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| trudie |
Posted - 10/13/2009 : 15:21:22
I have just come across this item made in the Phillipines. The website which is called RCC Amazing Touch says it is available only to medics. Has anyone else come across this? Has anyone's doctor mentioned it? I have a diagnosed bcc on my upper lip; it was diagnosed in Jan 2009, and I have been trying cymilium with no luck. Yesterday it started to bleed and I freaked out and scheduled the Moh's for December 2, 2009. It just seems like it will be a relief to be rid of it. Support, anyone? |
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| thanks01 |
Posted - 01/19/2010 : 13:27:40
It was DrBeck on the other DeBCC thread who corrected me about the part of the nut used being the PERICARP, for which I thank him. Here is my post on that other thread, http://www.topicalinfo.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=624:
Thank you DrBeck12 for maintaining interest in what I hope will be a fruitful thread in this forum.
I did add a post saying that I agree with you about the Philippine doctor using the PERICARP. I went back and read the info again, and you are right. Where they get down to details about the ingredients it is the pericarp. In other more casual places they refer to the raw nut. I'm not sure where this one of my posts ended up. Anyway.
I made a paste of the supposedly completely raw cashew nuts. I have been applying this to an area on my face and a few other "trouble spots" of various sorts, on which I plan to give more detail later.
I have two comments. One is that this treatment is very MILD. It does not cause pain. It can be used on the face. The second is that I do think I see progress. However, I would love to get some pericarp oil to try as THE REAL THING. (Of course I would be careful.)
I have researched the availability of pericarp oil and will go back to doing so. Up till now I am finding that this is only sold as 100 gallon barrels for industrial use. I have emailed one source asking for just a small bottle (paid for) and got no response. The irony is that there seems to be plenty of this stuff in the world, but you can't obtain just a small amount.
If anyone on this board can see how to get around the supply problem, to obtain some CNSL (Cashew Nut Shell Liquid) in small quantity, or how to make the voice of us amateurs heard in that industry, I would be grateful.
Although I remain a Petty Spurge fan, and plan to try that, I am EXTREMELY interested in the mildness and effectiveness of the Cashew Nut Oil, and I plan to keep on taking action in this direction, over time, even if I have to do this alone.
But, as I say, if any others on this board can help in this area, please keep posting. Thank you. |
| thanks01 |
Posted - 01/09/2010 : 18:50:42
I went back and read a lot of websites regarding the cashew nut and the CNSL - cashew nut shell oil (which is expressed from the PERICARP , or outer SHELL, of the nut), in particular the website at the start of this thread and the related Amazing Touch websites of DeWart and DeMole, http://www.rccamazingtouch.com/. I think I made a mistake in saying that their products derive from the raw NUT itself. Upon re-reading I do find that they are using CNSL. I have also looked this up and it is sold from all the countries that produce cashews, but in BARRELS, for industrial use, not BOTTLEs. It seems almost impossible to order just a small amount.
Meanwhile I am pleased with the "cream" made from my homemade cashew butter (from pulverized raw cashews). It seems to make my skin and face "feel" a lot better and smoother and be getting rid of some spots - BUT - it is very weak. My thoughts are that the NUTS contain a LITTLE BIT of the anacardium that is in the CNSL. I would like to obtain some CNSL and try that for my real trouble spots. However, it seems almost impossible to obtain. To get a very small portion (maybe a gram) from Amazing Touch is about $100, and they don't sell over the Internet. What I'm looking for is someone who would sell me a bottle of the industrial CNSL.
Meanwhile, I continue to apply my RAW CASHEW NUT paste and I do like it.
Any help here welcome. Whoever wrote that the ingredient came from the CNSL and not the nut is CORRECT. That is why I'm writing the current post. |
| Shafah |
Posted - 12/07/2009 : 22:02:53
Thanks01,
Thanks for sharing your experience in here with the rest of the board. I'm sure a lot of people would find your reports extremely valuable. Do keep us posted and all the best to you!
Cheers. |
| thanks01 |
Posted - 12/05/2009 : 08:23:46
Again, thanks Dan, for the link for DeBCC.
I went and read most of the web pages. What it seems to boil down to is that they are using the oil from RAW cashew NUTS (not the oil from the surrounding shell).
After learning that they charge $145 for several bottles of cleansing "distilled water," etc. and then only give you a tiny patch of the precious oil - namely, a one-time use - I did an internet search for cashew nuts, which I already buy in the roasted, salted form for cooking and eating. I discovered that if you want to buy RAW cashew nuts you have to be careful about how they were peeled - either by hand or a light "toasting."
I went so far as to buy a (very expensive) single pound of GUARANTEED RAW cashews and am now awaiting their arrival. Right now I don't have big troubles but there are still a few spots on the skin to "experiment" on. I figure two weeks for arrival of seeds, then to make my own "blender" paste of raw cashew oil, then perhaps five weeks to see how it all works. I intend to keep every one posted. I am writing this now in case anyone else is interested.
