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| Steven |
Posted - 07/18/2008 : 14:35:24
Hello,
Has anyone tried the treatment protocol found here:
http://www.qcancercure.com/
If so then what are the results?
Thanks!
Steven Chang |
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| Steven |
Posted - 07/01/2016 : 09:10:02
Have you tried to combine Quercetin + Vitamin C + Vitamin E with H2O2 or toothpaste (source of free radicals)? |
| anivoc |
Posted - 06/22/2016 : 10:16:35
Steven
Undocumented "testimonies" carry no value. They are deceptive and give false hope to the people who take them as something more than what they really are (hearsay / gossip).
"POIDH" (Pictures or it didn't happen) At the minimum pictures that document the before and after results are required...to add credibility to the pictures, a biopsy prior to treatment is really necessary ( though sometimes the pictures are pretty clear it was a real skin cancer) as without a biopsy prior to the treatment protocol there is no scientifically / medical documented proof what type of skin cancer or lesion it was.
This forum is for non melanoma skin cancers...not internal cancers..
Jim B posted in this thread for about 2 months in 2013 and has not posted again in this thread in 3 years...his last two post indicated what he thought was progress had come to a stand still and that he still had the tumors..based upon your enthusiasm I tried both internally and externally and IMO wasted time and money on something that in no way shape or form helped me with eradicating my skin cancers.
A lot of people come here seeking help .based upon JimB and my personal experience in trying your protocol, I strongly discourage anyone else from putting any time, energy and money into it as it appears to not have any long term effect and you have provided zero documented proof otherwise. |
| Steven |
Posted - 06/14/2016 : 02:14:37
I have a testimonial of a person saying that after taking vitamin e + quercetin + vitamin c tumors were falling off and this was accompanied by bleeding.
This person saw pieces of dead tumor (his mother has cancer) in the toilet bowl.
This is exactly what would be expected, according to my theory. It should kill all cancer cells and wipe out all tumors.
And I am using this myself to kill bacteria in my mouth. With success, because I have 2 teeth that should be pulled out by the dentist, but due to the bacteria killing effects of quercetin + vitamin c + vitamin e + fluoride (free radicals), my teeth are still there and they don't hurt anymore even though one tooth has a major hole in it and the other one is loose due to severe gingivitis. The mix completely kills all bacteria, preventing inflammation of the teeth. Bacteria are like cancer cells. The mix also has the ability to penetrate skin like DMSO and it should also penetrate tumors with ease.
By the way, where is JimB and what does he say about the treatment protocol? I didn't see him write anything about the treatment protocol, after initially he had good results.
I am still looking for more testimonials (good or bad)! |
| anivoc |
Posted - 06/12/2016 : 05:17:52
Steven
You mention "all the people" who tried it with vitamin E had good results..
Who are "all these people" and do you have a single set of before and after pictures of visual proof? Do you have medical documentation from any of these people that they really had cancer?
If you do please post..
I believe your heart is in the right place but cancer can a deadly thing and saying you have a "Cure" when you have a theory is irresponsible. I'm all for giving people hope and trying new approaches but they need to be presented as an experiment not like it is tried and proven system or method that is a 100% "CURE"
I would love it if your theory turns out to be accurate but here on the board those of us that have tried it, in the end failed. JimB who was the most enthusiastic, in the end gave up as it was not knocking out his tumors |
| Steven |
Posted - 09/21/2015 : 15:56:25
I think that vitamin E is the "magic bullet".
Add vitamin E to the mix and it will work. All the people who had vitamin E added to the mix had good results!
Why isn't anybody responding? |
| Steven |
Posted - 08/30/2015 : 15:18:07
Anivoc,
If the Quercetin + Vitamin C doesn't work then try to dissolve it in 0.5 Liter of water. Shake several times and then take it gradually. This should be much more bioavailable and this kills cancer cells much better. Optionally add green tea extract to the mix (the 0.5 L bottle).
You should also add 400+ IU Vitamin E, as that works synergistically with Quercetin + Vitamin C.
Good luck! |
| Steven |
Posted - 06/09/2015 : 04:37:42
Have you tried Quercetin + Vitamin C (+ green tea extract)? |
| tom1231 |
Posted - 05/31/2015 : 15:37:24
quote:
Originally posted by Steven
This is my theory about Quercetin and how it kills cancer cells:
Quercetin is an antioxidant. It neutralizes free radicals. While doing so this quercetin changes to a radical molecule. For example it neutralizes 4 radical molecules and becomes a radical molecule with 4 radicals.
Then it sticks to DNA (covalent binding). Because there is no water present there, it stays a radical molecule.
When a cell divides, water nears this molecule so it reacts with water causing OH radicals killing the cell.
Normal cells always repair their entire DNA before cell division, so the radical flavonoid molecule is removed. So normal cells stay unharmed.
Cancer cells divide before they have repaired their entire DNA, so they die.
So it's actually a bomb.
A flavonoid molecule is like a bomb that explodes if it's not removed before a cell tries to divide. Cancer cells that divide before reperation die, because the bomb isn't removed, so it explodes when the cell tries to divide. Normal cells that divide after reperation remove the bomb so they live.
Cancer cells that do completely repair their DNA before cell division aren't cancer cells anymore (they are normal cells) because they have to wait a long time before cell division.
