if you are reading this, at least say hi, so that I know that you have a pulse and a heart! LOL of course, but a simple HI would be real nice right about now!!!!! |
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anivoc
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Posted - 08/29/2012 : 01:43:31
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Hey Dolfan
welcome to topical info...yes a lot of directions to go and for sure it is confusing..
Knowing what I know about what has been posted on the forums I would use the search function and study the threads on Petty Spurge, Bloodroot paste, Vitamin C, Orange oil. Those all seem to have picture documented success stories. There are others but these are the main stays.. There is a new poster who is talking about a caffein mixture that he claims really works well..but it is too soon to say if this is another real viable option..sure sounds like it could be but the proof is in the pictures of which to date there are none.
Again welcome and good luck on your journey to overcome skin cancer.
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dolfan
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Posted - 08/29/2012 : 05:30:58
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| Thank you Tom for stepping up to the plate. A succesful forum takes participation and leadrship, you seem to play that role quite well. Ok, enough with stroking your ego LOL, what about efudex? is that stuff safe? do I need to go to the North Pole to use it? I new this day would come. The never ending heat down here makes it hard to consider. Anybody else want to say Hi? |
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anivoc
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Posted - 08/29/2012 : 13:22:38
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Effudex....ugh
Not a fan from what I have read here..I purchased some online a few years ago ..expensive..still sitting in my medicine cabinet and Iwill probably toss it soon.. It kind of works but there are so many other things here that seem to work faster or better I just don't see it as a method I want to try or would suggest to someone else..
It's your body, your skin..you owe it to yourself to take the time to get up to speed on your choices and try to make a well informed decision.
If you spend 10 hours here reading you will have a whole lot better idea of what direction or path to choose..I think it's worth the effort.
Good luck! |
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dolfan
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Posted - 08/29/2012 : 19:29:41
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| I got some orange oil today and it stings in more than five places that I put it. I'm a walking BCC. Not funny, but it is what it is. The surgeon's office call about Friday and I said that I wanted more time to try other things before I go under the knife. She wanted to know what I was using. I told her C paste and other stuff. They want me to sign a release of liability. Tom, what is your ideal choice at this moment, for small areas of BCC? |
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anivoc
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Posted - 08/29/2012 : 21:03:45
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Just because it stings doesn't mean it is a BCC it could just be a an AK pre cancer...but if it burns it's an indication it's trouble.
I really hate to personally recommend because everybody is different, I have used Bloodroot and if you look my pictures it's nasty and it was painful..There are others here who have recently used bloodroot like our member Bonder with success..He had a HUGE tumor on his lip and has successfully knocked it out.
I have used petty spurge on a really small bcc with success and there are several people here that have had good luck with it and "Peplin" the pharma version condensed.
There's Some new users here posting some impressive results with Vitamin C paste..
And lastly there is a new poster talking about a combo of Caffein, red clover alcohol and DMSO..He's brand new here and touting that this is an awesome new technique..it's just an unkown..so for me..with some big daddies that I have been tryiong to knock out with a variety of concoctions with minimal success.. I have ordered some pure caffein and am going to see if what he is talking about works as well as he says it does...Here I go again..
I came here almost 10 years ago looking for a softer gentler way to deal with the lesions than bloodroot and became a poster child for it.
I still have a jar of it and know I can use it and get results but I am hoping to get to that nirvana solution...Soooooon.
With all the people and ideas that have come about I have a protocol that has eliminated a lot of the small ones and kept the big ones in holding pattern...
So you see it's just not easy to say hey use this or that. I have told you the ones I know seem to work but you REALLY need to educate yourself and make that informed choice on your own.
If I have amazing results with one of my concoctions I will definitely advocate trying it but the current solutions do involve pain and risk so I have to just say do your own due diligence.
BTW the derm saying you need sign a waiver...classic... what in the world for..It's your body and your decision..It's not like they told you to try alternative ways..crazy world we live in...
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waverider
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Posted - 08/30/2012 : 01:26:05
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Hi Dolfan:
I too got a laugh that they want you to “sign a release of liability.” Tell them you want them to sign one, too—so they can’t sue you in the event you cure yourself and don’t need their help. Nobody can make these decisions for you but I do take exception to any doctor who tries to rush me or attaches any sort of frantic urgency/scare tactic to getting BCC surgery done ASAP. Sorry ... it’s not an emergency. I know that’s a controversial statement. I know it has the dreaded word “cancer” attached to it, which adds a lot of gravitas and makes some people feel they’ve gotta do something NOW. But, truth is, basal cell skin cancer doesn’t require rush treatment. In my opinion (I'm not an MD) there's time to try other things.
