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Bawarchi
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 Posted - 10/23/2007 : 04:41:40
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I just found this forum tonight after getting the biopsy results a week ago for the little dark spot just above my lip: BCC. I guess I'll postpone the excision appointment for now and start my eggplant treatment tomorrow.
Could someone tell me what the potential cons of excision are for removing a small BCC? It's the only option my GP gave me.
Also, does anyone know if it matters whether I keep shaving or not? The BCC is in the mustache zone.
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anivoc
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Posted - 10/23/2007 : 20:15:57
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Originally posted by jan
I've been reading all the postings with much interest. I haven't seen anybody checking in for about a month now, and I'm wondering how the eggplant treatment has worked for all of you.
I have a question: would freezing the eggplant mixture be detrimental to its potency? I made up a batch (blended) and there's so much of it I wonder if it will go bad in the refrigerator before I use it up. My BCC is only the size of a pea. This site has been VERY HELPFUL. Thank you so much for all your inputs.
Hey Jan
Rocco, Dan and FForest have all had complete eradications of their skin cancer problems as I understand it. Correct me if I'm wrong guys)
For me the jury is still out. There is no doubt the eggplant is helping at least subside the growths. I am beginning to believe that the combo approach may be needed.
Keep in mind that none of these treatments are as painful or dramatic as bloodroot paste. You put bloodroot paste on and you are going to get an immediate and dramatic reaction. Used properly it will do a very good job, definitely better than a blind excision ( trying to remove a growth with out the Mohs procedure ) Nearly as good as a Mohs procedure with much less skin loss. Very painful, swelling and at least a month of bandages.
That said I have done the Bloodroot several times now. Though I have had success, over a period of years they come back. Not exactly where the original was but in the region. I would assume it is going to be the same with Mohs because most of us with AK &BCC issues have damage all over our face, head, neck, shoulders and arms..and sometimes lower trunk.
I am seeking a softer gentler way to achieve better results and think we are on the road to success here.
Here's the things that I feel have done some good.
(Do it your self stuff)
Eggplant w/vinegar sauce
Broccoli Flowerette sauce
vinegar juice left over from pickling the eggplant
Orange Oil
Baking Soda
Vinegar
Turpentine and or pine tar pitch
Caffeine
liquid tylenol
(Over the counter creams)
Cymilium ( who knows what the magic bullet is?)
Sunspot ES (active ingredient BEC5 from Eggplant)
Curaderm (active ingredient BEC5 from Eggplant)
On the pharma side.
Aladara
Effudex 5% flourocil
DMSO as carrier with most any of the above.
In regards to your eggplant sauce. I have kept about 3 cups of the sauce in a tupperware container for over a month kept unrefrigerated. No problem. The vinegar pickles the eggplant.
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wanthealth
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Posted - 10/27/2007 : 13:19:23
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| I am so glad to have found this forum. I'm always looking for natural or home remedies as alternatives to today's flood of drugs on the market. At the same time, I'm not entirely against the newly discovered effective treatments, and have just two more days left on an Efudex treatment (actually just the generic flourouricil). It has been quite an experience! Very much redness, various discomfort and itching, and now just starting some rawness with oozing. Yuk. Hope lots of AK and BCC are killed off by this cream! This site and especially all of the info about eggplant & vinegar has given me some encouragement in my intent to fight against my skin cancer in an ongoing way - naturally. Thank you all for posting! This also fuels my desire for a formal education in the health field - at this point a dream still, but maybe someday a reality. It's never too late - right?! |
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delhiski
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Posted - 10/31/2007 : 22:48:38
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I completed my treatment of actinic cheilitis late July using Aldara cream, 3 times per week for 8 weeks. Very difficult treatment. Eats your lips off. My lips bled, large areas of skin came off and eating anything became a chore as you could not bite anything. Wow, you sure get a rude awakening on how important your lips are. Well that brings me to now.....My AC is back, I just went to my Derm Monday with a noticeable spot on now my upper lip and he confirmed it to be AC returning and is concerned on why it is back with the dramatic treatment of the Aldara cream??? There is other wide spread of AC on other parts of my lips and dryness, tightness on both upper and lower lip.
Next move is seeing a specialist at Mayo Clinic, Rochester. I have read all of your folks postings and have found them to be very informative and interesting. I will admit I am concerned at what the next potential steps may be for me? Any of you think the Vinger / eggplant treatment can work on the lips? Is teh orange oil to harsh for the lips? Sounds like it but wanted to get the groups consensus!!
Any thoughts on what the specialist may do to rid me of the AC? What should I guard for against for Treatment?
Any help or thoughts from you all on the AC would be greatly appreciated.
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SoFl
USA
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Posted - 11/02/2007 : 09:37:11
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Originally posted by delhiski
I completed my treatment of actinic cheilitis late July using Aldara cream, 3 times per week for 8 weeks. Very difficult treatment. Eats your lips off. My lips bled, large areas of skin came off and eating anything became a chore as you could not bite anything. Wow, you sure get a rude awakening on how important your lips are. Well that brings me to now.....My AC is back, I just went to my Derm Monday with a noticeable spot on now my upper lip and he confirmed it to be AC returning and is concerned on why it is back with the dramatic treatment of the Aldara cream??? There is other wide spread of AC on other parts of my lips and dryness, tightness on both upper and lower lip.
Next move is seeing a specialist at Mayo Clinic, Rochester. I have read all of your folks postings and have found them to be very informative and interesting. I will admit I am concerned at what the next potential steps may be for me? Any of you think the Vinger / eggplant treatment can work on the lips? Is teh orange oil to harsh for the lips? Sounds like it but wanted to get the groups consensus!!
Any thoughts on what the specialist may do to rid me of the AC? What should I guard for against for Treatment?
Any help or thoughts from you all on the AC would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Dan with Bum Lips!!
I have been having lip issues for years now. I had a scc in situ removed surgically about 15 years ago and have had to use efudex repeatedly for ak along the lower border of my lower lip. The efudex treatment on the lip is terrible and doesn't seem to be all that effective because the problem returns in about a year or even less.
I am now using something new called solaraze. It doesn't eat your lip up like the efudex or aldera. I'm supposed to use it for 90 days. I've been using it for about 30 days now and my lower lip feels better than its felt in years. There have been many days where it feels 100% normal and that is a first in many years.I still have two months of treatment to go but I am very encouraged because this doesn't eat up your lip to do it's work. It's a NSAID anti inflammatory drug. They don't seem to know exactly why or how it works on skin cancer but it is approved for that use.
I also tried the eggplant mix on my lip and I like the solaraze much better. I put it on with a small paint brush last thing before I go to bed at night. Ask your doc about it....mine had never used it on a lip before but I'm sure he's going to start when he sees how well mine is doing.
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drbeckl2
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Posted - 12/02/2007 : 23:41:31
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Hi; -
For people with skin cancers, that are worried, and frantic, that they mite not find a cure for their skin cancers:
Do not fret; The cure for skin cancer already exists. It does not have to be invented. It is here now. It has a clinically proven cure rate of 98% on external cancers. It is also used by some on internal cancers. It has existed for 200 to 300 years. It is called the hoxsey salve, black salve, cansema, compound X , etc. It contains zinc chloride + bloodroot + other herbs. It will hunt down and destroy any cancer it comes in contact with.
It causes some burning senstation while it is on your skin, but it is only on your skin for 8 to 24 hours. Most skin lesions need only one application. Sometimes, there is a need for a 2nd application at the site if it looks suspicious after it heals, in about 2 months. It does not harm healthy skin. You do not have to fear that it will damage your good tissues. [But sometimes the cancer is much larger than what appears on the surface of the skin, and the wound left after the salve is used is also much larger than is expected. ]
It is superior to medical surgery, and mohs surgery. [ mohs took the hoxsey salve and created a convoluted protocol out of it, and made something simple into a complicated procedure ] It takes no healthy tissue. But The surgeon will take extra tissue beyond the cancer to make sure he gets it all.
From what I am reading in this forum, the "kinder and gentler" cancer salves are not less painfull than the Hoxsey salve. They are instead more painfull, more time consuming, and not dependable. And the cancers come back in quite a few people using them. From what I am casually reading, they do not work reliably.
There are now several websites that show how to use the hoxsey salves, complete with step by step directions, and plenty of photos. Do a google search on "cancer salve" , "black salve", cansema, to find those wibsites.
Before you use the salve, or buy it, go to CancerSalves.Com , and buy the book by Ingrid Naiman, for $28.00 or so. It will explain everything., especially how to do the bandaging. It is well worth the money .
The various salve formulas will cost you about $50, will do about 20 small cancers. The black salve kills the skin cancer down to its roots, and the cancers do not come back later.
If you are a person with a hundred small skin cancers on you, then don't treat but one cancer at a time., If you have a lot of cancers, then you need to realize that the problem is internal, then you need to take a internal blood cleanser, and clean your internal systems out, and try to rid yourself of the poisons that are causing the skin cancers to manifest on the surface of your skin. CureZone.Com has many forums dedicated to cleaning out your system, Kidneys, colon, liver, blood, parasites, etc etc. That would be a good website to start on.
If you have skin cancer, and are not too scared and frightened of not finding a cure, .... then you can relax and experiment with the natural substances and compounds that other skin cancer owners are experimenting with. But if they fail you, then you know you can revert to the proven hoxsey salves, before things get too far out of hand.
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disclosure: I do not sell hoxsey salves, I do not own a interest in any firm that sells hoxsey salves. I am not a doctor. I have used the salve in the past.
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anivoc
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Posted - 12/13/2007 : 12:02:16
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Originally posted by drbeckl2
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disclosure: I do not sell hoxsey salves, I do not own a interest in any firm that sells hoxsey salves. I am not a doctor. I have used the salve in the past.
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Hi drbeck12,
If you go the pictures page you can see for yourself how bloodroot works.
I know VERY well first hand.. I am not a doctor either but I DO have skin cancers, HAVE used Bloodroot and definitely am trying to find a softer gentler way than Bloodroot paste..
Though the methods here still cause reactions and pain the intensity and reaction are not even close to as painful.