So flavonoids kill only cancer cells but no normal cells.
It's like this:
Normal cell -> completely repaired -> flavonoid bomb removed -> cell divides normal
Cancer cell -> not completely repaired -> flavonoid bomb detonates -> cell killed while it was dividing.
Cancer cell that completely repairs = normal cell.
Steven Chang
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| Steven |
Posted - 07/20/2014 : 03:20:22
Hey Jim,
How are you now? |
| Steven |
Posted - 07/05/2014 : 04:46:14
quote:
Originally posted by JimB
I thought I read it at his website, but I can not find the reference quickly. I thought he mentioned that the Q&C will work better with EGCG which is found in Green Tea Extract and other natural sources.
I had them around because of using them externally with viagra and they work externally but slower than the above method. I did not take the green tea extract internally before by itself so I do not know.
Maybe future posters can try it by itself. I have a couple of hundred around its easy to take them.
Here is Steven's website
http://www.qcancercure.com/
Here is another link discussing the 2 supplements together
http://www.naturalnews.com/035651_green_tea_quercetin_cancer_tumors.html
quote:
Originally posted by anivoc
Hi Jim,
The green tea extract? In a quick review I didn't see Steven suggest that. Is this something you decided to add to the regime or something Steven suggested?
I have ordered the quercitin / Vit C and will jump on the guinea pig team as soon as it arrives.
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| Steven |
Posted - 06/28/2013 : 01:43:09
Maybe you need to add Vitamin E (another antioxidant) to this mix. JimB used vitamin e along with this mix, maybe this is why it worked so well.
I now advise to dissolve the quercetin + vitamin c in 100% pure orange juice, which can make the quercetin + vitamin c work much better. You can check all the information on my website.
I just got another person who responded well to this therapy. This person added Vitamin E to the mix. |
| Steven |
Posted - 06/17/2013 : 12:56:44
Sick of BCC (he/she posted here several times), what happened, why did your posts disappear? |
| Steven |
Posted - 06/05/2013 : 04:04:13
In my opinion it's better to use exactly the same brand/ product and dosage as Jim used. But if you can't, then the other brands/ products can be good as well. After all it's (almost) the same ingredients. The bromelain added should not be a problem. But there are small differences between brands, I have noticed for example that twinlab quercetin + vitamin c is less yellow then vitacost quercetin + vitamin c.
Please keep me informed about the results.
The other poster, sick of BCC disappeared strangely. Sick of BCC are you seeing any good results from the quercetin + vitamin c + green tea extract usage? You can also message me privately on my website: http://treatcancerinfo.wix.com/cure if you don't want to put it here. |
| JimB |
Posted - 06/04/2013 : 11:25:45
When I started using the mixture I also had stomach issues. And developed a cold sore on my lip. I wrote that off to the combo working. Sort of like when you get sick if you workout too hard and the muscle cell wastes are floating around in your system and you get sick.
I started with one set of pills per day and then graduated to 2 sets later. Also I had to take some food to make the stomach nausea go away. I have no problems now though.
I have no knowledge of bromelain so I can't help you there.
quote:
Originally posted by sick of BCC
JimB and Steven, sorry for the scatter brained post. I am taking quercetin, vit c, and the green tea extract in the same amount as you twice a day. I had an upset stomach and could not sleep using the vitacost products origionally mentioned in your post. When I modified the approach as described above those issues went away. I guess my real question should have been adding the bromelain and removing the caffeine change in a material way the ability of this combination to work. Just asking your opinion. The hope of finding something effective that will help facial lesions instead of jumping in with both feet on the old black salve would be quite valuable. Thanks
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| Steven |
Posted - 06/04/2013 : 06:58:26
Jim, maybe you should try the quercetin + vitamin c + H2O2 used topically as instructed a few posts before this one. I think it could work. |
| JimB |
Posted - 06/04/2013 : 06:21:07
I have no problems falling asleep and take one set of capsules just before bed.
Not related to the capsules, I only get approx 7 hours of sleep usually waking early.
Progress has really stopped now and I have one of the three BCCs remaining although smaller in height then when I started. Also I still have an SCC that will not go away.
For a couple of days I tried 3 sets of pills per day but did not feel that they had an effect so I went back to two sets of pills.
I need to get back to using an aggressive topical mixture but not really motivated yet.
quote:
Originally posted by sick of BCC
JimB and Steven, I have been following your post and have tried your approach, how ever the combination was causing me problems. I modified it slightly - vitacost quercetin and bromelain and decaffeinated green tea extract. I am only on day two but I would like your opinion. The green tea at 10 pm forced me to see the sun rise 3 days in a row. I went to sleep last night w/o a problem but I did eat before the quercetin. JimB's pictures were compelling and I would like to have some of that success. Thanks.
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| Steven |
Posted - 06/04/2013 : 05:28:31
quote:
The green tea at 10 pm forced me to see the sun rise 3 days in a row.
What do you mean by that. Do you mean you couldn't sleep for 3 days in a row?
How much Quercetin, vitamin C and EGCG did you take? If you took vitacost green tea extract you probably took 250 mg EGCG. Is that right, did you take 250 mg EGCG? Did you take them all together?
Do you take vitamin c as well, that is important, but you didn't mentioned it in your post.
