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DCfemme Posted - 06/24/2009 : 10:34:23
Hello all,
I was diagnosed in March with nodular basal cell carcinoma on my upper back. I've had a few other experiences with skin cancer, including one basal cell that I had surgically removed and one squamous cell. It was with the squamous cell (which was on my face) that I was first informed about alternative treatments, and I used Aldara on it. Nonetheless, I never experienced any scabbing, so I'm not sure if it had any impact. The doctor thinks it may have been fully removed with the biopsy, and it has not reappeared.

With the recent basal cell, I again declined surgery, at least initially, in favor of alternative treatments. I have tried all kinds of things, including Aldara, orange oil, Cymilium, coconut oil mixed with melatonin and vitamin D, and most recently, C+E+Ferulic acid.

It's hard to tell if any of it has worked. The spot is totally smooth but still red. Nonetheless, the redness may be left over from the biopsy, or it could be skin irritation from all the stuff I have applied. I read somewhere that if you still have cancer, orange oil really stings; however, it doesn't hurt at all when I apply it.

I went to a new doctor yesterday, explaining to her that I'd like to avoid further surgeries if at all possible (I already have lots of scars on my body from having moles removed); however, she was unsympathetic and insisted that I need a new biopsy.

Does anyone have experience with alternative treatments? How can you tell whether the cancer is gone or not? Thanks, I would appreciate any and all responses.
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dan Posted - 06/27/2009 : 13:53:32
I think the cleaning products have a higher concentration of d-limonene than essential orange oil. Developing an orange oil allergy is one worry that may be stronger with essential oils than with concentrated d-limonene because there are a greater variety of substances in the essential oil capable of reacting with exposure. But I have not had any problems with allergies over several years.

It seems to me that if you are encountering the "orange oil sting" then what you have should be good enough. So my bet is the spot on the back is OK and the one on the face is not, but of course the only way to really find out is to do a biopsy.
DCfemme Posted - 06/26/2009 : 19:46:04
Thanks for your reply and for the tip on the orange oil. I'm glad to hear that it has worked so well for you. Is the composition of the home cleaning products much different from essential oils? I have been using Sweet Orange essential oil from Aura Cacia Organics:
http://www.auracacia.com/dspCmnPrd.php?p=t&cn=Orange,%20Sweet&o=y&ct=anpceoeo&i=p&br=Aura%20Cacia
When I put it on my back, I feel nothing. However, when I put it on a suspicious spot on my face that has never been screened (a small, slightly raised surface that is flat and skin-colored) I feel the sensation you describe.
dan Posted - 06/25/2009 : 01:23:43
Hi DCfemme, I have used concentrated orange oil and pancreatin enzymes topically on skin cancers. They both worked for me. I have favored the orange oil over the past few years because it penetrates so well, it can treat huge skin areas, it is inexpensive, and because of the stinging feedback it gives. The stinging can be quite intense but lasts for only about 25 minutes. I find the degree of stinging gives a good indication the progress of treatment. When I thought the skin cancer is gone based on the lack of stinging, I kept applying for a week or two. Then I checked back in a month or so. I have had some come back months later but they were very easily wiped out with another round of topical treatments.

With other treatments it is difficult to tell when to stop and often it is difficult to tell if they are working as you noted.

I prefer to apply a very concentrated orange oil version directly to skin such as http://thatorangestuff.com/index.shtml or http://www.tkoorange.com/ I have tried the NOW brand orange oil but felt it was too weak.

I could be wrong, but I feel my skin cancer was candida (fungus) based. The orange oil and diet changes (lower sugar, lower polyunsaturated fat) have really helped. I also had extremely itchy ears (due to a fungus infection?) that the orange oil completely cleared up.

Anyway, it has been 8 years since my dermatologist said the spot on my forehead was squamous cell and to expect a lot of skin cancer trouble in the future based on what he observed in my skin at the time. Now I get unsolicited compliments for having "young" skin. Hopefully you will also have good fortune with your alternative treatments.

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