I admit I am less than happy about my success so far but I have made some progress using a variety of ideas posted here.
Though not perfect I have had some success with sunspot es. curaderm.
The eggplant vinegar though it does seem to do "something", I have had just as good results with just vinegar. I knocked out one AK for sure with just vinegar.. Can't say why it worked on one and not all the others.
Anyway you are right Blodroot is very effective..But it is also VERY painful and can leave serious scaring. Albeit so does surgery.
Lastly neither Surgery or Bloodroot is 100% guaranteed. Skin cancer can reoccur using either procedure. Generally if you have skin cancer you have a lot of damage in your exposed areas and your immune system is not strong enough to suppress the skin cancer meaning your going to continue to get them unless you can strengthen your immune system.
I need to rant more on this but need to get off to work..
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thanks01
USA
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Posted - 01/18/2008 : 20:24:32
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I have just finished creating a new thread under the "Skin disorders, treatments, and surgery topic." titled 'BCC “Case History, 2007”.' I copy out a section here pertaining to the EGGPLANT-VINEGAR mixture:
Observing the Eggplant-Vinegar Mixture:
I made the eggplant-vinegar mixture pretty much as indicated on the website. I did use apple cider vinegar but I did not use organic eggplant. I puréed it the best that I could, although the seeds remained. Later on I strained the purée, which is quite timestaking with the raw eggplant, but gives a much more manageable mixture. I kept the mixture in the refrigerator most of the time, but not always. Neither leaving it out for a few days nor letting it get fairly old seem to hurt it.
I started by applying the eggplant with a bandage over the spot, ordinary easy-pull-off bandages (not the stick-tight variety), or the micropore tape, sometimes even masking tape. This worked fine on my wrist, but I found that when the bandage held the mixture near my eye either the fumes or the liquid spreading on my skin or my eyelashes spreading it caused irritation inside my eye. This was tolerable but did not seem to be a good idea.
Next I tried “swiping” the mixture over the main spot as often during the day as I could remember to do it. I think this is when I made the least progress, probably because the quantity was just too thin. Later I went back to applying a good-size “gob” of the stuff over the spot and letting it just dry in place and stay there without a bandage. As one poster to the website mentioned, it seemed that each time the dried-up remainder of the gob was removed some skin peeled off and there were signs of improvement.
Regarding the changes in the spot, as one poster said (FForest, I think), almost as soon as I started with the mixture there was increased definition in the area. My BCC (size of a dime) had at that time left the “crater” stage and gone to a “pearls” stage. After applying the eggplant mixture, these pearls became more visible and seemed to separate from the spot. Over the weeks that I continued, I would say that the “pearls” slowly shriveled, disintegrated, and peeled off, although not completely.
In the middle of the treatment I had to return to the cosmetic surgeon for some questions about the biopsy. I quit using the mixture a couple of days before so that my face would look a bit more normal. And I think it was when I resumed that I started the “gob” application. It seemed that the quantity of mixture now at times was almost too irritating. The entire area of the actual spot and perhaps some places nearby were getting quite sore and red. This is probably desirable, but it leads me to suggest what I next tried with the break for the doctor visit, namely, “taking a vacation” once in a while and letting the surrounding skin kind of catch up and be more generally healthy.
My experience overall favors the “long and slow” approach, if and when I ever have another spot like this to deal with. I understand the concern about penetrating the depth of the spot, which is not named “basal” for nothing – it comes from the base of the skin. But a gradual exfoliation, worked on constantly, with “vacations,” seems constructive to me. Someone might reply that the reason I ultimately required the operation at the end of two months is that I had not reached the depth of the cancer. And I would say yes, that is why more time would be needed, but to have gone “faster” and more destructively did not seem to be a good idea. I think that I got better progress the other way.
For several days before the scheduled day of the Mohs surgery I once again “took a vacation,” to reduce surrounding inflammation and present a good appearance. I hoped to win the doctor over to let me continue as I had with the natural treatments. My personal observation was that the “pearls” had been reduced to very small pinpoint scabs, truly smaller than before, and almost peeled off entirely. Behind the “pearls” there still seemed to be a darkly red color to the original spot which looked different from normal, even reddened, skin.
Requiring surgery, after all:
I kept to the original schedule, but I did at least ask the Mohs surgeon whether she really needed to do the operation, and whether it might be so slight that she herself could stitch it instead of my needing the cosmetic operation the next day. She kindly replied that she did indeed see improvement in the spot, but that she still felt it needed the operation. I trusted her enough to believe her, and put my incomplete success down to lack of time.
During the operation she did a “first pass” and found “firm perimeters,” which was encouraging. She told me that she needed to take a “second pass” for depth (meaning mere fractions of an inch). She also said that the area worked on required that I have the repair done by the cosmetic surgeon the next day. So I complied with both scheduled operations. I feel the surgeons did their respective jobs very well. Since I am still healing, the final result is not clear, but the cosmetic surgeon worked very delicately. All people involved were very kind and skilled and I do trust them. I am sure that these well-trained scientists are needed in some cases, especially where the cancer has been allowed to make too much progress.
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luckylouie
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Posted - 01/19/2008 : 23:13:46
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I read the earthcure post regarding eggplant vinegar and here is my experience using it. Firstly let me say, I do not have skin cancer. I had a small sunspot on my right forearm, which had been there for over 10 years, along with an age spot on my left cheek, also around 10 years old, which had a flat, slightly scaly feel which was not obvious unless you felt it or caught it in just the right light. So my experience may not be particularly relevant to many people on the forum. I also had a couple of other age spots on my face and my main reason for using the eggplant vinegar was to get rid of these.
I had also read that onion juice would get rid of age spots. I blended some eggplant and onion with apple cider vinegar, popped it in a glass jar and left it for a week or so. I then strained off the vinegar, diluted some of it with rosewater (about 20% vinegar and 85% roseswater) and left some of it at full strength. I used the diluted mix every evening over my whole face, neck, hands and forearms as a toner, followed by a spot treatment on the actual age spots with the undiluted mixture.
After a week I noticed the age spots on my face had gotten darker and a couple of others had appeared. After two weeks I found that they were getting slightly rough and scaly in texture. Once again this would only be noticable by touch, none of this is very major. I had very minor peeling and the older age spot began to flake small thick scaly skin. After three weeks the other age spots began to react the same way. The rest of my skin remained healthy and did not appear to be adversely affected by the mix. However remember I was applying only a very diluted mixture to the whole face/neck etc. The acid did work as a very mild chemical peel and the skin wherever I used it became smoother and fairer in colour.
I continued this for three months and most of my age spots disappeared completely. The same treatment did not work for the sunspot on my arm. The top layer of skin became thicker and white in colour, while underneath became slightly red and irritated looking. After three weeks I changed tactics. I used a pumice stone to gently remove some of the top layer of thickened skin every couple of days, and used the undiluted mixture twice a day. At the end of three months the sunspot has decreased in size by 80% and there is no more thickening of the skin, just a faint red spot. I will continue applying the undiluted mixture twice a day and see what happens.
The only other change I made to my beauty routine was to use Olay Age Defying revealing day cream, once a day, under my sunblock. This contains 2% salicylic acid, and I was using it in order to get rid of some blackheads that were being caused by the thickness of my zinc oxide sunblock. The exfoliating action would, I suppose, have increased the exfoliating action of the vinegar mix.
For the record I am 44 with combination skin, but a tendency towards broken thread veins. This did not make them worse, and before using the mix on my face I did a test spot on my chest every day for a week to make sure it would not. |
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David
USA
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Posted - 01/20/2008 : 08:58:41
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| I am new to this so forgive ignorance please. 63 year old fair skinned red head. Lots of skin damage by sun. Got prescription for Flouraplex 1% from general practictioner with no specific directions for use. Have been appying to face and hands for 12 days. No real effect on hands as yet but many red spots on face. Two areas are know open. Do I continue appling and if so for how long. Or should I discontue use and see what happens? I was thinking of stopping and start using Neutrogenia nigght serum. |
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claire
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Posted - 02/06/2008 : 21:33:37
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Hi,
Background Info: I've had AK on the backs of my hands for about 10 years and AC on my lower lip for about 7 years. I used to have the doctor freeze the more troublesome spots (raised, or never healing) on my hands, which worked for all except two such spots, but nothing was ever done on my lip as my doctor seemed not to notice the severe chapping (it would come and go) and I was unaware that it was linked in any way to whatever was happening to my hands. Given the length of time I've had these problems, and my age (69),I think they have not become as severe as they might have. This is probably because I've been on a very strict anti-cancer diet for the last five years and consume, among other things, about two quarts of vegetable juice every day. (I know the juicing removed the age spots on my hands.)
Right now, my hands aren't bad at all. There are some light reddish areas, but nothing raised or ulcerated or scaly. Some of that healing I attribute to the use of iodine (I read it was used by a doctor in Rome to cure skin cancer) and magnesium chloride. But I wasn't using those products on my lip as I worried about how much they burned. Then, recently, with a very bad cold, my lip got very bad -- with a rather deep fissure. That's what drove me to this site.
I'm very grateful to have learned about eggplant and vinegar. I found that, like others here, that the burning is minimal and the site looks better right away. I pureed a small eggplant, added about 1/4 C apple cider vinegar, and let it sit for a couple of days. Then I packed it on my lower lip by keeping my lips closed (pushing the stuff up against the upper lip)and covering the band of puree with some Glad Wrap (safest brand to use). I hold the Glad Wrap in place with a circle of stretch fabric that runs from the top of my head down over my ears and across my lower lip and chin. I keep it on for a couple of hours. It does of course make me look ridiculous, but that's fine for when I'm home.
When I'm going out, I just rub some of the liquid over my lips and add a bit of sticky honey (YS Organic, *unheated* which is highly anti-virus, anti-bacteria and anti-fungal) The honey may sting briefly but then is very soothing (especially if I have applied iodine, which I still do) and also moisturizes the lip and makes it easier to stretch (as in smiling :))
There seems to be some disagreement as to the source of AK and AC, but aside from too much sun (which I think must be linked to at least one other factor), I think in my own case there is a likely connection to staph. An overgrowth of staph caused the acne I had most of my life, the rosacea that developed later in life, and the bletharitis (sp?) that has infected my eyelids. (Though these three problems have become virtually non-existent now through diet and lifestyle.)
