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BasalBoy |
Posted - 11/03/2011 : 18:42:07 Dan has done a great job creating this forum. Like him, I lost my sibling to cancer at age 43 using conventional methods. I'm a 70 year-old white male battling skin cancer half his life. I've tried many of the remedies listed on this site with no success which doesn't mean they're not effective, just not for me. I tried eggplant and other non-painful things before moving towards the more caustic like Curaderm and petty spurge.(photos posted under Basalboy)
The black salve, Cansema did work for me on small basal cells for years. It was taken off the market, during which time a serious area developed near my nose creating fairly thick scabs that never happened before. Cansema is available again but did not seem to penetrate the scabs. While the less invasive remedies had no effect, it may be the inability to penetrate the scabs.I hope those of you trying these things will take before and after photos and follow good scientific practice of not using two remedies at the same time.
Of course our friends say we're crazy, but those of us who have been through the somewhat barbaric experiences in dermatology are open to trying other means. Surgery is an unknown, and a doctor cannot tell me what the results will be. This may be why they call their business a practice, but I don't want to end up without a nose. I plan to remove small pieces of the scab and apply the salve taking before and after pictures that will be posted weekly. After using Cansema for many years, I have sometimes had to reapply it for success, but have never been disfigured by it, even when some of the cells were pretty deep under my skin.
This is a great site and has the power to find an inexpensive cure for our skin problems. Be sure to take before and after pictures and if possible get the site biopsied to know what you have. More importantly, when using any of the caustic remedies only apply a tiny bit and if too painful or the wound grows too large, wipe off immediately. We want to find a remedy that's safe and predictable.
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BasalBoy |
Posted - 12/10/2011 : 12:18:19 Well, I'll never be Brad Pitt, but at least the Cansema seems to be doing its job. It's hard to see in the picture but there's a little crater running across the center of my nose where some big scabs used to be. I can't say yet whether the Cansema got all the basal cells, but either would a surgeon who probably would have cut a deeper swath on my nose. After the holidays (and party season) I will apply some more salve and see if there is still activity there. You can see the little crater at the bottom left of my nose were a scab fell off. This should fill in with normal skin in a week or so, but I will also reapply to see if there is any activity they are also. As the upper scabs fall off I will keep attacking that area with the salve in the hopefully eventually have skin that looks like skin again.
This is not exact science, but hopefully more of you will take before and after pictures of whatever you're using so we can at least get a broader respective of what really works.
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BasalBoy |
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Posted - 12/01/2011 : 19:23:03 In a perfect world there would be no cancer. Most imagine going to the doctor, painlessly having our chemotherapy and living happily ever after. Of course that's not how it is, and our alternative techniques may not be working any better, so it is important to track our results. Even your phone can do it now, so be sure to take before and after photos. The photo below shows my face looking better, with less visible basal cell damage, yet there may still be some active cells underneath. While some of the scabs are gone from the lower portion of my nose, the Cansema found a lot of activity towards the top of it, and I suspect there still may be some active cells there. You can see the reddened spot and a slight crater where the scab fell off. They get a bit itchy when healing and to be honest, if I were handcuffed it would not have fallen off so soon. Having done this so many times, you get to know how it works, and after a party I'm going to this weekend, I will reapply the salve and see what happens. |
celtchic |
Posted - 11/14/2011 : 01:06:25 The nose is really tricky to cover with a bandaid...I've tried those assorted packs with all different shapes and sizes and also the thick brown strips where you cut it to whatever shape you need. None of these worked very well...
Now I'm using gauze which I fold into the right size and thickness and keep it on with cloth tape...a big long strip of it, so it won't come off.
Like you, I had also been also covering my BCC with makeup when I went to work but never felt very good about doing it as I thought it might work counter to the hash oil I applied at night. Now that I'm on leave I won't be using anything but the oil and the gauze ... the doctor I'm consulting with says that the absorption is better if the lesion is covered (I think this would be true for areas with scabs as well)...but this is just my own opinion.
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BasalBoy |
Posted - 11/11/2011 : 20:29:43 Bandages falling off? An alternative To going out with ugly spots or bandages is something most women use daily - makeup. I went to the drugstore and got some cheap cover girl makeup that when applied to the scabs I get using Cansema seems to hide them fairly well. It's probably better to use to spot bandages in areas where they will stay on, but areas around the nose don't seem to be bandage friendly and they fall off. The question I had at first was will this interfere with the healing by penetrating the scab. Most people don't seem to get the thick scabs I now have, which is good because treatment can penetrate easier into the skin. Over the years I used Cansema, it forms a scab that is pretty black and gets fairly thick. In areas where a bandage wouldn't work, I applied the make up until the day the scab fell off leaving good skin. Normally this period is about 10 days to two weeks. I'm about a week into application on the thick scabs existing before applying the Cansema, so I'm really wondering if the results will be the same as when I applied it to the many places without scabs that worked well for me. Time will tell, but here's a picture with a bit of makeup applied, Which isn't pretty, but a little better than without it in the last picture.
