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Artsup Posted - 05/08/2012 : 11:28:44
Hi All,

Today marks two weeks treating my SCC on my nose with ascorbic acid and purified water.

I went through the stage of it forming a head like a pimple then turning black (literally) then scabbing over. Today exactly two weeks with one day of rest, the scab fell off and there is what appears to be fresh new skin underneath. I applied more Vit C paste about an hour ago and it started burning just slightly, not as bad as before. This time the area is not turning black as it did prior.

My question is how do we know when the cancer is gone? When can we confidently stop the treatment? Is it true that the area will not burn when you place the Vit. C paste if there is no cancer? I thought I remember reading that somewhere. If it burns is it still present? I almost wish I had another wound I could apply the paste to, to see if it burns. I think it would irratate any open site being a form of acid.

Thanks in advance for anyone with personal experience or research docs that they can share.

Best to all!

Artsup
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AllenoChris Posted - 09/20/2012 : 06:01:28
Consequently, what exactly are the many benefits of vitamin C? Initially, the vitamin tends to make the epidermis fresh as well as crystal clear. Additionally, it activly works to safeguard the patient's gums and teeth, tissues, and even organs for example lung area. What's more, it boosts and also boosts the human disease fighting capability, and also its detox activities. Vitamin C delivers preventative health and fitness outcomes for any individual to protect against severe medical conditions, including cancer malignancy, breathing illnesses along with other health issues.

You'll find a large number of organic fruit which can be proven to become outstanding Vitamin C sources. Several of the biggest suppliers of the vitamin are usually citrus fruit. The type of source having great quantity of the Kivi fruit. A consistent intake of kiwi fruit is usually recommended; this is due to kiwi may help out with the reduction of cancers progress. Even so, you might not simply get Vitamin C through citruses along with sweet-sour fruit. Another critical supplier of this vitamin is certainly organic green as well as leafy home grown vegetables, just like green spinach. The fact is, kale is known as surely one of the most important providers of vitamin C.


http://www.thevitaminmag.com/benefits-of-vitamin-c/
dan Posted - 06/11/2012 : 07:51:01
Hi kathy, there are numerous potential topical treatments to consider including petty spurge, black salve (bloodroot + zinc chloride), iodine, pancreatin enzymes + ammonia (Cymilium), d-limonene (orange oil), vitamin C, baking soda, and curaderm (eggplant). If you are leaning towards vitamin C, check out http://www.cancertutor.com/Cancer02/VitaminC.html where they discuss the importance of using sodium ascorbate rather than ascorbic acid for topical treatments. Good luck!
kathy Posted - 06/10/2012 : 09:04:22
hey...i've recently been diagnosed with BCC on the center of my nose...i am very fair-skinned w/red hair & freckles & over the years , being a lover of the outdoors, once i started getting older, i have had several bouts with mostly AK's & afew BCC's. now, i was scheduled for a consultation w/ a derm surgeon & was told that "the next step was the MOH's surgery....i know about this already since i have an aunt & an uncle who went through it. She basically indicated this was the ONLY way to go....well, for the time being they have me scheduled for surgery in July But i have been researching treatments & have decided to not be a victim of the medical establishment & think "outside the box" & i want to start using a homeopathic, holistic alternative.....what would be the best way to go?
Artsup Posted - 06/06/2012 : 19:44:53
Hello Who ever reads this!

Well Ive been treating a spot on my chest for about ten days now. Where as the spot on my nose got inflamed and came to a head and then turned black this spot is just exceptionally inflamed and very uncomfortable when I apply the vitamin C. Previously with the spot on my nose the burning would stop after 10 to 15 minutes. Now this spot burns for hours. Has anyone else had this happen? The area around the wound is very red and I'm just a tad concerned.