Well, I've written a small book, but I wanted to post to share what has helped me and to express my gratitude for the new ideas I found on this forum.
Claire
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dan
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Posted - 02/07/2008 : 22:56:24
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| Claire, thanks for the post. It's great to hear about your treatments and that they are working. You list vegetable juice, iodine, eggplant & vinegar, and honey (leaving out Glad Wrap!) as being helpful. Good natural stuff, and you can't beat the price. You may also like coconut oil which has lauric acid, known for being anti-viral, antibacterial and anti-fungal. |
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claire
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Posted - 02/08/2008 : 20:10:49
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Dan,
I forgot to mention c.o. which I've been using for years internally and externally. I actually order 5 gallon drums at a time. It mixes nicely with my honey/eggplant juice-lipstick. :) |
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anivoc
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Posted - 02/09/2008 : 12:41:08
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Hey Claire
Not sure if you are already aware of it but there is a special Honey from New Zealand / Australia that is supposed to have superior healing and antibacterial properties called Manuka Honey.. hard to find here in the states but it is around.. There are different levels of healing properties in various brands so you need to educate yourself on it before you buy. |
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claire
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Posted - 02/10/2008 : 12:15:20
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Anivoc,
I did actually try this honey about 3 or 4 years ago, but I had some problems digesting it. I might be okay with it now (my health being improved), but to get the "certified" version (not all the Manuka honeys are equally potent)means paying very big bucks for very little amount. As it is, the YS stuff is expensive for me. I buy it in cases since I use about 2-3 oz. a day.
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Allen
USA
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Posted - 02/10/2008 : 17:11:21
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Tried it for AK. Didn't do a thing.
Blended an eggplant in as little vinegar as needed to blend.
Used for over a month, twice daily (just left it on).
Again, no change.
Also have red areas, like a burn, (not sure what that is), didn't work on that either.
Wondering what would happen if I just used the peel (where the purple color is). May or may not. Also tried "sunspot." The thing that worked on some problems (not all) was carac (FU-5), and it is also easier to apply and less expensive (you get a large tube) if you have insurance. That (carac) did a heck of a job (not as in "heck of a job Brownie." but really, a good job) but it did not take care of some things.
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Allie
USA
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Posted - 07/14/2008 : 08:07:57
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Hi All. Am new here. Thought I'd post my recent experiences with eggplant.
First, thanks so much for everyone's input and for this great forum. It's giving me a lot of hope for an alternative to surgery.
I was told last month that I have two skin cancers (not melanoma), that needed surgery and would leave bad scars. One lesion is on my nose, the other on my chest. In addition, my dermatologist said I had 2 other lesions that were "precancer wanting to be cancer", and I'd better get some health insurance.
I didn't like the idea of surgery, and I didn't know what else to do, so the next day I started a water fast to see if that might help.
About the 5th day of my fast, I found this forum. I looked at all the different suggestions, and I liked the eggplant method the best.
I decided to mix the eggplant with a few different things, being careful to leave out oils because of their possible binding effect as suggested by rustydownunder.
Though I haven't been mixing any oil with the eggplant, I've been applying tea tree oil between applications of the eggplant.
I don't blend the eggplant. I mash it instead in a suribachi. A suribachi is a Japanese mortar and pestle usually available at health food stores. I found that the advantages (for me) of mashing over blending are that mashing doesn't require adding any liquid (my skin is way too sensitive to vinegar), and I can prepare a very small amount of eggplant and make it fresh everyday.
I mash the long eggplants and use only the half attached to the stem end because it has less seeds. The other half is eaten.
To mash the eggplant, I cut it into small pieces, mash it till it's juicy instead of white, and then discard all the peel - keeping as much eggplant as possible. I then mash the eggplant up really well, and add the contents of 3 capsules of ground raspberry seed (for the ellagic acid), a dropper of oregano extract (not oregano oil), and a dropper of noni extract.
I cover my lesions with that mixture, then cover that with whatever bandage I can find that won't stick too hard to my skin.
I usually apply this mixture about 4 times a day, keeping it on for 2 - 4 hours each time. A couple of times during the day, I leave the mixture off, and I apply tea tree oil instead, leaving the bandages off.
I've found that the tea tree oil can become too inflamatory after a few days, so I've had to discontinue it a couple of times and apply aloe vera as an alternative. But I go back to the tea tree oil as soon as possible.
I've been doing this for the nose and chest lesion, plus the two areas that were considered "precancer wanting to be cancer", plus several suspected AKs and a couple of "age spots". It's been 5 weeks and here's what's happened:
The nose and chest lesions at first became very inflamed. The nose lesion soon appeared to cover a much larger area of my nose than originally seemed evident, with several channels spreading out from it. The main area was about 1/4" in diameter.
The chest lesion was already pretty large - about the size of a nickel. When it became inflamed, it seemed to grow to larger than a quarter.
By about the third day, both lesions started to blister. And by the fourth or fifth day, they had developed scabs. All the new little channels on my nose turned into a brown crust. At one point during this stage, the chest lesion seemed to take on the appearance of a flower, with petals about 3/4" long emmanating from the main lesion, and a little brown crust at the end of each petal. I enlarged the application of eggplant to cover the entire thing. Over a period of several days after that, the scabs and crust on my nose and chest started to peel, and a few days later, they were gone.
The scabs are gone now, but the areas are still pink. I'm still applying the eggplant, because even though the lesions seem vastly improved, they are not yet totally healed. Their progress was most dramatic during the first week or so. It's probably worth mentioning that I was still fasting during most of the first week of applications. That could have played an important healing role. I fasted for 9 days. Since then progress has been steady, but slow.
The pink area on the chest seems to be gradually shrinking, and healthy skin appears to be closing in on it. It now seems overall definitely smaller than a dime. It used to be extremely itchy if I touched it, or if my clothing touched it. The itchiness has almost completely disappeared.
The nose lesion has no scabbing or peeling, and the new channels have disappeared, but it still seems to have it's moods. Sometimes it seems more red, other times more faded. It's no longer sensitive to the touch like it was before the treatment. It seems to be slowly fading away, but not with the dramatic progress of the chest lesion.
Of the two lesions that were "precancer wanting to be cancer", the larger one has improved dramatically. It was about 1/2" in diameter, with a watery scab, and extremely itchy. Now the lesion is practically nonexistent, and it's becoming difficult to locate. If I rub the general area with water, I can see a faintly pink area. I'm still applying the eggplant.
The other "precancer wanting to be cancer" seemed to originate from an eyeglasses mark on one side of the bridge of my nose. It was small - about 1/8" diameter, but often with a watery scab and quite nasty looking. I'm still wondering if it's maybe some kind of fungus thing. It had some lines extending from it in different directions. It hasn't improved as much as the other one, but it's definitely smaller, with more of a crust now rather than a watery scab. It looks much less nasty. The extending lines have faded.
The AKs are all better, but none are completely gone - at least not yet. Age spots have faded somewhat.
Conclusion: I'm going to keep doing what I'm doing. I'm really quite amazed and relieved about the progress so far, yet I still feel anxious, and I'd definitely like to be completely rid of these things. I've wanted to stay away from the Curaderm because of the urea in it (I'm a purist and set in my ways). But I've decided to order some Curaderm now so I'll have it in case I need it a month from now. I'll be away from home, and it won't be easy to mash eggplant everyday.
I'd really like do another fast to see if I can speed up the healing process again, but now I'm too busy. Plus, the progress so far has made me feel a little less desperate. But I've still been doing a 36 hour fast about twice a week, and eating vegan. Seems to help. I think it couldn't hurt.
I'll probably check back in later on to update my progress (or lack of).
Sorry this was so long.
Thank you again, forum!
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Allie
USA
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Posted - 07/14/2008 : 14:58:03
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I was about to order some Curaderm to take along with me on my trip next month, but I began to question it and came across some discouraging information when I googled "Curaderm scam". I posted more on that on the thread here called "Curaderm ?".
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Allie
USA
26 Posts |
Posted - 07/20/2008 : 17:15:19
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Progress:
I'm still using the eggplant mix that I described above.
I've been mostly concerned about the lesion on my nose. It was sometimes getting very red and then fading, and then red again. But I've started to notice that after each red time, it's a little better later than it was before. Yesterday morning it was very red after several days of being faded. But when I looked at it closely, it seemed obvious that a layer of diseased skin had come off the top. So that's a GOOD thing. No wonder it was red! There are also 2 new tiny pinpoint scabs, one at each end of the lesion. The lesion has already faded again, and now it's more faded than ever.
The larger skin cancer on my chest continues to fade and shrink. Yesterday a small part of it had reddened, but that is gone now, and this skin cancer is also looking better than ever.
I'm concluding that these occasional reddenings are indications that the cancers are steadily cleaning themselves out, as evidenced by spurts of peeling skin at the surface. The peeling skin is pulled off by the eggplant, making the lesions temporarily appear more red.
Between applications of the eggplant mix, I'm not using the tea tree oil anymore. It just doesn't seem necessary, and it was becoming too irrating. I'm using aloe vera between applications instead of tea tree oil.
I'm still water fasting every fourth day. Also eating exclusively a raw food vegan diet, with B12 supplement. A couple of days ago I got a bottle of acai juice, a bottle of mangostein juice, and a bottle of noni juice. I wanted to try going for a few days just consuming only those juices and also some raw mashed eggplant mixed with powdered raspberry seed. The idea was to absolutely permeate my system with nothing but these heavy-duty cancer fighters. But I got too hungry. Oh well, I'll try it again sometime. Still seems like a good idea if I can do it for a little while.
Fasting on only water often seems much easier than radically limiting the diet to only juice or fruit or whatever. (A raw vegan diet is not radical, and it's very satisfying if it's done right and includes enough of all the necessary nutrients).