It might be that the combination has some kind of effect on the brain so it causes difficulty to sleep. However, I never heard about this side effect before. Yes limiting the caffeine intake might help but I am not sure if it's the caffeine that caused it. Maybe you should take melatonin to help with sleeping. |
| Steven |
Posted - 05/31/2013 : 05:54:20
If anybody else has tried quercetin + vitamin c (+ H2O2) please post here. |
| JimB |
Posted - 05/22/2013 : 12:12:58
I do believe that the strength of the capsules is related to whether you have eaten or not. From my own experience I have seen better daily results when I took my second pill before bed.
So now I take one pair of pills at 10am and 1 pair at 10pm.
I really prefer to eat as soon as I get up. So to me this is a good alternative.
As far as progress goes, it is slower. The BCC that I referred to in the above pictures is about .5mm in height now. This is significantly smaller. I would say when the treatment started the BCC was 2.5mm in height. There were 2 others that completely disappeared under the treatment earlier.
So the last week i started using a topical treatment Sunspot ES as found on amzon.com
The creme that I refer to is discussed elsewhere in the forum. My idea was to see how it worked with the internal treatment. It has cleaned up some of the red areas on my face and misc spots. Also the BCC without the Sunspot ES use to swell or shrink at various times during the day or day to day. Now the BCC does not swell just stays small. I will try to take a picture sometime this weekend.
I am interested in the H2O2 comments above and will take it under advisement but for now I want to try this.
http://www.amazon.com/LANE-LABS-Sunspot-ES-14/dp/B001E8OB3Y/ref=sr_1_2?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1369242376&sr=1-2&keywords=sunspot+es
quote:
Originally posted by Steven
According to this article you get 3 times more EGCG if you take it on an empty stomach:
http://clincancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/11/12/4627.full
http://www.acneeinstein.com/hack-your-tea-2/
"There was >3.5-fold increase in the average maximum plasma concentration of free epigallocatechin gallate when Polyphenon E was taken in the fasting condition than when taken with food."
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| Steven |
Posted - 05/21/2013 : 04:07:21
According to this article you get 3 times more EGCG if you take it on an empty stomach:
http://clincancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/11/12/4627.full
http://www.acneeinstein.com/hack-your-tea-2/
"There was >3.5-fold increase in the average maximum plasma concentration of free epigallocatechin gallate when Polyphenon E was taken in the fasting condition than when taken with food." |
| Steven |
Posted - 05/20/2013 : 11:59:24
Strangely anivoc hasn't produced any good results (yet).
Jim said that there are still some tumors left.
I thought that the possible reason may be that EGCG isn't a very good pro-oxidant after all. It's not known if all the EGCG generates free radicals as it only generates free radicals (in the form of H2O2) under specific conditions. And it also isn't known exactly how much free radicals it generates.
So maybe you should use H2O2 instead of EGCG. H2O2 oxidizes quercetin + vitamin c immediately.
You can apply H2O2 topically, here are the instructions:
Rub your skin with quercetin + vitamin c. Add 1 mL of 3% H2O2, rub it well. Add a littlebit of water, rub it well. Add a littlebit of water again and rub (repeat adding water and rubbing if necessary). Afterwards wash it off with water.
Ofcourse you can also take it orally, the instructions for that are found on my website.
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| Steven |
Posted - 05/17/2013 : 12:32:41
Jim,
Can you give me your email address? I can't send you any emails because your profile does not have the personal contact button. If you don't want to place your email address here in public please go to my forum and send an email to me.
Anivoc,
I still can't contact you. Your email address does not seem to work. |
| JimB |
Posted - 05/09/2013 : 07:31:38
I am taking one Vitacost Quercitin 250 mg / Vitamin C 700 mg capsule and one Vitacost Green Tea Extract 500 mg capsule twice a day now. I take them at the same time.
quote:
Originally posted by Steven
Jim which brand of green tea extract are you taking? Are you taking the green tea extract together with the quercetin + vitamin c? I ask this because vitamin c can increase the absorption of EGCG.
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| Steven |
Posted - 05/09/2013 : 02:35:09
Jim which brand of green tea extract are you taking? Are you taking the green tea extract together with the quercetin + vitamin c? I ask this because vitamin c can increase the absorption of EGCG. |
| anivoc |
Posted - 05/08/2013 : 14:46:45
Thanks for the link Steve...The Teas actually start on page 98 and go through to page 103....Interesting point is that most teas have quercitin as one of the flavinols in them..
cool
JimB
I have not yet started the green tea just using the quercitin with no noticeable changes happening on my VERY LARGE BCC's... that said, I have quite a bit of green tea in my possession fresh from China so I think it is time to add it to the regimine.
I will post back in a week or so and update if I think there is a difference...fingers crossed.
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| Steven |
Posted - 05/08/2013 : 10:15:22
Here you can see the EGCG content of brewed green tea:
http://www.ars.usda.gov/SP2UserFiles/Place/12354500/Data/Flav/Flav_R03.pdf
Scroll down to page 97. |
| JimB |
Posted - 05/08/2013 : 08:24:43
FYI
There are about 150 mg of green tea flavonoids per tea bag, I believe that not all are EGCG.
The green tea extract is 500 mg per capsule 50% EGCG.
