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| Kel |
Posted - 06/16/2010 : 05:39:50
Elsewhere on this forum I stumbled onto a post about treating skin cancer with a magnet - one that referenced Suzy Balliet. It was one of the few references on the internet and I was always fascinated by it. And have been meaning to post here for awhile.
I have a basal cell growth on my back near my neck - it's about 15 mm by 20 mm half moon shape. It has been there about 8-9 years growing slowly to that size. I also have keratosis in a number of areas on my scalp probably due to being a life guard years ago.
In treating the basal cell growth, I didn't know what it was for a long time and did not check it out with my doctor - eventually I had it biopsied. Before the biopsy, several years ago I tried can-x which kind of ate into the majority of the growth but I didn't apply it correctly so the center was "eaten" out but edges remained. In my mind it confirmed what I suspected - basal cell - Anyway one day after it healed I sunburned it, it blistered and became an open lesion that did not seem to want to heal. For a long time I applied curaderm and sunspot es and these certainly seemed to help - especially with Keratosis I have. I applied the cream and covered basal cell area with paper tape. For Keratosis I just put the cream on.
I did not want to operate on the area and wanted to treat it in a wholistic manor which is how I found this site.
Anyway I decided because it was not very intrusive to contact Suzy Balliet of http://www.biomagnetic.org/suzy.html and I had an over the phone consultation with her. She seemed very knowledgable and said she had some success treating basal cell with magnets. Also very kind person.
We decided on a 12,000 gauss neodynium gold plated magnet that would cover the growth. Gold to prevent infection etc... I put the magnet on paper tape - negative side toward lesion -with gauze on it - to prevent sweating and allow area to breathe.
Once received I wore the magnet pretty much 24/7 - initial effects I noticed it was very soothing to area. Over the first month of wearing the magnet the open lesion started to heal and in about 2 months there was no longer an open sore. I periodically measured the area but people who I got to measure were not consistant - as best I can tell it is getting smaller but very slowly. I have been taking pictures of the area periodically - monthly ideally but not always and also have asked my family doctor to measure the area when I go in for any reason. The angry burning I always felt has gone away too.
Suzy said that it will heal but to expect that it will take as long as it took to grow to heal. I do not put anything else on the area and that is what Suzy advised as well. Further, it is a painless simple treatment that seems to work although slowly especially for the area it is on my body.
I have been doing this for about 9 months.
p.s. btw this is my first post and I appreciate all the great information on this forum and Topicalinfo site! Thank you!
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| Kel |
Posted - 09/27/2011 : 15:06:20
Hi Dan and Paul,
My apologies for not responding sooner - I haven't checked out the forum in a while. I originally got the first magnet from Suzy Balliet as part of her $45 consutlting fee. Since the 1 inch diameter x 1/8" thick magnet did not completely cover the horseshoe like shape of the nodular bbc - I ordered a larger one from magnet4us.com - their magnet prices are good but shipping and handling is too expense(currently $19). K&J magnets is another vendor whose magnets are a little more expensive but shipping is much cheaper.
Also very little problems wearing the magnet - I have to warn the stylist when I get a haircut and their clippers get near the magnet. though other than that - it is very comfortable to wear but it's important to put gauze between magnet and skin otherwise skin sweats and you can get a rash. In my case the bbc is located in a less obvious area so it is easy to attach the magnet with tape and leave in place.
While I got a 12K gauss (residual flux) magnet that can be a little misleading - here is what the K&J website says:
Most magnetic therapy people like to present the largest number possible, so they often use the Residual Flux Density (Brmax) of the material, which really doesn't specify much about the actual magnet. This value is essentially the magnetic field density inside the magnet material. Since you will never be inside the magnet, or using the field inside the magnet, this value doesn't really have any practical value. The surface field of a magnet is a much more accurate specification for a magnet. The surface field is exactly what it sounds like. It is the magnetic field density at the surface of the magnet as measured by a Gaussmeter. This value is tested and specified for each of our stock magnet
I purchased a 1.5" diameter by 1/8" thick disc magnet. That covers the area nicely. Per K&J this results in just over 1000 gauss surface field. (magnets4us rates their surface gauss field at over 2000 for the same size magnet - I am not sure what to believe and have emailed K&J this observation to see what they have to say). As of this writing Price wise the above magnet is $8 plus shipping of about $5 at K&J.
Surface gauss field increases by quality of magnet and thickness for discs magnets.
I am about to order new magnets as I leave mine on for periods of time and sometimes while swimming and they can rust after awhile
I am thinking of getting a N52 1.5 x 1/4 inch disc to try a higher gauss surface field.
Paul I disagree with you on value of magnets - for me it has stopped it's growth or slowed it down alot and burning and open lesion has gone away. That is real value. It remains to be seen if it resolves over time. Frankly it is the most benign solution i have at the moment.