I'm scheduling another longer water fast beginning Tuesday. When I break that fast, it might be a really good time to consume only the mashed eggplant and raspberry seeds and the acai/mangostein/noni juices.
That noni juice is some Bad tasting stuff! I only mix a little of it with the acai and mangostein juices. I wonder if noni juice tastes good after several days of fasting? I intend to find out.
About bandages: My biggest challenge during this treatment has been to find a bandage that doesn't rip off my sensitive skin. Every adhesive tape or adhesive bandage leaves open wounds. Even the "ouchless" ones and the ones for sensitive skin.
This solution has worked very well for me: After applying the eggplant mix and blotting it with tissue paper, I apply Califlora Gel all around the circumference of the eggplant application. The gel doesn't touch the cancer lesions. The gel is slightly sticky until it dries, so I place my gauze (or bandage with the adhesive ends cut off) over the eggplant application and stick it onto the Califlora gel. The gauze sticks to the gel sufficiently enough to stay on (unless I'm moving around a lot), but it can be removed without taking off my skin. Califlora gel is made using Calendular flowers, and it's great for burns and itches. Almost every health food store carries it.
But if anyone knows of any particular bandage that comes in all sizes and is EXTREMELY gentle on skin, please let us know!
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anivoc
668 Posts |
Posted - 07/22/2008 : 01:59:21
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The 3M micropore tape comes off pretty easy yet sticks pretty well.
I ordered a box of 24 rolls of the flesh colored ( enough to last me a few years) I use chickweed healing salve http://www.chickweedhealingsalve.com/ and then I use a small patch of gauze tape it down with the micropore tape.
Not to discourage, but after a few months of trying the e/v concoction I'm pretty much convinced you'll get as much progress just using vinegar. The acetic acid in it can knock out ak's and I have knocked one out using just vinegar.
Under the false belief that curaderm and sunspot were getting their active ingredient Solanum sodomaeum from a type of "eggplant" I gave it a serious try..
The devil's apple is not eggplant and that's the plant that curaderm and sunspot get their active ingredient Solanum sodomaeum.
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Allie
USA
26 Posts |
Posted - 07/22/2008 : 17:26:37
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Hi Anivoc,
Thanks for your help!
Is the 3M micropore tape available at drug stores, or does it have to be ordered? I've looked for it at the drug store, but couldn't find it. Maybe I'm just blind when it comes to looking at all those different kinds of bandages!
Can you let us know who makes it and where you ordered it from?
Also, do you apply the chickweed salve underneath where you put the tape?
About the vinegar, I haven't used vinegar at all because it makes my skin itch like crazy. The eggplant/raspberry/noni/oregano extract mix that I'm using seems to be working very well without any vinegar at all.
That's interesting that you've been able to knock out AKs with vinegar.
I've knocked out several AKs with tea tree oil, and that's the reason I'm using it alternately with the eggplant mix. In my last post, I'd decided to stop using it, but changed my mind again now that the irritation from it has gone down. Sometimes (like yesterday), I can't apply the eggplant all day and I begin to get a feeling like there's something squirming around inside the lesion on my nose. I apply the tea tree oil, and the feeling goes away.
I don't think I can get rid of these cancer lesions with just the tea tree oil though, because I have to take so many breaks from it due to the irritation.
I always keep the eggplant/raspberry seed mix on all night, reapplying it in the middle of the night. Usually I can apply it a couple of times during the day too.
This morning, I was very encouraged by how faded the lesion on my nose now is. I imagine myself going back to the dermatologists who said I had cancer and showing off my new healthy skin! :)
Thanks again for the info! I'd love to find a tape that I can use. What I'm doing now works well for when I'm sleeping, but I'm having to restrict my movements during the day just to keep my bandages on. Plus, talking or laughing loosens them. |
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marsha
USA
122 Posts |
Posted - 07/22/2008 : 22:41:19
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| I feel really confused by you guys and what has happened with me and curaderm. First of all, the basil cell is a mole cancer. So if you have it cut out and miss some it grows more rapidlly. When I used it on my face it followed the roots all over the place. It didn't just fade. Whole sections one to two inches of skin peeled of my face leaving flesh and raw looking meat. I had tape all over the place. Then they started healing while I kept putting on the cream. I didn't stop and give the cancer a chance to grow back. I just kept puttin it on. Then my whole face healed and you can't even tell. Except, the squamas cancer looks different. It has not healed yet. Basil is more on the cerface and spread out. Basil cell when the skin comes off you can see the little white cancer spots, then they seem to slowly desolve and then the skin heals. Squamos cancer is deeper and localized. I had a place that allmost went all the way through my nostril. About the size of a pencil eraser. Now it is 3/4 the way filled in. It's been a year, but an herbalist friend of mine said that people always expext fast results when in truth I think the rule of thumb is for every year you've had something it takes a mounth or two to heal. Now I'm using dmso along with the cream. I'm hoping the dmso will act as a little faster conductor for the cream. |
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Barbara
USA
17 Posts |
Posted - 07/23/2008 : 15:29:25
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Today I made the eggppant mixture and bought orange oil. Wow! Is this normal for the orange oil after the eggplant to burn the bbc??
I don't know if that is a good sign or bad... |
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Allie
USA
26 Posts |
Posted - 07/23/2008 : 16:39:24
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anivoc, my understanding is that Sunspot contains extracts from Sand Brier (Solanum carolinense), and Curaderm contains extracts from Devil's Apple (Solanum sodomaeum). Both are members of the nightshade family, as is eggplant.
marsha, your post gives me a lot to think about. Maybe I'm just kidding myself that what I'm doing is really working. The one on my chest is basal. It did peel off with meaty stuff underneath that scabbed over and peeled off again. Since then, it seems it's just been fading and getting smaller. It's very smooth now, but I can still see where it is, or at least what's left of it. I feel pretty good about that one.
The one on my nose is squamous. It's red again today, and a couple of red spots have popped up nearby. I can see little extension lines coming off those spots. I have no idea how deep it goes underneath the surface. It's a little indented into my nose that I can see, but not much. I've been hesitant to get the Curaderm because I don't like some of the ingredients. But I'm keeping an open mind about it, and it may be the next option for me down the road.
I do want to avoid surgery on my nose if possible, but on the other hand, I don't want to allow this thing to grow while I'm thinking that what I'm doing is working, when in fact, maybe it's not. The progress on my basal cell lesion is definite and undeniable, so that's helping me keep my hopes up on treating my nose.
Your experience with squamous and the Curaderm is very encouraging. I hope you will continue to post your progress.
Yesterday I started fasting and intend to keep it up for a week or longer, if possible. According to Dr. Fuhrman (who entered medical school to become a doctor after being inspired by the healing results of his own 46-day fast), "...it is after the first week that the large health benefits begin to reveal themselves."
Fasting is usually more effective on benign tumors than on cancer, but I'm hoping it will have some effect on skin cancer, since most skin cancers aren't as devastating as other cancers. I'm considering taking some herbal supplements (turmeric, ellagic acid, and Green Tea extract) during the fast as kind of a one-two punch.
This is such a challenge, but I do believe in the possibility of a natural cure, and intend to go this route first for sure.
Best wishes to everyone.
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marsha
USA
122 Posts |
Posted - 07/23/2008 : 16:57:32
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When the heals even while putting on the curaderm then it is done. I notice that the percent rate of people that are healed for more than 5 years also includes the people who did not finish the treatment. I can understand not wanting to finish, I've wanted to quit many times
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Allie
USA
26 Posts |
Posted - 07/24/2008 : 18:53:44
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Hi Barbara,
I tried the orange oil ONE time, and it made my forehead turn painfully red and very swollen for 4 or 5 days. I will never use it again. Some people don't seem to have that kind of extreme reaction to it. I'm wondering about the differences in strength in the products. Maybe orange oil from the peel is stronger than orange oil from the seed, or whatever.
Still fasting. I found an easier way to mash the eggplant than using the suribachi. Using my old juicer, if I replace the juicing screen with the juicing shield, the eggplant turns into a perfect pulp. I peel the eggplant first and chop it. Voila! Perfect poultice. I like this better than a blender because adding liquid is unnecessary, and because I can limit what I make to a day's supply.
Here's a great ellagic acid product (I think), called Ellagic Defense, from Natural health Solutions (1-800-860-9583). It's composed of 90% ellagic acid from the Haritaki fruit (Terminalia Chebula). The only other ingredient (besides rice flour for the capsule) is bioperine - an extract from black pepper (piperine). In India, Haritaki fruit has long been considered an Ayurvedic medicinal, having anti-tumor properties.
The piperine is fairly well established as having properties to increase bioavailability. It should not be taken along with chemical drugs or caffeine or any other substance that may have harmful side effects. To me, bioperine from piperine is preferable to DMSO because piperine is a natural product. DMSO is an effective paint stripper. No thanks.
I plan on adding Ellagic Defense to my eggplant mix as soon as it comes in the mail. Plus I'll be taking it orally.
There's also a curcumin product called Curcumin Pro that contains bioperine (1-800-295-8333). I'm going to order this too and take it orally.
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desertgal
USA
1 Posts |
Posted - 07/25/2008 : 02:06:43
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Hi Alli, I just found this forum tonight and was very interested in joining it because I have been fighting skin cancers
for over 30 years. My only treatment for them for many years was the
Freezing method used by my dermatologist. Oh, I did have several surgically removed years ago on my face, leg and neck. About a year ago, I discovered via the Internet Curaderm. I ordered a s container of it and started treatment of a basal cell on my upper chest. Since I lived at the beach growing up, I had many severe sunburns and recently I read that if one has had 5 or more serious sunburns, you can expect to have skin cancers.