By the way things are still improving. BCC getting real small but not gone yet, almost. SCC is starting to heal up well. Redness on face clearing also.
quote:
Originally posted by Steven
Anivoc, are you going to try to add the green tea (extract)? I have read that self-brewed green tea has a good amount of EGCG in it. So called "ready to drink" green tea only has very low levels of EGCG. I really hope that with EGCG the mix will work.
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| Steven |
Posted - 05/08/2013 : 08:11:11
Anivoc, are you going to try to add the green tea (extract)? I have read that self-brewed green tea has a good amount of EGCG in it. So called "ready to drink" green tea only has very low levels of EGCG. I really hope that with EGCG the mix will work. |
| Steven |
Posted - 05/06/2013 : 06:04:14
I think EGCG is a pro-oxidant. This explains why combined with Quercetin + vitamin C it's so effective:
http://publik.tuwien.ac.at/files/PubDat_188967.pdf
http://collection1.libraries.psu.edu/cdm/singleitem/collection/posters/id/274/rec/6
Quercetin + vitamin C needs free radicals to kill cancer cells and maybe the EGCG provides these free radicals. |
| anivoc |
Posted - 05/05/2013 : 18:22:39
Steven
A google of the Quercitin Advocacy Group ( listed as the owner of your site) shows that group has been banned and post removed from other forums for trying to get "donations" You are treading that same path here and that needs to stop now.
Dan built this site 12 years ago and has supported this site solely out of his own pocket not asking for a penny from any of us ever. He makes no money off of this site though I am sure he has plenty of opportunity to have advertising.
He has done all of this out of the goodness of his heart and to give glory to God...all to help people in their battle against a very frustrating, disfiguring and sometimes deadly disease.
I have allowed you to post links to your site here because I believe it is relevant.
From here on please refrain from asking for financial support of your website or research on this site.
We are all here to beat skin cancer not to make a living at it.
Not trying to insult you or chase you away if you want to contribute viable relevant information to the quest here.
Thanks,
Tom |
| anivoc |
Posted - 05/05/2013 : 18:06:56
JImB..
I have not implemented the green tea to this but after reading this article I just might... Unfortunately I am not having the same good results you are having..pretty much no change for me...maybe the green tea is the trick....
Here's the link http://www.naturalnews.com/035651_green_tea_quercetin_cancer_tumors.html |
| Steven |
Posted - 05/05/2013 : 08:57:24
Ok I hope that the third BCC will disappear over time. I am also curious about if others will have the same results. If that is so that would be very exciting. And if not it's time to find out why.
I actually predicted that all cancers would disappear with this Quercetin + Vitamin C mix because it simply kills all the cancer cells and leaves all the healthy cells alive. Also, this mix is absolutely great because in theory it would penetrate everything (I call it super-bioavailable). Your results "prove" that I was right.
But when I said with your help I can inform more cancer patients I actually meant this: I spent alot of time and money on my website. And ofcourse I would do that after finding something that could be a "cancer cure". I am looking for people who can support me. I am just asking you to think about it. With support I can buy more advertisements to make my website more popular. On the long term, other cancer patients can see my website as well and try the treatment protocol using quercetin + vitamin c.
You can read all about it in the last section of my website:
http://treatcancerinfo.wix.com/cure
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| JimB |
Posted - 05/05/2013 : 08:20:23
Here is a 2 week picture to show the difference.
Yesterday after my post the remaining BCC collapsed again and I shaved more callous type skin off with no bleeding as the skin is significantly above the shrinking BCC.
It is still there. This is probably the 3rd time this one has collapsed. Once with topical treatment and 2 times with internal treatment. This one is stubborn but probably there for more years than I care to think about.
I have no problem with you quoting me and referencing this forum. I believe more progress is ahead but I cannot guarantee it. Not everything on my face is cancer so I do not how much will vanish under this method. My goal is to get rid of the BCCs and SCC on my face then I will sort out what remains.
And I am not responsible for other people's side effects if they on their own try this procedure as I am not recommending it to anyone only recording results for my own future use. It is very helpful to record your actions in a log, as you can refer back to them if you want to try it again.
quote:
Originally posted by Steven
Jim,
With your help I can inform more cancer patients about this cancer treatment protocol.
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| Steven |
Posted - 05/05/2013 : 03:55:00
Jim,
With your help I can inform more cancer patients about this cancer treatment protocol. |
| JimB |
Posted - 05/04/2013 : 08:45:36
Actually I am doing excellent.
I am taking one Vitacost Quercitin 250 mg / Vitamin C 700 mg capsule and one Vitacost Green Tea Extract 500 mg capsule twice a day now. I take them at the same time. It does have to be in your system all day or you feel as if progress is slipping back by the end of the day. If results continue as I expect and cancers are cured I will take the tablets once a day for life as I would expect that internally it would prevent growths of misc cancers. I do not have any symptoms with the mixture now as I first did. But on an empty stomach or low hydration I still feel a rush type effect when I first take them.
I have experienced improvement everyday taking the pills. The daily improvements are something only I can see or feel because it is minor but after awhile it all adds up.
As you can see from the picture in a previous post I had 3 Bcc's next to each other. Earlier this week all 3 swelled to the point of being annoying. But then at night all 3 collapsed leaving a partially empty callous type skin which can be shaved off. I've seen this before with topical treatments, it is the death throw of the BCC.