Thanks!
waverider Posted - 05/16/2012 : 11:30:03
Good for you for doing the orange oil test. Speaking only for myself, if I got no sting feedback from orange oil + good healing + no other visible eruptions at that spot, I'd be inclined to declare success at least for the time being and just keep an eye on it. As others have noted elsewhere, orange oil seems to sting on abnormal cells ... not only established BCC or SCC but also pre-cancer upstarts like actinic keratoses that may eventually turn into cancer, given enough time. So you may have something just getting started at the other spot near the eye. But the earlier they are, the better vitamin C works against them in my experience.

Cymillium may be a worthy product itself, but its owner has a commercial motive by claiming vitamin C doesn't work. The evidence for topical ascorbic acid against skin cancer is fairly long-standing, a lot of it coming from doctors who've used it personally themselves.
Artsup Posted - 05/16/2012 : 05:27:34
Thanks for your input Bonder! Yesterday I purchased some orange oil. I applied it liberally to the spot onmy nose and there was no stinging. However the new spot under my eye did sting, and it reacted with inflmation. As I look closly under magnification there is no scaling on my nose, its just the new tissue formimg. So maybe it was successful.[:)

Ironically I got a return call from the owner at Cymilium. I told him of my vit. C regimin and he was so adament that it didnt work! I decribed the what happened with the black discharge and the length of time it took and he said no way. Thats when I ended the conversation.

So now i guess its time to treat the new spot. Hey again thank you Dan for this encouraging forum! if you read this. I would'nt have a clue or more importantly the faith to proceed otherwise.

Enjoy your days everyone!

Artsup
bonder Posted - 05/15/2012 : 06:52:04
Howdy Artsup,

I also thought about not continuing vitamin C until I heard the Gary Gordon video (which is why I put it onto canceramerican).
It seems like many other folks have had other cancer cells rise to the surface during treatments and they could not knock out all of it for a month or 2 of consistent applications. I sort of like these guys here...
http://www.cancertutor.com/Cancer02/VitC_BSoda.html . For most of what I've read, (no pain, no gain) until it is all over with.

Be Well Always,

Bonder
Artsup Posted - 05/15/2012 : 06:19:28
Well it looks like the Vitamin C did not work. After the 2nd scab fell off 2 days post I've begun to see scaling around the perimeter and it itches. To top it off during this process another spot under my eye appeared with similar physical characteristics, but it doesn't itch. I now will order the Cymilium and pray that that works. Back to a bandaide nose again it looks like UGH!
Artsup Posted - 05/09/2012 : 06:21:41
Thanks waverider! I will follow your suggestions. Yesterday I never had any more discharge as before. This morning the area has a new formed scab so I will just apply colloidial silver to speed up the healing process along with vitamin E to reduce the scaring,as well as try the orange oil.

waverider Posted - 05/08/2012 : 22:52:55
Hi Artsup:
Just speaking from my own experience here, which is with BCC not SCC.

You’ve got it a little bit wrong re vitamin C burning as an indicator of cancer. What the posts refer to is orange oil -- not vitamin C. You can search “orange oil” with the search tool and get a wealth of info in the posts. The jist is this: Applying orange oil to a suspected spot will usually produce a stinging sensation within 10 minutes or so if abnormal cells like cancer or pre-cancer conditions are present. (Maybe someone posted re orange oil on SCC, too, but I haven't looked back at them.) This has not been verified by scientific test, as far as I know, but many people here including myself have come to rely on it as a reliable indicator. I have experimented and in my experience orange oil applied to any non-cancer skin disruptions, like cuts etc, does NOT sting. So, if you get a sting response from orange oil, it's at least suggestive that something abnormal at the cellular level is going on. You can get little bottles of orange oil at health stores or at Whole Foods for about $4.00.

Vitamin C, on the other hand, will sting anywhere there’s a break in the skin—from BCC to a paper cut—or even just a raw area. So, continued stinging with Vitamin C just means there’s still some unhealed area. If you don’t get a sting response with C anymore, that just means that the skin has healed over enough that the ascorbic acid doesn’t hit any nerve endings. It’s not a good indicator of either the presence of absence of BCC.

Generally speaking, at some point you just have to stop treatment, let the smoke clear and the dust settle and see what you've got when it heals up.

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