The first use of Curaderm or BEC5 was a success. Then I continued to use it on another BS on my chest. I began that treatment 2 timss a day, following the prescribed directions very carefully. I guess because of my constant exposure to the sun when I was young, the cancer cells were camped out under my skin. What BEC5 does is it
seeks out cancer cells around the one on the surface you begin to treat. It takes anywhere from 8 weeks to 16 weeks to finally finish
the treatment where you started. This includes all the ones that were hiding under your skin. The beauty of this product is that actually kills the Cancer cells, but does not do anything to the healthy cells. Your skin regrows where you have been treating and it is just like baby skin. Pink and soft. Since February 2008, I have
treated my arm where I had basal cell that the Dr had frozen off a number of times over the years, but it never went away. That spot
disappeared and was replaced with new skin, but it kept bringing up other areas adjacent which I continued to treat so now I have treated about 6 inches on my right forearm and have this beautiful new skin that is wrinkle free. I have used about 8-10 containers of BEC5,and I bought the book, The Egglplant Cancer Cure by Dr. Bill E. Cham, PhD the man who discovered this fabulous cure. The book was published in 2007 and at that time he had cured over 80,000 people with skin cancer. It works, but you have to patient and use it as directed. Hope this helps you.
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marsha
USA
122 Posts |
Posted - 07/25/2008 : 10:16:04
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Desertgal,I am so happy to here about someone else using curaderm. A real person!! I also am on my 8th bottle. And like you have had great success, except for these squamos cells on my nose. They are taking for ever. So now I am trying other diet things also. I ordered the kal-la-wall-la,or calaguala, that I think dan mentioned, and am now taking that.
Allie, I was just using dmso as a conductor for the curaderm, I didn’t like the idea of it being a solvent. Do you think this other stuff would work as a conductor for curaderm?
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thanks01
USA
170 Posts |
Posted - 07/25/2008 : 21:10:09
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| I added a batch of my pureed eggplant and vinegar to ordinary hand lotion and am applying it to some suspect spots. Someone else mentioned possible "binding" effects when the eggplant alkaloid mixes with oils, so I am not sure of the efficacy of this. But it is pleasant and convenient. Just thought I'd throw in the suggestion for others to try if they if they want to, and give comments. |
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Barbara
USA
17 Posts |
Posted - 07/26/2008 : 06:59:15
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| Will the red clean patch of skin I have now from the orange oil grow my normal skin back?!? I am sticking to the eggplant :) |
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Allie
USA
26 Posts |
Posted - 07/28/2008 : 15:30:54
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Hi desertgal,
Very glad to hear that the Curaderm is working for you!
Right now I'm sticking with the eggplant because it does seem to be working (though slowly, after the first, more dramatic results). I would be using the Curaderm right now, except that I'm such a purist when it comes to ingredients, and I worry over the urea in the Curaderm. But I will DEFINITELY use the Curaderm before I resort to surgery, if my more serious spots take a turn for the worse!
And desertgal, I'm encouraged by your success as well as Marsha's success. My hope is that the BEC5 in the eggplant will ultimately be as effective as the BEC5 in the Curaderm. Since both are BEC5, hearing about successes with the Curaderm helps me to stay hopeful.
Marsha, about the DMSO, of course this is all new to me, but as I understand it, the ability of DMSO to act as a conductor for whatever is applied to the lesion means that the DMSO is enhancing bioavailability. Since the bioperine (the extract from piperine) also enhances bioavailability, I'm assuming it does the same thing as the DMSO. But I haven't seen any information about which substance - bioperine or DMSO - would be more effective. My choice is the bioperine, but that's because I'm so extremely picky about natural products. I have this belief that anything chemical could be food for cancer, so I try to avoid it all. That's probably an extreme view, so I really wouldn't expect others to share it. But I'm just very cautious, so I'm happy to see that there's a natural alternative to the DMSO, which, for me, is preferable.
Barbara, I had the same fear when I tried the orange oil! :) The redness did go away, thank goodness, and maybe yours has gone away by now. I hope so. I had 2 AKs in that area when I applied the orange oil. They disappeared temporarily while my skin was red and swollen, but when the redness and swelling were gone, the AKs were back again. Now I'm treating them with the eggplant and they seem to be slowly getting better. Both are just pink spots now with no scabbing, so that's a big improvement.
My fast only lasted 3 days, but still, it seemed to have a good effect. Decided (again) to leave off the tea tree oil for good, or at least for a while, on my worse spots, since I got a bit of a rash last time I used it.
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Barbara
USA
17 Posts |
Posted - 07/31/2008 : 19:50:20
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| Yes, the red is gone now, that orange oil sure does burn! I am just using the vinegar eggplant now and every couple days putting the orange oil on for an hour or so-the burning is bad. The eggplant does not bother me. |
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Allie
USA
26 Posts |
Posted - 08/01/2008 : 15:45:41
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Barbara,
Good to hear the redness is gone!
An update:
A couple of days ago, the worrisome cancer on my nose suddenly seemed to shrink by about half! There's new skin in much of the previously open area.
I was very happy and excited about this great progress, UNTIL..... a new thing under my eye suddenly flared up and appeared very manacing! For several days, it had been just a small indentation with a slight bump above it. Now, along with the new swelling and reddness, the little bump has opened up. Previously, I thought maybe it was something caused by pulling off the adhesive tapes. But just in case it was something more serious, I'd already started applying the eggplant a couple of days before the flare-up.
I have no idea what this new thing is. A dermatologist has never seen it.
LUCKILY, the same day that it flared up, I read the post by Beloved33 under the thread, "Success...at last!" Beloved33 has been using a mix that - along with other things - included Green Tea. I liked the idea of the Green Tea, so I brewed some up and applied it all over my face.
I found the Green Tea to be very soothing. Within a few hours, it knocked the swelling and inflammation way down on that new spot, and smoothed out the little irritation bumps on my chest from former applications of tea tree oil. From now on, I'll be applying Green Tea instead of tea tree oil whenever I can't apply the eggplant.
I've been reading about the EGCG in Green Tea and how it's been shown to fight cancer by having a measureable effect on the AH receptor molecule.
So now my new regimen is this: Frequent Green Tea applications during the day. Eggplant and raspberry seed poultices (no vinegar) during the night (new poulitice application and bandages changed in the middle of the night). I've dropped the oregano extract and noni from the eggplant mix.
I'm still waiting for my Ellagic Defense which I plan on adding to the eggplant mix, plus taking orally. Also waiting for EGCG (Green Tea extract) to add to the eggplant mix.
I finally took a picture of the thing on my nose. On the day it shrank so much, I figured I better take a picture now, before it's gone forever. The new thing under my eye is also in the picture, in it's most flared-up stage. I'll try to take a picture every week to record the progress. At some point, I'll post the pictures here.
The basal cancer on my chest is very small now. I should probably take a picture of that one too before it goes away. The spot on my chest that my dermagologist called a "precancer wanting to be cancer" is no longer visable at all, but I'm still treating the area with eggplant, and will continue for a while just to make sure it's completely gone.
The "precancer wanting to be cancer" on the side of my nose has gone back to the very small eyeglasses mark it seemed to start out as. It may still peel some more.
Age spots have faded significantly.
All precancers are in total fading mode, no rough or peeling surface except for 2 very tiny areas.
Diet is still raw vegan, including lots of nuts and seeds (especially sunflower seed and unhulled [brown] sesame seed for the calcium), fresh fruits and veggies, some raw wheat germ and flax seed. Frequent fasting.
And a full-brimmed HAT at all times!
My spirits are very high with these results. Very confident that the cancer is in full retreat. Especially happy now about the Green Tea, because it's something I can apply for life with total convenience, as a cancer preventive.
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michael33
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Posted - 08/03/2008 : 22:39:03
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Hi all,
Thanks to everyone for posting about this! I stumbled across this forum last week and thought I'd give the eggplant treatment a try. I have a small basal cell carcinoma growth on my right shoulder blade... Very similar to other ones that I've had removed in the past. Before having this one cut out, I figured I would try mixing up my own batch of eggplant/apple cider vinegar. (Can't hurt, as far as I'm concerned!)
Anyway, the results so far have been encouraging. I blended the raw eggplant (skin, seeds and all) with some apple cider vinegar using my stick blender. Made it pretty chunky in texture, which has helped keep it on the growth area. After leaving it in the refrigerator for a few days, I used it to completely soak a cotton ball. Then applied it, put a large bandage on top and let it do its magic.
The first couple of days it merely irritated the sore areas. The whole BCC turned pretty red (not the pale white to light pink from before). Having the mixture on it all day wasn't too bad. It would burn a bit from time to time, but I can handle that.
Well, this afternoon I took a shower after a quick trip to the gym. I figured I'd take the bandage and cotton ball off (no obvious color change - still very red) and let the water hit it for awhile. I tried massaging the sore area a few times under the water and, to my surprise, skin from the growth started peeling right off! I managed to flake off a good portion from the right half of growth. I would've kept pulling off more skin since it seemed quite loose. However, it started bleeding a bit, so I stopped for now. I'm hoping this is what I read about - where the skin cancer can actually fall off.  I am going to be patient and keep using the stuff. Only day 4 so far.
Sorry if that was a bit long-winded and a little gross, but I do thank everyone for their insight here.  It has been very helpful. |
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Allie
USA
26 Posts |
Posted - 08/04/2008 : 14:13:16
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That does sound encouraging, Michael33!
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Allie
USA
26 Posts |
Posted - 08/15/2008 : 17:50:01
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Well, circumstances have changed drastically for me.
Since my last post on this thread, I experimented with adding green papaya to the eggplant mix. But my skin soon became extremely inflamed. I dropped the papaya, thinking the original eggplant and raspberry seed mix would bring me back on track. I also received caps of Ellagic Defense with piperine extract (bioperine), and caps of Green Tea Extract. I added both - plus Turmeric extract - to the mix, and also started taking them orally.
It soon became apparent though that the inflammation on my nose had become infected! I panicked, and came to the conclusion - right or wrong - that covered applications of anything continuously wet against the open lesion on my nose may have been the cause of the infection, since I live in a tropical climate.
I decided to give it up, see a doctor and arrange for Mohs surgery. Meanwhile, I had about 3 days worth of amoxicillin left over from an infected tooth the year before, so I started taking that. I stopped applying the eggplant, but continued oral doses of Ellagic Defense, Green Tea Extract, and Turmeric extract.