So all three went flat. Now one has raised its head again but I have no doubt it will be killed also. It is just tougher than the other 2.
My blotchy red skin is disappearing slowly. Also my SCC seems to be retreating slowly and healng.
I will take a picture tomorrow and add it here.
quote:
Originally posted by Steven
JimB, how are you now?
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| Steven |
Posted - 05/04/2013 : 07:22:32
JimB, how are you now? |
| Steven |
Posted - 05/01/2013 : 14:47:12
Has anyone else tried this treatment protocol?
Please post your results here! |
| Steven |
Posted - 04/26/2013 : 05:44:15
Anivoc, I tried to reach you after you sent me a message but I can't seem to reach you. Can you send me a message here?
http://www.qcancercure.com/ |
| JimB |
Posted - 04/25/2013 : 13:36:02
Yes I am seeing improvement BCCs still getting lower in height. Approaching flatness but not disappearing yet. Hope they will when totally flat.
Remember these things were here for years so they really do not want to go away.
Using 2 treatments per day now. Missed one of them yesterday but will continue them.
quote:
Originally posted by Steven
anivoc,
Can you inform me about the results more often? I have sent you my email address. I just have to know if this thing works.
JimB,
Do you still see more improvement?
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| Steven |
Posted - 04/24/2013 : 09:14:42
anivoc,
Can you inform me about the results more often? I have sent you my email address. I just have to know if this thing works.
JimB,
Do you still see more improvement? |
| JimB |
Posted - 04/23/2013 : 14:49:14
I am using both Green Tea Extract and the Q&C.
May I suggest you brew some Lipton Green Tea with about 3 tea bags.
I also am going to go to 2 times per day.
Good luck.
Here is a link discussing the 2 supplements together
http://www.naturalnews.com/035651_green_tea_quercetin_cancer_tumors.html
quote:
Originally posted by anivoc
On my Third day...no nausea taking one Vitacost quercitin 700 mg / Vitamin C 250 mg twice a day. Once in the morning , once at night always with a little food in my stomach before taking.
Unfortunately not seeing any noticeable results as of yet.
I have a very large nodular BCC and two smaller problem BCC's..a lot of AK damage.
Things may be happening but I am going to just continue on for at least 30 days and see if things see actual improvement / shrinkage. Based on Jims reports I bit the bullet and ordered two bottles..a total of 360 capsules so I could use this for another 6 months at 2 capsules a day if I think it merits supplementing with this.
I don't want to clutter up this thread with a bunch of daily updates so I will hold off reporting back on this for at least a few more weeks unless something very significant happens prior to that.
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| anivoc |
Posted - 04/23/2013 : 14:37:49
On my Third day...no nausea taking one Vitacost quercitin 700 mg / Vitamin C 250 mg twice a day. Once in the morning , once at night always with a little food in my stomach before taking.
Unfortunately not seeing any noticeable results as of yet.
I have a very large nodular BCC and two smaller problem BCC's..a lot of AK damage.
Things may be happening but I am going to just continue on for at least 30 days and see if things see actual improvement / shrinkage. Based on Jims reports I bit the bullet and ordered two bottles..a total of 360 capsules so I could use this for another 6 months at 2 capsules a day if I think it merits supplementing with this.
I don't want to clutter up this thread with a bunch of daily updates so I will hold off reporting back on this for at least a few more weeks unless something very significant happens prior to that.
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| Steven |
Posted - 04/23/2013 : 06:02:14
Message to all people reading this:
If you have tried Quercetin + Vitamin C against cancer please post your results here. It doesn't matter if it's good or bad results. Please state the dosage you have used and for how long you have used it.
Jim, I have been promoting this cancer treatment protocol for a long time but even thought I do get about 10 visitors a day usually there is no-one who reports back results. Do you have any idea why?
I hope that will change and people will start posting their results with quercetin + vitamin c here. |
| JimB |
Posted - 04/23/2013 : 04:53:59
How are you doing? Any news?
quote:
Originally posted by anivoc
Thanks Jim..
I am going to go ahead and start with 2 a day...1 in the morning at breakfast and 1 at nigh at dinner time and see what happens.
I have a ton of AK damage and 3 nasty BCC's... one is huge at this point but sloooooowly and painfully being eaten away by vit c / MMS... I am hoping this is the golden ticket but I will hold back on my high hopes until I see what happens over the next few weeks...fingers seriously crossed and prayers for resolution of this affliction.
I will continue the astaxanthin and D3 along with
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| Steven |
Posted - 04/22/2013 : 02:14:46
It's not normal to have nausea while using this treatment protocol. I would advise waiting a few days before taking another dosage if you do develop nausea.
I am thrilled having seen the fast results and hope that others will get good results as well.
By the way MMS is a pro-oxidant I read so it could make the quercetin + vitamin c many many times stronger. So I would be careful with that. |
| JimB |
Posted - 04/21/2013 : 18:47:20
I feel more use to it now but if you feel nauseous eat and drink to hydrate your kidney/sytem etc.
I believe I am now more use to it. Now but it takes a couple of days according to what I experienced.
quote:
Originally posted by anivoc
Thanks Jim..