I do however appreciate the topical c suggestion. That said one of my best friends from college is an medical doctor and he has worked with magnets in the past (but not treating a bbc) and his experience is that they work for a while and diminish in effectiveness over time - so far I have not noticed this.
I also have started talking immunocal which is a powder mixed in water that helps the body produce GLUTATHIONE. Here is what wiki says about glutathione:
It is the major endogenous antioxidant produced by the cells, participating directly in the neutralization of free radicals and reactive oxygen compounds, as well as maintaining exogenous antioxidants such as vitamins C and E in their reduced (active) forms.[17]
Regulation of the nitric oxide cycle, which is critical for life but can be problematic if unregulated[18]
It is used in metabolic and biochemical reactions such as DNA synthesis and repair, protein synthesis, prostaglandin synthesis, amino acid transport, and enzyme activation. Thus, every system in the body can be affected by the state of the glutathione system, especially the immune system, the nervous system, the gastrointestinal system and the lungs
- there is some good research on this product and it has some great testimonials regarding people who have cancer (not skin cancer) as far as reducing the size of tumors etc...but you have to take 4-6 packets a day under those more extreme circumstances.
One avenue that at times I have done is going completely raw vegan diet wise. Once before I started the magnet use - the open lesion healed while on that diet (was on it for 6 months) and applied wheat grass poultice often but not every day (kind of messy).
I think long term that diet would make a big difference but at the moment I not there.
My significant other and I have gone to optimal health institute in austin and san diego areas on several occasions - they have week and longer raw vegan food and educational retreats. Total fun and educational and you feel amazingly clean and light and bright on these programs...
Another thing I am researching is neem oil - I did a search and did not get any hits on this forum. Neem is used in India to treat various skin conditions among other things. For months I have been thinking - wish there was a curaderm based shampoo so I can easily apply each day as part of shampooing my hair (keratosis is on various parts of scalp. Since there is no Curaderm type shampoo that i know of, I did read about neem oil in shampoo - I thought for the keratosis that would be a good option and I don't think it will hurt.
I stumbleded onto neem oil when researching natural flee and mite treatment - we added neem oil to pet shampoo and used this to treat flees and mites in our papillon dogs naturally and quite successfully (along with cedar oil). I later found there were more uses to this oil.
Here is excerpt from www.neemwell.com
Cancer and Neem
The neem tree has been used successfully for centuries to reduce tumors by herbalists throughout Southeast Asia. Researchers in India, Europe and Japanhave now found that polysaccharides and limonoids found in neem bark, leaves and seed oil reduced tumors and cancers (Fujiwara, 1982); (Chatterjee,
1961); (Hartwell, 1983) and showed effectiveness against lymphocytic leukemia (Pettit, 1983).
Last words: Funny I live in Fairfield Iowa which is home of Maharishi University of Management and many people practice TM meditation here. We even have a ayurvedic clinic but I have never approached this their clinic for how they would approach treating bbcs.
Kind regards,
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| paul |
Posted - 09/02/2010 : 19:21:09
Stop wasting your time, magnetic field does nothing to cancers. When people undergo NMR, they are exposed to extremely high magnetic fields. No cancer remission was ever observed. Try topical application of C-vitamin instead. That seems to produce good results.
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| paul |
Posted - 09/02/2010 : 19:14:04
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Originally posted by dan
Hi Kel, thanks for the super interesting post! Where did you buy the magnet and how much did it cost? How big physically was the magnet? Is yours a disc? In browsing the internet, it looks like the pull force of a magnet depends on its field (gauss number) and its size. Was that a ever a problem, such as leaning against metal?
My first guess as to why a magnet would work as a skin cancer treatment is that it could disrupt a cancer cell's iron transport thus affecting the ability of the cells to replicate. Also, maybe a magnet increases blood circulation to the area under the influence of the field. So one would not expect a quick result, but fairly quick pain relief as the acid wastes of the tumor are swept away and growth is essentially stopped. What do you think?
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| dan |
Posted - 06/22/2010 : 22:51:17
Hi Kel, thanks for the super interesting post! Where did you buy the magnet and how much did it cost? How big physically was the magnet? Is yours a disc? In browsing the internet, it looks like the pull force of a magnet depends on its field (gauss number) and its size. Was that a ever a problem, such as leaning against metal?
My first guess as to why a magnet would work as a skin cancer treatment is that it could disrupt a cancer cell's iron transport thus affecting the ability of the cells to replicate. Also, maybe a magnet increases blood circulation to the area under the influence of the field. So one would not expect a quick result, but fairly quick pain relief as the acid wastes of the tumor are swept away and growth is essentially stopped. What do you think? |
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