Amazingly, by the time I'd finished taking the amoxicillin, my nose cleared up to the point where it looked like a simple precancer. That's how it had looked shortly before I visited the dermatologist who told me it was cancer. I'd gone to see him originally because of recent inflamation of the spot. I now began to wonder if the spot had just been a precancer all along that had become infected and then MISDIAGNOSED by the dermatologist as cancer. I thought maybe the infection had never quite healed during these last two months, and it was the infection - not skin cancer - that was causing the problem.
The dermatologist had never biopsied the spot. He said it was cancer and it required surgery, and that was that. Same with the larger spot on my chest.
The "cancer" on my chest had been steadily improving for some time. After some research of cancer pictures on the internet, the one that looks most like mine is called a "superficial basal cell carcinoma". According to info on the medical websites, superficial BCCs are sometimes mistaken for "nummular dermatitis", a much less serious condition. I now believe my dermatologist went the other way around and mistook a nummular dermatitis on my chest for a superficial BCC.
I scheduled a biopsy with an oral and facial reconstruction surgeon. After the biopsy, I planned on having Mohs done in another state, since the minimum fee where I live is $3,000, and I'm uninsured. Despite being aware of my dermatologist's cancer diagnosis, the oral surgeon looked at my nose and told me he thought the lesion was only a precancer. He said he'd do a biopsy if that's what I really wanted, but he said he didn't think it was necessary. He offered to take the lesion off with the laser instead. Removing it with a laser rather than freezing it would allow him to see how much needed to be removed. He said that's what he would do if it were him.
So I said OK, and that's what happened (yesterday). The oral surgeon said the precancer did not appear to go very deep.
Well, today I have a rather sizeable opening on my nose that may or may not leave a scar, but for the time being, I'm just extremely relieved that this episode in my life might now be almost over! I'm just praying that the opening heals without another infection.
As for the spot on my chest, I never even bothered to show it to the oral surgeon. It just seems so obvious that the spot has never been cancer. Or, if it was, then the eggplant got it way under control in about a week. I'm treating it as nummular dermatitis. It's right where the scoop necklines of my work Tshirts rub on my skin, and I gave up those shirts a couple of months ago. I'm now putting plenty of Kukui Nut oil and Kamani Nut oil on it and on the other similar spot on my chest that has already disappeared. I plan to have my mercury fillings removed as soon as possible, since mercury fillings have been linked to nummular dermatitis.
Of course it's possible that the eggplant applications reversed a cancer to a precancer; and the addition of papaya brought discarded toxins to the surface that had the appearance of an infection. Or, it's even possible that the oral doses of Ellagic defense, Green Tea, and Turmeric extract killed the cancer in less than a week.
But I feel my best guess is that both spots were misdiagnosed. My dermatologist apparently does not have a great reputation, and I'll never visit him again.
Whatever the case, as a preventive measure, I plan on continuing to apply the Green Tea topically plus taking oral doses of the Ellagic Defense (with bioperine), the Green Tea Extract, and the Turmeric Extract for some time to come - maybe the rest of my life.
The eggplant did help in other ways. Two out of four other precancers appear to be healed, definitely as a result of applying the eggplant. The "precancer wanting to be cancer" on my chest was probably another spot of nummular dermatitis (also right at my Tshirts' scoop neckline). It has now disappeared completely after applying the eggplant. The other "precancer wanting to be cancer" near the bridge of my nose has healed considerably and is no longer open at all.
End of my story (I hope).
Although I may not have ever had skin cancer, I've had a glimpse into the skin cancer experience. My thoughts and prayers are with you all, and I wish everyone a speedy and complete recovery!
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thanks01
USA
170 Posts |
Posted - 08/16/2008 : 09:10:02
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Allie,
My husband gets mad at me for giving medical advice, but your post here invites it.
First of all, I'm glad that you have improvement and reassurance.
Secondly, before you write "case closed," from the description you give of your problems, coming and going, intensifying and retreating, I would suggest that you at least look at your DIET. Read the materials on this website about diet and skin cancer. I suspect that you are SUGAR-SENSITIVE and/or have a Candida yeast problem which, at least for me, seems clearly to account for "spots" coming and going. I did have two biopsied BCC's that have been surgically removed, but I also seem to have some questionable "spots" that need attention for the future. I think I'm doing well with the mixture of pancreatin and eggplant (and hand lotion) that I have mentioned earlier, but to me it's obvious that my underlying diet is also affecting what happens.
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Allie
USA
26 Posts |
Posted - 08/17/2008 : 00:12:07
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To Thanks01,
I don't mind at all receiving your very well-intentioned advice.
Yes, saying "case closed" may not be realistic. I guess I'll have to wait and see.
Anyway, it's a new chapter, and I'm all for that!
As for my diet, I had an undiagnosed ameba for many years, and it left me extremely food sensitive. I think my enzyme supply just ran out from trying to deal with the ameba for so long; and possibly, my immune system was compromised. Basically, all cooked food makes me sick. Partly because of that, and additionally out of personal belief, I've been vegan for over 21 years, nearly 100% raw during all that time.
I do try to eat as great a variety as possible: lots of fresh fruits, vegetables, nuts, and seeds, plus raw wheat germ, flax seed, and a regular B12 supplement.
I truly can't remember the last time I ate anything with processed sugar - or even honey or date sugar, etc. I understand there is some debate over whether fruit is good for people to eat, but I'm definitely in the camp of people who believe fruit is a most excellent and healthful category of food. Whatever the case, I have to eat something, and my diet is limited enough as it is!
My father had many skin precancers and possibly some skin cancers. And he loved working outside. I think he passed both traits on to me. My husband and I have a small fruit and palm farm, and we work outside almost everyday. Only he's part injun, and I'm not! I've always been a believer in Vitamin D from the sun, and I kind of thought my diet would protect me from the bad effects of it. OOPS!
Now I wear a hat all the time, and usually a long sleeve shirt.
Only the spot on my nose has been intensifying and retreating. The other spots have been consistently in retreat since beginning the eggplant treatment, thank goodness! I think the nose spot was responding to either an infection or applications of tea tree oil or both. Maybe I should have been more open to trying a little vinegar just on my nose to stave off infection, instead of relying on the tea tree oil.
I don't know.
I'm glad to hear you're doing well yourself with the eggplant mix. I believe there may be many natural remedies, many answers out there that are unfortunately being overlooked by "modern" medicine. Maybe by communicating together we can find some answers of our own. I hope so.
Onward through the fog. And best in your quest too!
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JimL
USA
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Posted - 09/21/2008 : 16:42:30
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Hi All.. I'm New to the forum but have been reading all that I can absorb on this subject of shin cancer.
My History. I'm 63 and have spent most of my time outdoors. 4 years ago I did a Efudex treatment on my face. Now finding about 1/2 a left over tube I decided to clear up several remaining spots on my face that have been bothering me. I am into that treatment about 11 days and it's going OK.
I found this forum when I was looking for side effects to the Efudex that might effect my kidney. I lost one to tubal cancer a year ago and can't afford to lose the remaining one. I have battled bladder cancer for more than ten years.
I went to Vitamin Cottage and found All I needed for the EV treatment and all except the Retin-A for the "DMSO/Vitamin C/Retin-A" sauce.
4oz. liquid DMSO 99.9% pure $10.15 (locked up in a cabinet and had to ask for that),
pure vitamin C powder (ascorbic acid) $4.50 - 1/2 lb.@ $10lb bulk ,
4 oz. NOW Orange oil $5.39 (pure and cold pressed),
Eggplant,
Raw unprocessed 5% Apple Cider Vinager,
Aloe gell for when I need some relief.
So far $31.72 without the Retin-A
This morning I applied some Orange oil to both of my fore arms and WHOMEVER made the statement about "Lighting Up Like a Christmas tree" is right on!! I have about 50 Bright white spots on my two arms.
My EV sauce is cooking in the refrigerator for another several days and I am anxious to see what that will do for my arms. When I can get some Retin-A I plan to try each treatment on separate arms.
I wonder what adding some Vit. C to the EV sauce would do seeing that it is also water soluble and also an acid? |
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dan
611 Posts |
Posted - 09/23/2008 : 21:59:06
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JimL, welcome to the forum! Orange oil is not subtle as you found out. It is probably best to start with a small area and see what happens. The white spots are a different reaction from any I had, mine turned red. Are they gone yet? In my experience using orange oil is a lot like using Efudex, it can take weeks to work and it has unpleasant side effects. But you know it is busy doing something.
I would not worry too much about the acidity impact of vitamin C on the EV sauce. A recent study on a Curaderm like product Zycure used salicylic acid (aspirin) with good results. http://www.topicalinfo.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=443 |
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AliceCarmel
USA
1 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2008 : 14:27:18
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A question from reading the Eggplant skin cancer cure book which is available used from Amazon---Dr. Bill Cham says that whole eggplant/eating eggplant is not a cancer cure because there are natural substances in the flesh or skin of the eggplant which counteract the anti-cancer glycosides which are in the seeds. There is a clinical trial going on for treatment of internal cancers with internal administration of the BEC5, but he doesn't say where. Also, some Wikipedia articles say that the glycosides in plants from the deadly nightshade family such as eggplant and potatoes are sometimes cardiotoxic and immunosuppressive.
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anivoc
668 Posts |
Posted - 10/13/2008 : 09:49:00
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There is no doubt that curaderm does have an effect of some skin cancers but it is far from what Dr. Cham and his company make claims of and I know this by using the stuff for over 6 months with mediocre success.
He uses very fuzzy and vague proof and his claims about success rate ( based upon myself and other people on the net that had less than stellar results) are not possibly true.
Don't you find it odd that he fails to mention where the "clinical study " is going on at.
Basically at this point I just don't have a lot of trust or faith in this guy or his motives..