I am going to go ahead and start with 2 a day...1 in the morning at breakfast and 1 at nigh at dinner time and see what happens.
I have a ton of AK damage and 3 nasty BCC's... one is huge at this point but sloooooowly and painfully being eaten away by vit c / MMS... I am hoping this is the golden ticket but I will hold back on my high hopes until I see what happens over the next few weeks...fingers seriously crossed and prayers for resolution of this affliction.
I will continue the astaxanthin and D3 along with
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| anivoc |
Posted - 04/21/2013 : 17:24:38
Thanks Jim..
I am going to go ahead and start with 2 a day...1 in the morning at breakfast and 1 at nigh at dinner time and see what happens.
I have a ton of AK damage and 3 nasty BCC's... one is huge at this point but sloooooowly and painfully being eaten away by vit c / MMS... I am hoping this is the golden ticket but I will hold back on my high hopes until I see what happens over the next few weeks...fingers seriously crossed and prayers for resolution of this affliction.
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| JimB |
Posted - 04/21/2013 : 16:29:08
Just one.
But I think down the road I may take 1 in morning 1 at night.
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Originally posted by anivoc
HI Jim,
How many of the 700/200 vitacost quercitin /vit C capsules are you taking a day?
Got mine gulped down my first capsule this afternoon...we'll see.
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| anivoc |
Posted - 04/21/2013 : 16:18:04
HI Jim,
How many of the 700/200 vitacost quercitin /vit C capsules are you taking a day?
Got mine gulped down my first capsule this afternoon...we'll see. |
| JimB |
Posted - 04/21/2013 : 16:04:25
Here is a current picture with one from early February. I wanted to show the problem I was facing. A large red area existed on my face.
I still have bcc problems but everything is lower in height and smaller in diameter with better color in my face.
Total time for the Q&C has not been that long about a week so I am interested in continue the treatment and see how things progress.
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| JimB |
Posted - 04/19/2013 : 08:30:22
I thought I read it at his website, but I can not find the reference quickly. I thought he mentioned that the Q&C will work better with EGCG which is found in Green Tea Extract and other natural sources.
I had them around because of using them externally with viagra and they work externally but slower than the above method. I did not take the green tea extract internally before by itself so I do not know.
Maybe future posters can try it by itself. I have a couple of hundred around its easy to take them.
Here is Steven's website
http://www.acancer.info/
Here is another link discussing the 2 supplements together
http://www.naturalnews.com/035651_green_tea_quercetin_cancer_tumors.html
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Originally posted by anivoc
Hi Jim,
The green tea extract? In a quick review I didn't see Steven suggest that. Is this something you decided to add to the regime or something Steven suggested?
I have ordered the quercitin / Vit C and will jump on the guinea pig team as soon as it arrives.
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| Steven |
Posted - 04/19/2013 : 08:16:39
I did suggest it at first but after reading on studies I thought it isn't what I need because it's not a good pro-oxidant. I think it's the Quercetin + Vitamin C that works. But I can always put it back if testimonials tell me that it's needed after all.
Jim, I read that nausea could be a symptom of TLS. I don't know but I thought if Quercetin + Vitamin C kills tumors (and we don't know how potent) it might also induce that problem.
The problem is I never get any feedback (messages) on my website so I don't know how big the possible TLS problem is. If I got feedback more I can see if it's really a problem or not. The good thing thought is that nobody ever tells me that the protocol doesn't work so I think it may work. But I never receive any messages strangely. |
| anivoc |
Posted - 04/19/2013 : 07:58:26
Hi Jim,
The green tea extract? In a quick review I didn't see Steven suggest that. Is this something you decided to add to the regime or something Steven suggested?
I have ordered the quercitin / Vit C and will jump on the guinea pig team as soon as it arrives. |
| JimB |
Posted - 04/19/2013 : 07:17:28
Amazingly improvement of my skin occurs daily. Looking pretty good today. Will take photos Sat or Sun. I want a stark contrast with earlier photos.
Height changes hard to quantify .5 mm maybe but definitely can feel the changes with my finger. I don't think the changes are linear but larger changes occur first then additional changes are smaller.
Slight nausea occurred yesterday too. For about an hour but eating and drinking will end it. Could be all the vitamins I take. I had 2 breakfasts yesterday.
The Quercetin and Vitamin C and Green Tea Extract are definitely working. I take other vitamins but I have taken them before, but the Q&C/GTE addition does the work.
Thank you Steven for coming up with the idea.
I also take 10,000 units of vitamin D3, 400 units Vitamin E, 200mg COQ10. I try to take my blood pressure medicine earlier and take my vitamins later in the morning.
I mentioned earlier that I am working on a stubborn SCC externally. I have stopped working on it to see if the internal method works on the SCC by itself. The SCC is basically flat now but there is still little lumps of fiber at the edges of the SCC so I know it is not gone. I plan to go back externally if the internal method does not take it out. I feel that the Q&C/GTE is working on it but cannot quantify results. At least it seems to be containing it.
One other thing. I had 2 raised bleeding bccs on the back of my head. Each was about 2-3 mm. I had frozen them off with liquid butane wart remover. They came back and would bleed each day and scab up.
I am going to the doctor Monday for a basic yearly check up and was going to have the doctor freeze them because I can't see them and wanted to stop them asap. They are now gone. So I don't have to have him do it.