I come from the petty spurge faction and if I had another outbreak like the previous three I’d do what I did before: Immediately start hitting it with high-potency Vitamin C paste to either wipe out the small ones completely (probably) and/or turn back the clock on any large ones and put them into a holding pattern. Then, in an unhurried way, I’d send off for some petty spurge seeds from Australia, wait a month or so to plant them in order to synch with the fall growing season, and cultivate my own natural chemo crop out on my patio. All the while I was waiting for the PS to mature, I’d keep up the pounding with the cheap, easy Vitamin C artillery. Then, once the plants are ready around mid-November, I’d nuke whatever’s left with a 5-day course of petty spurge. |
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dolfan
39 Posts |
Posted - 08/30/2012 : 05:31:09
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| Thank you Tom and WR, the first thing I ordered was the PS. then I ordered cymilium. I have been using regular vitamin C and would like to use what is recommended (mineral). I saw the buffered powder, but could find the word mineral on any bottle. Can somebody clarify the differance. I think I made the right decission on the MOH's for now, I just need to be able to obtain the weapons, growing PS worries me because it is so hot down here. |
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waverider
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Posted - 08/30/2012 : 22:22:03
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One of the first posters to successfully grow and use petty spurge on the big PS thread was in fact a guy with the screen name “SoFl” -- which stands for south Florida. You can find his posts starting on page 1 and then continuing thru the rest of the whole thread. He was really the pioneer, so to speak, to actually get the stuff from Aus, grow it and use it. Big encouragement to all of us at the time. Seems like he was growing it outdoors, but in early spring. However, the growing season in N. America is roughly Oct - May and it takes a few weeks to sprout. And he was right down there in your neck of the woods, so it apparently can be done in that climate.
I've seen the references to using mineral abscorbate but I think Dr. William Wassel, who along with Dr. Whitaker made the original posts on that topic, has commented on some of those pages and said that any type of ascorbic acid is equally effective, mineral or not. I actually crunched up Vitamin C pills from the 99-cent store! Seemed to work fine for me .... |
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dolfan
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Posted - 08/31/2012 : 06:08:24
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| Thank you again WR, I seemed to be getting good results with C tablets too. Orange oil seems to be the easiest to use for now. I had a spot on the back of my neck that has all but dried up after only a couble of days of using the stuff. I'm not crazy about the smell, but if it works then I will keep using it. Unfortunately, this became an economic problem as well. My copay for each visit went up to 70 dollars a visit and I had to look into ways to doctor myself. I have been using another forum for another health problem for the last 3 years with great success, so you will not hear the last from me for quite some time. |
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CarlosinReston
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Posted - 08/31/2012 : 13:55:50
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Originally posted by dolfan
...I seemed to be getting good results with C tablets too. Orange oil seems to be the easiest to use for now. I had a spot on the back of my neck that has all but dried up after only a couble of days of using the stuff. I'm not crazy about the smell, but if it works then I will keep using it. Unfortunately, this became an economic problem as well. My copay for each visit went up to 70 dollars a visit and I had to look into ways to doctor myself. ....
Hi Dolfan -- I grew up in Miami, so the Fins are my favorite team too. Sorry, didn't see your posts until now. Been hanging out in the Topical Vitamin C forum mostly. I'm glad to hear Vitamin C is working for you.
I really like the idea of using natural, self-treatments to cure these problems. My BCC is in my ear, and to have it removed would be a big deal -- involving the plastic surgeon and all kinds of heavy (and expensive) remediation that makes me reluctant to pursue that avenue. I've only been doing the VC once a day for a week, but am already getting results that encourage me to continue. I like the fact that others have posted about their records of success too.
Good luck with your treatments!
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dolfan
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Posted - 09/01/2012 : 19:00:20
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| Have you ever been to Doctor Rosen? He is a good Derm, who knows his stuff and has seen it all. I have not told him about this site and my future plans of not doing MOH's. I hope he does not give me attitude. I knew it would come down to this one day, when this stuff started popping up. |
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