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marsha
USA
122 Posts |
Posted - 10/13/2008 : 21:13:59
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| WEll I don't know how you used the cream.I have gotten rid of basil cell all over my face. I have the pictures but I don't know how to put them up here. I have a new spot on the side of my nose right below where I had moes surgery, the skin has peeled off and I can see all the little cancer spots. For curaderm to work you have to at least do it 4 to 7 times a day.The scc on my nostril finally healed. It dose have a scar, but I think I would have lost my whole nostril with moes surgery. I have used dmso with it maybe 6 times. I take a bunch of different vitamins,calaguala,and am trying to keep my ph up. I haven't felt this good in a year. I also walk 2 to 6 miles a day,get up at 4 or 5. I'm broke and my nose is half gone but I feel great. |
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dan
611 Posts |
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anivoc
668 Posts |
Posted - 10/16/2008 : 22:02:01
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Hi Marsha,
I used it as instructed by the company when I bought it (6 bottles) @ 2 years ago. At that time they were saying twice a day. I went to their site after your post and see they are saying at least twice and up to 10 times a day now... Ugh!
Maybe if you apply more often each day it works. I can attest twice a day did not work for me.
Please post the before and after pics...
Thanks
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Mark
36 Posts |
Posted - 10/19/2008 : 03:38:42
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Tom -
Did you ever get my email with the info? I've sent it to 2 different addresses about 3-4 times with no response from you so far. Just in case, here is the web site you were asking for:
www.southbaytotalhealth.com
for others, im not in connection with this company or web site, i just really believe in going to see a natural medicine doctor. This happens to be one example. I got great results.
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chairos
USA
1 Posts |
Posted - 10/26/2008 : 14:19:42
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| I hope i am posting in correct place...i was daiagnosed w bcc a month ago...in Jobs words my fears were realized..for years i worried off and on about a spot between my lip and nose...it would flare up, even bleed at times, and then just sort of settled and was indented..and pink, but under skin...a friend of mine had a much smaller pearly spot which required 14 stitches...no scarring....but i did not have insurance,and just buried the fear..it seems almost symbolic...well after the dr. said he was sure it was bcc. and it required surgery and plastic surgery...it is a bad place to have it...he said my face would never be the same...and when i asked of alternative treatments..he said there were none successful that he knew of. I was aquainted with your web site, as i had been worrying and researching for some time...i went to it immediately.... first i rubbed the area aggressivly with baking soda,and left it on as a paste...then i made the eggplant vinegar mix...i applied the paste,and left it on over night....the area started opening up,and a good amount of blood seemed to pour out.. two weeks later other areas near my lip started opening up.and swelling....then the swelling and opening up moved to the other side of my mouth...i have taken some pictures.. now i have curaderm as well and have used it... presently. there are scabs just above my lips going up towards my nose... i am very grateful for this forum,as it is informative and encouraging...i want to show the dr.the progress with these natural ways.. thank you so much for whoever posted"what to exspect from the healing process" like that person said somehow all is in Gods hands..and he leads us ... i have found kindred souls and much support on this site.... also i would like to mention a herb a friend in Brazil told me that it helped him out greatly w skin cancer..i found it to be very soothing and believe it is helping too..the name for it in Brazil is" assa peixe" you may google it...make a tea..let it steep a few minutes,and apply liquid w cotton and let it soak in.. |
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anivoc
668 Posts |
Posted - 10/26/2008 : 23:39:25
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In regards to the doctors comments "never be the same" I would recommend a second or third opinion from a well respected plastic surgeon. They work miracles.
This is not to say that you can't overcome on your own possibly.. There are many approaches and some discussed here do have a certain amount of success.
Because of the location, I would not recommend bloodroot paste.
I would also recommend speaking to the folks at Thermosurgery.com.. I am very interested in their system and I hope that what the inventor Gene Hedin is saying there is true. |
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anivoc
668 Posts |
Posted - 10/26/2008 : 23:40:35
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Hi Mark,
Yes I did thank you so much..I will be speaking to him soon! |
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oggie
USA
1 Posts |
Posted - 11/14/2008 : 14:00:59
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Hi. Mostly due to this forum, I purchased Curaderm online. Loooong story short, they stole my money.  I have never received the product, I emailed several times, tried to engage their "live chat" (totally dead as far as I can tell), and called the U.S.-based phone number. I received one email reply to all of this saying oops it had never been shipped but it wasn't our fault. Will ship from the London warehouse (??) and send tracking number...
Which, of course they never did. Sorry for the rant, but I want it to be known they are indeed a scam. If you ever received product, good for you, but you aren't likely to again. $100 down the drain. |
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thanks01
USA
170 Posts |
Posted - 11/15/2008 : 21:04:21
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| Someone else can correct me, but I thought there was some change about Curaderm and the FDA - no longer allowed, etc. in the U.S. So this could be part of the problem. And then, ordering overseas may have some problems of its own. If the charge has gone against your Credit Card, I think you can apply to the Credit Card people to get the charge reversed. Again, not sure. Best of luck. |
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Hiersolo
USA
3 Posts |
Posted - 03/08/2009 : 20:21:03
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I refer to your comment that Dr Cham uses very fuzzy and vague proof and his claims about success rates are not possibly true. I suggest you visit the institutional website www.curadermbec5global.com and read the entire contents, including the list of publications. I am certain that you will agree that the three decades of research which have led to Curaderm BEC5 now being available to the public are beyond reproach.
You state that Dr Bill Cham has lost his license to practice medicine in New York in 1995 for sexually harassing two radiation technicians and that this is an indicator of his honesty and virtue. Accordingly you don't have a lot of trust or faith in this guy or his motives..... "IMO he seems to be more of a scam than Cham". For your information Dr Bill Elliot Cham Ph.D. the inventor of Curaderm has never practiced in the USA. You are referring to a completely different person, a Dr William C. Cham MD, who has indeed lost his license to practice medicine in New York in 1995. Dr William C Cham is not related to Dr Bill Elliot Cham.
Your irresponsible action has put yourself in a libellous position .You have misinformed the public and I would suggest you do a complete retraction of your comments and send on an apology to Dr Bill Cham.
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anivoc
668 Posts |
Posted - 03/10/2009 : 01:18:15
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Removed...
I got the information from another site stating the same story. I have removed the statement which was not the basis for why I KNOW Curaderm is not what he claims it is. There was no purposeful intent to slander, and it was not the crux of why I don't have faith in Dr. Cham or Curaderm. I was under the impression it was the same Doc. It appears this is not the case and for that I do apologize.
I stand by everything else I said. If this isn't about money why is it so expensive? It can't cost more than a few dollars a bottle to make. I spent hundreds of dollars on the so called "cure" and yes it did do something, so do a lot of other things mentioned here on this site but it did not eradicate any of my BCC's as is the case with other people on this site. I used it for months with no final success. If you know where the clinical trials were ran lets hear about it and see the results. Anything other than inconclusive I challenge as I am living proof the stuff does not work as claimed. |
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harley
4 Posts |
Posted - 03/12/2009 : 09:47:41
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| I have been treating a few spots of AK with just vinegar and then with a vinegar/eggplant mix along with vinegar internally. I tried this for about 6 weeks and noticed a little improvement. So, I read the post on orange oil and tried some on a spot on my arm and just used the oil there while continuing with the eggplant mix on the other spots as a controlled test. Three days later, I wnet to rub more oil into the spot and the scab came right off. That was about a week ago and now you can not see where it was. I have a more prominent AK on my scalp and have been applyin gfor about a week and starting to see shrinking of scab..will continue for a little longer and go back to eggpplant mix and see how that works. I have been on a very strict diet as well, lots of organics, juicing, etc |
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anivoc
668 Posts |
Posted - 03/12/2009 : 10:38:02
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Harley
Congratulations!
RE: Vinegar and eggplant. After months of trying the EV mix I concluded that the EV mix in itself doesn't work. A lot of people assume that the active ingredient in Sunspot ES and Curaderm is in common eggplant that we can buy at the store. Not the case, a completely different animal though in the eggplant family.
IMO the EV mixture is an exercise in futility.
RE: Vinegar and orange oil
I am sure vinegar is helpful. Though I have many AK's that I have not yet knocked out using just vinegar, I do have one that was on the back of my neck that I did eradicate with just vinegar. Not sure why that one went away and I can't get the others to. I have used orange oil before but not in tandem with the vinegar. I wipe vinegar on my face every day after I shower in the morning. It lites me up like a Christmas tree for about 30 minutes.
I will give your experiment a try and let you know how it did. Who knows maybe you have stumbled on the new protocol for knocking out AK's...
That's what this forum is all about. Just regular people helping people try and find a reasonable and affordable way to help our bodies overcome these various shin lesions we all face here.
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dan
611 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2009 : 01:00:58
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Harley, thanks for the post! What brand/type of orange oil did you use?
Also, it has taken me more than a month to heal some of my lesions with orange oil. I might of given up except I had taken pictures along the way that clearly showed healing progress, something that would not have been obvious without the photos to compare. Over a long term (years), the treated areas have stayed healed for me. Successful long term healing may be the result of many factors such as diet and supplements. It looks like you are on the right track in that regard. I'm glad you found something that worked for you. |
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harley
4 Posts |
Posted - 03/16/2009 : 13:04:47
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| I am using the NOW brand organic orange oil..I believe another member had mentioned it. This morning my fiancee' asked to look at the spot on my scalp and thought she saw something different and got nervous..she did..she said it looks a lot better and smaller. I guess I'll continue with the oil for a another week maybe - going to the dermatoligist this friday for a second opinion and to just monitor. I was applying the oil 3 times a day so I think I will continue and start using it on one other AK. I stopped the EV application for now and maybe go back after another week but as long as the oil is working, I'll continue. |
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mindy
USA
2 Posts |
Posted - 05/19/2009 : 20:03:27
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quote:
Originally posted by fforest
I would like to share my experience with Eggplant as a treatment for skin cancer...This information is very new so I will add more later...This treatment needs more testing before it can say this is a cure or on the A list of treatments...
As people on this forum know I have been raving about sunspot ES cream for a while...While I still like sunspot ES cream I have grown unhappy with its limitations...1 It does not penetrate the skin as good as I would like with out dmso..2 It only works where applied...3 You can only buy it by mail order..4 It crust up on the skin easy...