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Originally posted by Steven
Can you tell me how fast the raised BCC's are shrinking? Just an estimation in millimeters a day. How big were the BCC's (and how many did you had) before you started Quercetin + Vitamin C?
If you encounter side effects such as the light nausea you had maybe it's better to wait a few days before taking another capsule?
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| Steven |
Posted - 04/18/2013 : 08:33:11
Can you tell me how fast the raised BCC's are shrinking? Just an estimation in millimeters a day. How big were the BCC's (and how many did you had) before you started Quercetin + Vitamin C?
If you encounter side effects such as the light nausea you had maybe it's better to wait a few days before taking another capsule? |
| JimB |
Posted - 04/17/2013 : 16:45:48
Things are still progressing well. Raised BCCs getting lower in height, some keratosis disappearing on my forehead. Skin actually feels oily without moisturizer applied.
Had some stomach problems this morning possible because of night life last night. Did not have large breakfast and much liquid. So had light headedness and nausea, after taking capsules this morning. Unusual symptoms for me. Sausage tortilla and bottle of water cured that.
Still taking Q&C and Green Tea Extract capsules.
uote]Originally posted by Steven
It's good to hear about such improvements in such a small time span. I wonder if others share the same experience.
Please keep us updated on a daily basis (or even multiple times a day).
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| Steven |
Posted - 04/17/2013 : 02:15:16
It's good to hear about such improvements in such a small time span. I wonder if others share the same experience.
Please keep us updated on a daily basis (or even multiple times a day). |
| JimB |
Posted - 04/16/2013 : 05:19:05
The pills were only taken for 2 days, so only I would notice improvement. Anyone else would see that I still have sun damaged skin.
But what I noticed was everything got smaller and not itching. Usually when treated the damaged skin does not itch.
I did layoff for 2 days and some minor itching returned in one area with the patch increasing in size, but overall not much happened.
I did start again yesterday. Drank lots of water and monitored my body to make sure nothing unusual occurs. The cold sore did not return but evidence of the old one remains. I will take the pills again this morning. Tomorrow I will decide whether to skip a day or not. As long as I see improvement without problems,I will continue, maybe even take pills in morning and again at night if improvement slows down with no complications.
This morning I look better than yesterday. An interesting thing happened Sunday. I was joking and laughing around with an old friend and she said "Look his face is pink", not red as usual, but pink. Now she never said that before and I did not mention any treatment. I believe she recognized something different about me but did not know how to say it. An unusual comment for her.
This weekend I intend to take some pictures for comparison. We should be able to clearly see some differences.
I have 2 spots on my face that I am still working on with coconut oil, green tea extract and viagra. One is a diagnosed SCC and the other may be. So I am interested how internal and external treatment may help the SCC. The rest of my problems are BCCs and misc patchy sun damage (who knows what). I have stopped the coconut oil all over my face as of last week. This morning I will be using a brief coconut oil and sugar facial scrub in the shower to remove some dead skin.
Interesting note is that I do not see that much dead skin laying about but there is some on my forehead that I would like to try and get rid of.
anivoc: Yes there are basal cells and they are shrinking in diameter and height.
Interesting thing is I have a large wart under my chin that I have been fighting with vitamin D3 and more recently olive oil and thought I was making progress.
The wart has shrunken significantly since taking the pills and is almost flat. Maybe coincidence or time for the wart to go. But I did have 2 smaller warts on my left elbow that I was going to get around to. They were here last week and one is gone now and the other is almost gone. Who knows. They were there for a long time.
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Originally posted by Steven
Do you still see any improvements? I'm very curious because I think this could be a cancer cure and if it really works I would be very happy.
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| Steven |
Posted - 04/16/2013 : 04:06:26
Do you still see any improvements? I'm very curious because I think this could be a cancer cure and if it really works I would be very happy. |
| anivoc |
Posted - 04/14/2013 : 17:23:39
Wikipedia on TLS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tumor_lysis_syndrome
It is more prone or apt to occur with Lymphomas and Leukemia no mention of skin cancer..
Please keep us posted Jim...Do you have any larger Basal Cell tumors? |
| JimB |
Posted - 04/14/2013 : 13:42:44
I have posted a jpg of TLS symptoms.
I experienced none of these mentioned below. Only had a bloated lower lip that is still some what bloated.
Planning my next move. I did experience improvement in skin color and texture in 2 treatments but obviously not 100% in that short a time.
Thinking of using Q&C every other day or 2 times a week then rest to limit risk.
Will let you know what I decide but do not want to quit using it with no symptoms yet. I may be "dead" wrong but do not feel my size problem and potency of Q&C is strong enough to cause TLS.
So I will think this through.
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Originally posted by Steven
WOW this is incredible! It's great to hear you see difference. I always knew it would work! Maybe you should contact Dan, I believe he's the forum owner. If he likes the results he can put the results on his website.
It's really astonishing to hear this.
Oh yes I should warn you if it really works maybe there can be side effects as well so maybe you should visit a doctor to monitor you. For example I know that tumor lysis syndrome could be a consequence of rapid tumor breakdown and if it's potent stuff it might also induce that complication potently. You only live once so it's better to be on the safe side.