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BasalBoy |
Posted - 11/05/2011 : 01:54:50 I've tried other versions of the salve that didn't work as well and played with mixing in other things that seem to work, but believe the Alpha Omega Labs original formula to be most effective. There is a long story on their altcancer.com site showing why the founder was put in prison because the salve worked too well. Let's face it, billions of dollars are at stake if someone can remedy their own skin problems with a $30 jar of goop that lasts for years. If the makers were greedy they could charge more money for Cansema, but they seem very nice on the phone and seemed to just want to help people. Even though they had to move to Ecuador, I'm still glad they are making the salve and don't plan to make my own. |
BlondeAmbition3 |
Posted - 11/05/2011 : 00:43:32 quote: Originally posted by BasalBoy
Dan has done a great job creating this forum. Like him, I lost my sibling to cancer at age 43 using conventional methods. I'm a 70 year-old white male battling skin cancer half his life. I've tried many of the remedies listed on this site with no success which doesn't mean they're not effective, just not for me. I tried eggplant and other non-painful things before moving towards the more caustic like Curaderm and petty spurge.(photos posted under Basalboy)
The black salve, Cansema did work for me on small basal cells for years. It was taken off the market, during which time a serious area developed near my nose creating fairly thick scabs that never happened before. Cansema is available again but did not seem to penetrate the scabs. While the less invasive remedies had no effect, it may be the inability to penetrate the scabs.I hope those of you trying these things will take before and after photos and follow good scientific practice of not using two remedies at the same time.
Of course our friends say we're crazy, but those of us who have been through the somewhat barbaric experiences in dermatology are open to trying other means. Surgery is an unknown, and a doctor cannot tell me what the results will be. This may be why they call their business a practice, but I don't want to end up without a nose. I plan to remove small pieces of the scab and apply the salve taking before and after pictures that will be posted weekly. After using Cansema for many years, I have sometimes had to reapply it for success, but have never been disfigured by it, even when some of the cells were pretty deep under my skin.
This is a great site and has the power to find an inexpensive cure for our skin problems. Be sure to take before and after pictures and if possible get the site biopsied to know what you have. More importantly, when using any of the caustic remedies only apply a tiny bit and if too painful or the wound grows too large, wipe off immediately. We want to find a remedy that's safe and predictable.
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BasalBoy |
Posted - 11/04/2011 : 18:56:43 Day one of Cansema treatment begins with applying about 3 cubic millimeters or about a BB size of the salve to the spot at the top of my nose between my eyes. It's always best to start with a tiny bit and not a spot on your face, but having used it for years I know what my immune system will do. I've found that applying too much salve or any treatment at once seems to put a load on my immune system, but the good news is I've never had any sign of infection. I haven't had a cold or flu in 25 years, but sometimes using the salve I can sense that tingly feeling in your nose as a cold is trying to work its way in. I picked off a tiny portion of the scab below my eye and to the left of my nose in the photo and applied about the same amount of salve to that spot. It's best to apply a bandage over the area and not applied one of those little round ones over the one in my cheek, but knowing it would fall off the upper area because it's not a flat area, left it open.
I found that on good skin nothing happens, but in both the spots within a minute or so I could feel a tingling telling me there was unhealthy tissue being dealt with. Even with that tiny amount applied it can be somewhat uncomfortable after a few hours. Even after a day, the spot is no longer painful but if I touch it, quite sensitive, like touching a black and blue bruise. You can see in the photograph how the area beneath my eye is a bit swollen, and after a while you forget you did the treatment until friends look at your face and say, "oh I see you've been to the dermatologist." the swelling usually goes down in a day or so and the scab forming over the application normally grows thicker until finally it falls off. Because it gets itchy the last few days I have to resist picking at the scab to "help" it fall off. When that happens I usually end up with a crater an eighth inch or so in depth of clean looking skin that eventually fills in. I will post more pictures when we get to this point.
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Posted - 11/04/2011 : 08:46:40 Great post BB
To date there is no single easy way knock out these lesions. When we say the word "skin cancer" it strikes fear in the hearts of our misinformed or unaware loved ones and friends. The first thing to do is figure out what type of lesion you are dealing with. The next thing is to educate yourself on the alternatives. While in the process you will questioned and criticized for not letting a professional doctor handle this. So you have a support system as you journey through the hockey sticks of treatment, be patient with and do your best to educate your friends and loved ones to the dilemma we face in a knife happy, money motivated medical system that has not come up with an easy inexpensive way to deal with these lesions. That for the non-melanoma ones many lay people have had equal success treating them on their own as opposed to using a "practicing" doctor. When you remove the fear (False Expectations Appearing Real) you can move forward with more confidence and join the ranks of us who have had success whacking out these lesions on our own.
Melanoma= YIKES! SCARY! LIFE THREATENING! Squamous Cell= yikes, lets gets this handled before it escalates. Basal cell= ugh! generally not life threatening, painful scaring and persistent and reoccurring. Actenic Keratosis = flaky - "pre" cancers easiest to knock out.
AS Basal Boy says
One treatment method at a time and TAKE PICTURES
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