Doing some research on glycoalkaloids found in sunspot.....I read this here * Eggplant or aubergine (Solanum melongena) has been examined, and has been shown to contain the exact replica of BEC. This means that a fruit, which is eaten as a vegetable throughout the world, contains BEC. Each eggplant contains 7 to 25 mg of BEC per 100 grams of fruit. Eggplant contain more BEC than Curaderm.
http://www.cura-care.com/curaderm-safety.htm
I then read this article here... http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/melanoma.html
Which gave me the idea to make a poultice out of the eggplant and apply it to the skin....I think the vinegar may help release the glycoalkaloids I am not sure really all I know is that it worked for me...
I got a eggplant and cut it up and put it in the blender.I then put in a mostly vinegar and some water and blended..Only add as much liquid as needed because you want the mix thick with some texture...
If you blend it to much it turns into liquid...
I have had some very nasty bloody lesions on my head..Swollen very nasty things..Plus a good bit of skin cancer on my face..
I applied the eggplant to my head and face and let it sit for 2-3 hours and massaged the eggplant into my lesions...The lesions let off a good bit of heat...The swelling went way way down and all the bloody cancer spots looked 100% better within hours..I have been doing this every day for about 5 days.....All my skin conditions are looking so much better that I hope to not be posing here any more....
The glycoalkaloids in the eggplant seem to get into the skin much better than with the sunspot cream even though the eggplant poulitce is not as strong(Note sunpsot cream is great stuff and can be used were needed after you use the eggplant}...This seems to make for a nicer healing and a nice clean crusting of the cancer spots...
I want to say I have been treating my cancer spots with orange oil for a few weeks before this so maybe the orange oil had already done some heavy lifting before I applied the eggplant...
I like the action of the orange oil on my skin cancer,it penetrates the skin wonderfully and seem to do some nice work cleaning up the cancer but I found the orange oil lacking in the ability to finish the job..The orange oil has very poor pulling action on the cancer...It does a good job identifying the cancer patches on the skin and starting to heal them but I really felt the orange oil needs some help and maybe that help will come from eggplant...
The eggplant and the orange oil have the huge advantage over other things is you can apply then every where and let them find the skin cancer...Skin cancer loves to hide and if you have a little skin cancer their is a good chance you have a bit more you do not see...
I would love some feedback on this treatment from other people...One really great thing folks is the eggplant hardly hurts at all its cheap and easy to apply....
See Below for full report....
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mindy
USA
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Posted - 05/19/2009 : 20:21:27
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| i have been treating squamous cell cancers for 6 years with a dr i have had approx.70 cut out i have also treated them myself with c-herb not so pleasant... they just keep coming i still have 60 or so to go. a few of the places have been basal cell .i have tried efudex i wont use that again where do i go from here please help |
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RidgebackDogs
USA
103 Posts |
Posted - 05/19/2009 : 22:09:02
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Hi Mindy,
Check out this thread on petty spurge (the one Dan is talking about that is in clinical trials is Peplin - u can google that)
http://www.topicalinfo.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=278
Hey fforrest what happened w/the eggplant treatments you were doing in this post that Mindy copied?
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Heirsolo
USA
32 Posts |
Posted - 05/29/2009 : 01:34:06
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Originally posted by anivoc
Removed...
I got the information from another site stating the same story. I have removed the statement which was not the basis for why I KNOW Curaderm is not what he claims it is. There was no purposeful intent to slander, and it was not the crux of why I don't have faith in Dr. Cham or Curaderm. I was under the impression it was the same Doc. It appears this is not the case and for that I do apologize.
I stand by everything else I said. If this isn't about money why is it so expensive? It can't cost more than a few dollars a bottle to make. I spent hundreds of dollars on the so called "cure" and yes it did do something, so do a lot of other things mentioned here on this site but it did not eradicate any of my BCC's as is the case with other people on this site. I used it for months with no final success. If you know where the clinical trials were ran lets hear about it and see the results. Anything other than inconclusive I challenge as I am living proof the stuff does not work as claimed.
Here is some information regarding pricing of Curaderm BEC5. It costs over US$200 million to US$1 billion to develop a treatment before it can be commercialized and it can take over 15 years to establish the treatment.
Research with BEC and Curaderm BEC5 have been going on for three decades.
The alternative treatments for skin cancer are much more expensive than Curaderm
I addition, the purified active ingredients in Curaderm are very expensive. I refer to an independent site that sells the active ingredients http://www.glycomix.co.uk/prices_usa.htm You will note that 1mg of solasonine and solamargine cost US$56. One tube of Curaderm BEC5 contains 1mg of these glycoalkaloids (BEC). So the cost of the active ingredient in 1 tube of Curaderm BEC5 alone is in the order of US$56.
Regarding the results of the clinical trial, please visit www.curadermbec5global.com and look at subsection Research Publications ->->-> Publications/Medical Research. The article of Punjabi et al describes the Multicenter Clinical Trial that was conducted at 10 independent hospitals in the United Kingdom. In their study they have named the product Zycure which is actually Curaderm BEC5. Dr Cham did supply the medication cream BEC5 to the hospitals who used this product in their clinical trials. The article of Punjabi et al, published in the International Journal of Dermatology in 2008 states that a follow-up period of treated patients after 1 year, 78% had no recurrence and this was with patients treated for 8 weeks only. Identical data was obtained by Dr Cham in the 1980s. In addition, he showed that if patients were treated for 13 weeks then virtually a 100% success rate was obtained.
Edited for abusive content by Dan
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rdp
USA
7 Posts |
Posted - 08/13/2009 : 18:58:27
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what a great site, just registerd , i have been diagnosed with the
Squamous Cell Carcinoma of the Lip , this is a great site, i would like to know or ask if the egplant ,orange oil treatmant would work on the lip, thank you in advance)seems like it would be difficult , but ill try anything
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dan
611 Posts |
Posted - 08/15/2009 : 01:04:03
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| Welcome rdp! These treatments seem to work well for some and not for others. All you can do is give it a try if you are comfortable taking the risks. Although I'm a big fan of topical orange oil, it seems like treating a lip would be extra painful. Expect 20 minutes of intense pain for each orange oil treatment, after which the pain subsides rather completely. The eggplant vinegar remedy should be easy to try. Topical pancreatin enzymes with aloe vera and baking soda instead of ammonia is something else to consider. |
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rdp
USA
7 Posts |
Posted - 08/15/2009 : 18:42:08
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| i have been using orange oil only with a q tip for 21 day now on my lower lip, its looking great! |
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rdp
USA
7 Posts |
Posted - 08/15/2009 : 18:46:14
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| it does not burn my lip, just a little, when i do the eggplant, do i grind up the skin also, or just the insides? |
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rdp
USA
7 Posts |
Posted - 08/15/2009 : 18:49:45
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| i meant 1 day on my lip,lol, thats it ,one day and its looking great) |
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dan
611 Posts |
Posted - 08/17/2009 : 00:19:35
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| rdp, it sounds like you are off to a terrific start. It is nice to know the pain was minimal with orange oil on a lip with SCC. Please keep us updated. As for the eggplant, when I made some, I used both peel and insides. (But I might have it wrong.) |
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rdp
USA
7 Posts |
Posted - 08/17/2009 : 13:41:54
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| 3RD DAY OF USING JUST ORANGE OIL FROMM THE NUTRITION STORE,, MAN ITS ABOUT CLEARD UP. HAD A LITTLE FLAKE FALL OFF LAST NIGHT, NOT EVEN PUTTING ANYMORE ON, I SWEAR , THAT STUFF DOES WONDERS) |
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dan
611 Posts |
Posted - 08/17/2009 : 21:56:02
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rdp, glad to hear the good news! What brand of orange oil are you using? Also, for my curiosity if you don't mind, what treatment options did your doctor suggest?
I would plan on applying for a few weeks even after it seems healed just to be sure. One good thing about orange oil is that it penetrates deeply and squamous cells are near the surface, so it may be a perfect treatment for you. I hope the progress continues. |
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rdp
USA
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Posted - 08/18/2009 : 05:48:09
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the dr recomendes moes treatment, set for the 27th, 1600 to 2500 dollars, i dont have the money , i hope this works for me, just wondering if it might come back, my lip is so much better)
the brand of orange oil is( now ) |
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dan
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Posted - 08/18/2009 : 22:37:25
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| In my experience topical orange oil has been amazing. It does not seem to lose its effectiveness even on previously treated lesions. I have had some lesions come back after a few months, probably because I did not follow through well, but a second treatment has always worked so far if the first did not complete the job. I would guess the first treatment is 90% effective, a second treatment if needed so far is 100% effective. |
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Shafah
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Posted - 09/10/2009 : 15:33:53
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rdp,
That's great to hear that orange oil worked on your scc on your lip!
A question to everyone in here, would this also work on a bcc on the chest?
I would greatly appreciate any feedback on this. |
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dan
611 Posts |
Posted - 09/12/2009 : 11:26:54
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| I think orange oil would work on a bcc but expect it to take up to about 4 weeks before you see conclusive progress. When starting any topical treatment, take a reference picture so you can compare progress objectively in a few weeks. That made a difference for me as I was ready to give up but the pictures became a big encouragement to keep going. |
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BlondeAmbition3
USA
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Posted - 09/22/2009 : 18:25:04
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quote:
Originally posted by dan
JimL, welcome to the forum! Orange oil is not subtle as you found out. It is probably best to start with a small area and see what happens. The white spots are a different reaction from any I had, mine turned red. Are they gone yet? In my experience using orange oil is a lot like using Efudex, it can take weeks to work and it has unpleasant side effects. But you know it is busy doing something.
I would not worry too much about the acidity impact of vitamin C on the EV sauce. A recent study on a Curaderm like product Zycure used salicylic acid (aspirin) with good results. http://www.topicalinfo.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=443
** the Orange Oil causes 'white spots' to light up on my scalp also! ** |
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rdp
USA
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Posted - 10/11/2009 : 10:31:24
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just to let everyone know, since my last post, i have been putting orange oil on my lip evryday and it is completly gone, it has a little indention on my lip , but its dissapearing slowly))
this site saved me alot of money,lol the moes surgery is what my doc recomended, and said it would take a year to heal my lip, this only took about 1 month))
thanx again |
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