I have been busy so long to try to find out if this thing really works and hearing your story really makes it worthwhile.
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| Steven |
Posted - 04/14/2013 : 04:30:29
WOW this is incredible! It's great to hear you see difference. I always knew it would work! Maybe you should contact Dan, I believe he's the forum owner. If he likes the results he can put the results on his website.
It's really astonishing to hear this.
Oh yes I should warn you if it really works maybe there can be side effects as well so maybe you should visit a doctor to monitor you. For example I know that tumor lysis syndrome could be a consequence of rapid tumor breakdown and if it's potent stuff it might also induce that complication potently. You only live once so it's better to be on the safe side.
I have been busy so long to try to find out if this thing really works and hearing your story really makes it worthwhile. |
| JimB |
Posted - 04/14/2013 : 04:18:46
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Originally posted by JimB
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Originally posted by JimB
Absolutely have seen results, WoW.
I have been intending to document my results with Quercetin + Vitamin C sooner but got tied up with Sprint, a new phone and food shopping all day yesterday. Actually missed my dosage yesterday.
Started taking Vitacost.com brand Q&C 700/250mg plus Vitacost.com Green Tea Extract 500mg on the morning of 4/11. Missed my daily regimen of coconut oil mixtures.
So I woke up on the morning of 4/12 and noticed that overall my face looked less red and most all the sun damaged skin had shrunk in height somewhat. Did not really believe my eyes but thought it may be because of no oil that day.
I did have a side effect which I verified with a google search that Quercetin may give one a cold sore if they are alergic to citrus. Now I have taken lots of vitamin C in my life with no problems and am not prone to cold sores but I had a large area on my lower lip that had puffed up like a cold sore.
Started putting ice and Abreve on it throughout the day. It never got crust so it was not a real cold sore but an alergic reaction. I continued with another dose on the morning of 4/12.
By the end of the day on 4/12 I noticed subtle improvements in my facial color again. Of course 4/13 was screwed up as I mentioned earlier but since I missed a treatment the cold sore went away.
I don't want to count my chickens before they hatch but I am looking forward to taking today's dosage and documenting this with pictures.
In about a week, I will add recent pictures showing the red patches of sun damaged skin and current status.
I do want to personally thank you for suggesting taking the capsules orally instead of topically as I am seeing fast results. So fast that I did not want to report them until I believed them myself.
I am very impressed with this treatment. Thanks, again.
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Originally posted by Steven
Did you notice any effect from the Quercetin + Vitamin C? Can you tell me which brand of Quercetin + Vitamin C you are using?
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| Steven |
Posted - 04/14/2013 : 02:52:45
Did you notice any effect from the Quercetin + Vitamin C? Can you tell me which brand of Quercetin + Vitamin C you are using? |
| JimB |
Posted - 04/10/2013 : 15:50:45
Ok, I'll start tomorrow. I also have the green tea extract 500mg. I'll add that too. I did use it externally with the Q&C and coconut oil earlier.
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Originally posted by Steven
You can also take the Quercetin + Vitamin C orally. Please inform me if you do and see any difference.
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| Steven |
Posted - 04/10/2013 : 15:43:29
You can also take the Quercetin + Vitamin C orally. Please inform me if you do and see any difference. |
| JimB |
Posted - 04/08/2013 : 13:39:22
Actually, I did but not a fair trial.
I received the Vitamin C and Quercetin 700/250mg pills from vitacost.com and applied with Coconut oil for about a week.
There was no visible effects but the color was a true yellow mustard color mixture and I did not like wearing it on my body and it was messy to mix in sink area, so I stopped using it. Sorry.
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Originally posted by Steven
Ok JimB did you try Quercetin + Vitamin C?
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| Steven |
Posted - 04/08/2013 : 13:25:33
Ok JimB did you try Quercetin + Vitamin C? |
| JimB |
Posted - 01/14/2013 : 07:01:21
I referenced your post here and am copying you out of respect.
http://www.topicalinfo.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1416
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Originally posted by Steven
Ok keep me informed.
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| Steven |
Posted - 09/22/2011 : 12:39:16
Ok keep me informed. |
| BasalBoy |
Posted - 08/27/2011 : 16:14:53
You said you would use 3000 or more Quercetin and 1500-3000 mg ascorbic acid (provided that it isn't too acid).Look me up (BASALBOY) and you'll see I've used most of what's out there with mixed results and am not afraid to put something as natural as these on my face. If it gets too caustic and aggressive, you can usually wash it off, dial it down and try again. |
| Steven |
Posted - 07/25/2011 : 05:15:28
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Originally posted by Steven
Has anyone tried Quercetin + Ascorbic acid (vitamin C) dissolved in water (shaken well) against cancer? What were the results?
Please, I need to know the results of using quercetin + ascorbic acid dissolved in water. |
| Steven |
Posted - 07/12/2011 : 07:38:57
Has anyone tried Quercetin + Ascorbic acid (vitamin C) dissolved in water (shaken well) against cancer? What were the results? |
| Steven |
Posted - 01/02/2011 : 14:15:15
I used it to wash my head. I also take it daily orally. |
| marsha |
Posted - 10/02/2010 : 10:12:39
I cant believe in all this time you haven't found a friend or family member to try this out. Have you put this on your face yet, with pictures? |