I think what got me interested in this is two things: 1) the pictures on the website indicate that this treatment works, and 2) of all the topicals recently discussed (including Petty Spurge, which has been my big interest until now) the "cashew" treatment seems the "gentlest," both during treatment and for the resulting skin after the treatment.
Anyone else interested in "cashew" treatment, please report in. I think I'll copy this post and start a new, more clearly named discussion thread.
Regards to all. Thx |
| Shafah |
Posted - 12/02/2009 : 23:09:08
Dan, thanks for posting that link about this new product from the Philippines. Sounds interesting.
Dan, when you mention that it worked very well for you (which I am very happy to read!), what method did you use to cure yourself?
These forums have been a true wealth of information for me to not only educate myself about BCC's but also about other real alternatives to the the surgery. I have a BCC on my chest, which has doubled in size after the dermatologue did a bioposy on it, now it has been in stable size for the past few months. I also have noticed a bunch of other similar spots appearing on my chest as well as 4 bigger spots on my back. I'm getting worried and anxious to start something. I'm hesitating between the Vitamin C and the Baking Soda method.
One question I have is it safe and advisable to treat 2 or more spots at the same time? As I said, I have one bigger spot on my chest, then a bunch of smaller ones spread over my chest and 4 bigger spots on my bag which are more problematic as I can't easily reach these points. I also have noticed that the spots on the back are stinging from time to time.
I would suggest any feedback, tips, suggestion or encouragment from others who have won their battle.
Thanks a bunch. |
| dan |
Posted - 11/06/2009 : 23:23:00
Maya, you are on your way! Best of luck and let us know how it's going if you can. The more we hear from you the better. I admire your courage to give this a try. I know I was scared to death to battle a skin cancer without surgery but it has worked out very well for me. What scared me worse was the prospect of continual surgeries to manage my skin cancers.
I had one Mohs on a BCC on the side of my forehead in 1996. One thing I've observed is that skin cancer seems worse the closer it is to the center of one's face, so in my case there was probably less anxiety involved for that reason. I think Mohs would work out fine for you if Perrin's Blend doesn't do the trick, but let's hope it does. |
| maya |
Posted - 11/06/2009 : 16:18:45
Thanks Dan ! I ordered the Perrin's blend and in the meantime am mixing up a bit of grapeseed extract and honey to put on. Messy and sticky, but good practice for using the Perrin's Blend.
Wish me luck !
Maya
P.S. - Have you had Mohs surgery ? |
| dan |
Posted - 11/05/2009 : 00:04:18
Hi Maya, this skin cancer stuff is no fun, but you are very welcome here. There have been some good experiences here so far with Perrin's Blend. Here is the ingredient list, not much to worry about it doing any harm anyway. It makes me feel a little better applying something topically that I would not have hesitation taking orally.
Perrin’s Blend is a 100% natural blend of powerful antioxidants. Made with Raw Honey purchased directly from a honey farm, Grapeseed Extract, Ascorbic Acid (vitamin C), Natural Vitamin E, Grapeseed oil, Alpha Lipoic Acid and NAC (N-Acetyl-Cystein).
It would be wonderful if something this natural worked on both BCC and SCC, but it is too early to tell. Other topicals that have worked include petty spurge sap (in the milkweed class), orange oil, pancreatin enzymes and aloe vera gel (Cymilium), bloodroot, eggplant and vinegar, vitamin C paste, black walnut hull extract, and Carac and Efudex (prescription).
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| maya |
Posted - 11/04/2009 : 19:20:45
Dear Dan and Trudie,
I was scheduled for Mohs in August and again this week, and cancelled because I have so much anxiety about it. I have BCC on the side of my nose , about one third of an inch in diameter. I am wondering what your opinion of Perrin's blend is ?
Thank you,
Maya |
| dan |
Posted - 10/14/2009 : 00:54:43
Good find trudie! An abstract of a Phillipine study "A Combination of Gliricdia Sepium and Anacardium Occidentale (Linn.) (DeBCC) for the Treatment of Basal Cell Carcinoma (BCC) or Skin Cancer" is at http://www.debcc.com/clinicalstudies.html#clinicalstudies There are some pretty severe skin cancer before and after pictures at http://www.debcc.com/clinicalphotographs.html Those are huge lesions to try to treat topically.
Anacardium Occidentale is cashew. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cashew
Gliricdia Sepium is a multi-purpose legume tree http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gliricidia_sepium
I imagine DeBCC is a combination of oils from the fruits of these trees.
Regarding BCC and Cymilium, by now we know Cymilium doesn't always work. It sounds like you gave it a good try. There is nothing wrong with going with the surgery. On the other hand, there are still 6 weeks left if you are interested in trying something else that is easy to find such as orange oil or Vitamin C. Sometimes switching tactics works dramatically better than staying with the same protocol (the combo effect). Anyway, let us know how it goes if you can. |
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